Beeswax Vs Paraffin: Flame Test
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- This should have been part of the last video but I didn't think of it at the time.
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No matter how much Cody tests there’s always going to be something else he can do
I think the wet cardboard affected the burning of the candles. Normaly parafin candles burn almost completly with a small layer on the inside of the candle container. Where the one in the test had quite a small area melted away and there is still alot closer to the walls.
+fireworkstarter
Its because it was cold.
If this is cody and not an imposter he'd eat both to prove their not toxic.
Yeah, I'm getting a few ideas of new tests myself. Such as light output, my guess is the paraffin burns brighter. Also, energy density. I'm sure the information on this is already out there, but it most likely was for this test as well as the previous ones too.
Jcpkill Silly person. They're not toxic. And not particularly tasty.
Your torch sounds like the screams that haunt my nightmares.
Tell me about them
rebilacx he invented a torch powered by the souls of hell
Next video: extracting gold from beeswax
Nah, next video: Extracting beeswax from gold!
banks hate him! Find out how he got rich with this one simple trick!
Naw.
Next video, breeding bees to mine gold for you.
Then extracting gold from beeswax.
Extracting uran from beeswax...
Extrancting heavy and precius metals from soil using polem and nectar collected from bees.
I'm curious about how a warmer environment would effect both candles burning. If the room were at a high enough temperature to allow both candles to melt from the flames produced, it would be interesting to see the differences with the availability of the wax no longer being a variable
I think the paraffin still would burn hotter possibly releasing more heat, weaker bonds to break and all that.
well that's interesting.
the thing is, i once bought a tiny candle powered steam engine, it came with a beeswax candle.
when the candle burned out, i tried replacing it with a cheap paraffin- or soy wax (idk. which of these), but it did barely work.
I was told that it came from the fact the beeswax burns hotter.
were they the ones selling beeswax candles perhaps?
But the paraffin candle burnt much more wax in a shorter amount of time.
It should have a higher power output than the beeswax regardless of the temperature.
Maybe Cody should test that with a stirling engine?
I suspect it burnt more wax because it had a higher availability of it. Since the parafin melts at a lower temperature, it more readily flowed to the wick which would allow for faster and hotter burning
But Cody! The distance between the candles might cause the gravitational field acting on those candles be different! That must've affected the result of the experiment!
Different?? Why
@@HYEOL the gravitational field across the planet is not consistent. You can find a map of it somewhere but I can't look for a link atm
Lol. That wasn't done by the scientific method! Results invalid!
Hearing YT’ers get salty is kinda sad. You can tell they’re kind enough to read all the comments and unfortunately that means they see all the shitty armchair expert and troll comments too.
Whoosh
"there's just so many things to test" truer words were never spoken
Nathaniel Jurcago Cody = GLaDOS?
Geez, it must be cold there. Tea candles melt and burn away completely here.
Another variable is that normal tea candles are the soy wax that he mentioned.
He also lives at a high altitude.
Soy wax has a very low melting point.
Yeah it is really cold in his house for some reason. 11 degrees indoors. Not sure if he wants to save money on the bills or whatever the cause is.
@@atwfnj It's not the altitude, I live relatively nearby and tealights burn fine here, and even burn fine up in the mountains. I imagine it's the kind of wax.
I think water cooled them down a lot. Normally paraffin would completely melt and burn in that setup.
Yes, also because they were down in the bottom of a pan, maybe interrupted the natural convection of the air movement? It’s the little factors that you don’t think about that turn your science experiment into a waste of time.
@@samueltaylor4989 they where both in the same environment so not really, we tested them relative to each other
the size and depth of the burn crater in the beeswax candle is a perfect example of why most beeswax candles are stick candles.
For either, you have to match the wick to the fuel. The wicks were far too small for his test.
For enclosed candles like these, an oversized wick is better than undersized. That way, all the wax will burn, not just create a crater and go out partly burned.
The way the candles are supposed to work is for the flame to heat the metal container so the wax melts and the whole fuel is burned, by using the wet cardboard you prevented this from occurring and that will have effect what happens
Yep this so much, I was about to comment that!!
Hopefully he doesn't get upset by comments like this, it's what science is all about, trial and error!
The wicks selected were just too small for the candle and blend of waxes used. You can see images of plenty of candles of this size in metal containers floating in water will full melt pools. Wax is extremely insulative. I don't think the heat loss due to surrounding water would be significant.
SamJac55 I agree.
The water was evaporating off the cardboard, the whole rig was acting like a swamp cooler. It wasn't just the water absorbing the heat there was refrigeration happening.
Scraping the wax off the table was really satisfying
The water extracts part of the thermal energy that was supposed to keep the wax liquid, did it not? :((
I doubt thats it... A small tealight like that with garden-variety low melting paraffin should burn nearly all the wax; even if you float them in a bath of water, as people often do. I think maybe the cakeform was significantly restricting the normal convective airflow; also both candles not being exactly the same distance from the wall could make quite a huge difference. But pedantry aside, it still demonstrated the known fact that beeswax makes for a slower burning candle than parrafin.
Nah, i've burned these little tea candles extensively and the water 100% played a part in wicking the thermal energy away from the metal base. The entirety of the wax is supposed to liquify for the candles to burn properly, and, as you could see, they didnt do that.
Regardless, i still think the bees wax candle would have burned for longer, but it would have been neat to see them work "properly"
Even if you just put them outside when its cold they do this
@Some Weirdo as Cody has already stated in multiple comments it's because the room that the candles were in was very cold. That small amount of wet cardboard wouldn't have changed anything.
If the room is already cool, the wet cardboards cooling effect on the candle wax would be more substantial.
yay thanks , i wasnt upset just curious!, edit , the water stops the can from getting hot and why you had wax left, you have to redo it!
Jusb1066 was about to say the same
Both candles were under the same condition, so it is still a valid test
But what was the caloric output?
I didn't think anyone last video was "upset." Oh, Cody. :P
^ Indeed, the candle's can is supposed to carry the heat to rest of the wax keeping the wick fed.
Internet Safety Brigade appreciates ya, lol. 5:24
what if it was ethanol and not water? ;)
But it kinda ruined the test by not heating up the metal container and using all the fuel available, that way it could've gone for much longer.
The Internet Safety Brigade should go play in the street. A really busy street.
3:00 CZcams bullying Cody into self-harm again, inb4 video's taken down
@@joni7fi not really he's not going the be using them with a metal container of this type
Candlemakers use different types of fuses/wicks for different types of fuel to get a more optimal burn time. Very fun to see these comparisons.
That *was* interesting. It would appear that beeswax candles are what you want if you need a longer lasting light source for when the power goes out.
I don't want huffing paraffin also, a crude oil was it.
terrible as scented candle I bet
UCO supplies paraffin candles with their candle lanterns. They are said to burn for about 9 hours. They also sell beeswax candles that are said to burn for about 12 hours.
"Let me put these in here so I dont risk starting a fire"
Me: theyre... they're candles??
If you run it again, put the soy candle in as well. And use a fireproof base with less thermal transfer. A brick or something.
And how about checking the light output of each, or the heat output (equal amount of water, see what temp each stabilizes at above ambient?)
Eby how about he does something better with his time
most relevant is lux per gram of wax. we assume the candlemaker will make sure the wick is optimize.
Cody's is pretty much the only channel on which I hit like before watching the video, safe in the knowledge that I will be thoroughly entertained.
Next step: Building a calorimeter to measure the enthalpy of combustion of paraffin and beeswax.
That number probably exists somewhere in a book
I think that a thinker wick in the beeswax candle should allow it to produce a hotter flame, melt more wax, and burn wax faster...
I agree
I wonder what size/composition wicks would give:
1) Similar light output
2) Similar burn times
3) Similar energy output (enthalpy)
thicker.
Hey Cody, just wondering over here how resistant the parafin wax is to alpha decay of uranium isotopes against the beeswax.
You're not really wondering that.
Alpha particles are so massive that they don't easily penetrate matter. Therefore, it is going to be very resistant. What you should be concerned with is the spontaneous fissions occurring, and the fissions from transuranic neutrons. which release more neutrons which will irradiate your paraffin wax. In turn, causing your wax to release high level of gamma radiation.
English plz
@@trevordustin2613 Radiation is bad for you
ArteroPk C0nner,cool!
So interesting. How do you do it Cody? How do you repeatedly come up with interesting questions to posit and test? Watching your channel is just a joy 🙌🙌🙌
Hows the chainmail coming along?
How about I live stream next time I'm working on it?
@@theCodyReeder yeah!
Cody'sLab yea do that!
2nd channel?
@@theCodyReeder Sounds good!
1:54 parafin is a mixture of longer hydro carbons and is not enginered to contain 1 (certain) molecule ;)
I guess what was ment is, that parafin contains only one group of different functional groups (hydro carbons), where beeswax contains a whole lot of different components, containing different functional groups.
AFAIK, beewax is very similar to parafin, just that it has a CO-O somewhere in the middle.
I don't know which has the broader size distribution, however refining allows to narrow it down for parafin quite considerably.
@@edi9892 Most candle blends incorporate a broad distribution as this helps with melting as well as aesthetic crystal structure defects, think grainy chocolate.
@@SamJac55 Plus the paraffin waxes are usually nucleated to further reduce the crystal size. I worked with very pure paraffins for a time: crystals would get HUGE when they cooled down slowly.
Beeswax will last much longer as your little experiment discovered. The other advantage of beeswax is that it will NOT coat the walls and ceiling of your room. Paraffin will do that. This is why some people will only use beeswax candles. I only use beeswax candles because I've got a lot of it.
One caution about beeswax. It is highly flammable when it's melted. Never work with beeswax indoors and always use a double boiler when melting the stuff. It can be used in so many products.
One experiment you might want to try is the rusty nail. Leave a nail in melted beeswax for an hour or so. Afterward, take that nail and a non-treated nail and leave them outside to the elements. The beeswax nail shouldn't ever rust. It has so many uses it's amazing.
Never knew that! Thanks!
Just inlisted in the army and aced the science portion I give a huge thanks to you and your channel. Thank you
Not sure what I learnt, other than I'll watch a couple of candles burning for nearly seven minutes if Cody is telling me stuff.
wax is used to seal stuff. Is paraffin wax or beeswax a superior sealer? wax is used for waterproofing stuff too..
Beeswax is super inert. It is used to protect glass from somesrts of acids, name of which escapes me
Normally, sealing wax isn't pure wax. Traditionally, it's a mixture of beeswax and shellac with some pigment thrown in.
But if you're me, you make fake sealing wax by mixing hot glue with paraffin and pigmenting with copper stearate. :P
Shrinking during cooling could be an obvious problem in sealing applications, which would put a tick in the "Pro" column for beeswax.
i would just simply check out otterwax it's premixed for waterproofing, if you want to max your own you can probably make do with bees wax and some oil, like linseed or whatever you want.
lampman it's kinda ironic that you're acting so dim, based on your name and all.
seriously though, no need to be so toxic.
It's cool we can see that you set the timelapse camera to 20 second increments, because the second hand adopts 3 different positions on the face of the clock. 60/3=20
It was actually 40 seconds.
It could have been any multiple of 20 seconds provided it wasn't also a multiple of 60.
Aww yeah, JamesG is correct. That's a cool phenomenon.
For those tickled by the 20sec vs. 40sec question, the deeper explanation lies in the mathematical topic of Group Theory. In this case, the positions of the clock hand corresponds to the group called Z_3, only taking the three positions of 0/20/40, as a subgroup of a group called U(1) or S^1, describing all possible clock-hand positions. 20 seconds corresponds to a 120-degree clockwise rotation, while 40 seconds corresponds to the opposite, namely a 120-degree counterclockwise rotation (or, equivalently, 240-deg clockwise).
Clearly this is the case of sampling error. Since the signal (clock hand movement) was a frequency (1Hz) higher than twice the sampling rate (1/40Hz), the reconstructed image (playback video) differs from the original image, and is aliased. Given these frequency, if the clock hand moved at any frequency that is a multiple of the sampling rate, even 600Hz, ie, 10 steps per second, it would appear indistinguishable (ie, aliased) from a clock moving at half the sampling rate (1/20Hz, or 1 tick per 20s). This is known as "aliasing"
On playback, the reconstructed signal appears to have a frequency of 1/2 the sampling rate (ie, 1/20Hz), due to folding (experienced as the wagon-wheel effect, where a spoked wheel appears to rotate slowly or even backwards in movies).
For more signal processing theory relating to sampling theory, wikipedia/Aliasing is a good starting point.
beeswax + dryer lint + 1 egg carton slot = awesome fire starter
I’m watching this video again after 3 years… man does time fly. Feels like yesterday.
Wow. Now I understand where the old saying, mind your own beeswax, comes from! (Because extracting honey from the beeswax then into candles is pretty much both time intensive and consuming while juggling current daily chores, e.g. churning the butter )
I think it's more likely just a slang play on 'mind your own business'.
I know there's a slight convective current but would it make much difference testing on a large flat surface compared to a "bowl" that could hold in co2 and not have sufficient o2
I'm pretty sure the co2 is hot enough to rise out of the bowl, allowing fresh air to rush in easily. You can hold your hand several inches over w candle and still burn yourself.
This would be true only if it was much more constricted.
I just loved watching the capillary action of the water in the cardboard.
Yes, more updates, Cody! Even this little wax tests are better than nothing. Thank you!
It seems you would want to add a little of the oil wax to the bees wax for a better flame on candles. Now you have to test the soy based one.
too much heatsink... metal and wet paper....
Wax is extremely insulating. The metal and wet paper are inconsequential in comparison. It's a fun/easy experiment you can run at home.
Moral of the story. Make your emergency candles out of beeswax.
Not needing an experiment but I can now see why they might mix the two candles together. The mix might ensure a fuller burn (due to lower melting point), but with increased longevity. I got surprisingly into that comparison so thanks.
Turn them into a hybrid rocket engine :)
Oof probably to much soot
You need a larger wick for beeswax for.the.same size paraffin candle.
nickwoo2 I was thinking along the same line. It's been a couple decades since I made and sold candles. Every new wax, candle container, or candle size I made required trial and error in wick selection. Burning down the core of the wax is a sure sign of needing to change the wicking.
@@GOAP68 which wax you suggest paragon or beeswax with cryon?
Should have added the shop bought one too,just as another reference, 3 for the price of 1,
New to your channel,love it,
Stay safe
Thank you, Cody, for being the scientist I’m too lazy and ignorant to be. CZcams and the world itself is a better place with you in it :)
Good info to know. Thanks
Are you able to purify bees wax so it is white again?
Im working on it
You need albino bees for that. ;-)
Yes, it's possible.
How would you do that? melt it and put it through a hot mesh sieve?(so it doesn't solidify on the sieve)
I imagine "cracking" i.e. differential distillation. Pulling off the fractions that have slightly different boiling points. Or perhaps solvents that dissolve the 'impurities'.
I love you so much, Cody. You are the light in my life. Never stop being the best guy! 🍄
Nice mix of the theme song and the wax music for this intro!!
Ughhhhh Cody! You should did paraffin, candle burn, soy burn and bees wax burn! Even if ya didn’t do the soy in the first video 😔
i think you made a mistake by putting them over wet cardboard, usually when those tea candles burn they liquifi the entire wax, and then the level lowers until there is no moe wax at all, but it looks like they didnt , and te outside stayed solid, probably because of the cooling action of the water
The candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long. Proven here, on Cody'sLab!
love your videos fellow utahn here. keep up the great work. the beeswax did not burn as fast, it had a longer longevity than the paraffin, but at the same time, the paraffin burned brighter and had a larger flame it seemed like. if you are up to it, you should try and do a thermal heat test with a laser thermometer or some other tool and see if the flames have a temperature difference. i am thinking the paraffin burns hotter and faster but does not last as long, but the beeswax burns less intense but lasts a lot longer. each could be suitable in their own ways for different applications. either way great work cody.
Hey Cody! Will we be seeing new episodes of Cody's Mine anytime soon or in the future, you said there was another mine nearby, also check my notes and suggestions on the subreddit, I hope you'll find something of use there :D
I doubt anytime soon. I you were to look at the Cody's Mine playlist you would find that all those videos are now Private. This is because he's been getting community guideline strikes on those videos. So for him to continue making those kinds of videos would risk his channel getting deleted and I'm pretty sure not you nor I would want that to happen.
@@Zerkalt Why were those against community guidelines?
polarizer filter stops the glare
Always love your videos, Cody, thanks!
My poor wasted brain space. I shall miss my brain space that has been forever filled with wax facts that will do nothing for me.
Redo! A mix candle, the original soy candle, whatever "commercial" candle wax, vs these two...
Oh wow 45th ......
Element is rhodium also what is up with the logo in the corner???
Lol, have a like!
The logo in the corner seems to be a psychedelic bee, I like it!
I think that included with the thermal absorption of the wet cardboard, the fact that it was done in a dish meant that some co2 collected at the bottom even with the convection current from the flame, hindering the size of the flame and therefore not allowing all the wax to melt
The face when you're burning tin cased candles. In a metal box. And you have to wet the cardboard for people to not be upset.
(Not going to yell first)
If there is no wet cardboard, it will burn almost all of the wax. But, because the wet cardboard was cooling down the wax around the flame, it couldnt melt :( so sad. Sorry for my english
Your English is better than the written English of most native speakers I encounter. What's your native language, if you don't mind me asking?
I think the flame was too small for the waxes used. Most candle waxes are blends which include lower melt point waxes which help this process.
Cody: Gets overly worried about both candles having the exact same physical conditions for a good scientific comparison.
Also Cody: "Welp, time to stick my fingers in them"
Always a good visit cody. Thanks as always.
Notice me
dontlikemath -.- consider yourself noticed
I like the time lapse capillary action in the cardboard.
That intro was great.
Cody, i've seen that you use hydroponics tech, I found a soviet 1965 book about this tech and very interesting experiments with aeroponics showed that plants can withstand a toxic amounts of nutrients by air than by water with weird results like "salty cabbage" right from the garden. I scanned this book with OCR, it can be easily translated - the last video on my channel. Basically saved book from destruction, many libraries are getting rid of old books today, esp. in Russia, very grim perspectives for libraries at all considering that publishing industry in crisis with no demand for paper books.
Watch a video of man burning candles for 5 minutes? Me: Nah
Watch a video of CODY burning candles for SCIENCE? Me: YEEEEEE
Thank you Cody for the work and the fun
Congrats on making it outrageous acts of science!
You mean it opens a whole new can-dle of worms? Haha... no?
Good job Cody two fuels used in the same engine and same conditions!
The candle that burns twice as bright and all that Jazz.
I enjoy chewing on beeswax, I am not surprised that the bees lasted longer. Cody thank you.
No matter what nothings impossable for cody he is genius
you an vsauce are the most interesting channels ive ever watched, keep up the good work
You better start collecting your earwax, Cody, because I'm betting Shrek fanatics will want you to run some tests on that.
Adding bees wax to paraffin helps candles burn longer. It works. Thanks for the video.
Awesome every video Cody makes is interesting!
The power went out during wind storm the other day and I went through about five or six tealight candles within a four hour span. I'm gonna have to get some beeswax ones! Thanks for the science!
Also, notice that normal tea-lights have wax that almost completely melts as they burn. If you've ever burned one, you'd know that it becomes completely transparent and the outside gets quite hot!
Hi Cody. If you are concerned with the number of variables, and hence, respective number of experiments to quantify things like mixing ratios I would suggest looking into doing a statistical design of experiments (DOE). Something made for just this sort of thing so you only have to run a small number of experiments with a random distribution of your variables but can generate an optimizable equation to study the effects of each of the variables on a metric such as flame height or whatever you are interested in.
This is so nerdy. I love it.
This is alot better than that other channel that boils volatile house hold products.
You're awesome, thanks for listening👌
i just love the yellow colour on the beeswax candle
I think doing a video like the first but with 25/75, 50/50 and 75/25 mixes would be really interesting. See if there is an optimal combination
I like your weird backhand wave.
“Let’s make sure we don’t start any fires... other the the one intended”
😂😂😂
I was actually wondering about this while watching the other video.
Well, I personally would be interested in the mixing tests. If for nothing else, to have more Cody videos ;)
But it would be interesting to see if a mixture would have different properties. Maybe there is a ratio that is better than the individual materials. Both in burning and energy storage.
this is why beeswax candles should always be in the form of tapers
This video proves that Cody is not an engineer but a scientist. Most engineers are pyromaniacs!
Good video. To be fair you should also make another test in jars, deep enough to allow the flame to to heat up the sides and melt them down as it goes down. 8 ounce jars should do. The flames will be different as well. They will take some time. Maybe a day or two.
When Cody pulls out you know it is f*cking hot
One really cool thing that happens with the candles is that if you pay close attention you can see that the parafin revolves around the wick in a spiral motion when lit.
Beeswax candles require a thicker wick to create a larger flame so it burns hotter. Also, the wet cardboard absorbed heat preventing the wax from reaching higher temps thus not melting the wax completely.
I really enjoy these comparison videos you should definitely do more of them but with different things
Echo the sentiment that the environment / physical setup was not warm enough to melt the wax - do it again in a warmer environment / set up that allows the total mass of wax to melt by the flame.