How NOT to bounce
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- čas přidán 21. 09. 2021
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When you take an abstract view, horse riding is just sitting on a massive 4-legged beach ball, and asking it to start getting bouncy when we apply our legs around it. So it’s no wonder that it takes a little while to learn how to ride the trot and canter without bouncing in the saddle. When you bounce, your horse gets tense, they put their head up, they get faster, then you bounce more, and so it continues into this negative speed spiral that you could call The Bounce Reaction! Sound familiar? Yeah I thought so! But wait! It’s ALL fixable. Firstly, if you’re just starting out, don’t worry! It WILL come, you’ve GOT this and this week’s video has a few tips that will help you lose that beach-ball feeling!
Tip 1 - Put some back into it: Get your horse round so they are using their back and top-line better. Once the back is lifted underneath you it’s much easier for you to sit on them and MUCH more comfy for the horse. If the head pops up when you try to sit the trot, post again, and sit super carefully and softly by engaging your muscles so you don’t bounce.
Tip 2. - Sitting still will not keep you from bouncing: Contrary to what you might think, in order to fix your bouncing, you need to actually move MORE! Trying to sit still will only make you bounce more. You need to move in your seat and core more than you think. You look like you’re sitting still but that’s an optical illusion. You’re flexing and following the motion of the horse. If you try to sit still, you’re resisting the movement and you horse is just carrying a human shaped cement block. You’ve got to make your body jelly! You’ve got to allow the motion in your body to absorb the motion in his.
Tip 3 - Quality over Quantity. Sit for a good time, not a long time! If you’re just learning how to sit to the trot, try this exercise. Start by just sitting for a quarter circle, then pull your tummy muscles in and bring him back to the walk. Catch your breath and repeat the cycle. You’ll start to get the feel of how to relax your muscle the right amount while naturally toning your stabilizer muscles. This exercise helps you by...
Working on strengthening your horses back and top-line
Teaching him to trust your seat and making him confident that you’re not going to bounce in the saddle every time you sit.
I don’t need to tell you how uncomfortable it is when you stiffen up and bounce in the saddle and it’s just as uncomfortable for the horse too! So have a look at this video and let me know in the comments if you find it helpful!
Thanks for watching and happy riding!!!
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Happy Riding! Let me know if you find this video helpful!!
Very much! I've found so difficult to sit the trot in bouncy horses (especially warmbloods), but it was difficult because I was so nervous that I wouldn't move with the horse, I'd just stay still and hold for my life 🤣🤣🤣
I think this is hard to explain. But....I feel that I can keep my lower back loose to absorb the movement but it seems it is just up and down. I think I am supposed to get hips to come forward a bit. Is the feeling in the hips like when I post? My pelvis comes up and forward in posting trot but I stay in saddle for sitting trot with that same feel of posting?? I will try those exercises.
@@robbinneill7030 yes, exactly. Your hips and your core should be engaged to the movement
Excellent video as usual. You break it down so perfectly. I especially liked that you show how you can tell if the horse is round by viewing the base of the neck being lifted and muscled.
Super helpful! Thank you!
Really helpful. I think so many don’t realize that it’s an optical illusion that it appears as though a skilled rider is NOT moving, yet they’re ARE moving in the right places, so it appears that they’re NOT moving!
I've had to work hard on this. One thing I have done that has helped me is long trotting up hill. It's helped my thoroughbred drive from behind and get into a steady rhythm. At the same time I work on her carrying a soft feel. As she moves smoother my timing and feel improves and I become smoother. My Morgan on the other hand, is naturally a smooth mover that makes me look like a much better rider than I really am. Haha. Thanks for the great video.
i think its a morgan thing because my morgan mare is sooo smooth but my quarter horse gelding he is another story
@@evelynvetsch5513 yeah I think you are right. I don't know why they are not more popular but they can be very independent thinkers and a little hot, but I like that too.
@@danw6014 I had a handsome 1/2 Morgan gelding, we foxhunted together for 17 years (lead the field was a field steward). Some hunts lasted 4-5 hours. Smooth as silk every stride, i thank gawd the morgan genes came through loud and clear!! Cherish every moment with your special mount!
@@juliafoley6499 I enjoy them both. I had the Morgan at a clinic in Nebraska and one of the other riders took one look at her and said "that's a horseman's horse". She is all personality, very curious and social. The thoroughbred has been fouled by people. When she give any trust you had to earn it. Very sweet with me though but very challenging helping her keep it together.
Best demonstration I have seen on the dynamics between rider and horse, reading their responses to the rider, how to correct tension, and most importantly - being kinder to your horse.
Thank you!!
Im impressd of your nice attitud. It helps me a lot, whith my riding❤️
Your best video yet!!!!! No one ever talks about the role of the horse in sitting the trot. You can’t sit a horse that is hollow and not carrying. If you could, you wouldn’t have to train him. You can’t even post comfortably on a hollow, bone jarring horse, but it was invented for the same reason. It’s better than sitting. Everything that Amelia teaches in her videos, from the training scale to rider position, to gymnastic exercises, and etc, etc is meant to teach us how to make the horse rideable. And yet I see riders of all ages and backgrounds bouncing and beating themselves up for it because they think they should be able to do it. Most horses have to be round, engaged from back to front, accept the contact and allow CONNECTION and THROUGHNESS , straightness, suppleness, impulsion and many other details to develop the comfortable balance to do what nature never intended which is to ride them. And if that isn’t enough, we ride the biggest movers in the riding community. A few are smoother than others but they don’t have the suspension and presence that are the hallmark of dressage. I have tried to explain this before but riders don’t listen because they don’t understand the theory and principles that are the foundation of horse training. But they think they do. Some will put in the time and study to gather the countless and complex details of dressage and this video (and similar ones to follow) is a gateway to that discovery.
Thank you!!! Glad to hear it is helpful!!
Thanks for explaining the prior work! Getting the horse relaxed, supple and using their back… it is probably half the job done! … and also for explaining exactly which muscles the rider to use ! You are a wonderfully talented coach Amelia! And such a big heart for your horses! ❤❤❤
Thank you so much, that is very kind of you to say.
What a good demo boy! Thanks for showing the seat absorb motion. Always enjoy these vids.
It's such a good reminder that sometimes a few quality steps is better for you and your horse than going around and around bouncing away. When I switched to a new horse with a lot more suspension, I found it helpful to just practice my sitting trot during the downward transitions at first--just a few steps of good sitting trot at a time. Now I'm working on switching between posting and sitting, just a few steps and then back to posting before it starts to go wrong haha.
Yes. Good for you! Sounds like you are on the right track!!
I really love your video!!! I am asian and it is not easy to understand English but I try to listen, listen, listen!!! Thanks for your lesson!
I really like that Amelia chooses to focus on the horse's comfort and well-being as one of the main reasons to work in your seat/body position. I've always hoped that the horses I've ridden actually enjoyed having me on their back. I think this is what I find so helpful about Amelia's approach. She always focuses on this connection between horse and rider... the "centaur" image! Creates the best kind of teamwork.
Yes very helpful and simple tips. I’m off to the barn to practice this now!
I rode with Gary Rockwell. For him it was always about quality, not quantity ! Nice to know you practice the same
So many info in your videos, thank you so much!! In this one, among all, the "fat" neck is such a precious way to understand if you still do not feel it!! So precious!! Thank you SO MUCH!!!!
Made me aware of the roundness and giving his back. Never knew the neck muscle bulging was a way to tell. Thank you.
Like your phrase "take up the motion of his back" Illuminating.
Really enjoy your tutorials. Thank you.
Gosh never knew about needing to be round for a good sitting trot always thought it was just me. Thanks Amelia.
Absolutely Katrina, don't worry, it's not just you!
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Thanks for watching and happy riding!
This is one of my favorites! You explain it so well 💖
Very helpful!! Thank you Amelia!! I have spooked to many riders previously, this is by far the best explanation I have heard of the bounce
Thank you!
Thank you Amelia. As usual you break it down to make it so simple. Your tips always help so much.
So glad to hear this!!
Extremely helpful! You communicate well on top of it. Thank you! Stay safe. 💙🐎😎
Love this, more gems for perfecting the flat. You are a GREAT trainer and explain so well. 'Good boy Jacques!' :-)
Thanks so much Jane! I love to teach so hearing that brings me joy! (and isn't Jaques SUCH a good boy!!)
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🎉very informative video! Love it. I will show to my two daughters who are learning horse back riding.
Thank you, Amelia....you always give very useful detail with your examples which really helps drive the point home clearly....thank you 🙂
Great video! Very helpful. This is something I struggle with. The best part is how to identify when your horse is round. I will definitely start working on identifying whether my horse is round. I know when he is going well I sit better, but since I don’t know how to keep him consistent, it all falls apart. I think this video just taught me how and the importance of a good seat to help my horse stay round. It is a great way to work on it, so you learn the correct feel and don’t punish your horse in the process.
Super instruction as always Amelia
This video was very helpful and I am relaxing more since trying the tips. thank you so much!
Great video, thanks!
Thank you.
Super helpful! Thank you!
Very helpful!!
Great tips!
Thank you
Very helpful.
Love ur videos and ur way of explaining. Tnx
So helpful! Great. video
Excellent advice. Thank you.
Also, your groom might deserve a raise. Jacques' tail is a wonder of the world.
Best description of this I've ever had. I tend to be stiff and bouncy and to compensate I assume a modified 2 point position letting my lower leg and ankle absorb the motion. This does help my hollow Morgans feel comfortable to round up but it's not a good long term solution. I'm very thin so have very little cushion on my butt. So I need extra flexibility through the belly. After 40 years of riding and training I'm suddenly realizing the importance of the belly when sitting the trot and the canter. I'm very sensitive to the importance of relaxation and utilization of specific muscles when training a horse to bend and be supple. But it's the same for the rider. I believe I've put too much emphasis on my lower back rather than the belly. Thank you for this great illustration. I feel bad when I ride poorly on my bouncey horses who are trying so hard to be correct.
Yay!! Glad to hear it was helpful!
Excellent video!!!!!
I've got to swing my hips more and try not to tense up!. Thank yiu so much for posting this! Really enjoyed it!
Regina Shevlin
I really enjoyed this video Amelia, thank you. I am having trouble sitting loosely to my horses trot before i ask for the canter, this gives me some suggestions to build it up whilst maintaining my looseness. I have a tendency to tighten my hip flexors & pelvis, i haven't been working on the sitting trot for this reason but with this advice I have the courage to do so!
many thanks indeed
very nice amelia always learn from your videos
Thanks for your videos. I find your demonstration and explanation is very helpful!
Oh that makes me so happy to hear. Thank you.
I like your training voice because you say things in a manner which anyone can understand
As usual, just what I needed to hear. Thanks!!!
You are so welcome!
Interesting!
Great video! Very helpful. Do you have any tips for when the movements get a bigger? Medium movements particularly in the trot and also I feel that I get left behind a bit when doing walk to canter when my boy sits and pushes into canter. Thank you 🥰
Another great video. I love the slomo section. Please can we have some slow motion on the canter as well?
Great explanation , thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome instruction, great tips.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this vlog. Extremely helpful. 💙🐎😎
You are so welcome!
Excellent video - I'm a canter bouncer and it gets really ugly. Great tips to practice.
I have gotten all kinds of advice how to ride the trot. None that was all that great. This video was a huge help. I tried it out this morning . Both keeping her neck rounded and working the core to stay in contact with the saddle
Yay!! So glad to hear this was helpful!
I love our beautiful shirt! What kind is it? Thanks for your tips!
Good video 😊 Still trying to avoid the inevitable bounce when transitioning from posting to sitting trot. Either I loosen too much and “jiggle” down or I am too rigid (to keep from bouncing!) and bounce down anyway for a few strides before being able to steady my seat. I know core strength plays a big part in that ability to keep it smooth thru transitions. A never ending fitness goal!
I have the same exact thing. And with my horse being a trotter with a large stride it is quite difficult. More muscle and flexibility needed badly xD
my horse, a lipizzan gelding is very hard sitting on because he has very large pattern. so my first years with him I ride very much on a pad for learning how to take up his moves in my body. I've took a lot of tips from hempfling, who just say yo relax in your hips and body and when you van feel your hips follow your moves when you just sit and relax you really become one with your horse. Another tip for how to come there you must have really long relaxed legs (just let them hang) do not sit on your bump and lean backwards, instead you should let your shoulders relax, and lean just a bit forward, (that is for so you can youse your core muscle) and absorbe the movements up to your core instead of your back. believe me this really works and has helped me a lot! nowadays when I ride I pretty much like to ride on the pad more than the saddle, because its more easy just to put on. I can ride in any speed and I do feel like equally safe as I'm using the saddle.
this does not work though when I have a sore back, then I do not ride on the pad just because its impossible to just relax your hole body if your stiff in your muscles or have any pain. it is just bad for you and your horse!
I hope my tips are useful! Godd luck 😉
Thanks so much for sharing Jenny! It sounds like you and your horse have really connected
This is a great video and am excited to do the exercises. Amelia do you ever do clinics in the Napa Sonoma area? Thank you!
Very cool and nteresting!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Hi Amelia, thanks for this great video! One question in your first point about having the horses neck forwarding down slightly, my horse is a little lazy, and I find it until I give him forward it’s very difficult to my dad. Do you have any suggestions?
Hi Amelia thank you for today's tips, this has really helped me as I bounce in my Molly's canter as it is a big stride. I am sorry I missed enrolment for your master class I would of loved to have joined. My husband was having a hip replacement. I do hope it goes well and I hope I can join next time. Amanda
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Ohhhh I feel like I've got so many questions...... will have to watch again and take notes ...😱🤔🤔🤔🤔 what can you recommend for opening up my hip flexors.... I know I don't do that and I don't know why.... &&& thank you for this....
good tips
Thanks so much for watching Mary and thanks for the feedback!!
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I’m sadly don’t ride often and I’m still a beginner but I’ll try to keep your tips in mind :) thank you for the video!
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Good morning from Canada.
Yes, good video. I bounce a bit when transitioning down.
I'm a new subscriber, hello. Wow, you are amazing. Thank you 💖 for your advice. What impressed me the most was your absolute ability to stay connected with the signals of your horse. As a rider, you were beautiful to watch ~ skill and empathy ❤️ for an enjoyable experience between horse and rider. I'm jealous, to be honest. You were absolutely perfect. You just made my day, thanks 💕 😊
Thanks Amelia. Quality over quantity is my take away. My horse and I have found the trust you talk about for nice sitting trot with him lifting and swinging his back and I can absorb the motion pretty well now. Feels great. But any tips for helping us to find that feel in the downward canter transition? He’s now doing more balanced trot canter transition but hollowing his back and lifting his head in canter-trot. Only way I can avoid bouncing then is to post a few steps. Any tips appreciated.
Hi Barb,
This canter trot transition video should help you master the downward canter-trot transition! Let me know if it helps!
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Love these videos, super helpful. Do you have any tips for a double curve scoliosis? I find it tricky to absorb the movement through my back!
I don't have any top of mind, but Stephanie from @advancedphysio might!
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thank you so much 👍
So good~^^
I ride a thoroughbred sometimes, he has a big bouncy trot and my trainer sometimes tells me to drop my stirrups and I feel bade for him because I get tense even when I try not to. Whenever he trots it hurts my legs so I try to slow the trot just a litte
For me personally it really depends on the horse I ride, there is one on that I can make the perfect canter and there is another on that I can't stop bouncing...I know horses are all different but it just distracts me sometimes 🤷♀️
Yep..am too tense but I want what my instructor and you have soo bad...so it translates into tension
keep working at it! It's a lifelong journey!
Jacques is becoming quite the celebrity. He's in so many videos. Clearly he needs an instagram page. :)
Thank you for the video very helpful. So are you saying your hips are moving like a rocking chair in the saddle? I'm really trying to get it.
Move with the motion of the horse. Feel connected to them.
I've been watching your videos and find them very helpful. I'm a pony trainer living on Vancouver Island, Canada and have moved from hunters to dressage. I'm currently taking clinics from Henk Glijn, a Dutch master. I'm riding an 8yr. old Welsh/Warmblood 14.11/2h gelding, athletic and sensitive and I have difficulty sitting his trot. I'm following your instruction but having little effect. What more can I do but practise, practise? Thank you!
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I was
What does contact have to do with being able to balance yourself in the saddle in the sitting trot?
Hi Joan,
Maintaining a steady contact keeps the connection going between you and the horse. Without contact and connection, it is hard to control and maneuver your horse, and if you have a steady contact and good connection, your horse is probably round, which makes it easier to sit in the saddle! Hope that helps.
❤
Thank you so much Amelia, this is very useful, but since your horse is of a dark colour, your saddle is also dark colour, and so are the the bridges you are wearing, it makes it more difficult for the viewer to really appreciate the movement forward of your hips. I believe it would be much better if you were wearing white, or beige bridges to better appreciate the contrast. Very many thanks.
Pablo Santa María
Im such a terrible rider I need to really look and listen to this. Its very hard on my own though. Im old to learn how to ride, and I look too okay doing it so everyone I ride with hasnt noticed(even when I outright asks about how to do things because I know Im doing it wrong)
You're never too old to learn to ride! Keep going, it's all about the journey, not the destination. :)
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thank-you ,, 42 years old in a month and just starting lessons , and man do i feel bouncy ,,, too many things going on in my head at the same time, reins, am i losing my stirrup, oh i need to relax oh wait i am losing my stirup ?? :) i will get there
My main take away is the lowering the head and i can see the movement but doing is is a whole other story 😭
How do we keep the horse from tucking it's nose too much?
This video will help! czcams.com/video/roD6Q7qY2Qc/video.html
it's really great that you show us what to do but 2 or 3 strides is more than enough of a doing it wrong demo. i feel bad for your horse too. tbh even talking us through how it works when you do it wrong is fine. i don't think i'd ride me horse wrong liek that as, like you said, it's just not pleasant for them to have to tolerate unnecessarily. i enjoy learning from your tips and your good example is enough :D
Any tips for beginner rider over age 50?
Absolutely Lisa! I have over 400 videos on my CZcams and MANY of my followers are your age or older. I'm also hosting a FREE webinar on Rider Position and Biomechanics on June 5th. I'd love to see you there.
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How do i get my horses back rounded?
Check out this video: czcams.com/video/5GVY6sZ2264/video.html And it's important to remember that roundness comes from systematic use of the training scale. Have you seen the free replay of my most recent webinar? amelianewcombdressage.com/training-scale-webinar-replay/
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thanks! Not yet. On my To Do List. 🥰
Hi Amelia. Can you describe exactly how your hips are moving at the sitting trot? Side to side? Front to back? In a circular motion? All three? 😅
Great question - check out this video for an in depth explanation: czcams.com/video/peBCRYQAVFM/video.html
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thanks for the reply. A bit too technical for me. Guess I'm a hopeless cause.
Hi. Is posting just sitting?
no, posting is lifting off.
You will definitely know when the back is lifted. You thighs will be spread open by the lift and it will feel like you are riding a wave.
It's such a fine balance though sometimes to sit deeply to really move with the motion...but still raise your upper body to dressage balance, lightness and position. It feels great until I look at a video. :/
Keep it up Robyn, and also having mirrors is a game changer for your position.
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This is South Korea.
Please set up subtitles.
I really feel bad for my horse it's been 2days I'm learning rising trot and it's tiring for me and i feel how bad it's for horse having me bouncing there but I feel that he knows that I'm a novice and he forgives me.😢
Riding is a lifelong journey, we all started where you are!
i always bounce
All the time. I will not sit the trot because I feel sorry for my poor Marimba .
"Having total flexibility through your hips and through your body"....... does not teach you how to not bounce in the saddle when the horses cantering ..and on none of these videos did any of the women ever really teach us how to not bounce by pressing down on our feet harder into the stirrup or anything concrete like that..
I'm a new subscriber, hello. Wow, you are amazing. Thank you 💖 for your advice. What impressed me the most was your absolute ability to stay connected with the signals of your horse. As a rider, you were beautiful to watch ~ skill and empathy ❤️ for an enjoyable experience between horse and rider. I'm jealous, to be honest. You were absolutely perfect. You just made my day, thanks 💕 😊
Glad you like the videos!