Visiting a REAL Analog Studio | Flux Magnetic Studios' BIG 1970s 16-track, 2-inch MCI JH-16

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 24. 07. 2024
  • Today we visit Flux Magnetic Studios in Greenpoint, Brooklyn where their main tracking machine is the 1970s MCI JH-16, which records 16 tracks on 2-inch tape. I've never seen 2-inch tape before this. It's big. Go record some music at:
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Komentáƙe • 68

  • @4wheelwarrior
    @4wheelwarrior Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    MAN .. that is some SEXY equipment. I had no idea the 24 track was also the genesis of finnicky noise reduction also. Fascinating. Thanks a Million for posting this!

  • @Bernz66
    @Bernz66 Pƙed rokem +1

    Miss working with tape
.. used to work in a studio that had two 24 track 2 inch tape machine

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 Pƙed rokem +1

    I love Tape...but I like my Clean Analog Gear and Carity of the Digital in the DAW...mixed with it....but this is Awesome!!!

  • @nym053
    @nym053 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Funny that it's actually called threading. First time I did it with the home recording reel to reel I once had, I was thinking that this is like threading a sewing machine, so I started calling it threading myself. But now I learned that it's actually what it's called. Makes sense.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      language is full of these fun little things, but it’s too early for me to remember another one right now 😂
      thanks for watching 🙏

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 Pƙed rokem +1

    I have been using Acustia Audio Tape on Mix and Masterbus
    Apex, MCI 24 Track Tape and Studer 820 Reel to Reel
    And Nebula ATR (ATR 1200 and Apex Tape Collection, Nebula Mojo and Colors Pres Colors and Saturation) and Im loving using REAL analog sampled tape plugins for my Mixing and Mastering....it makes a really huge Difference gives a very nice warmth and glue....a must on Mix and Master Bus

  • @chuckschaible5410
    @chuckschaible5410 Pƙed rokem +2

    OH, HELL YES!!! BRINGS ME BACK good Old 1980's & 1990's... RECORDING SONGS ON THESE FORMATS, SPINNING THE 2" MASTER TAPES AT 30 IPS WITH NO NOISE REDUCTION... AMAZING TIMELESS AND MIND BLOWING SOUNDS!!! IT'S ALL GOOD, ANALOG, DIGITAL, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S NEXT???...

    • @chuckschaible5410
      @chuckschaible5410 Pƙed rokem

      I ALWAYS HATED THE SOUND OF DBX NOISE REDUCTION...COLORS THE SOUNDS TOO MUCH, FUCKS WITH ENGINEERING, PLAYBACK, AND MIXING WAY TOO MUCH FUCKS WITH ENGINEERING MIXING AND MASTERING...DOLBY WAS BETTER, I STILL HATE THE SOUNDS OF THAT SHIT IT'S FIDDLEY UNPREDICTABLE AND UNDEPENDABLE NATURE...GOOD IN CONCEPT,.SHIT IN PRACTICE

  • @mtchampion1831
    @mtchampion1831 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Calibration is very quick and easy. My Tascam MS-16 takes 20 minutes tops. Rarely do I change tape type as I haven't to date owning it. Ampex 456 only at this point. I will add that learning the skill of proper maintenance is a good thing. It imparts a level of confidence in the equipment's performance, allows a professional session to occur for the client and creates a mindset in the engineer of professionalism that pays it forward to everything they do. People that take care of their equipment, take care of their clients. This is true in any business. My two cents.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      valuable two cents! thanks for sharing 🙏 those MS-16s are cool!

    • @thomashorrock7221
      @thomashorrock7221 Pƙed rokem +1

      Same, always took like 15-20min to calibrate
      Maybe he’s taking into account changing the tape formula or maybe even head alignment? But 45min sounds high
      I’ve had 2 MS-16s and I loved calibrating them and keeping them running properly, super easy and nothing more gratifying than seeing 0VU in Sync, Repro, Record mode
      Miss those machines.. and the MRL tape guy lol

  • @michatroschka
    @michatroschka Pƙed 2 lety +2

    great!! those guys are such a cool gang, whish i could also hang out with them. their song was very nice, felt good coming from the tape

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      thanks for listening! they are cool dudes!!!

  • @NorthAnchor
    @NorthAnchor Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Another great video! Thank you!

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      thanks for watching! much appreciated 🙏

  • @robertledet
    @robertledet Pƙed 2 lety +2

    wow, calibrating before every session sounds frustrating! and here I am, having never calibrated my tape machines lol.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +3

      hahaha well it's mostly for when you put a new type of reel on...otherwise you're just spot checking everything.
      No need to calibrate Portastudios lol! (i don't actually think you can)

  • @kylegushue
    @kylegushue Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Fun episode. Still have some Regan Youth stuff, on cassette! Been enjoying this channel.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      thanks for sharing! i wasn’t hip to Reagan Youth but I love the music. gotta be great on cassette đŸ€˜

  • @bob4analog
    @bob4analog Pƙed rokem +2

    11:09 We had this problem quite often. Patchbay contact problems do happen, especially with patch cables that use different metals, such as nickle and bronze. This is due to 'galvanic corrosion.' Changing out the patch cables with same metal type plugs as jack field usually mitigates this problem.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed rokem +1

      that's excellent insight thank you!

  • @thomashorrock7221
    @thomashorrock7221 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great video!
    I just found your channel and am really digging the way you promote tape.. not better, not worse.. just different, it’s art so there is no right answer
    And you’re right, this is a great time bc we have access to both
    To me, the selling points with tape isn’t even sonically(although it does glue nicely), it’s about how immersive and personal the process is. I work better with limitations so I get more done because I have to commit
    Keep up the great work!

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed rokem

      hey that means so much to me sincerely: you understand what i’m espousing đŸ™đŸ»đŸ™ŒđŸ»

  • @elijahderinger7080
    @elijahderinger7080 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    I just found a TEAC A-2340R for free from my college, working perfectly, this channel is the best thing I've found yet. Great for even getting a hang of the basics. your tape delay tutorial is next on my list, as soon as i get a mixer. any small mixers you recommend?

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      nice score!!! There are tons of great cheap modern mixers these days, even a Mackie like this one linked below. If you're looking for a number of features, the TASCAM Model 12 is cool, but it's also a recorder, not just a mixer. I can also recommend the 1970s Yamaha EM-80 or EM-100 or EM-150... they are heavy but sound awesome and have a built in Spring reverb tank that sounds VERY cool. thanks for watching!
      bit.ly/3lMWU2v

  • @countryskystudio
    @countryskystudio Pƙed 2 lety +4

    Great Stuff & I LOVE your philosophy of Analog vs Digital, and that it is all art - you are so correct that too often, folks get caught up on which is better than the other, when what REALLY matters, is the music, the song. A great song, no matter how it was recorded is a great song / A crappy song, no matter how it was recorded will always be a crappy song.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      💯
      i bet i could sell a Stevie Wonder phone recording!
      thanks for picking up on the message!

  • @SeriousGear
    @SeriousGear Pƙed 2 lety +1

    "Humans live together". Great phrase.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      why does your channel name sound familiar?

  • @bob4analog
    @bob4analog Pƙed rokem +2

    11:57 Very true! Digital dedefinitely has its issues like he said. Also, Both analog and digital can have cabling issues. Digital isn't a cure-all.

  • @TheDonnyRiedel
    @TheDonnyRiedel Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great viddddd

  • @WorldCitizen667
    @WorldCitizen667 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Victor!!! Man it has been a loooooooong time! I was on tour with the Coffin Daggers in Europe (as their driver/tourmanager) about 2006-ish? Fun times!

  • @MrmelodyUs
    @MrmelodyUs Pƙed 2 lety +2

    #FLUXMAGNETIC is looking for a new home!!!

  • @bobsbits5357
    @bobsbits5357 Pƙed rokem +1

    hi i will say you and them are right about the parts side i have alot of deck love the uk soundchaft as i can get parts for them
    love the brenel mini 8 decks just done alot of work on one best to keep away from decks as they need a hell of alot of work
    on them my teac 8516 needed alot of work i have alot of decks 12 about i work on them all soundcraft 381 great for gig's
    go in the back of a car there was a 2 inch that was a 600 never got of the ground i have one
    i used to know people in the past

  • @ricco8755
    @ricco8755 Pƙed rokem +1

    It's like an apple dipped in caramel

  • @travisraab
    @travisraab Pƙed 2 lety +1

    That's a lotta machine

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      werd, and that’s coming from a man with a 388!

  • @JoshuaPickenpaugh
    @JoshuaPickenpaugh Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Hey Chris, the part of the tape machine where you can cut the tape with a razor (not sure what it's called, the splice guide?), what are the three differently angled cut lines for? Is it for varying "levels" of fade?

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +2

      splice block, usually. i’m not expert in splicing but i know that they are used for varying scenarios, like
      leader tape is at the almost 90 degree angle
      sharper angles were for edits, but i heard that if it’s too sharp you can get a “flash” edit on a stereo track, where the image gets weird for a moment.
      that’s an art i would have to spend time with someone who knows what they’re doing to learn! great question

    • @mtchampion1831
      @mtchampion1831 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Vertical for a hard, instantaneous sound cut, or diagonal for a soft, more oblique cut. Hope that helps.

    • @JoshuaPickenpaugh
      @JoshuaPickenpaugh Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@mtchampion1831 Yes it does! Thanks! :)

    • @JoshuaPickenpaugh
      @JoshuaPickenpaugh Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@MadeOnTape Maybe that can be one of your next vids: the art of physically editing tape. I've seen it done, when I used to work at a radio station back in college, but I always worked "in the box".

  • @chuckschaible5410
    @chuckschaible5410 Pƙed rokem +2

    Problems WITH Old analog systems: MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT PARTS COSTS!!! JUST SHOOT ME NOW!!!

  • @ramil90
    @ramil90 Pƙed rokem +1

    Bee Gees has the MCI JH24

  • @Bernz66
    @Bernz66 Pƙed rokem +1

    That’s why my Tascam Porta One always sounded better than my Tascam 688 MK II

  • @RiotHomeRecording
    @RiotHomeRecording Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Just a heads up, JH-16 does not mean it’s a 16 track. Just like the JH-24 does not mean it’s a 24 track. These are just models numbers for the era of the machine. The JH-16 =1970’s and the JH-24 = 1980’s. Either machine can be 8, 16, 24 tracks. There’s also different era transports for these machines. Mine is a 24 track 2 inch JH-24 with the JH-114 transport. From 1983. Lots of people think the JH-16 means it’s a 16 track and the JH-24 means it’s a 24 track and that’s just wrong.
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      thanks for clarifying and watching!

    • @RiotHomeRecording
      @RiotHomeRecording Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@MadeOnTape
      Thanks here’s one of my videos you can check out.
      czcams.com/video/Sqz5YaHx26g/video.html

  • @swsuwave
    @swsuwave Pƙed rokem +1

    3 words: 32 bit float.

  • @steelcantuna
    @steelcantuna Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Now (like other studio's)they just need to find some band(s), music, or someone, worth listening to!!!!!!!! Rock-n-Roll laid down on it's deathbed in the late 1970's & died a slow & painful death. It was sent home on hospice to die during the late 70's & early 80's. You dig man, daddy-o, dude?

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      hey michael, the beautiful thing about music you don’t think is worth listening to: YOU don’t have to listen.
      ✌
      the world doesn’t care what you like or don’t like, and that’s a beautiful thing

  • @zonarecordingstudio
    @zonarecordingstudio Pƙed rokem +1

    Back to 1979

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed rokem

      they're building a brand new space and it's gonna be sweet!

  • @NME_REK
    @NME_REK Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +1

    Killer

  • @samuelandrade3117
    @samuelandrade3117 Pƙed rokem +1

    O highly recomend the Lisciel Franco Channel on CZcams tube, and his All Analog Studio Forest Lab, from Brasil.
    Its amazing. No computers, 100% purĂȘ Analog recordings. He build his own equipaments as well, tube preamps, tube compressors, mixing board...
    You guys shoud see, Lisciel Franco.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed rokem +1

      LOVE Lisciel ... anyone reading this should also follow him on IG. He's a legend and builds some amazing gear as well. thanks for posting!

    • @samuelandrade3117
      @samuelandrade3117 Pƙed rokem +1

      Here in Brasil we say: Ele Ă© foda pra caralho!!!! 😂😂

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed rokem +1

      @@samuelandrade3117 had to google translate and lol

    • @samuelandrade3117
      @samuelandrade3117 Pƙed rokem

      Hsuhshshhshaa😂😂😂😂

  • @RyanSommer
    @RyanSommer Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Sorry did you say these guys are Russian spies and in a punk band?

  • @oinkooink
    @oinkooink Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Socialist? Come on man.

    • @MadeOnTape
      @MadeOnTape  Pƙed 2 lety

      i’m sorry i don’t know what you’re referring to. thank you for watching! 🙏