How to Tank in Dungeons | BIG PULLS!
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- A brisk guide on tanking endgame dungeons and doing Big Pulls in FFXIV.
--Gameplay from FFXIV version 5.2~5.3
What's inside:
🛡 A Speedy Overview of a Tank's Goals/Responsibilities in a dungeon setting
✅ How you help the other roles
⭐️ Why you should do Big Pulls + How to do them!
Check out the follow-up after this one: • How to Tank in Dungeon...
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- Timeline -
0:00 Intro
0:15 Tank Objectives - What's my job in a dungeon?
0:41 How proper tanking helps the other roles
1:15 Why do Big Pulls?
1:57 A Sample Big Pull 🔸 [Diagram]
2:30 Ingame Big Pull - DRK in Anamnesis Anyder
3:19 Ingame Big Pull - GNB in The Grand Cosmos
4:09 Offense - AOEs!
4:31 Many General + Class-Specific Tips
This is by no means a comprehensive guide, but a very general overview of a tank's goal/mindset in a dungeon. Many of these concepts can be applied in earlier dungeons as well. Although the vid's focus is tanks, there's plenty of insight for players of other roles to know what to expect from a tank.
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"Its FUN!"
The healer who wasn't ready: "Im awake now."
the DPS in the back: "WAIT WHAT?!"
The last example of Mt. Gulg .... I wouldn't advice to wall-to-wall in Mt. Gulg if the healer is not as solid as steel... xD I got in mind the first and the last pull that are insanly heavy.
I did it once as a WHM with my wife as a PLD without a wipe! But i wouldn't recommend to do it if the healer didn't ask for it. xD
@@nounours2627 *Laughs in WAR Heals*
the black mage who put their leylines in the usual spot but tank keeps on going
This is exactly why I ask the healer if im allowed to do some big pulls most of the time its a yes because we're all just wanting to get it over with
Finally a guide that focus on mitigation and not just on grabbing mobs.
Pro tip if you're rolling with a good WHM: They're probs gonna go right into Holy spam as soon as, or very soon after you stop moving. Don't waste those big defensive CDs during the time Holy spam's stun lock is happening, it's basically a free Hallowed Ground every major pull. Wait till mobs are no longer being stunned then pop your CDs
not always...................... as i see my lil tank on the floor cuz of this. ; ;
@@azadalamiq why I said "a good WHM" not "a WHM"
True but if you see the tank pop a cooldown as you're about to holy, it's better to wait their CDs down and stun during no CD downtime
@@aschenteworks I guess on later pulls in the dungeon but you won't know on the first pull. Though there also habits involve,. like me as MCH popping that run speed move right after the other range dsp popped theirs.
@@Gamemaster-64 Yeah but I mean, it'd only take a few seconds to notice if the mobs are being stunned or not. Easy enough to pop a minor cooldown, wait and see, and if no stuns come then move on to more substantial ones. Still better than wasting a whole 30% CD
While I already know how to tank. I would like to say thank you for making these videos easy to understand, and not filled with excessive information. Your guides and diagrams in general are rather helpful, especially for someone like me who struggles with ADHD and has trouble retaining information (especially when it's presented as run on sentences and lengthy chatter).
Thank you!
The level of style in this video is crazy! More guides need to be like this, I love this.
thank you THANK YOU for this. every guide i’ve read only mentions “pop your cds during big pulls” but you went above and beyond by being explicit and even providing real examples
my biggest fault as tank was popping both major defensive cds (not at the same time btw) at the first big pull, leaving me with nothing by the second one. this guide made a huge difference in the way i play
Another useful tip is that using a self-healing move while rounding up the mobs like GNB's Aurora and WAR's Equilibrium is useful for generating a lot of hate to keep the mobs chasing you, healing generates aggro too.
It's especially good for mobs that aggro from really far away where you can't hit 'em to generate threat and get pulled from a single Regen tick.
an healer should never apply a regen on the tank during pull, if this happens then just provoke the missed mob (if more either go back a bit for your ranged move)
Once you're in position you shouldn't have to worry about emnity anymore since tank stance is stupidly strong (i let my DPS friends get close to over taking me, 1 attack of the last in the single target combo attacks and they drop from 90-95% in the emnity bar to around 10%)
@@DarkDyllon you're totally right. Self-healing during the pick up is just a consistent way to skip any of that song and dance. It really helps for very specific instances like the dogs in Ala Mhigo and the big final stretch in Anyder.
I do Aurora too, although sometimes I feel like it’s a waste cuz we need it when the mobs starts to attack
@@NoNa-zc7ul If you do it right after Lightning Shot, the 2-3 ticks from Aurora while you run will cover you for the handful of autos you catch while gathering 'em up so it's not too bad.
Dark Knight?
Thanks so much for putting out an actual clear and concise guide to the topic instead of just ranting about it for views or supposedly putting out a tutorial that doesn't actually show/explain anything. Excellent work.
10/10 wow I'm really impressed by the quality of this video and the jam.
WAR pro tip: using vengeance with inner release makes all your retaliation damage direct crit too :)
FR???
amazing
using it with nascent flash also heals you for the retaliation damage as well
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@@maximinum4411 Wait for real?? Well golly gee willikers I knew I loved this job.
The editing on this video is INSANE! Great job putting this together!!
This is well-edited to the point that it's inspiring. I'm taking a short break from FFXIV but I suddenly want to tank an Expert Roulette and try to get everything right from this video!
You play 14? Neat
ayo, it's Seasonal Depression, the DRG you were doing WOL ex with in one of the PUGs you joined last night. Your boss positioning for Sword of Light was impressive and my friend (the NIN) told me that you had a channel. Gained a sub for the quality vid-production and graphic design finesse. Keep it up, and hope to PuG with you again soon!
Ahhh yeah I remember you guys! That was one of the best WoL pf's I've been in. Thanks for the fun and the kind words.😄😄😄
It is I, your brother Chronic Depression @5:50
How was he specifically positioning WoL during Sword of Light? I'm a tank main always looking to improve and really enjoy that fight. I still run even though I hit the mount early on my 26th clear!
Love watching your guides even if i don't necessarily need them myself because they're so well presented and concise. Awesome stuff.
I'm a tank main and just wanted to see how much you covered, but I'd say you did a perfect job. Thanks, I'll share this with my friends any time they're looking for a tank guide in dungeons :)
Gorgeous guide! I'm a healer main and it's always nice to understand more about what the tanks are/should be doing. Not only improve my own gameplay but help newer tanks as well :3
Happy to hear that!
The quality of the content. How quick yet effective your videos are. There is such care, passion AND KNOWLEDGE in every single one of your videos. Your guides are very helpful. Absolutely thank you. Truly blessed.
Thank you for this! People often make it seem as though tanking is an untouchable, high-level, "don't bother until you've played the game for 5 years" job. It's not, and this guide proves it. It is, however, a learning experience, just like with any other job. The more you do it, the less scary it becomes. And the finer points come in time with a bit of willingness to learn and practice. Mistakes are gonna happen, so get comfy with the idea that you may not be perfect every single time. Just do the best you can, help out your dungeon mates, be open to critiques and and above all else RELAX!
Solid video for someone relatively new-ish to tanking. I kind of never know what to pull/CDs to use but I've been figuring out as i'm leveling three tanks. This has high production value, clear information, and it's easily digestible to go back to if I'm trying to remember. Seriously, you should one of the "big" names for FFXIV content!
I've been tanking for years but I was still hooked by this videos visuals and music.
The content is excellent too, serves as a great primer for those who are new to endgame tanking.
Truly phenomenally-edited and informative video, as always. Keep up the good work!
Much appreciated!
WOW this presentation is astounding! Also the visual examples are great!
Your videos are always a work of art. As someone who recently started learning their first Tank job, GNB, ty for the guide!
I find myself watching these videos multiple times just for the music and visuals. I really can't get over how impressive these are 👍
I just wanted to say that I'm not at endgame content yet (still 4.0) but even just the tactics/techniques talked about in this and the other video have been immensely helpful in learning tank!! It's really clear and concise in a way I haven't seen in other guides. Thanks a bunch!!
The best kind of video one can find on youtube. You are a king.
This is so well made! I sent the vid to my FC because we were talking about this very topic. Thank you for the help!
Thank you very much. Hope it helps!
My god, the editing and animated examples put this "tutorial" video in a class of it's own. Gained a subscriber, I'm definitley showing these to my sproutling friends who've decided to give the game another try(and are finally progressing past 50). Great work!
These guides are great! Covers all the bases and ultra stylish as well!
I've had a hard time wording this to my friends that doesn't tank that often but wishes to learn. I'm definitely sharing this with them!
Dude, i literally just found out about you today and jesus, the quality of the vids you’re putting out is nothing short of amazing! This has been a major help to me as an aspiring warrior, thank you! I’m gonna stay along for this ride, can’t wait for the future!
Thank you! Stick around. 😄
This is amazingly produced. Thank you for taking the time and caring about your craft. Subbed.
This is a superbly made guide. Thanks
Very interesting video! I love to do big pulls with DRK as Blackest Night is just madness. Only thing is that one always should keep watch on the healer to see if they can handle it or not ^^
So informative and well edited. Major props.
Fantastic guide! The layout is great too.
Bruh this is high quality content for FFXIV! the presentation is just to good. keep it up !!
really awesome guides and the video editing is beast!!
Top-notch presentation, congrats to the team on a job well done.
Awesome thank you, as deaf myself been looking for text/reading guides and found this vid very easy to understand thanks man 💪🤛
didnt know what i was getting myself into bfr i clicked in this video. but wow, damn. the quality of this production is just simply amazing and inspiring. XX
This video is incredibly well done, thank you so much!
I've played ffxiv for a long time and I never stop learning LOL
Love the way you do your vids!
Thank you so much, I'm forever subbed XD
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Thank you so much for these
the animation are super nice, great job joonbob!
Just...wow! I was always afraid to start a tank class bc of these big pulls but with your tips I think even I would be able to learn how to tank properly. Thank you so much for this super easy explained guide! I'll come back to it when I start tanking
Best guide I've ever seen , subbed o/
I gotta say your music choice is always spectacular. Makes the guides more fun to watch.
Saw this channel now,the production quality is definitely there
Thank you for this; it’s been so clarifying. I’m finding that as a WHM main I’ve been in several endgame dungeons where tanks try to pull wall to wall and it feels like I can’t keep up as they’re dying almost instantly. After watching this, I realize that these tanks didn’t know how to do this correctly! And I’m just getting into tanking as well, so this definitely will help me once I’m ready for endgame! Thank you!
The editing and music is on point! Just discovered you and will surely use the guides you made on raid content, once I get there lol. Good job hope to see you grow more!
Glad ya found me. Thank you very much.
Having started picking up and playing for 2 months now, with experience in other mmos and some friends with savage experience giving a poke in the right direction, all i can say is
Watching these videos gives so much more clarity and ease of explanation on why and how in so many regards. They're quick, to the point, with brief yet precise explanations, with examples given of just the key pieces of information instead of what others do of showing the entire drawn out fight for what you've boiled down to as 2/3 3 second segments.
Just found this channel today through Larryzaur; the aesthetic, music choice and information are all fantastic for helping players get to grips with both basic gameplay and advanced bosses.
Especially loving the music choice. Jazz always makes things better. Absolutely amazing work.
Thank you very much. Glad you found me!
Omg omg FINALLY A VIDEO THAT EXPLAINS BENEFITS FOR OTHER ROLES!!!!! I main healer and whenever tanks don't do big pulls, use defensive cds or their aoe combo I end up spending way more unnecessary mp and time healing instead of contributing for dps. If the tank is ESPECIALLY horrible I end up using all my heal cds just to keep them alive :(
I really appreciate that you make these videos with text as well for people like me who can't keep watching 20 minute voice-over guides. These is consistently straight to the point, not hanging on certain topics with unecessary details and the visuals are entertaining, clean and easy on the eyes. Keep making these guides please!!
Fantastic guide as usual, looking forward to Seat of Sacrifice EX.
Amazing editing as always. I also wanted to commend you for presenting relatable and constructive benefits for pulling big rather than just focusing on speed.
Personally I already do wall-to-wall because I agree that it's very fun, but a lot of people don't necessarily care about speed or efficiency in their daily wizard chores. As a result, they get their hackles up when "getting it done sooner" is the only reason to do something they perceive to be difficult, particularly when they're doing something that is otherwise pretty chill. You've explained why it's not only better but ends up being more comfortable and easier in a lot of ways which I think does a better job of convincing people of why it's so great. This is something I personally feel a lot of the FFXIV community actually struggles with, and a big reason why you see so much pushback to feedback in general. So props again for that, I think a lot of people could learn from your teaching method to better convey gameplay techniques to new players.
I absolutely love the design work on these
I love the way you present the info and your content. the editing, color palettes, and music are great! Definitely subscribed now. 🙏
Outrun soundtrack ♥...fantastic video guides, best I've seen yet
This was extremely helpful, thank you.
It's a nice guide, but I think you neglected to mention the importance of Sprint and of always staying on the move. Pulls go noticeably faster if you hit each pack with an AoE just while running through it rather than standing there for the whole GCD and only then moving on.
Sprinting is definitely helpful yup.
SO MUTCH YES! More people should watch this and act accordingly. Good structure and visually pleasing to watch!
This is so helpful to someone who just got to endgame!
AMAZING! i already recommended this video to some friends :P
Thanks my dude!
These are really great! I hope you make one for all roles
Probs not useful with randoms, but if ur a DRK queueing with a WHM, Living Dead + Benediction handles the whole pull without any other CDs needed
Just started ff last month, I main tanks and just love everything about tanking and maaaan your vids helped me a lot! It was just a random click but wow I actually watched the whole vid! You make awesome content and deserves much more attention and praise. Your vids are neat and sleek, an ez subscribe for me!
Thank you very much.
omg i love your video! keep 'em coming!
Amazing video and I would show this to some less experienced tanks! Only thing I would suggest is explain why Arms Length is useful in pulls as tanks don't seem to realize the slow works on trash mobs so they immediately disregard it as a tank cooldown for trash pulls.
Thanks for this helpful video. I just hope that I'll be able to use this information to improve myself. I'm always nervous about how I'll do in the dungeons and don't want the others to judge me. I can't even remember the last time I've farted without it hurting me.
This video is exactly what the community needed.
More people should see your videos :) They are sooo good!
Thank you 🙏
I tend to usually pop Reprisal and Arm's Length together and it reduces the damage so much sometimes that it just becomes a burst phase for the healer where he can go ham on the damage. It also helps if I see that the healer might be struggling to heal up the damage too.
i love all of your videos, bless you
Awesome Video as always! I'd also like to add that you shouldn't underestimate things like Arm's Length or Reprisal on big pulls. While it doesn't quite give the same breathing room as a full-on CD would, its sometimes just enough to get through if there's any turbulence or something unexpected happens.
Big agree on Arm's and Reprisal.
Yeah. When paglth'an first came out, that last pull after the dergs fucking HURT. first time I had to whip out the ol' arms length in a long while
Hory sheet. Your guide just built my confidence in playing a Tank Role :D
Go get'em
this is a good video and i will be saving it for future use.
i use your videos to help teach new players in my FC thanks for the help!
Happy to hear that!
This guide is clean af
This is some slick editing
I just shared this with some new players, and I decided to rewatch. Was pleased to see god, lyrina, and myself in it. In the clip where you say Nascent flash allows healers to do other tuff, the WHM is casting cure II. that's hilarious.
thumbs up
This was a really cool video
Nice video, really pleasant to watch. Though do you only make videos of content that you cleared, cause it would be a banger to see an ultimate guide presented like this
This is a great video!
Fantastic quality.
THIS IS CLEAN!
Great video. That last Mt. Gulg pull is a tank's wet dream. o/
I loved doing that pull.
I don't even play ffxiv but this video was so well made I watched the whole thing
Thank you for this. I was planning on leveling DRK because i head the story of it was good but i don't have the confidence to do tank. I tried doing squadron but it feels so slow.
Just a note from a tank - Sometimes a single defensive is not enough to handle wall to wall pulls. Do not be afraid to double stack if you are taking too much damage, or if the healer is not keeping up with the damage you are taking. And most importantly, only pull what you are comfortable with. You will learn what you can handle with practice, and that takes time and repetition!
EDIT: And be aware of what type of damage you are taking. Some mitigation (DRK/GNB) is magic defensive mitigation, this will not work on physical based mobs!
i would say, step out of your comfort zone every once in a while, you won't improve if you keep doing what you already know.
On your mention on be aware what type of damage you are taking, i will have to mention that the only 2 ways to know if it's magic vs physical damage is to check either the combat log ("casting" is obviously magical and "readies" is physical) or via FFlogs which flat out tells you, but FFlogs for dungeons is not a thing.
The other way, which personally should be standard in the game but Yoshi P thinks that not adding this adds a layer of strategy (spoiler, it doesn't DRKs will just use their magical CDs in the hope that it mitigates, but it doesn't even tell you if it mitigates or not since the damage rolls are random within a certain range)
FF14 quick launcher lets you launch the game instantly without having to type out your password everytime (or the slow launcher in general)
but it also has plugins, including a damage indicator plugin which colors the damage types, blue for magic, red for physical and another for darkness damage (damage you can't mitigate unless it's shields)
No idea why the damage indicator plugin isn't already in the vanilla FF14, people always say "just see if it physically hits you, if yes then it's physical"
Ok, i'll give my example on why this example is bullshit, Kefka for example in the Sigmascape raid series, his Tank Buster is an attack that throws pots and pans ontop of you (so you would think physical since the pots and pans are not magical but physical objects hitting you) but it's magical damage (remember having to invuln it or let my drk OT take over since he could easily mitigate more than i could)
Another good example is Omega (O11) in the Alphascape raid series, he has a tankbuster called "mustard bomb" which is obviously a physical move right? nope, it's magical damage, i literally let the drk tank this as a WAR since he was better equiped in handling those tankbusters, with 2 CDs i would drop to around 10-15% HP, he would drop to around 35-40% HP.
@@DarkDyllon fflogs ids the bane to ff14 (as i have seen the community become cut throat after the site was made) :/ also reason why no dps meter in the gamer as is is due to divisive they are. should go to live letters where yoshida goes over it.
a good potion of the community is ps4 as well. but dmg vs magic is pretty obvious if you pay attention to the telegraphs.
@@azadalamiq FFlogs is only bad if it's utilized for toxicity. if people use it for personal improvement and don't bug other people about their parses (minus statics because that info is crucial in that setting) then I see no problems with it. But when people start jumping down other people's throats about someone playing poorly, then there's problems.
I didn't know Arm's Length can be used that way thanks for the video
Splash Wave was a surprise; it did my Outrun-loving heart some good to hear such a cool remix. :)
Good guide
I mained DPS for a long ass time so I only recently learned how to tank properly. I had one friend whip me into shape since he knew what he was doing lmao. Now I’ve got a max DRK and I’ve realized just how fun tanking is (especially wall pulling). Leveling a paladin now!!
here I was thinking that using low blow and other things were common knowledge since I use it when I tank... I don't even main tank, I main a healer. Good to know I am not as bad as I thought lol. Thanks!
Goddamn I love this channel.
PLD tip: blocks (and parries for all tanks) only occur in front. As much as possible, try to position mobs in front of tank.
Thanks to this vid, I changed my perspective on the usage of WAR's Nascent Flash --- I've been using it as an offtank skill, never thought of using it like Bloodbath like in the old days!
Blocking and parrying isn't affected by the direction you face -- You'll parry/block autos even while back-turned.
You got my subscription for this video, it's so well made. Can I ask you what program do you use for those animations?
The animations were done in After Effects.
@@rithli I had little doubts about it, but I wanted to be sure. Thank you! :)
Love it!