Restoring my Honda MTX. From start to finish.
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- What have i've been doing, why was it so quiet on my channel??!!
First of all, migraine and back pain.
Second, nesting season for my canaries. A very demanding time for my birds and me.
and then there was something else that bothereed me immensely.
My MTX had some issues which i could no longer ignore.
After several attempts to find someone who could fix the suspension link system on my bike, i finally found someone. I got the repaired link system back in March 2015 and finally i could start operation "Fix 'er up and make it look decent again".
Two years later, the "fix 'er up" part became a restoration. It's been a long time since i've restored a bike and now i know why. After a while it becomes a struggle.
Short history:
The bike is a model 1982 Honda MTX50S, top of the Honda M-family (MT50 and MB50). It was also sold as a motorbike, but in The Netherlands only the 50cc was sold. Later on, this model was replaced with the MTX50R.
The MTX was never a success. It was expensive and heavy, furthermore, it was hard to get some decent horsepower out of the engine. Strangely enough, the engine was similar to that of the MB and MT50.
The MTX was the luxurious working horse though. the electronics were 12 volt, it had a heavy duty luggage rack, frame, and suspension, durable plastic parts, a very big fuel tank and a tachometer.
The overal quality was top notch, the ride was smooth and confortable and nothing felt cheap.
The MTX50S has striking similarities with the Honda XL line, and is regarded as the smallest of the XL's.
The MTX has been with me since i was 16 and has an extensive history. It has taken me to all kinds of places, including 400 km long trips. Now it is time for its retirement, only to be taken for a ride on nice and sunny days.
Some modifications were made to this one. The front wheel is now a 21" instead of the 18" (Dutch regulations only allowed wheels of the same diameter at that time).
The cylinder is an aluminium 50cc Airsal with NiCaSil coating instead of the cast iron one.
The exhaust is a classic LuHao.
The air connecting tube is the English version (original Honda).
The carburetor is a 16mm Keihin (original Honda).
The inlet manifold is original, but milled out to match the carburetor.
The reedvalves are homemade 0,15mm carbon ones.
The rims are D.I.D. 21" and 18". If i can get hold of the original steel chromed ones, they'll be replaced.
The taillight is the English version.
Nuts and bolts have been kept original as much as possible.
Swearwords used during the restoration; (censored), (censored), (censored) and most of all (censored).
Tools most used: Left and right hand.
Special thanks to: My rotating steel brush and cleaning agent.
Thanks for watching!
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My apologies for the lousy choise of music.
Tip; the photos appear for a short amount ot time (lots of them and i didn't want to make the video last for much longer). Pause at any moment to see more of the details.
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In March 2015, i decided to restore this bike, knowing that it would take a lot of time and effort.
By the end of September, i had surgery after a hernia was discovered. A couple of worn out disks pinched some nerves. That made me able to walk again, but i'm still not fully functional.
Migraine attacks still appear every now and then, disabling me from doing anything at all.
Last year, my mother had open heart surgery, and became sick soon after that. She's doing better now.
All of these things just happen, life is just being life. Sometimes things just need to be done so i carried on with the restoration of this bike. Unfortunately, all of this caused me to neglect my channel and my dear subscribers... and i apologise for that.
Now that this bike is done, a load fell off of my back, and the extra time i now have will be used for my RC's!
What a fantastic job,nice to see another moped from our youth saved,well done
Thanks for the compliment, i'm glad you like it!
Had one myself. With 125 cc. Pretty damn quick, but not quick enough to outrun the police😂Could hold them off for half an hour but by then I had half the police force chasing me😬 bikes were not allowed in the Netherlands so the cops destroyed it 😩restauration is pure magic! Congratulations .
The motorbike police is well trained, hard to outrun them. Shame they destroyed it :-( And even a bigger shame Honda never sold the motorbike versions in the Netherlands. It's a bit on the heavy side for 50cc, the motorbikes were excelent (i've driven a 125 once).
Thanks for watching and the compliment!
Wat heb je nou weer gedaan
2stroke4me they did had the mt8 if you mean motorbike with that
Ah yes many Honda MB/MT/MTX's ended this way in the Netherlands,.
Even today driving around on these bikes is like holding a red piece of cloth in front of a raging bull for a dutch police officer 😂😂😂
The chance they will pull you over for a check is about 100%, 😂😂
Insurance costs for these mopeds was twice as high because none of them where stock and lots of accidents happened with them.
I got away very lucky one time with my tuned Honda MT (70cc,21mm carb etc etc) they only gave a 175 guilder fine (that was a lot 23 years ago) and i could continue on my way, and it did 85 km/h quite easy is where it's only allowed to go 45 km/h max. 😂
I still have my MT today and now getting ready to put it together again after being stored in parts for 20 years!
Thanks really enjoyed your video, I had a black mtx50 when I was 16 (1986) and loved taking it apart and putting back together again almost as much a I loved riding it, I did 25 thousand miles in that year, that’s a lot of hours in the saddle with a max speed of 38 lol. Watching your video brought it all back, hope your restored mtx goes as good as she now looks.
Hey, thanks for the compliment!
It was quite the bike in those days, and it still feels like a mature bike now. They weren't the quickest, but they're real confortable work horses. Mine also does 38 mph, although i tend to ride around 33 mph.
Nice Restored Bike you got god job.
Thank you!!
Dude it looks amazing!!! Must be a great little bike to thrash about on. Glad to hear from you again, hope you are well and the back is not to bad. Good luck!!
Thanks mate! It's quick and nimble and most of all a lot of fun. I'm getting used to my sore back, but the unpredictable nature of the migraine is annoying (to put it mildly).
Now that that load is off my back, RC's are back into my sight ;-)
I am about to start my project. It is the same bike but maybe a 90-91 model. It was my first bike. I will attempt to do what you have done. Well done. I’m very impressed.
Awesome! Thanks for the compliment and i wish you good luck with the restoration!
2stroke4me she arrives tonight.
Awesome! Have fun with the project :D
2stroke4me, hey man have a look I have finally got my first video out. czcams.com/video/Gsdr1XkL0go/video.html
@@ryanhawkermoto Sorry for the late reply, CZcams decided to mark your comment as spam.
I'll have a look at it right away!
Awesome rebuild! Looked amazing! Been wondering how things are going! Glad to know what's been up! Keep up the great work and we understand all to well about life and taking care of the things that need to be taking care of! We will see you around my friend! Thumbs up!
Hello Cody and family! My mother had open heart surgery last year and got sick soon after that. So she needed all the help she could get. That, my migraine and back problem caused me to neglect my channel and you guys, my dear subscribers. Now that this bike (which just had to be done sometimes) is done and my mother is feeling a bit better, i can start having fun with my RC's again. Life was just being life i guess.
Greetings to you and your family!
We understand all to well about open heart surgery in this family. Between my son having 2 so far in his little life and then my dad several years back before he passed away last year it's been a crazy bunch of stuff. Family always first my friend! I know we had wondered where you had gone too, but now we know and take your time. We are so glad to hear your mom is doing better. It's tough watching your loved ones go through tough times. We sure look forward to some great rc adventures with you again. Take care my friend! ;-)
I'm sorry to hear about your dad ,y friend. It's always good to see your son having a great time with the RC's (yes, i do watch videos every now and then. Compliments on the camera work by the way!). At that age they need all the support they can get and enjoy life as much as possible. Facing the wold's problems is for much later. Enjoying life whenever possible is what is what i advised to myself, and that includes RC's :-)
Fantastic restoration looks brand new, man that was an awesome "fix her up" video matey enjoyed every second of that. Glad your back buddy you have been missed. Just saying to my wife the other day you hadn't posted a bit for ages. Makes sense now with all that work to do. Welcome back dude!
Thanks for the kind words mate! Soon after my mother got surgery, she became sick and needed help. That, and migraine and my back problem, slowed it down. The bike was really a pain in the neck and had to be restored sooner or later. Riding it felt like torturing the poor bike, but now it's ready for the next 30+ years i hope.
Greetings to you and the missus mate!
hey dude don't worry about us anyone with an ounce of commen decency will understand crap happens, very rarely giving any warning. good luck my friend I also suffer from migraines and a distended disc so know where your coming from all the best from me and the Mrs matey
Thanks for the heads up my friend! It's a bit sad to see my RC's sitting motionless here, but now i've got some spare time back, it's RC time again. After all, enjoyment is a part of life, isn't it ;-)
The original headlight is very dangerous at night because it lights up less well than a moped, I changed it to a car headlight and a dimmer on the handlebars of the motorcycle, it lights up really well, especially with a long range.
Yes i agree, although in the 80's it was adequate. During the restoration i've polished the reflector and glass and now it's a bit better.
you did a really wonderful job it is completely new! can you tell me where the oil pump adjustment screw is? because I don't know whether to lower or raise the screw.
@@guillaumegenest3648 Thanks mate! There are marks on the oil pumb body and lever. They should align when the throttle is fully opened. Adjustment is done with the cable.
Mooiste mtx ot die ik heb gezien
Dank je! Hij wordt nog mooier want de tank gaat er eindelijk ook aan geloven!
Nice mtx ot
Thanks! You've got a great nickname!
@@2stroke4me thank you very much
Good job mate,i have a mtx 80 but in greece its a bit difficult to find parts...i want to restore it but its difficult to find front suspensions rear suspensions and staff like that!
Thanks mate! Parts are indeed hard to find, but i think CMS could help you out:
www.cmsnl.com/search/?section=all&q=honda+mtx+80&tab=
Good luck with tthe restoration!!
Have found Honda mb/mt50 Bikes face book page? You done a fantastic job
Thanks mate! My social media is limited to G+ and CZcams.
dag , zeer leuke video , waar kan ik het best onderdelen kopen voor een mtx? ik heb een mtx 50 r
Hallo. onderdelen zijn te vinden op honda-m-shop.com en cmsnl.com.
Succes met de MTX!
Love the gold wheels, did they come stock on this or where they from the Cr Motocross?
That seal that let your fuel pass i had the same problem with my suzuki tsx from 1984 it's a real pain in the ass
Those seals have a hard life. I found out that pre-mix fuel and the injection oil from a certain oil company made those seals wear out fast.
The TSR was a wonderful bike! Do you still have it?
@@2stroke4me yes I do I ride it everyday to school and back it's a real tank the engine
@@gieltimmermans6030 Cool!! Take good care of it, they are rare and look much better than mopeds nowadays.
I bet it makes a lot of heads turn :D
Hoi, weet je nog of je alle onderdelen zelf hebt opgeschuurd of hebt laten zandstralen? En als je het gezandstraald hebt, heb je dat dan zelf gedaan? Mooie mtx👌
Dank je! Het frame, achterbrug en een paar andere onderdelen heb ik laten zandstralen, de rest heb ik geschuurd.
Cuantos kilómetros puede durar una honda mtx 125? How many kilometers can a honda mtx 125 last?
That completely depends on how the owner treats it. If one follows the service intervals as specified in the service manual, they're virtually indestructible.
This thing looks prime im 14 and i just dissassembled my whole mt5 and repainted it but unfortunately i don’t have all the money in the world so i used cheap paint which i regret because its wearing off
I used very cheap paint too (Action paint) as a base color, but oversprayed it with the Honda color.So far it looks to be durable.
nice job! i just got one a few days back...having a bit of trouble keepin it goin at times dont really know much about bikes but could be the air filter an carb needs doing..how much would these bikes go for restored ?
Check the compression, it usually tells you a lot.
I have no idea what these are worth. I guess it's not enough to make a profit from since they're unknown and look too modern (not accepted as classic).
Sorry for the late response!
Hallo, weet je nog in welke kleuren je dit hebt laten spuiten?
Ik heb 'm gespoten in Honda R110.
well, hope you see this now... i have a mtx 80 ot it was a 50 r but put a 80 in to it.. its after locking up on me an won't start anymore, can't even move the kickstart.. what Cylinder is that is it the 54mm or the 57mm i was going to buy the Cylinder kit Honda MTX 80, HD06 Big Bore 115cc Tuning but I'm thinking maybe just get the ZETA54mm HC01, HD02, HD06 Cylinder ?
The Zeta should fit onto the 80cc engine. I have no experience with the 80cc MTX.
@@2stroke4me alright ok thanks
Lol i have a mtx 2 i am rebould it
I seem to have a similar problem on my Honda bike: engine suddenly went lean and stopped. It fires up then it stalls. Could you please share the location of "perpetrator" seal and how to check it?
Sounds indeed as a similar problem. The seal is located behind the flywheel. If the ignition coils and the inside of the flywheel are wet (from the fuel), the seal is either worn out or it has popped out.
Remove the seal, clean the surface thoroughly with brake cleaner and a paper towel.
Measure the depth minus 1 milimeter of where the seal was, and subtract it with the thickness of the new seal. That's the maximum depth of where the new seal should sit (the 1mm is precautionary).
Put the new seal in place and put a small amount of superglue around the crank case where the seal sits. Be careful not to glue the crank and seal together!
Thanks a lot for your quick and detailed answer. Much appreciated!
@@DA-xn6dg No problem at all, i hope the problem is fixed soon.
Do you know what sort of speed an mtx 50 could get with an aftermarket exhaust?
That depends, the Dutch version can reach a speed of around 50 ~ 55 km/h with a good exhaust, proper jetting and slightly taller gearing.
2stroke4me 2stroke4me ah, I ask because I’m hopefully in the next few days picking up a 84 mtx 50 but I’m assuming it’s the uk model, it has an aftermarket exhaust and as far as I could see that was the only addition, I’ve been told it would top around 35?
The UK models are just as restricted as the Dutch models (if i'm correct), so 35 (miles per hour = 55 km/h) sounds just about right. Enjoy the ride mate!
2stroke4me I got the bike now, it needs some work tho, the throttle sticks and the clutch is quite stiff, but it has been sat for a while, oh and the low beam doesn’t work? Starts fine and runs alright just these little things
Sounds like the cables need some lubrication (or new ones) and a new lightbulb. Enjoy the ride mate!
what carburetor mounts?
Original, but reworked to the carburetor's inner diameter (16mm).
Hij staat toch te koop
Nee, hij blijft bij z'n baasje ;)
The mtx sh is nog a shit bike ist a big bike and very nice te ride for a tall guy like me and it has decent power
I don't know who said it was a shit bike, but in those days, it was the best quality bike available.
Hoi
Hallo