"The Quran Says Jesus Is God"
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Anyone who knows a little Arabic knows that this is not the case in the ayah. والمسح is in the mansoob form (meaning: it has َ ), and الله which just comes Just before it is in the majroor form (meaning: it has ِ ) and so the correct translation is: "They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah)
Sam Shampoo and David Wood translated this verse according to their believe in the bible and people believe that
@@quranicverses.2394Sam shampoo 😭
@@quranicverses.2394sam shampoo ☠️
@@cartiace6522😂😂😂
@@Ibn-bin-ilah999because ahad and waheed clearly means three and multiple 😅😅 just like how the english “one” and “only/alone” obviously mean three and multiple😅😅
Wow that got to be one of the worst arguements I've heard.
Yeah I debunked it almost as soon as I heard him reading the verse, مِّن دُونِ doesn't mean instead of, it means without, so if his argument is that the verse is saying they take rabbis and priests as gods instead of Allah and Jesus (astarfirullah) it would be a wrong claim because the word literally means something else, the verse is basically saying without the guidance of Allah swt and Isa, and Hamza also explains it pretty well Ma'Sha'Allah that it says they take priests and rabbis as gods without Allah *and* Jesus son of Mary and they were not commanded but to worship one god, as the verse goes on.
As a Muslim and an Arabic person who knows my Arabic language very well, I say that his argument can only be used against a 6-year-old child.
I'm glad that you all caught him and cornered him and I loved the English example Hamza gave him to make things simple for the audience.
In the Quran, there are other similar examples used when Allah use the ( و ) in the middle of the Ayah like what you read in Surah Al-Baqarah
2:127
وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرَٰهِـۧمُ ٱلْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ ٱلْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمَـٰعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّآ ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلْعَلِيمُ ١٢٧
And ˹remember˺ when Abraham raised the foundation of the House with Ishmael, ˹both praying,˺ “Our Lord! Accept ˹this˺ from us. You are indeed the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
- Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran
In the translation, the word (with) is (و or and if letterly translated) and it is an Arabic way of speaking that is known and accepted by any Arabic person unlike this caller who is an imposter claiming to be an Arabic
I know how to read and write Arabic but I want to speak it fluently . What's the best app?
That's good example from the Quran, and If I translated that verse
as he did, Ishmael wouldn't raise the temple with Abraham because Ishmael himself was raised with the temple by Abraham!
Learn the basics of the language to be able to start simple conversation by using learning application at home, after that start talking to native and you'll become fluent in Arabic InSha Allah :)
in surat Al-Tawba there is also two cases examples like this..verse 94 and verse 105..also the famous verse in surat Al Baqara (2:285) where it says 'wal mu'minun' (and/ as well as the believers) after saying 'amana al rassulu bima unzila ilayhi min rabbihi' (The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord)..and MANY other examples..like 2:210 and 24:50 and 3:18.. let's take this simple example..if we were to use his same illiterate type of anti-Arabic translation of verse 18 of surat Aal-i-Imran which is about pure monotheism we would conclude that all of the angels and the people of knowledge are all Gods even though the same verse was meant to say that Allah bears witness that there is no God except HIM, and the angles and the people of knowledge also bear witness. it's very basic stuff.;the dude is just trying to confuse people who don't know Arabic..this is how missionaries do their business in Africa..deception is their motto..learning Arabic is a must for every muslim if able.
Salam, I don't know an app that can help you in my mind (maybe someone else can help you) sorry @@hasnaaabdul-kabeer8210
Christians who force the trinity to be applied in Jewish and Muslim books are embarrassing.
No what's embarrassing is more and more practicing Jewish old testament scholars who are now admitting the old testament does show God's nature is triune while him Still being one in his essence . I challenge you to google practicing Jewish old testament scholar " Dr Benjamin D Sommer, on the trinity in the old testament".?? Then I'll show you tons of Jewish old testament scholars who become Christian after studying the old testament not the new testament ??
See what's embarrassing is when Muslims see for the first time after we've shown them they've been lied to by Muslims like Hamza.
@@MartinRamsbottom-is2blYour fakies are all everywhere there is nothing can be done your beliefs are can be broken but not Muslims keep going 😮
@@MartinRamsbottom-is2bl
The Old testament does not show the Trinity, though in some places it does emphasize the plurality of God, but that doesn’t mean God is a trinity. For example, it says ‘Let us make man in our image’ but according to scholars it is said that it is referring to a Jewish thing known as ‘The divine council’ and I think 2 kings even mentions it explicitly. Now, what about all the other places where God is presented as a lonely figure? Your argument about Jewish scholars can be thrown back as well, there are many Christian scholars who themselves have said the Trinity is not biblical (neither Old or new). The issue is, you are able to read the Trinity into the Old Testament because the Old Testament is considered to be speaking in one voice by you, but it isn’t. For example, the authors who show Yahweh to be ‘The God alone’ never thought about a being like ‘Wisdom’ being with God in the beginning. That’s something that was developed overtime.
@@theactualuser
To start, how about explaining the Shekinah Glory of GOD Who rested upon certain prophets and holy men? Was that God or not? We refer to the Manifest Presence of GOD on earth the Holy Spirit.
After that, read Genesis 16, paying attention to the changes from *"AN angel of the Lord"* to *"THE angel of the Lord"* to *"And she called THE NAME OF THE LORD WHO HAD SPOKEN TO HER, "YOU ARE THE GOD OF SEEING..."*
7And *an angel of the Lord* found her by a water fountain in the desert, by the fountain on the road to Shur.
8 And he said, "Hagar, Sarai's servant, where are you coming from, and where are you going to?" And she said, "From before Sarai my mistress, I am fleeing."
9 *And the angel of the Lord said to her,* "Return to your mistress, and allow yourself to be afflicted under her hands."
10 *And the angel of the Lord said to her,* "I will greatly multiply your seed, and it will not be counted for abundance." :
11And *the angel of the Lord said to her,* "Behold, you will conceive and bear a son, and you shall name him Ishmael, for the Lord has heard your affliction.
12And he will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be upon all, and everyone's hand upon him, and before all his brothers he will dwell."
13 *And she called the name of the Lord, Who had spoken to her, "You are the God of seeing," because she said, "Have I seen [him] here also after I have seen?"*
@@theactualuserSorry I am not educated on this topic but can't "Let *us* make man in *our* image." be just plural of royalty?
This Christian guy he does not know Arabic grammar , or he try mislead hamza and others because they are not Arabic , the verse is very clear for those who know Arabic grammar .the verses says they took Their Ahbar , monks , and Jesus , as Gods beside Allah
Poor thing. Ive been learning how to read Arabic and I read that verse no problem but the poor arab isnt even able to grasp basic arabic due to his kufr
no he understands the verse perfectly, he is just trying to twist its meaning to suit his warped narrative. He is hoping the Quran will make his fictional book more relevant.
He is applying his bias and trying to twist the meaning to fit his ideology.
Agree, his arrogance is preventing him from accepting what he is reading.
Allah mentioned them in Surat Al-Jumma
﴿مَثَلُ الَّذينَ حُمِّلُوا التَّوراةَ ثُمَّ لَم يَحمِلوها كَمَثَلِ الحِمارِ يَحمِلُ أَسفارًا بِئسَ مَثَلُ القَومِ الَّذينَ كَذَّبوا بِآياتِ اللَّهِ وَاللَّهُ لا يَهدِي القَومَ الظّالِمينَ﴾ [الجمعة: ٥]
English (Saheeh):
(5) The example of those who were entrusted with the Torah and then did not take it on[1687] is like that of a donkey who carries volumes [of books].[1688] Wretched is the example of the people who deny the signs of Allāh. And Allāh does not guide the wrongdoing people.
[1687]- i.e., neglected their responsibility towards it by not putting its teachings into practice.
[1688]- But does not benefit from their contents.
So Allah compared them to Donkeys that carry books and don't know what is in it.
@@syence_nird
@@syence_nird the fact that "muslims" are denying that the dude understands the verse, is mindblowing. guys you are keeping people away from islam this way. be sincere.
@@syence_nirdNaaah he completely misunderstood it. This guy will not be able to read any dated text, let alone the Quran.
I met a Christian Arab from Egypt at work and after introducing ourselves, he told me to ask him anything about Islam that he will teach me. I just laughed it off but I kept on wondering how arrogant he was. Why does he think he knows Islam simply because he is a native Arabic speaker.
Copts are some of the worst christian’s out there
actually I find this strange of him 🤔, If I want to know about Christianity I won't ask a Muslim (despite I am Muslim myself) I would ask a Christian, why a christian want you to ask him about Islam ? Maybe he wants to show off about his "big knowledge" ?
You literally just made that up 😂
Jesus is not god in Islam or Quran, enough with the mental gymnastics because it’s embarrassing
Isa of Koran is not Jesus of the Bible. Even Allah is not Bible God. Koran is more like Satan conterfeit obviously.
Exactly
Allah is not god confused Mary as part of Trinity in Koran. Embarassing fake god of Mohammad.
To the Christians: We Muslims will never accept to worship false gods, whether Jesus or others, because Allah (God) described Himself as The One Only True God without any partner, we will never share your shirk with us, and we will not accept it !!
@@oolalamme2698 embarrassing
@@DrGibbby you say that because muslims are ignorant
@@oolalamme2698i might be wrong but im pretty sure Muhammed was never told his name and only found out once he read it in the Quran. If im wrong someone correct me
@@oolalamme2698
[Say, "(O Muhammad) whoever is an enemy of Jibril (Gabriel) - it is he who has brought it (the Qur'an) down upon your heart (O Muhammad) by Allah's permission confirming what came before it, and a guidance and glad tidings for the believers].
Qur'an (2:97)
@@oolalamme2698Funny you say any deity is satan… but when we look at your deity… you worship creation and not the creator! Wise up! The Bible today is a joke and you guys can’t fathom the truth
as a native Arab speaker, the fact that the word "masi'ha" has a fat'ha which is in the state of mansoob, makes it evident that Allah swt meant also they have taken al masi'h as lords. I really don't understand what was his argument about.
so it means they have taken thier rabbis and scholars as lords as well as they have taken al masi'h as lord. it is simple.
He’s a modern Arab who never studied nahuw
It’s MasihA and not Masihi because it’s tying it back to ahbarA-hum and ruhbanA-hum
Which shows they are part of the same group
Remember brothers and sisters, just because someone claims he/she's "arab" doesn't mean they actually know the language. And this video can serve as a reminder that we should all learn the arabic language properly.
The translation is 100% correct
This can literally be refuted by elementary Arabic grammar students. The gall of him to blatantly lie about this, considering how well he read the verse in Arabic, baffles me.
such liars, makes make so frustrated that they lie and deceive so much
This Arab needs to be taken back to primary school to learn the basics of Arabic grammar.
Yes.i am agree with you
He also needs to know the rules of English if he's reading the translation.
Jesus being added is part of the people/humans listed,
"there rabbis and priests", includes "Jesus" on the list.
I don't speak/read Arabic but have knowledge of the English language so it's easy enough for me to understand.
Added to the other verses, it's clear Jesus is not God.
For real 😭😭😭😭😭
الرجل مخطيء في قوله ان كلمة المسيح يجب ان تكون بالكسرة لان المسيح هنا منصوب بقعل اتخذوا و هو مفعول به لذلك هو منصوب. و هذا ما جاء في الآية.
هو قام بتحريفها ثم فهمها غلط.
youtube the Investigating Islam with Dr. Jay Smith and he debunks all muslims with there 26 different qurans ands none are the same lol ffs
بارك الله فيكم
(اتَّخَذُوا أَحْبارَهُمْ وَرُهْبانَهُمْ أَرْباباً مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ) اتخذوا فعل وفاعل وأحبارهم مفعول به ورهبانهم عطف على أحبارهم وأربابا مفعول به ثان ومن دون الله صفة لأربابا والمسيح عطف على أحبارهم والمفعول الثاني بالنسبة إليه محذوف أي ربا وابن صفة للمسيح أو بدل منه وثبتت الألف فيه لأنه صفة بين علمين والمسيح لقب واللقب من أقسام العلم.
- كتاب اعراب القران وبيانه.
youtube the Investigating Islam with Dr. Jay Smith and he debunks all muslims with there 26 different qurans ands none are the same lol ffs
@@londonscene7508 Gay Smith. You misspelled.
Now you understand what kind of logic they use to understand the bible. Its like they are reading into it things which are not there..
youtube the Investigating Islam with Dr. Jay Smith and he debunks all muslims with there 26 different qurans ands none are the same lol ffs
@@londonscene7508 Bro you don't even know the difference between " there" and their ? How you gonna know the difference between Translations and versions ? Let me break it down for you. There is many different translations in the many different languages of the original Quran in Arabic, While there are many different versions of the Bible from the many different thousands of manuscripts and no two are identical. A translation is a choice of words that does not change the meaning . A version is a different book like the bible with many contradictions and different meanings from one bible to another. That is why you have versions of the bible and have translations of the Quran.
جزاكم الله خيرا
Farid Has Addressed This Thing
The Translation is fine however the Grammar of the Arabic Quran is powerful that's why commoners with their simple shallow understanding can misunderstood it.
The reason the Messiah is mentioned afterward because it's worst and most hideous than others that's the reason for the delay.
they are literally saying Jesus is god but they don't say our Pope is god however they treat him as god in manner of Laws.
And That's why guys If you want to read the Quran in Arabic, You must study the Arabic Grammar(الإعراب) first .
اتَّخَذُوا أَحْبارَهُمْ وَرُهْبانَهُمْ أَرْباباً مِنْ دُونِ اللَّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَما أُمِرُوا إِلاَّ لِيَعْبُدُوا إِلهاً واحِداً لا إِلهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ سُبْحانَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ (31)}.
عندما تأتي وتعرب كلمة "المسي*حَ*"(Messiah)ستجدها منصوبة
بالفتحة فوق*( حَ)*
When you parse the word “Messiah,” you will find it in the accusative case
إذا هي معطوف على "أَحْبارَهُمْ" و ليست معطوفة على اللَّهِ لأن اللَّهِ مضاف إليه مجرور بالكسرة و كلمة وَالْمَسِيحَ منصوبة ليست مجرورة لأنها كُتبت هكذا "الْمَسِيحَ" و ليس هكذا "الْمَسِيحِ".
هذا يسمى تقديم و تأخير في اللغة العربية
This is called advancing and delaying sentences and words in Arabic
فا أصل الآية الكريمة
" و اتخذوا احبارهم و رهبانهم و المسيح ابن مريم اربابا من دون الله و ما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا الها واحدا "
"And they took their rabbis and monks and the Messiah, the son of Mary, as lords other than God, and they were commanded only to worship one God.”
And the Qur’an(in Arabic )is full of verses like these (containing advance and delay).
الاحبار والرهبان والمسيح كلهم منصوب
Nowhere in the entire Bible does Jesus himself say he is god, worship him but the Quran says Jesus is god... Deception in Christianity is different level
Deception is on another level
He just watches Christian Prince, and he think he knows something 😂
Not really Arab Christians have better apologists than CP that dude is bottom barrel arguments
Yes that's why Hamza never dared to call him . And Saheeh international actually translate it somewhat correctly cause in Arabic it does say that 😂
Read by yourself
@@motivationking9846Hamster would get rinsed by the Christian prince
@@mazzgoldie9149CP the most cowardly and buttom barrel apologist
Lol if hes ur hero ur whole cause is weak af
@@mazzgoldie9149 lol farid respons already destroyed him hamza doesnt need to
Christians never stop to amaze me, they are hilarious, they cannot even find any proof in the Bible that Jesus is God, yet the try to find it in The Quran
Exactly😆, I noticed this is the same method all the astray religions do (Christians, Shia, not sure about Jewish since I did not witness any debate with them)
How about this. 😂 From qur an Allah said He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), and from the bible Jesus said . I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
You ddnt know bcuz you are not reading😂
@@mohammedalbatati5529bro try to debate a born again christian😂 you will cry, im sure😂
More like the cry of Sorrow on them trying to defend three gods in one similar to shampoo ads 🤣
@@JILGM
On the same argument, Allah Almighty in the Quran said:
Fussilat 41:47
(With Him ˹alone˺ is the knowledge of the Hour.) does Jesus have the same knowledge
Since he stated with his own words:
- Mark 13:32
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Read your book properly and open your heart and will be surprised about what Islam says about Jesus Peace Be Upon Him and his Mother May Allah bless her.
@@JILGM
Man keep up the good work, your grind motivates me so much, esp during ramadan. Seeing you upload so often while not actually getting that many views shows your dedication and persistence towards your goals. All the best
Quran (4:171): "O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!-for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs."
"يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ ۖ فَآمِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلَاثَةٌ ۚ انتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلَٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ ۖ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ ۘ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ ۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا (171)"
What a lia
The quraan saying that not
English is a hard language my brother
I swear this guy sounds familiar!
He does and specially when he mentions “ I’m first time here “😅
You don’t even need to know Arabic to hear that he’s argument is faulty. It’s just embarrassing
As Salaam Alaykum
This is really sad!! Smh!!
This is the argument i hear all time from lame Christians😂
Debate me.
@@Is-lamecancer should we start with the bible ? Is the bible contradictive ?
@@Is-lamecancer
On which subject?
@@dinguskhan56
Lets start with is the bible reliable & then we go to if the bible has contradictions or not.
@@dinguskhan56
Why have these verses & many more been removed from all modern bibles?
Matthew 17:21.
Matthew 18:11.
Matthew 23:14.
Mark 7:16.
Mark 9:44 and 9: 46.
Mark 11:26.
Mark 15:28.
Luke 17:36.
1 John 5 7
As an Arab that is the most silly and stupid argument I have ever heard 😂😂
He needs arabic tuition 😅
SubhanAllah.
Subhanallah! He wishes!
He already replied and corrected himself on how Massih's tense as exclusion addition.
Darren is a nice person heart in the right place, he never judges a person even with whatbthey believe, i would have alot of time for him, he would be a good person to speak to with someone who has Autsim( like myself) and person who has depression
The reason it is written this way is to avoid putting the name of Jesus next to the rabbis and monks
It is clear from the grammar’s punctuation of the verse itself that the Messiah (almaseeha-mansoub) is joined with lords and monks, not with Allah (majrour) otherwise it would read (almaseehi)
Anyway it seems that he figured out his mistake once he said AlMaseehi
انا اختكم من اليمن والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وامي واخوتي نستقبل رمضان بالعبرٱت والدموع نحن في حاله لايعلم بها الا الله حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل في من اوصلنا الى هاذا الحال 💔💔وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين من تعز انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب ||| ماتستطيع مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967716649494 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيررا`/--~~««« ~: ~! ~! ~! ~؛ΠΠΠΠΠ💔💔💔πππππ↑]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|)ا]|ππππ====]]]]]
This Christian claims to have knowledge of Arabic, but in reality, he is lying and does not possess the proficiency in the Arabic language. " They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and also the Messiah "
a man with no humility, no patience and arrogant character, Hamza fits the character of islam perfectly
As Salaam Alaikum
Wa Aleykoum Salam
Now i know where the shia AKA ( one of those (claiming to be Muslim types)) got their debate techniques. I see.
May Allah guide us and all
man he brought the verse which it self clarify his own misunderstanding bu saying worship only one GOD in the later part of verse Christians are so deluded and gone so astray they try to neglect crystal clear things
This guy was not asking for explanations. He was debating. Assalamualaykum brothers.
Alright you don't need to read the whole Quran to get the right meaning of this ayah. Here's a simplified أعراب "Arabic Grammatical Analysis":
اتخذوا: فعل ماضي مبني على الضم - الواو فاعل
احبارهم: مفعول به منصوب وهم ضمير مبني اليه
ورهبانهم: مثل احبارهم ومعطوف عليه بالواو
اربابا مفعول به ثاني منصوب
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والمسيح: اسم معطوف على أحبار منصوب بالفتحه كما سبق في احبار، رهبان واربابا وحرف عطفه الواو
I could go into more details, but it's clear that person can speak Arabic but never studied it. The rest of the ayah and the ayah right before 9-30 clearly shows tawhid. Also this a common grammar in Arabic and there are other examples in the Quran. This guy should go back to school.
احسنت هذا هو الاعراب الصحيح
if he knows a first grade arabic grammers then he will know that it means what just hamza explained its so simble
WHAT..! did he just really..!? I have no words..! thus, they arrived to this conclusion with their texts..!
Grammatically or in Nahwu the kalimah al-masih is manshub, the same as The scholars and the rabbi as the object of worship who are mentioned in the beginning It is clearly that wawu athof (translate: "and") after "min duunillahi " is stated as the same group with the scholars and rabbis. And Hamzah you don't even need to bring the other entire ayah to disprove his claim, the end of this particular ayah is already reject his understanding. There is probability that the guess lies when he said the i'rab of al masiha in that ayah was incorrect and it is supposed to be al-masihi .... anyone who have learned Arabic grammar must know that his statement is very silly. Or maybe he never learn Arabic grammar (Nahwu) properly.
The separation between Christ and the priests and monks was made because there is a difference between Christ, who is a messenger and a prophet of God, and the priests and monks are polytheists, and it is not permissible for a messenger of God to be united with these participants. This means that the distinction between the two categories was made for a clear reason.
You should have let him finish the ayaah. ....and they have been commanded except to worship one God. That takes out Jesus where this guy is trying to push in. That would have finished his argument straight away
i thought the same that they were not giving attention to the full verse which clearly negate his point in the same verse
Absolutely. His argument would have been dead on arrival if they had asked him to finish the verse only without going to the rest of the Quran@@rajababy2009
They should've explained the Arabic نصب و الرفع it's basic Arabic grammar.
The rest of the ayat is also clarifying what it means.
Wawo ataf and mansoob and majroor is not understood by majority. You need to learn Arabic grammar.
actually the construction of the sentence is amazing if you observe , the word allah followed by (closer / promixity to ) jesus shows how some people make jesus equal to Allah or being Allah while rabies and priest people dont make them equal to Allah they more like asking them for favours and use them as medium , their mentions were far away from the word "Allah"
I speak Arabic, and the way i interoperate this verse when reading it is that they made their scholars and monks to be gods WITHOUT any command from Allah NOR from his messenger Isa PBUH.
This makes my brain rot
Lafzul jalalah is majrur, wal masiiha is mansub, al-masih is not ma'thuf tu Lafz al-Jalalah , al-masiha is ma'thuf tu ahbaarahum
How in the world does he arrive to that understanding from that verse? Even if he takes it as he understands it, it's still God being reprimanding of them. How does he even...
I think the brothers didn't do justice to exposing the level of stupidity of Joe's argument
when he said it should be al masihi not al misha he realised that what the sheik had said is correct becuase if the verse says jesus is supposed to be worshiped then hes right it should be al masihi but it isnt
wow that’s one of the biggest Ls that I have ever seen. The fact that he took only half of the verse says it all. He ignored the part that says
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡمَسِيحَ ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ *وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ*
[التوبة 31]
*And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.*
before i watch, let me guess...it's the monks rabis or priests jesus allah verse.
The guy watched some of Sam's clips or CP debating with a kid (maybe teens) and thought they can pretend they read the quran and found the verse?
Farid responds actually answered this already years ago.
He says that he is an Arab, and his understanding of this verse in this foolish way indicates what Brother Hamzah said, that he imposes his wrong belief on the Qur’an and interprets it as he interprets the distorted Bible. He did not even read the interpretation of the scholars. Then why did he not ask Arab scholars if he really wanted an answer and was honest about it, I think this pathetic Christian’s game is exposed
Get that man out of that place I beg such liars
And the rest of the verse?
The verse ends with “And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.”
It’s astonishing how those people don’t follow basic language rules- not reading full sentences and not putting things into context 🤦🏻♀️
@@reemy1499 No I know it was was rhetorical. The rest of the verse and also understanding Arabic grammer clearly explain it. Yet they try to impose meanings they want.
One would think if such mistakes existed Islam would not have survived much less make it past the Pagan Arabs.
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The Arabic is very clear to anyone who have studied it. This verse is not even up for interpretation the Arabic makes it very clear what the interpretation is. To those who know the language of-course.
The word “المسيح” (The Messiah) has a fat-ha ( َ ) because it is in the state of what we call (مفعولٌ به) which is equivalent to the “object” in English.
Like in the phrase “I drink water”, ‘water’ here is the object, meaning it is the “object” to which the act “drink” is being happened to.
So the term (المسيح) (The Messiah) here has a fat-ha because it is the object to the act/verb (اتخذوا) (i.e. They have taken).
So it the phrase clearly says (They have taken their scholars and monks *and* The Messiah as lords beside Allah). The last ‘and’ just came later, which is a complex sentence structure and 100% grammatically correct.
Now the caller here claimed that the term (المسيح) (The Messiah) having a fat-ha ( َ ) is “wrong” and wanted it to be a kasra ( ِ ) because then it would make sense to him as he wanted to interpret it as it being added to the “list of those to be worshipped besides Allah”.
The term (الله) (Allah) in the phrase (من دون اللهِ) has a kasra here because it is in what we call (مضاف اليه) which should have a kasra.
So if the term (المسيح) (The Messiah) had a kasra instead then what the caller has claimed would’ve been correct, and it would’ve meant that The Messiah should be worshipped besides Allah.
But it’s obviously not that in the Qur’an it has a fat-ha meaning it’s added to the list of those being wrongfully worshipped instead of Allah.
Such ignorance and I had hoped he would’ve genuinely tried to understand it from an Arab speaker at least one who knows their Arabic language well rather than just claiming non-sense.
" Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him]. " Quran 23 : 91
Can anyone tell me what dialect he is speaking? This is the most confusing dialect it’s not Iraqi, it’s not Egyptian, it’s not Levantine and it’s not any accent I’m familiar with.
Never mind he’s Iraqi. His accent came out at 5:10
It’s strange because he said he’s Arab Christian to make his argument stronger but I am almost certain otherwise he identifies as Chaldean.
THIS IS WHAT THE VERSE SAYS They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allāh,1 and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary.2 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.
NOWHERE DOES IT SAY JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM IS GOD.
He can't understand the narration.
Let me Explain something by verse 31
God sent Jesus to the Jewish people and instead of believing Jesus, they took other things as Gods authority, without God and his messenger, Jesus
The verse is not saying that Jesus is God the verse is saying that they took out from the message that was sent to them by God and start to believe in whatever they wanted to believe without God and Jesus
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subhanAllah 1400 years and he thinks hes the first person to come with such a misreading
Brothers, you did not explain well. Why didn't you give him the hadith where the prophet explained that ayah?
Such a disease is one of the heart. Drowning Christians trying to hold onto the float…unbelievable deliberate ignorance 😮😂.
مع السلامة 😂😂
I know his arabic isn't great by the way he say's "surit At Tawba"
Take off your personal belief's lens before exploring other beliefs. Standard.
I dont know arabic and it took me 5 minutes to find the answer to this and yeah you all guessed it. It comes down to grammar. Mansuub vs majroor. This is what you get told when learning arabic. Someone like him who is "arab" should know this correct? Also guess where this argument comes from? The princess himself CP who also knows no arabic.
Learned Lesson: When you don't focus in your Arabic course, you endup wasting your time and the time of others.
😂😂😂😂😂 I study Arabic language almost 6 months and this is an Arab and he don’t know the grammatic of his language
One of the lamest arguments a Christian can present is about Jesus being God in the Quran. How do you, make such a stupid argument, when the Quran itself says that he was no more than a servant, when the Quran says that those who say Jesus is Allah (in other words God) have disbelieved, the Quran could not have possibly be saying Jesus is God, it’s madness.
In that verse the word Messiah المسيح is maftuh not maksur, so it refers to the verb اتّخذوا (they have taken). So if it's related to Allah then it should be maksur like the word اللهِ.
المسيحِ instead of المسيحَ
It's just pure Arabic grammar, like I am 17 years old. Either this man is ignorant and don't know how to read Arabic in a correct way, or he is just not a honnest person (but I think he's the last one honestly)
In general, our christians brothers have a poor skills when it comes to arabic standard (الفصحى)...i heard many of them Reading some verses from the Quran El Karim, they can barely spell the words correctly
This is so simple. 😂😂😂😂
They just want to suit their believed. Church doctrine
Brother suboor just observing and knowingly his argument is stupid.
Dude, we learnt this in 1st grade. Mansoob be al fat7a.
Im still struggling when people say messiah does that mean the son of the creator? Please help
Messiah means rescuer (literally) because he will come with imam Mehdi to save us from dajjal
And how is he going to rescue you and to where and how will he do that?
Jesus is the Rescuer and Savior of those who believe He is the Son of God. Because He is God, He saves us from our sins which allows us to live eternally with Him in Heaven.
@@oolalamme2698 he is no god he will come to save us from antichrist with another person named imam Mehdi by the will of Allah saving someone doesn't mean being a god
He should hv asked Muslim lantern as he is an Arab , so that he cannot take Arab language for a spin
But how does this time waster translate the verse where it is a conversation between Jesus and God (God asks Jesus if he said he is God) and Jesus responds in the negative.
Two voices, not 1 in 3.
Deniers. Disbelievers.
You’ve waster your time with this ignorant guy who doesn’t understand his own language’s composition. A very easy example to elaborate this verse further and silence this guy quickly would be to say: “I and Joe entered the room, and Mike”. So did I and Joe enter the room and also entered Mike?
"Joe and I entered the room, and Mike ".
Christians will say they entered mike 💀🤣🤣
(وما أمروا إلا ليعبدوا إلها واحدا)
Even the answer is in the same aya.
Christian arabs always have these silly arguments.
They have taken their rabbis and monks as well as the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords besides Allah,1 even though they were commanded to worship none but One God. There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Him. Glorified is He above what they associate ˹with Him˺! Chapter 9.31 Where does it say the son of Mary is God?It only says that they have taken the Messiah and the monks;Rabbis as lords beside Allah
I dont know how he comes to that conclusion