AMD keeps it's signature efficiency there with performance per watt, however it will have to start improving it as Intel is striking back with Lunar Lake while both r still far from what can be achieved with custom Arm SoCs like those from Apple for example. Only if Apple would have more games and gaming support on their platform, something what they r now building and what should come in the future. All Mx chips r performance per watt beasts getting better and better🦾 Nvidia is planning to come up with something as well together with Mediatek.
apu is great for mobile device their desktop is just pathetic they wont ever add more gpu core in desktop for some reason but these mobile device get all of them in smaller form factor
I was a console player till the ally came out been on oc ever since. However if you have a good pc the ally is nothing more than a portable way to play your games and should not be your main rig. I'm planning on buying a desktop bc of this.
@coryvallad7578 not my main rig, last pc I made was in 2020 it was beefy at the time. Still a beast now because I used it to play VR games. But I love how I can play my other pc games not limited by Linux. Absolutely love Linux as a os though which is what I use my PI 5 for.
I already purchased a steamdeck,loaded it with a bunch of emulators, a bunch of games and it just sits in a closet collecting dust. Glad to see many of you still get excited over these portables and finding value. Great health and Happy gaming to all of you.
great review! Good to see that while it's an upgrade it's not a HUGE improvement over the original outside of battery life. A lot of the other fixes like battery and analog controls are simple change outs for a tinkerer which could easily save you $200. I was on the fence on getting the X or an older one and modding it and for my use case, older modded is the way to go.
even though the screen is 7in? it lacks the immersion for AAA games. i wouldn't get it if i was you, i would wait till they start producing 8.4in screens versions instead
@@draco2xxI agree with that statement but using the ROG ALLY for a year, it hasn’t bother me, but to play PC games on a handheld, 7” is the bare minimum and 8” is the sweet spot.
@@perezcoalten i don't think you've even experienced playing on a 8.4in screen before. i promise you, once you do you'll never go back to play on a 7in screen
There isn't any handhelds at this time. They will probably be a few maybe at CES. If not it will be mid-year instead of either showing it for the first time or it being available. So at the earliest another year from now.
I've been wanting a handheld PC for ages. With this battery life, and my interests primarily in retro gaming and emulation, and maybe some Diablo VI and Titan Quest 2, this looks like the one to finally make me pull the trigger. Cheers for the deep dive Mr Prime :D
try cachyos instead, bazzite currently has an installer issue where the screen is flipped and cut in half forcing you to need a dock and mouse to install correctly. Also cachyos comes with precompiled optimised linux kernals much newer than bazzite, amoungst many other tweaks. Cachy is based on Arch whereas Bazzite is based on Fedora Blue which is owned by RedHat and the less said about that company the better.
Some people are upset about the price and comparisons to the Deck. The Deck is a system to move Emulators and Indies mainly. The Rog moves everything. Then about the price... Dude, they are giving you Double on almost everything... Battery, Ram, Storage... Do you also want the processor?? Well, nothing, €1200 then. Come go... They are raising the price by double that of almost everything, don't complain, it is VERY worth it just for €300 more. +50% RAM. +100% Battery. +100% Storage. + Hardware, Sound, Cooling and Ergonomics improvements. For €300 more... Try to do it yourself in your first version and see how much you get...
Yeah half the people think that Oled is a selling point yet they have never owned an oled device and the other half are Deck simps, what do you expect 😅
I was going to upgrade from the og ally to this one for that battery update and better grips but after getting the xg mobile 6850m for a good price I'll just wait for the next iteration.
I also got that same XGM. How much did you get it for? I got mine a little after the Ally launch for $600 like new. I was so close to getting the 4090 XGM during prime day for $1,500 but kinda bum that Asus is dropping support for it with the X. If the Ally 2 has it tho which I doubt plus a bigger screen for sure I will get the 4090 XGM tho. Hopefully by then it will only cost around $1,200 or so haha.
@volcalstone I also got it like new as well at around the same price range, I couldn't pass up on the deal and tbh it's been a great experience so far! The 6850m is a beast at 1440p. Honestly it is perplexing for me as well that they opt to not support the xgm on the x but for my use case of my i usually keep it plugged in anyway so I'll just update to the 4090 in a few years if need be or just wait for the rog ally 2!
@@demariogoings4295 the Ally and XGM setup is what I passed on to my daughter now as I recently picked up the Go again. I had it at launch but returned it due to the UI and it wasn't ready for primetime. ACSE on the Ally is perfect if you ask me and it's only getting better soon with the new update that is on the X now. I needed a bigger screen so I had to let go of the Ally. If it had a bigger screen I would still be playing on it. The Go is nicer for me overall but just like you I'm waiting for the Ally 2 with the Strix Point APU. Hopefully it will have a bigger screen, if not then I guess it will be something else. I love Asus stuff as I also have a 2022 Flow 16 so that was one of the other reasons why I picked up the XGM to use it on both devices. Of course the gains are bigger on the Ally while my laptop has a 130W 3060 which is around 10-20% less in performance than a 6850M XT. I love AMD for their CPUs but I'm more on the green team when it comes to the GPU. My first choice was the 3080 XGM but those were too expensive at that time. It was more expensive than my X16 Flow laptop alone! 😊 Either way good luck and I can't wait for next year when it comes to handhelds. Btw I barely use my custom 4090 rig anymore since I got back into the handheld game. I just found out that I like more portable stuff overall haha. I will still keep my rig tho as it's a nice show piece haha. I need to put something on my desk right? 😁
I have a lenovo legion go and a steam deck and the only problem i have with my legion go is how i hold a controller i play with my hands in a double claw position and the legion go is not a handheld made for me its blocky and big but the steam deck has one of the best controller layouts for how i play i love my steam deck even tho its weaker i just wish there was something i can use as hard as my legion go i use that thing for tuning my car and actually is a productivity item and the rog ally seems like a trade off i can only play claw unless i use my index finger for the left joystick am pretty used to but i dont enjoy playing like that for a long period of time hopefully someone comes up with a steam deck layout but with the internals of this so i can play in peace but also use it as a productivity hog and work and for hobbies
It would be awesome to see a video showing the performance of the Ally X when allocating different amounts of RAM to the VRAM! Also a video utilizing eGPUs, especially now that this has a thunderbolt port instead of the XG mobile one. Great video by the way! I’ve been waiting for the X to come out so I can get your perspective and experience with this before I buy 🫡🤝
Hey ETA: My only question is this: Is there any reason you would know why they couldn't up the memory on the Original Ally to 7500 mt/s via firmware update? I ask because I own a few of the smaller Handheld brands like AoKZoe A1 Pro and they did exactly that. They shipped with lower speed ram and updated them later via over the air firmware update.
If that's true, the RAM in those handhelds you mentioned were already capable of that and were probably downlclocked for stability reasons until the companies decided they had a good mass market firmware to distribute. The ROG Ally's RAM is already functionally maxed out. If you want the new speed RAM on the old Ally, you'll have to solder better quality silicon capable of those speeds into it.
@@k3nsh1n4life+1 the ram in those handhelds were underclocked, they just updated it to the speed it was rated at our supposed to have been. I believe the OG Rog Ally can be physically upgraded with 32GB 7500mt ram but it's pretty involved, unless you can get a shop or someone to do it for you.
Glad I didn't buy thr OG ROG Ally given the issues, thia one is an upgrade indeed and I can't wait o get it this December 2024 (ain't one of those who buy immediately given there will be update/iteration later on.
I want to take it but it pisses me off to have to transfer my 2 TB from my Z1 extreme. I don't have the motivation, I prefer to wait for the Rog Ally 2.
none of windows handheld can compete this year, maybe legion go has a larger screen, but 1600p is overkilll for the poor chip and its 16:10 meaning lots of indie and japanese games will leave you 2 black bars on top and bottom with that ips glow to your eyes
@@OleksiiK21 yeah you could argue steam deck oled has oled and better price and the os is incredible, in fact I own one for more than 6months now. But in what way is legion go better than ally x lol? does it have better battery life? is it lighter? is the screen native landscape with vrr support? does it have a better frontend app? does it have better button layout like a true xbox controller? or does it have better cooling & fan noise? or does it have more and faster ram?
Man ETA, I was hoping to see the usual racing games in your review. Since this device does very well with console emulation, rGT4 or Forza Horizon should run fully speed in performance mode. Crazy for a handheld to do that and still have more than reasonable battery life.
The analog sticks seem to be smaller than the regular ones on the PS5 and Xbox controllers. I don't like the idea of the controllers being fixed to the screen; if you have any problems with the analogs, it will be complicated to fix.
@@skywalker3760 pues la vdd muy bien. La recomiendo, con el único juego que tengo problemas” es con el DD2. De resto juego a unos 19W o 21W y como la batería es de 80W pues estoy jugando cerca de unas 3 horas tranquilamente.
Ik ppl talk bad about the lil cardboard stands, but honestly, its better than nothing The amount of times i have needed a stand for my deck and i have to use my phone stand all wobbly is crazy lol At least this one stands it up firmly and if u take care of it, it shouldnt rip or break
You should have upped the vram a litte to see what kind of performance boost that would give the games. Realistically you dont need 16 gb for the OS especially if dont have multiple tabs and apps open at once. I would have bumped it up to 12 and then left 12 for the OS plenty for both.....
Does this means that XG mobile GPUs are not supported on the new model? I saw that ROG Flow series is kinda discontinued from last year so this might mean the end for XG mobile 😢
Question about the Timespy results at 11:43… is that 17w,25, or plugged in 30w? I’m only getting something close to that when I’m plugged in on 30 with my Ally X.
Only after watching this I realized the Ally x reminds me of the Sega Game gear. I guess it's good progress after 30 years considering this is a portable and powerful x86 computer-dream come true for pocketable PC. As a gaming device, i feel the progress a bit sluggish. The $800 asking price is a bit steep considering the only huge upgrade is the RAM. I guess next AMD APU and handhelds will cost more??
The battery is the biggest update. If you didn’t have an issue with the OG then no need to upgrade. You don’t get meaningful changes otherwise. $900 is a bit much and adding OLED would cost more.
Removing the eGPU port shouldn't be much of an issue because the people using that port are presumably gaming plugged in just as much as using the ROG Ally for mobile gaming, it should be a safe assumption that the ROG Ally X won't see nearly as much desktop use as the v1 ROG Ally.
Been seeing reviews on best buy that some people have been having it not turn on at all even with it plugged in someone had the right trigger completely stop working after 30 mins but mostly the bad reviews were about how the battery will not hold a charge at all or it just won't turn on so take that as you will
2:15 They should not upgrade, it's not something worth spending that much more money into a company that can't even provide proper warranty support. And it's not yet on RDNA4 or Zen5 so it's not a performance upgrade too. It's way better to buy Steam Deck Oled in this price point.
@@dj4monie I understand but I'm specifically in the use case where a handheld and a eGpu dock can benefit for me due to the form factor and the portability. I don't mind the prince nor playing in ultra settings. I'm aware this is an investment with drawbacks, but there is no alternative for now, when you roam a lot and you don't want to carry a heavy Gaming laptop.
I'm halfway through the review but I'm going to go ahead and predict it will be another Windows handheld review without showing suspend/resume with several games.
I was considering getting the Ally X but in the end, I ordered the Steam Deck Oled because of the user experience, community, and the oled screen. If I need extra juice for running triple A games, I'll stream my 4090 7800X3D pc to my deck
Its your choice then. You will miss out on lossless scaling, the best frame Gen thing to happen and you can basically run anything with 60fps or above. The steam deck only has selective games that work with fsr3 and only if the devs modded it in. Lossless scaling works with all games even emulators on the get go.
@@jackykwan2580not everyone craves fake frames, 30fps is completely acceptable for long gaming sessions without a power brick nearby. If you really wanted high fps in games, why even use a handheld? And even if you got an ally, how long would it last without a charger and with frame gen turned on? That thing consumes a lot of power.
You'll see the "user experience" on your own. There was not a day when steamOS worked without an issue. Why would you stream AAA games on small 800p OLED display where in most cases text is so small, you can barely read it? There is a community mostly just because you have to emulate Windows on Linux. That community that makes mods don't really add anything special. It's your choice.
@@martinklein2201a lot games text are readable it's just some games don't have good scaling for smaller screen with text like higher resolution screen ones leaving the 1080p text gets even smaller.
Why don't you use the full 8gb of vram as the extra vram and ram added will help with performance. Compare the ROG Ally X where it should benefit the upgrade, please.
![BEST Gaming Handheld in 2024!? [Steam Deck OLED | Ally X | Legion Go | Claw]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/czoKrKcgHaY/mqdefault.jpg)
14:58 This part is really good to see performance per watt. Apu at 17 Watt is the highest efficiency and to get 3h+ on it is awesome
AMD keeps it's signature efficiency there with performance per watt, however it will have to start improving it as Intel is striking back with Lunar Lake while both r still far from what can be achieved with custom Arm SoCs like those from Apple for example. Only if Apple would have more games and gaming support on their platform, something what they r now building and what should come in the future. All Mx chips r performance per watt beasts getting better and better🦾 Nvidia is planning to come up with something as well together with Mediatek.
apu is great for mobile device
their desktop is just pathetic
they wont ever add more gpu core in desktop for some reason but these mobile device get all of them in smaller form factor
@@El.Duder-inoApple doesn't care for gaming
@@chriswright8074 Not anymore. Maybe u should look around first.
@@chriswright8074 Not anymore. Things have changed since M1.
I'm missing that robot playing and relaxing opening.
So retro
I'm glad they tightened up the thumb sticks. The ally felt way too 'loose'
Got the new armory crate update yesterday. It runs so much smoother now.
It does very much I downloaded it earlier today on my OG Ally. Btw I don't have the Z1 Extreme
I'm loving these PC gaming handhelds its just like playing PSP back in the day
got my normal ally z1 extreme for 447€ and im nearly always near a power plug, so im happy with that.
That doesn't make it portable do it? You could invest in a PD capable power bank to extend battery life.
Same here. I'll wait till is on sale 3 months from now
$100 seems very fair for additional 512GB of SSD storage, 8GB of faster RAM, 80Wh battery and a USB4 port.
Waiting for mine. Was happy with my Z1 Extreme and havent touched my steamdeck since I got it.
Facts.. haven't touched my Steam Deck or gaming rig since i got an Ally
I was a console player till the ally came out been on oc ever since. However if you have a good pc the ally is nothing more than a portable way to play your games and should not be your main rig. I'm planning on buying a desktop bc of this.
@coryvallad7578 not my main rig, last pc I made was in 2020 it was beefy at the time. Still a beast now because I used it to play VR games. But I love how I can play my other pc games not limited by Linux. Absolutely love Linux as a os though which is what I use my PI 5 for.
I have a question for you why do you keep the Steamdeck if you never use it you could sell it and get a quick couple hundred bucks
@@coryvallad7578why not just dock it?
The video I have been waitinfg for. You my friend are my go to guy for this type of content.
I already purchased a steamdeck,loaded it with a bunch of emulators, a bunch of games and it just sits in a closet collecting dust. Glad to see many of you still get excited over these portables and finding value. Great health and Happy gaming to all of you.
Waiting on FedEx😵💫
That Crowdstrike Windows issue is affecting deliveries so it might be delayed a bit
Waiting for Best Buy to open lol
@@MaxrepfitgmBRUH DON’T SAY THAT 😂😂
I already got mine !!! Arrived today😂
would love to see the Ally X with Bazzite, as well as, with an eGPU (also while using Bazzite)
Waiting for my preorder to arrive
@@Chubby_Ninja1 when are they going to ship the pre-orders 🥲
@@ianprimus9868 should have been today
4:40 “LDPPR5X” 🤣
Lets see him face off against the Legion Go please?
Thanks in advance.
@@cameronweston1038 it's got way better performance and battery life, but the graphics and refresh rate are better on the legion
great review! Good to see that while it's an upgrade it's not a HUGE improvement over the original outside of battery life. A lot of the other fixes like battery and analog controls are simple change outs for a tinkerer which could easily save you $200. I was on the fence on getting the X or an older one and modding it and for my use case, older modded is the way to go.
I shall be purchasing this soon
even though the screen is 7in? it lacks the immersion for AAA games. i wouldn't get it if i was you, i would wait till they start producing 8.4in screens versions instead
@@draco2xx the 7 inch doesn't bother me
@@draco2xxI agree with that statement but using the ROG ALLY for a year, it hasn’t bother me, but to play PC games on a handheld, 7” is the bare minimum and 8” is the sweet spot.
@@perezcoalten i don't think you've even experienced playing on a 8.4in screen before. i promise you, once you do you'll never go back to play on a 7in screen
@@draco2xx this is a handheld. We don’t need a big @ss screen. 7 is perfect😊
The thing is, why get this when Strix Point handhelds will be appearing in a few weeks?
Laptops will be 1st and then AMD will have to customize a chip for handheld's so it will be late next year.
@@malcaniscsm5184 next year
@malcaniscsm5184 Exactly why Asus had to release this late cycle refresh right now. It'll be discounted soon enough.
There isn't any handhelds at this time. They will probably be a few maybe at CES. If not it will be mid-year instead of either showing it for the first time or it being available. So at the earliest another year from now.
OneXPlayer will have a strix point out in a few months I'm willing to bet. They already have an 8840u X1 with a 10.9" VRR screen and 32g ram.
I've been wanting a handheld PC for ages. With this battery life, and my interests primarily in retro gaming and emulation, and maybe some Diablo VI and Titan Quest 2, this looks like the one to finally make me pull the trigger. Cheers for the deep dive Mr Prime :D
Amazing battery life! What a great piece of hardware
Please do a egpu video with benchmarks for the rog ally x
Going to put bazzite on mine
try cachyos instead, bazzite currently has an installer issue where the screen is flipped and cut in half forcing you to need a dock and mouse to install correctly. Also cachyos comes with precompiled optimised linux kernals much newer than bazzite, amoungst many other tweaks. Cachy is based on Arch whereas Bazzite is based on Fedora Blue which is owned by RedHat and the less said about that company the better.
The battery life us a lot better. Comparable to the oled.
The rma process is fine in the uk if you buy froma normal store like currys.
New fav channel? Yup!
Been waiting for your video thank you
Some people are upset about the price and comparisons to the Deck.
The Deck is a system to move Emulators and Indies mainly. The Rog moves everything.
Then about the price... Dude, they are giving you Double on almost everything... Battery, Ram, Storage...
Do you also want the processor?? Well, nothing, €1200 then. Come go...
They are raising the price by double that of almost everything, don't complain, it is VERY worth it just for €300 more.
+50% RAM.
+100% Battery.
+100% Storage.
+ Hardware, Sound, Cooling and Ergonomics improvements.
For €300 more... Try to do it yourself in your first version and see how much you get...
Yeah half the people think that Oled is a selling point yet they have never owned an oled device and the other half are Deck simps, what do you expect 😅
I was going to upgrade from the og ally to this one for that battery update and better grips but after getting the xg mobile 6850m for a good price I'll just wait for the next iteration.
I also got that same XGM. How much did you get it for? I got mine a little after the Ally launch for $600 like new. I was so close to getting the 4090 XGM during prime day for $1,500 but kinda bum that Asus is dropping support for it with the X. If the Ally 2 has it tho which I doubt plus a bigger screen for sure I will get the 4090 XGM tho. Hopefully by then it will only cost around $1,200 or so haha.
@volcalstone I also got it like new as well at around the same price range, I couldn't pass up on the deal and tbh it's been a great experience so far! The 6850m is a beast at 1440p. Honestly it is perplexing for me as well that they opt to not support the xgm on the x but for my use case of my i usually keep it plugged in anyway so I'll just update to the 4090 in a few years if need be or just wait for the rog ally 2!
@@demariogoings4295 the Ally and XGM setup is what I passed on to my daughter now as I recently picked up the Go again. I had it at launch but returned it due to the UI and it wasn't ready for primetime. ACSE on the Ally is perfect if you ask me and it's only getting better soon with the new update that is on the X now. I needed a bigger screen so I had to let go of the Ally. If it had a bigger screen I would still be playing on it.
The Go is nicer for me overall but just like you I'm waiting for the Ally 2 with the Strix Point APU. Hopefully it will have a bigger screen, if not then I guess it will be something else.
I love Asus stuff as I also have a 2022 Flow 16 so that was one of the other reasons why I picked up the XGM to use it on both devices. Of course the gains are bigger on the Ally while my laptop has a 130W 3060 which is around 10-20% less in performance than a 6850M XT. I love AMD for their CPUs but I'm more on the green team when it comes to the GPU. My first choice was the 3080 XGM but those were too expensive at that time. It was more expensive than my X16 Flow laptop alone! 😊
Either way good luck and I can't wait for next year when it comes to handhelds. Btw I barely use my custom 4090 rig anymore since I got back into the handheld game. I just found out that I like more portable stuff overall haha. I will still keep my rig tho as it's a nice show piece haha. I need to put something on my desk right? 😁
Finally, a portable gaming system with some battery life. Steamdeck oled and this feel like the only sensible options
I have a lenovo legion go and a steam deck and the only problem i have with my legion go is how i hold a controller i play with my hands in a double claw position and the legion go is not a handheld made for me its blocky and big but the steam deck has one of the best controller layouts for how i play i love my steam deck even tho its weaker i just wish there was something i can use as hard as my legion go i use that thing for tuning my car and actually is a productivity item and the rog ally seems like a trade off i can only play claw unless i use my index finger for the left joystick am pretty used to but i dont enjoy playing like that for a long period of time hopefully someone comes up with a steam deck layout but with the internals of this so i can play in peace but also use it as a productivity hog and work and for hobbies
Great video as always keep it up 👍
i am interested to see how it fairs once valve makes a rog ally compatible version of steamos.
should also mention how hot is it?
does it burn your hand? in turbo?
It's a miracle he did a comparison between to devices. I never thought this would happen. I wish this would happen more often😂
LMAO RIGHT!
You should add testing minecraft with the best shaders and high render distance to these videos
The screen aspect ratio is my issue. Also the size of the screen.
@@arzayus84 yep oled wins
They should have increased the size for sure
imagine if these things have touchscreen to type on or even a qwerty slide out or on the back
its literally a full portable pc
they do have a touch screen
It is a touchscreen lol
Is there a hard disk that emulates old and new games in a size of 500g that you recommend purchasing through the Aliexpress application?
It would be awesome to see a video showing the performance of the Ally X when allocating different amounts of RAM to the VRAM! Also a video utilizing eGPUs, especially now that this has a thunderbolt port instead of the XG mobile one. Great video by the way! I’ve been waiting for the X to come out so I can get your perspective and experience with this before I buy 🫡🤝
Hey ETA: My only question is this: Is there any reason you would know why they couldn't up the memory on the Original Ally to 7500 mt/s via firmware update? I ask because I own a few of the smaller Handheld brands like AoKZoe A1 Pro and they did exactly that. They shipped with lower speed ram and updated them later via over the air firmware update.
If that's true, the RAM in those handhelds you mentioned were already capable of that and were probably downlclocked for stability reasons until the companies decided they had a good mass market firmware to distribute. The ROG Ally's RAM is already functionally maxed out. If you want the new speed RAM on the old Ally, you'll have to solder better quality silicon capable of those speeds into it.
@@k3nsh1n4life+1 the ram in those handhelds were underclocked, they just updated it to the speed it was rated at our supposed to have been. I believe the OG Rog Ally can be physically upgraded with 32GB 7500mt ram but it's pretty involved, unless you can get a shop or someone to do it for you.
Better than expected!
Its not worth it for existing Ally Z1E owners to upgrade to the Ally X, waiting for next gen SOCs for this form factor
I swear we all have the same little green plant. 😂
That SDcard location though still on top.
Can you test out the ROG Gaming NUC next to see if Manjaro Linux works, especially with the NVIDIA drivers?
With Strix Point 3 weeks away I don't get what's the point in a 900€ 2023 chip equipped handheld
Glad I didn't buy thr OG ROG Ally given the issues, thia one is an upgrade indeed and I can't wait o get it this December 2024 (ain't one of those who buy immediately given there will be update/iteration later on.
hopefully the next revision is a little smaller, same screen size but smaller overall. battery could be something in between the two rog ally devices
11:07 vram on both the allys are different from 4gb and 8gb so not much of a fair comparison
For $800 is not worth it for me. I’ll wait for a bigger screen.
Wouldn't that make it less portable????
Ummm why are you here than, if that were the case you would have bought your lenovo legion and left COPE SOMEWHERE ELSE
I want to take it but it pisses me off to have to transfer my 2 TB from my Z1 extreme. I don't have the motivation, I prefer to wait for the Rog Ally 2.
If u already own a Ally z1 extreme, it is really not worth the upgrade. Just wait for Ally 2 so you dont kick yourself after a year or two.
Will the Ally X fit in the same travel case as the OG Ally?
probably yes
I heard it doesn’t on some cases
@@OMGdidyouJuStSeeDAT Won't fit in the ROG Ally travel case? I just got mine two months ago but I have just the Z1 not the Extreme.
Been waiting for this, great review! I’d really like to see it go against the Legion Go
none of windows handheld can compete this year, maybe legion go has a larger screen, but 1600p is overkilll for the poor chip and its 16:10 meaning lots of indie and japanese games will leave you 2 black bars on top and bottom with that ips glow to your eyes
@@fourtii8707 I hear you appreciate it
@fourtii8707 bro 99% of legion go users never use 1600p to play games. And in my opinion Lego and steam deck oled is still better than ally x
@@OleksiiK21 yeah you could argue steam deck oled has oled and better price and the os is incredible, in fact I own one for more than 6months now. But in what way is legion go better than ally x lol? does it have better battery life? is it lighter? is the screen native landscape with vrr support? does it have a better frontend app? does it have better button layout like a true xbox controller? or does it have better cooling & fan noise? or does it have more and faster ram?
Man ETA, I was hoping to see the usual racing games in your review. Since this device does very well with console emulation, rGT4 or Forza Horizon should run fully speed in performance mode. Crazy for a handheld to do that and still have more than reasonable battery life.
Great video bro. Do the battery benchmark agains Steam Deck OLED. I'm still thinking wich one to buy
If they're running at the same settings, the ally x gets like an hour more battery life over the SD oled.
It’s depends on what kinda gamer you are if u have a large steam catalog and want a console experience go with the steam deck oled and thank me later
can't wait to see a video on thoroughful emulation testing
If the original Ally can emulate incredibly well, (It does) then the Ally X can as well.
Except for PS4, everything will be super smooth on z1 extreme
@@brightya sure... But I want to see how smooth they run... Specially, PS3, Xbox 360 and the switch
A beast
Massive L for us who preordered from JB HiFi in Western Australia, came in to pick up mine today but was told that they dont have the units on hand.
Glad I waited
The analog sticks seem to be smaller than the regular ones on the PS5 and Xbox controllers. I don't like the idea of the controllers being fixed to the screen; if you have any problems with the analogs, it will be complicated to fix.
El 26 me llega esta consola. Menos mal que la reservé.
Gracias por los vídeos que haces. ❤
Que tal esta?
@@skywalker3760 pues la vdd muy bien. La recomiendo, con el único juego que tengo problemas” es con el DD2. De resto juego a unos 19W o 21W y como la batería es de 80W pues estoy jugando cerca de unas 3 horas tranquilamente.
OLED doesn't important when we have huge battery and VRR
If only oleds got vrr support
@@detectivefischer6396 OLED with VRR not happen soon since it's will increase the price if they put it
@@DanterNero I mean if it were an external solution (another company sells it and you have to install it yourself), I wouldn't mind
@@detectivefischer6396 if it popular then there will 3rd party company esp from china can offer that
For the last f###### time OLED ON A HANDHELD IS NOT A SELLING POINT look how many people bought the psvita just because it was oled, oh wait, NOBODY
waiting for Ally X Vs. Legion Go..
Honestly the next computer I buy Ill be one of these with an EGPU. Can you run VR games with a gpu?
They make a steamdeck with more power and 32gigs of ram I'm buying it, but the Ally X has got me thinking instead of a onexplayer.
Gotta put Bazzite on it
Ik ppl talk bad about the lil cardboard stands, but honestly, its better than nothing
The amount of times i have needed a stand for my deck and i have to use my phone stand all wobbly is crazy lol
At least this one stands it up firmly and if u take care of it, it shouldnt rip or break
Guess your that mani in the thumbnail shot you got after shooting the video.
You should have upped the vram a litte to see what kind of performance boost that would give the games. Realistically you dont need 16 gb for the OS especially if dont have multiple tabs and apps open at once. I would have bumped it up to 12 and then left 12 for the OS plenty for both.....
Does this means that XG mobile GPUs are not supported on the new model?
I saw that ROG Flow series is kinda discontinued from last year so this might mean the end for XG mobile 😢
he said it in the video....
Question about the Timespy results at 11:43… is that 17w,25, or plugged in 30w? I’m only getting something close to that when I’m plugged in on 30 with my Ally X.
Only after watching this I realized the Ally x reminds me of the Sega Game gear. I guess it's good progress after 30 years considering this is a portable and powerful x86 computer-dream come true for pocketable PC. As a gaming device, i feel the progress a bit sluggish.
The $800 asking price is a bit steep considering the only huge upgrade is the RAM. I guess next AMD APU and handhelds will cost more??
With lcd 7.0 screen it's just all z1 just with bigger ram.and bettery unlike steam deck oled wasn't just different ram and screen
The battery is the biggest update. If you didn’t have an issue with the OG then no need to upgrade. You don’t get meaningful changes otherwise. $900 is a bit much and adding OLED would cost more.
It's $800.
@@sonichedgehog36 depends on where you live and it’s still not worth in the US.
Removing the eGPU port shouldn't be much of an issue because the people using that port are presumably gaming plugged in just as much as using the ROG Ally for mobile gaming, it should be a safe assumption that the ROG Ally X won't see nearly as much desktop use as the v1 ROG Ally.
with eGPU GPD G1 review? How OK is the stuff with the asus amd drivers and 7600m?
Been seeing reviews on best buy that some people have been having it not turn on at all even with it plugged in someone had the right trigger completely stop working after 30 mins but mostly the bad reviews were about how the battery will not hold a charge at all or it just won't turn on so take that as you will
2:15 They should not upgrade, it's not something worth spending that much more money into a company that can't even provide proper warranty support. And it's not yet on RDNA4 or Zen5 so it's not a performance upgrade too. It's way better to buy Steam Deck Oled in this price point.
Got mine on order from best buy
when you did your fps comparison did you still have your 8gb dedicated to the gpu?
I was waiting for this test ! What kind of eGPU you would recommended for docked / couch gaming session on a 4k TV ? Thank you !
Doesn't improve game play enough to justify the investment. But talking to gamers is similar to talking to Black women, difficult...
he made a video with an eGPU that gave a huge boost to performance that used the usb c 4.0 port it was the ONEXGPU
@@dj4monie I understand but I'm specifically in the use case where a handheld and a eGpu dock can benefit for me due to the form factor and the portability. I don't mind the prince nor playing in ultra settings. I'm aware this is an investment with drawbacks, but there is no alternative for now, when you roam a lot and you don't want to carry a heavy Gaming laptop.
I'm halfway through the review but I'm going to go ahead and predict it will be another Windows handheld review without showing suspend/resume with several games.
Should be no different than a laptop.
Windows is so bad. 😊
What third party options are there out there to improve performance. You mentioned this around @13:31
I remember him using custom voltages and stuff in an older video idk which one though
2:20 hours with cyberpunk is actually really good I want one now if only that screen was OLED
I beg to differ the bigger back button is more comfortable and you can rest your fingers while holding the ally.
If you dont have one, why even speak on it? lol
No its not do you even have one? 😂
the normal ally feels like shit to hold. I have had one since it released and I never feel comfortable holding it.
@@Peraliq after having the new one, it is a understatement on how much more comfortable the ally x is, huge improvement.
How about sd card issue?
That is non existant, it was simply a bad supplier and they have since changed the supplier or they got everying figured out
Really tough to compete with steamdeck on pricing. Ally X is clearly better, but is it $150-250 better?
No one besides phaux has talked about the vram with gaming and had it set to 8gv when testing games
im waiting on a full egpu review to pull the trigger, if can hold 80-90 frames with a egpu at 1440 would be awesome!
That's kinda poop ngl just buy a desktop tbh
@@n64slayer i dont need a desktop boy! but i understand what u saying
I would love to see a test on mmorpg, such as FF14 (or Wow) , just to see how it handle battery life with this kind of games
cyberpunk high settings 1080p without any upscale and it runs over 30fps???? that's insane.
Can you test eGPU and the SD card? Since it only has 40gb bandwidth what will be the recomended gpu.
I was considering getting the Ally X but in the end, I ordered the Steam Deck Oled because of the user experience, community, and the oled screen. If I need extra juice for running triple A games, I'll stream my 4090 7800X3D pc to my deck
Its your choice then. You will miss out on lossless scaling, the best frame Gen thing to happen and you can basically run anything with 60fps or above. The steam deck only has selective games that work with fsr3 and only if the devs modded it in. Lossless scaling works with all games even emulators on the get go.
@@jackykwan2580not everyone craves fake frames, 30fps is completely acceptable for long gaming sessions without a power brick nearby. If you really wanted high fps in games, why even use a handheld? And even if you got an ally, how long would it last without a charger and with frame gen turned on? That thing consumes a lot of power.
You'll see the "user experience" on your own. There was not a day when steamOS worked without an issue. Why would you stream AAA games on small 800p OLED display where in most cases text is so small, you can barely read it? There is a community mostly just because you have to emulate Windows on Linux. That community that makes mods don't really add anything special. It's your choice.
@@martinklein2201a lot games text are readable it's just some games don't have good scaling for smaller screen with text like higher resolution screen ones leaving the 1080p text gets even smaller.
Steam deck has a massive community compared to Asus lol
Why don't you use the full 8gb of vram as the extra vram and ram added will help with performance. Compare the ROG Ally X where it should benefit the upgrade, please.
Please can you test rdr2 i want to see what kind of preformance you will get thanks big fan love your viss
Can I hook two external monitors? I plan to use this as my main comouting unit 😅
So I wanted to buy it but in Hungary Asus priced it for 1200 euro
I’ll wait for the ally 2 for the same price.
Bro has everything sponsored and never speaks bad about a product definitely not trustworthy
Including benchmarks with famegen on is a very scummy move.
Take a shot for every “arr oh jee al eye”
wait. i can finally get more than 45 min battery life? TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY