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The Battle of Hamburg (1945) - The Last Battle for Northwest Germany
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- The Battle of Hamburg (1945) is a forgotten World War II battle that is also refered to as the Capture of Hamburg or the Liberation of Hamburg. It was the last battle on the Western Front of the Second World War. It took place during the Allied Conquest of Northwest Germany. The British troops pushed for Hamburg, a city that had seen extensive damage during Operation Gomorrah in 1943. In April 1945 the Allies reached the city and the Germans were not willing to give it up without a fight...
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@@marcoskehl I'm not saying that the Americans didn't do there bit, but we where fighting the Germans for 2yrs before the Americans got involved, just saying. 😎🇬🇧
@@TheGrowler55 Ok. Thank you.
The British-Russian confrontation at Lubeck at war end is interesting - if you're looking for content ideas.....
I feel like the British involvement in the liberation of France and invasion of Germany is underrated and isn’t talked about often. Great video!
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You're not wrong... the Americans had more money to buy and operate cameras, especially coloured film, which of course focused on American troops, thus we have a surplus of the Yanks war and mostly silence from the Brits.
Unlike the American cameramen, the British did not put themselves in harm's way much . The American cameraman on Omaha beach was in the thick of it. The courage of the US cameramen cannot be denied. just look at the footage from the Pacific war. What were our lot doing.@@robert-trading-as-Bob69
@@dp-sr1fd " the British did not put themselves in harm's way much ."
The British after D-day along with the Canadians had to fight against seven armoured divisions and three heavy panzer battalions ( Tigers)
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- If you had read my comment properly you would have seen that I meant British CAMERAMEN not British soldiers.
Hi History Hustle,
as a historian from Hamburg I have to mention that there was no fighting in or over the city... as you mentioned, Hamburg surrendered to the British. The mayor Gauleiter Karl Kaufmann negotiated the peaceful surrender with the British on May 3, 1945 - and on the afternoon of the same day, british troops crossed the undestroyed bridge of the river Elbe and reached the city-center without any combat action. Kaufmann became some kind of a respected person after the war because of that, despite the fact that he was responsible for quite a lot of crimes related to his role in the nazi-regime. But the people of Hamburg were grateful for the surrender and this was mentioned and talked about in families a lot after the war. My father (who was eight years old at the time) talks about it until today. It was such a great relief because the city and it's people had suffered so heavily under the bombardment of "Operation Gomorrha" in July 1943.
So technically there was no battle of Hamburg (compared to Berlin or the Ruhr-district or Aachen for example). The british crossed the Elbe some days before at Lauenburg - east of Hamburg - and there was some skirmishing in the Sachsenwald. But that was it.
By the way: my name at CZcams - van Valckenburgh - originates from the dutch engineer and Fortress builder Johan van Valckenburgh. He planned and build the fortress complex of Hamburg during the 30 years war that made the city impregnable for the duration of the war. He then went back to the Netherlands and died 1625 in battle at Voorburg near Den Haag in the 80 years war...
I will check out your other videos - and I subscribed! Greetings from Hamburg, Frank
Thanks for sharing this.
Hamburg was a pro communist city well before ww2 that could explain lack of ideological zeal in defending from take over
The British threatened to call in Bomber Command if the Germans did not surrender Hamburg... they didn't intend to waste British lives , the Germans capitulated, knowing the game was already up. After Hamburg British and Canadian troops raced to stop the Red Army from trying to roll up the Jutland peninsula into Denmark.
I'm not sure what more bombing could have done to Hamburg. Many years ago I worked with a man who'd been just too young to serve during the war, but who arrived in Hamburg soon afterwards to take part in disposing of the huge amount of unused ordnance left over from the war.
His unit became lost in the maze of roads bulldozed through the ruins of the city, so their officer got up on top of a truck to look around and find a landmark that might give him some bearings. After a few moments, he told the troops to also get up and look around. As far as the eye could see there wasn't a single undamaged building.
Crossing the River Elbe to prevent the Stalinization of Denmark could be seen as the opening shots of the Cold War.
@@robert-trading-as-Bob69yes indeed. Further south the New Zealanders captured Trieste at the same time and stood off an attempt by Tito’s communist partisan army to capture the city. British and Commonwealth troops were a highly honed fighting force in 1945 and the threat of using Bomber Command would make any foe think twice.
@@Colonel_Blimp I mentioned Trieste in another post a short while back, and I think that affair predated the Kiel occupation, making THAT possibly the first Cold War standoff.
There was also the Greek Civil War that erupted before the end od the war in Europe.
Allied troops helped the Greek Royalists and Nationalists against the Greek Communists...
Then there was a kind of silent, or little known war in France between Communist resistance members, who were well organized, and everyone else, especially pro-de Gaulle resistance members.
I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened in Italy.
I think it was only British troops that raced to the Baltic and Denmark. The Canadians were busy liberating the last parts of the Netherlands
Thank you Stefan. People do not appreciate the loss rates in the last few weeks of the war on the Allied side too.
Thanks for watching.
@@HistoryHustle God oh God wat lag dat Duitsland in puin ,werkelijk geen 1 steen lag nog op een andere ! Totale ruine ! Maar dat was in 1944 /1945 ! Kijken we naar nu anno 2024 liggen er ook een paar landen helemaal in puin o.a Oekraine ,Syrie ,Irak en Jemen en waarschijnlijk nog een paar ! Erg veel heeft de mens in die 80 jaar niet geleerd ! Dat komt ervan als mensen blindelings en met oogkleppen op achter valse profeten aan gaat lopen !
Thank you. As one of the few Englishman who is still proud of our history I am grateful for you for making this video.
Probably tactically more important than the capture of Hamburg was the dash of the British towards Lübeck at the Baltic Sea in order to possibly prevent the Red Army to pour into the Schleswig-Holstein and Danish peninsula from the east by crossing the Elbe-Lübeck-Kanal, that roughly represents the south-eastern border of Schleswig-Holstein to Mecklenburg in the east.
Coming from the direction of Lüneburg , the British had crossed the river Elbe a bit downstream from Lauenburg at Artlenburg, about 35 to 40kms south-east of Hamburg.
Doing so, they had to get up the steep and high geest slope there and there was German shelling on the northern bank of the bridgehead from the woods around.
The spot is an ancient furt across the river and therefore there is an old ravine there(no other chance to get up the slope) at the northern bank leading into the village of Schnakenbek, a direct hit onto that ravine had killed many British soldiers.
Previously a 16 year old German soldier had sunk two amphibious tanks into the river with Panzerfausts, but got killed by machine gun fire from the western bank himself.
His sacrifice resulted into a holdup of the crossing for only 30 minutes.
Years ago I' had seen footage of that Elbe crossing taken from Artlenburg here on YT, I think, it was issued by the Royal War Museum.
The British themselves shelled the woods and villages north of the bridgehead , where German troops of all kinds were located, alone the village of Lütau and fields around were hit by a few hundred shells.
All in all this fight of the Elbe crossing and the following run on Lübeck had cost about another 1000 lives on all sides, including many German soldiers , that unsuccessfully counterattacked the bridgehead over open fields from the direction of Dalldorf and Büchen.
The command post of all the German troops in the vicinity was in a bunker right at the Witzeeze canal lock of the Elbe-Lübeck-Kanal, which is still there today , but not publically accessible.
I live in the vicinity and I own a book dealing on those final days of the war in this part of Germany, I'm writing from the memory of what I had read there years ago , the book is catching dust on my shelf presently.
Thanks for sharing your insights on this.
Details Ihat I wasn't aware of,Thanks.
It was actually at Wismar that the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion under Lt-Col Fraser Eadie, that confronted the Soviets on May 2nd, 1945.
3rd in! The last battles on the western front during the second world war are definitely quite interesting. Great work as always Stefan. Your presentations are top notch.
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I have read countless general history books about WW2. As well as many diaries of soldiers, from as many sides and theatres as possible in this war. I find the major movements and the "small", personal, histories in this war fascinating. Thanks again for this video, Stefan 👍
Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, TW.
Many thanks for your reply. Have a good weekend.
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Here, here! I'm an old man who's probably addicted to reading the history of WW2 (also as it happened in Asia) and, more recently. to accounts I find on CZcams etc. And I'd place Stefan's clear, no nonsense, no showmanship and unpretentious accounts top of my list anytime. Thanks from me too, Stefan. 👍
Great work, Stefan. I feel sorry for the people killed, but also for the cities themselves. They were beautiful and when the war ended, ugly modern structures were built and car parks set up where once medieval structures stood. Very sad!
I recall speaking to a friend of the family, he'd been to school with my father who was in the Royal Navy, and reported seeing him in Naples. He was in the DLI and told about how he'd fought from North Africa, including El Alamein, to Germany. The DLI Regiment as one of those units that saw a lot of action, in North Africa, NW Europe during the fall of France and DDay and the liberation and then all the way to the end. Also in Burma.
A friend of mine gave me a History of Monte Casino. Her father was there as part of the DLI.
Three of the units mentioned were in older, more famous battles.
The Inniskillings and Scots Greys, were The Heavy Brigade, in the Battle of the Alma in 1854, while the 8th Hussars, were one half of the famous "Charge of the Light Brigade," at Balaclava, in the same year.
Thanks for your reply.
Not forgetting the Scots Greys at Waterloo, of course.
Excellent delivery and graphics. Good to hear the place names correctly pronounced.
Thanks!
Thanks for another great video. It answers another question about my families history in WW2. In early May 1945 the British army rushed from Hamburg to Lubeck and in the process some of the units passed through my mothers little village SW of Lubeck. Everyone was told to stay inside, but my then 13 year old mother wanted to hide her uncle's nice leather boots, which she feared would be stolen by the allied troops. He had gotten these boots in France earlier in the war. She put the boots in an old sack and ran from the house to the barn to hide them. This is when she was shot through the leg right behind the knee. The bullet went right through the leg missing the bone. She was eventually treated by a British doctor and suffered no long term effects. It is not know if she was hit by a stray bullet or was targeted, but she was very lucky.
Thanks for sharing Peter.
Was she...tough as old boots?
No, she is still alive and a very gentle lady.@@jimdavis8391
My late father was part of all this and it had been forgotton until now. Thanks so much to see where my father had been.
Same here, my late father was in the 1st East Lancs in the 53rd division, he told me they took Hamburg without firing a shot.
My Mum was born in Luneburg, she became cook for a Major Montgomery who was stationed there after the war and even cooked a dinner for Field Marshal Montgomery when he visited the Major ! Small world.
Indeed. I visited Luneburg also. Nice town. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks again Stefan ! My father fought from Kleve onwards and said there were some tough fights and the weather was foul at times.
Thank you for diligently presenting the facts of this nearly forgotten battle. As usual I enjoyed your video lecture on the subject immensely. Continue producing brilliant content.
Thank you Stefan for sharing your knowledge with us ✌🏻🫶🏻
Have a great weekend. Thanks!
1:47 Hi, Stefan! I was born in a city called Novo Hamburgo (Neu Hamburg), in south Brazil. Most of the inmigrants, including my ancestors, came from Hunsrück region, near to Luxembourg. At the arriving in 1824, from Hamburg port, they presented themselves as hunsrückers, not germans. Germany would only be a state 47 years later. The town I live, Ivoti, has the most preserved german historic houses in Brazil. Culturaly, the border of south Brazil are closer to the pampas folklore than to the rest north above, like Carnival.
Obrigado e um abraço, tchê! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ノ 🍀 🇧🇷
I'm English...many of my ancestors came from the Hamburg area too. .......in about 500ad..😅
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Nice production ,
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Superb aerial photo at 1:25. Where did you get it from?
Steven, thanks for posting this, because most of us who have an interest in WWII don't know too much about this battle!
Many thanks Roger.
@@HistoryHustle you're welcome , brother!
Great to see you got the 48-state flags right. That's a rare touch these days! Attention to detail in small things implies attention to detail in big things.
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I always appreciate your history documentaries!
Many thanks. This one was still from autumn 2022.
Lovely presentation Stefan. I will keep on asking you for some videos on prisoner exchanges in ww2
The repatriation of Excess Protected Personnel and release of terminally ill and totally disabled prisoners is an interesting area.
I appreciate your positive words. I am traveling now till July this year. I won't have the means to release such an episode. Perhaps a short in the meanwhile. So please stop asking. It is not gonna bring it sooner.
I had not asked before and will try to not bother you. You do good work.
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Fascinating... I was a Brit squaddie in Fallingbostel in the early 80s so I find this particularly interesting.. thank you and Huzzah!! 😊
Thanks for replying.
Good post, you should do one on Operation Bluecoat 1944.
Thank you again. That was wonderfully interesting
Thanks Dutchman!
Interesting video! I’m always interested in what our British allies experienced in the war. My dad was in General Patton’s army and he said once they got across the Rhine they had a nasty battle at Frankfurt for a couple days. After that then basically all German resistance collapsed.
there were quite a few pockets of resistance as the Allies encountered last remnants of SS and units formed from officer candidates etc . some fanatical holdouts continued fighting until the end. the Army size formations are another story. after the Ruhr pocket was closed that was the end of armies in the west
Outstanding video, Stefan!
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At 5:47 it’s unlikely they were the Devonshires… given the name of their home town on the chalkboard board.. they appear to be a Welsh regiment or Welsh border regiment maybe ksli.
Interesting as ever. Particularly as my grandfather was there.thanks Stefan
Thanks for your reply. What did you grandfather tell you about his experiences.
Well his observations were more general as he served from before the way, through the war . This was seen very much as the end of the war. Though the war clearly affected him, particularly as he was with the troops who liberated Belsen. As with most veterans he didn't talk about it much apart from when I chose to join the army.
Interesting Stuff Stefan, I had never heard anything about this part of the overall European battle - thanks for your research as always!
Thanks for watching Nick!
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Hamburg invaded by the British during WW2 .video shared by an excellent (History Hustle) channel and introduced by 🙏 Sir Stefan
Many thanks!
As ever, excellent presentation sir. ❤
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Many thanks for your patronage! 😁
Very interesting. Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
thx much for another upload
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Didn't know this.Thx Stefan.
You're welcome David.
Nice story.
Got a city-trip to Hamburg planned in march. Wil see what is left as in memorials, museums etc.
Try to visit Neuengamme. An impressive place.
Visit gross luftshutz bunker feldstasse ?
@@Eric-kn4yn if that’s a recommendation. Visited the Flaktowers in Berlin so sure. Why not.
@@bert2530 The big Flak-Turm in Hamburg St. Pauli is one of two of a kind (the second one is in Hamburg-Wilhelmsburg). They are identical to those in Berlin. It is located right beneath the Millerntor-Stadion of the footballclub FC St. Pauli. But it is not a memorial. It was renovated and hosts businesses and a hotel today.
If you go to Hamburg and want to find something about WW2, there will be more places that cover the history of the heavy bombardment of "Operation Gomorrha" in July 1943. For example the ruin of the St. Nicolai church directly in the center of the city. Go to the "Hamburg Museum" at Gorch-Fock-Wall to find out about Hamburg in WW2. Or to the memorial of KZ Neuengamme in the city-district of the same name.
From the footage, it seems like the smallest guy in a British infantry section usually carried the Bren.🤔
Yet, the strongest I guess.
@@HistoryHustletall men make easier targets .
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Many thanks for your support Dan.
Good share !
Thanks for watching.
One thing the Brits did was stop the Russians going beyond Lubbeck and taking Denmark by getting there first.
Can’t believe you are in Hamburg this week aswell as Easter island 🗿😉
Hamburg nice and close compared to Easter island 🗿🫶🏻
Hahaha. This one was recorded in autumn of 2022.
9th Battalion Durham light Infantry was the local Infantry Battalion from my home town Gateshead. There nickname was the Gateshead Gurkhas
Thanks for sharing.
Another (smallish) link with the 50th Div is the gun shown at 5.57 - it's a 5.5" which equipped 101st Northumbrian Regiment Royal Artillery (Volunteers) batteries at Blyth, South Shields, Walker and Newcastle City centre until the early 1980's. A big uncompromising lump of metal that threw an 80lb shell a bloody long way. He or Smoke that's what your getting.
A beast of a gun.
Good video. Sub'd.
Welcome to the channel. Do check the other videos about forgotten WW2 battles. See playlist in pinned comment at the top 👍
The Canadian role in the world wars needs more videos.
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Interesting history.
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@@HistoryHustle interesting point you made more civilians killed in Hamburg Germany than Dresden bombing
"Instructor" your "quick wit" and " clear -eyed "focus" on the "subject matter"....keeps me in the know"!!
Many thanks.
i agree bro the ww2 is a huge war
not the small battles were featured good job bro
Many thanks Carl.
The British did more than it's share of fighting against the Germans and the Japanese, the Americans always get there stories told as though they Won the War themselves, just saying from Glasgow 😎👊🇬🇧
The US did most of the fighting, but that indeed doesn't mean the British did nothing. They also fought on many places.
"The US did most of the fighting"
The British did more fighting against the European Axis than the Americans up to the second half of 1944. More troops in the field, more planes in the skies and more ships at sea. The Americans only took the lead from July 1944. For the previous 5 years the British lead the fight in the west against Nazi Germany and Italy.
Good work. BZ
Did you visit the Bullenhauser Damm Memorial ro the victims of 20 April 1945?
Not yet.
Hi Stefan, great work. The photo of the Bren carrier when describing the battle of Ibbenbueren , was named 'Fforestfach'. This is a Welsh town, does this indicate the presence of a Welsh Battalion at the battle?
53rd (Welsh) Division were involved in clearing the approaches to Hamburg.
Just info adding : Fforestfach is a suburban district of the City Swansea, in Southern Wales
1st In, So @ 02:27 you claim the "Battle for Achen" was known as "America's Stalingrad", Care to share where you got this source of information from or moniker the from? or did you just make it up?
I stand corrected: I think it had another term.
Notwithstanding History Hustle's reply, it's normal and acceptable for war historians to give events monikers like this. But you call it "just make it up" LOL. Who do think dreams up these names? There's no Committee sitting around officially "just making up" these names, you know.
Even the better known ones - somewhere, sometime someone "just made up" the name like "The Battle of Waterloo" too, and it stuck. It's not official, LOL.
Once a similar battle to Aachen had a big, tragic impact on my family and many have since referred to it as "De slag op Bergen op Zoom" and over 80 years it's become common nomenclature. But you would say someone "just made it up". What's the alternative then?
You were good, Mark Felton called it America's mini Stalingrad@@HistoryHustle
It would be a really nice touch if you actually went to the trenches and the bunkers in the forests, like in Budapest, you could've gone to any of the several big defensive lines, ammunition bunkers, surveillance bunkers, anti-tank trenches, and more...
The dam was busted' in May 1943 by Lancaster's of the RAF's 617 squadron during Operation Chastise on the night of 16-17 May 1943, together with the Edersee dam in northern Hesse. The bombs used were the bouncing bombs' developed by Barnes Wallace who also developed the Tallboy Bomb designed to penetrate concrete bunkers (such as the U-Boat pens at St Nazaire etc)
Thanks for sharing this.
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It wasnt the failure of Market Garden that gave the Germans time to regroup. It was Eisenhower's overall broad front strategy, including failures in the Hurtgen Forest, Lorraine, Operation Queen and the Alsace which gave the Germans time to regroup. Eisenhower dispersed the allied armies over a 500km front, squandering/wasting vast amounts of men and supplies in pointless secondary campaigns.
Thanks for sharing
Excellent video . I can’t help but think that even though everybody involved knew it was the end people were still dying . I’m glad I’ve only know peace in Western Europe in my lifetime . I’m not forgetting Ukraine 🇺🇦
To think, that just 15 years later, The Beatles were playing the Indra Club in Hamburg..
Sad to think of all the extra dead (civilian and military) as Doenitz waited 3 days to surrender after he suceeded Hitler. The post war famine where many tens of thousands more died, would not have been so severe either.
It’s pity that in this presentation the battle for Hamburg dose not start till 8min and 13 seconds in. He spends a lot of time getting through Nth Afrika , UK , Normandy.
Gotta tell the full story. Besides, the battle was not that huge.
It would be interesting to have numbers "strong resistance", "many casualties" etc ... We can't figure the scale of magnitudes + battle for Hamburg was not really a battle if well understood. Rather negotiated surrender. We understand allies had to fight city after city, village after village. Such weird strategy from 3rd Reich as everything was better than Soviets. This regime had no clear strategic priorities from the beginning. The only priority was it's own survival at the cost of germans. 😂
Woth hindsight I should have named it the Battle for Hamburg. Perhaps that would be better. Couldnt find that much numbers.
for the British the major objective was Lubech and ensure that the Soviets did not move into Danmark.
That played a part too yes.
Yeah, another shamefully overlooked battle is that of Keren…And a safe bet many El Alemainers have never even heard of it much less care about it even when they hear it mentioned…
Thanks for sharing.
REspect and the battles of the east [Kohima etc.] were dreadful
Can you do one on Douvres La Deliverande in normandy? My cousins grandfather was killed there and we have both been to his grave but from what I can establish is the germans held out for a month there.
Douvres-la-Délivrande (Calvados) was liberated on June the 8th, just 2 DAYS after the landings.
The Inniskillings was a N Ireland regiment no longer in existence
Today or already in April 1945? In the latter case I stand corrected.
6:35 there is a weapon not often seen
I guess yeah.
As a side-note: the concentration-camp Neuengamme near Hamburg was liberated on may 2nd 1945.
Thanks for sharing.
Actually Neuengamme is part of the city of Hamburg. It's in the marches east of the center and very rural. The memorial is worth a visit. Very good exibition.
@@vanValckenburgh-pv9ol I know. I've been there.
@@kimwit1307 Good. I just wanted to give additional information. The liberation is often forgotten because it was evacuated before the British reached it. So there are no depressing pictures or movies from this event. And it seems that not many people know about this camp. But as you surely know: it was a so called "Hauptlager" (main camp) like Dachau for example. The more prominent Bergen-Belsen was it's "Nebenlager" (lit. "side camp").
@@vanValckenburgh-pv9ol It is a bit of an lesser-known camp. I know about it because a great-grandfather of mine died there. He's actually buried in Hamburg.
My Dads regiment the Queen Royal West Surreys took the surrender of Hamburg, Cpl Pass was shot dead as he went forward to accepting the surrender, i have a photo of him being interviewed by Frank Gillard it was online but has been removed , i read that the SS murdered 5 men of Dads battalion with pick axis. @ 9;7 is the town hall where above the Greman officer is the regimental flag . its on youtube
Thanks for sharing.
Hamburg today is very beautiful.
Having come out of the 2nd world war ruin.
Indeed.
Lots of modern buildings in the German cities. Hitler wanted an architectural make-over.
I think the number of people killed in the bombing of Dresden was closer to 100000. With the people fleeing from the east it is difficult in getting the right numbers.
TIK history made an indepth video on the numbers.
The official and historically in-depth investigated number is about 25,000 which is horrible enough. There is no indication or proof that would support higher numbers. These rather date back to the Nazis who used Dresden for their sick propaganda, and there is proof for this. Unfortunately today these numbers are still around and usually used for far right agendas. As if the real numbers of casualties and the devastated cities like Hamburg or Dresden or Warzaw or ... aren't enough to make a point against war.
Yes. The Drrsden deaths vary between 25 000 and 100,000 thousand. Nobody knows.
@@mikebellis5713 Nobody knows for certain the real number. What we now know for certain is that it wasn't 100,000 but rather between 22 and 27,000. There is no evidence that would suggest any higher number than that. The authorities, being German, did quite an exact job (and these documents still exist) given the circumstances. But their numbers got multiplied by the Nazis for propaganda reasons, even for that there is evidence in documents of the time.
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40 thousand? 25 thousand? Using very low estimates? Read the book "The destruction of Dresden."
Your numbers are incorrect I am afraid sir. See accurate video of TIK History on this.
A yes, D Irving is the writer of your book. Denialist and revisionist.
@@HistoryHustle That book is highly acclaimed and was the first book he ever wrote.
D. IRVING WAS TAKEN TO COURT ABOUT CLAIMS IN HIS BOOK.HE LOST THE CASE AND HAD TO PAY DAMAGES.
ALSO A HOLOCAUST DENIER.
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Surviours of july 43 bombing sheltered at the horse race track horner renbahn ?
Didn't know.
5 min to start the topic
Lack of information
Poor interest. Someone should highlight this interesting topic much better
Ok.
Sooo... basically Monty had very little success from the end of summer (MarketGarden) to practically the end of the war. And during the summer very little success i.e.- Caen and Failaise and the Schelde. Prior to that he struggled up the short side of Sicily and ran across the vacated lands of North Africa. Hard to picture him as much of a general.
Patton, the winner of the slowest advance on the Western from, 10 miles in a month in the Ardennes! What a hero. Montgomery had the two fastest advance's. Patton the only General to get sacked twice by Eisenhower, the first was treating his own troops badly, the second was for his anti Jconsolation
@@benwilson6145 What does Patton have to do with Monty's failures? That's called 'deflection'. "Ignore Monty, look over there at Patton." Nice try.
@@finallyfriday. When you are hampered by your Allie like you were in Sicily , it slows you down.
@@benwilson6145 Well, I wouldn't be as cold to say the British hampered the Americans but yeah, I can see why you say that. Because they did hampered them all across Northern France and were a huge materials, logistical and financial burden to the Americans.
@@finallyfriday. On the evening of the 16th on learning that the Germans had smashed a hole in the US 1st Army Montgomery's Chief of Staff ordered the closed units to which were RASC and Ordnance Depot troops to man roadblocks south of Namur. A detachment of Royal Engineers were dispatched to rig the Namur bridge for demolition. The 29th Armoured Brigade were mobilised from Knocke to Namur. . A complete Anti-Tank Regiment of the Royal Artillery which had embarked on a ship at Zeebrugge was disembarked and sent to Namur. The British 30 Corp (Guards Armoured Corp, 43rd, 51st and 53rd Divisions) set up on the West bank of the Muese on the 20th December. The British 6th Airborne were also mobilised from the UK. Late on the night of the 19th General Eisenhower transferred command of the US 1st Army to Montgomery. Morning of the 20th Montgomery and his Staff went to the HQ of the 1st Army General Hodges. Hodges described the situation; two of his Divisions had been surrounded by the Germans and were not in contact. He had had no contact with General Bradley or his staff in two days. He did not know what was happening on his flanks. Montgomery immediately dispatched two Laison Officers to contact the two missing Divisions which they did, resumed contact. The divisions were then told to retreat to help stop the German Advance at a solid defence front. The 29th Armoured Brigade along with elements of the US 2nd Armored Division would stop the German Advance around Ciney and Celles 4 miles from the Muese on the 24/25th of December.
We then have Eisenhower take two armies from his Class Bradley and give them to Monty.
Will you do a video on the genocide of Hindus ordered by Churchill as a token of thanks for fighting on their side and for providing British freeloaders with free money, free gold, free mineral resources, free timber, free coal, human resources and also a video about his Hindu-hatred and racism of British. There are about 2 dozen genocides that the British executed in Bharat. Any video on that?
No. Source?
@@HistoryHustle after starving a couple of millions to death, it shouldn't be difficult to find sources.
There was no genocide of Hindus ordered by Churchill during WW2. This is disgusting Indian propaganda. Churchill managed to get wheat transported from Australia to India after a long struggle to find the ships available to do this. There are Indian economists and historians who have pointed out that the local government in Bengal at the time was largely Muslim, whereas most of the grain merchants were Hindu, and that these two groups all played a part in the Bengal famine.
Mileys Dempsey was Irish 🇮🇪
he was born in New Brighton, Wallasey . England.
his ancient ancestors were from Ireland but had moved out in the 17th century... quite a long time before he was born. besides which Great Britain ruled all the British Isles up until 1921. so BRITISH
Thanks for sharing.
@@coling3957 Ok. But... "his ancient ancestors were from Ireland but had moved out in the 17th century". Thank you!
@@coling3957 came from a clan from Laois/Offaly the family lost all their lands after 1691 battle of the Boyne or perhaps earlier when the clan sided with the crown during the English/Irish civil war
@@coling3957 so was Nelson Irish or British 😂🤣
The Red Army were more merciful in those dark days. They never destroyed whole German cities bombing from the air.
You’re right. Not like they raped, pillaged, and slaughtered innocent women and children in polish towns and cities they captured in 1944-45.
They didn't destroy any cities in Manchuria either.
Think the Reds couldnt muster up the amount of planes to do this.
Didn’t have the planes
You call mass rape merciful
You are well informed about how the Red Army treated the nazi civilians, never heard it described as ‘merciful’ before.
Great video. Thank you!
Thanks for your reply.
HISTORIAN: "HAMBURG WAS A CASE OF SERIOUS OVERKILL."
AMERICAN HISTORIANS: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN?" OUR PILOTS WERE HEROES."
Thanks!
Many thanks for your support once else Jesse!