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Why this smaller cannon is BETTER than big ones? ▶️ T-34-57
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- T-34-57 is a soviet medium tank with unusually small cannon for it's battle rating. Despite that the tank outperforms other t-34 variants.
0:00 How OP is T-34-57
0:46 Smaller cannon is better?
4:52 Turret's rotation, cannon's guidance
5:27 OP Stalinium Armor
6:32 Mobility, speed
7:56 Gameplay in ARCADE
9:07 What's the conclusion?
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Gonna send this to my girlfriend
@@winston8762 The loaded shell too 😂
I am surprised that a war thunder player has a girlfriend
Unironically thats facts
@@AyoubusMagnus Make sure your round is capped :)
I love all these jokes lmao
It's high fire rate and high pen makes up for its small caliber, and since it has APHE, it can do a lot of damage in one shot. One of the best and my favourite T-34 in the game!
Past pen effect is shit, not enough explosive mass.
I had to get used to getting many assists with that machine. I love mine, both the tt version and the premium one, but if i had to choose between a 76 or 57 i’d take the 76. T-34/85 is the very best though, especially the E version
@@zoltantakacs807 cause it's a small caliber
meanwhile t29 gets shit ammo vs is6
Me 2 but on 5.7.
Thx for helping me explain to her that small is not bad
Regular T-34-57 and the premium ones = my favourite lineup
And also kv85, isu 152 and the pe8. Lineup for speedruning through events
@@srbin420 don't forget premium P-47 😋
@@srbin420 should i get t34-57 premium one for events?
@@markaspiskunovas6960 absolutely, you won't regret that purchase 😉
@@markaspiskunovas6960 Definitely yes, its even on sale for around 850 GE right now. I got it too and i love it, basically plays itself. If you like the regular T34 57 youll love the premium
The premium T34 57 gets the better turret and an APCR round useful for penning Churchills which are running rampant because of the current battle pass.
On top of that, it gets the stronger 75 mm drivers hatch too. Talk about pay to win!
I got my premium T34 57 from the warbonds shop so no paying required, just winning! XD
Well it actually used to have a higher BR and the 57 wasn’t that great because the post-pen used to be much worse.
my favorite t-34. Because of the reload rate, turret rotation speed, repair costs, etc. For the 85 mm gun I use the KV-85. It's very fast for a heavy tank and has very good reverse speed. The repair costs are not high either.
This is kind of the situation I have with German medium tanks. The Leopard 1 might be the one with the biggest cannon and highest BR before one gets to the stabilised cannons, but the Panther 2 tops it in every aspect for me.
OPHE!!!! 😄😄
True, I'm always more scared of Panther II and Tiger II. Leopard I is easy to kill
I remeber when this tank was the king of 4.3. But i still love it
I totally agree with you
For how much I love 88mm of Tiger, 122mm of Is-2 and152mm of KV-2
T-34-57 is just a great tank, a nice medium tank over all, best part of it its great penetration and reload time, just go "pew pew pew"
"and none of these mediums has a cannon smaller", what about phong khong T-34 with 37mm?
He said medium, the Phong Khong is a SPAA. ;)
this tank is one of the best you can play, is so good that when you level up , the t34 from higher br seems a downgrade
@Muntather Aldamok yeah man, specially after 76mm ones, as you start with korean war tanks feels like you are behind everyone else
It's just like rifles, a smaller round will have a higher velocity giving it more penetration at closer ranges though they suffer at longer ranges as they lose speed due to drag while at longer ranges a larger round can perform better because it's greater mass will use shear mass to punch through.
(This doesn't really pertain to Sabot rounds at high tiers as they use very dense metals to make up for their small size)
Honestly quite incredible
0:20 Correction, 22 across 4 nations. 20 without including phong kong anti air variants
the only time when smaller is acceptable
Please please please review le funni twin 23mm cannon strapped on a APC (the BTRZD). The HE shells on that thing is ludicrous, just grazing a wing can turn a plane to mush
(Source: It was revealed to me in a dream)
The main reason why it penetrates so much is that the Caliber kinda works like APDS pr APFSDS rounds Hitting a very small area making transfering energy to said area harder causing penetration
Only an APC design would be able to penetrate 145mm, though. AP shells really struggle to penetrate more than twice their caliber of armor, since the stress at high velocity usually breaks the nose.
@@kimjanek646 I guess it somehow doesn't break
I certainly love this little tank so much that I purchased even the 1943 variant during the anniversary. It's just such a great all-arounder. I do wish to say an information that I hope gets pinned.
The T-34-57 is very prone to what could be called "barrel overheating" mechanic. Basically, if you continuously fire shots after shots, mainly for long-range, your shots will not be accurate for long. If you attempt to fire long-range shots too many times, you will have to wait between each shot after your 1st or 2nd shots, else you will not hit your target properly. This is crucial information, because this is a very hidden mechanic that never gets talked about, but can heavily hinder vehicle performance and opinion about it.
The T-34-57's gun is also not on the same or performance as the T-34-85's gun as one might think. There's a less hidden mechanic called overmatching that basically makes higher caliber cannons be better on angles and also create more spalling when they pen (one of the reasons the ARL-44's gun is so strong at its BR). This is one of the reasons the 85's gun is said to ignore angles when in reality, it's just that it has higher caliber shells than most tanks it faces. The T-34-57 is worse with angles, so it's sometimes better to wait for enemies that are unaware of you to show a better flat side of their armor if they're unangled atleast, otherwise you have to pray a bit for a hit.
The Premium Version (t34-57 1943) is a extremely good money maker! Still one of my Favorite tanks !
i dont want to buy russian premiums because of self respect. i dont need to cheat to destroy nerds
@@darugdawg2453 sure understandable, it your opinion!
I thought i was tweaking when i used this tank, it felt so much better than the other t-34s and even the 85's that came after it. Honestly my favourite t-34
I'm always bloody up tiered when I even look at taking this tank out 🙄
The 57mm might have all the advantages of the world, really.
The problem in my opinion is the tank. If you use it as a substitute for the t-34-85 you will have way less armour because the 85 is forged by the mighty hand of Stalin and his close friend, Mr Volumetric.
I personally feel more comfortable driving the ASU-57, but this one is a good tank too.
1:15 It literally does not matter how stupid these dad jokes are I physically cant help myself from giggling
Yes the cannon barrel is less girthy than the other T-34 guns, but it's also quite a bit longer.
57mm gun is smallest gun mounted on a T34 and it’s variants
Are we gonna forget that the phong hongs are also T34s that are armed with 37mm guns?
I have this, premium T34-57, spaded KV-85, an AA and a CAS plane in my line up. Pretty fun to play
"the 57 mm gun is the smallest gun placed on a t-34 tank."
Phōng không T-34: 🗿🗿🗿
I’ve won 1v1 duels in matches with a t34-57, just recently duel 2 tigers, won both by shoot their gun and flaking their side, the fact I can bounce a 88 mm shell is crazy haha. Can’t really pen a tiger from the fron unless ur aim is real good
Hey so why not score this at a 9 instead if no serious downsides?
Only thing I can imagine setting it back to 8 is cannon size but reload speed and penetration make up for this slightly less than spectacular post penetration dmg. In your opinion what would set it over the top for you?
He's mentioned in previous comments that 0 is useless and 10 is something that changes the tide of the battle merely by existing with few counters.
While this T is quite powerful, it's not in OP territory yet.
unironically the best tank I've ever used in WT, it's really good in good hands
Just a fun fact
Reloading a T34-85 on average took around and let me make this clear AROUND not exactly 5 seconds
3 Nations?
USSR, Germany, China and Sweden.
I count 4.
Please do the sm91 plane for ground pounding next in italian techtree
You still can play T-34-57 in hull down. It wobbles quite a bit, on the move and on the brakes. Tactically using the latter allows for huge depression boost which somehow doesn't COMPLETELY destroy your accuracy.
It's difficult, but once this one click in your head, you feel yourself like some sort of slasher boogieman on most T-34 tanks, not just T-34-57.
Okay, so, the larger the round, the more air resistance, thus loss of penetration.
Smaller round = less resistance, thus less pen lost over distances.
That velocity smacks
bro MG is ALWAYS useful as it can mark enemies on the map
You are wrong about the 57mm being better than the 85mm penetration wise. The 57mm can get better flat penetration as long the 85mm isnt using APCR ( it got buffed to something like 190mm ) but what you arent considering is the INSANE angled pen of the BR 365A shell. It can literally pen angled tigers across the map.
What are the name of the songs that you're using in these videos? Not sure if the other one was in this video, too, but there's one where you usually switch to arcade gameplay
Now this is a good Christmas gift
Finally my thoughts on this legendary cannon come alive in this video
HTP you should know, its not about size its how you use it
Just played this tank tonight, with 11 kills and no deaths.
one problem I ahve with it is by far the fact the small calliber means weaker penetration on slopes making the 57 prone to bouncing when shooting slopped armor
it has 2 different aphe, one is standard aphe and the other is aphebc, use the latter to mitigate sloped armor issues
@@rxzxqx6982 I still had trouble penning shermans frontally with it in fact you can even see it in the beginning of the video the shell is not very reliable against slopped armor what can get you killed if you arent careful
@@viinazyljen4965 at extreme angles (sherman ufp while it's climb a hill) it still bounce, but in normal situation, most of the time it pen
IMO the t-34-57 is the best, most all rounded t-34 in the entire game, even better than the t-34-85 because of it's lower BR.
thats all great but what about PIECES OF AMMUNITION
Hey man, would you mind sharing your exact graphical settings that you use? Thanks!
my favorite on 5.7
T34 57 was my favorite back when I was grinding Russia
,,smallest cannon on T34" meanwhile phong kong T34 with twin 37mm
well I mean technically Vietnam has that T34 AA with a smaller cannon ;)
But at this time aren't there 4 nations with T-34 variants?
China
Russia ofc
Germany
Sweden
And i think that technically the smallest caliber on a T-34 variants is in the Phong Khong T-34
ummm there is 1 t34 with a smaller gun, the phong khong t34 (anti air t34 in vietnamese) which has a 2 37mm auto cannons
Honestly the 57s could go up in br since volumetric makes them utter hell to kill
What about the chinese AA T-34 with 37mm's?
Aren't it actually four Nations? China/Germany/Russia and Finnland? :D
10 minute video, 2 commercial breaks
Do t34 100 next please.
This video reminds me another time of how much I suck at this game.
Great stuff pal....thanks
My man hasn't even researched KV-85
my absolute favourite t 34
Impenetrable driver's hatch.
the vietnamese AA mod of t-34 has a smaller caliber
0:21 What about the Phong Khong?
Not a medium. :)
First if all love your gameplay man👍🏻👍🏻Superb match...👌🏻👌🏻
The 57 is honestly my preference when choosing a T34. I think it really fixes a lot of the major problems with most russian tanks. Unfortunately russian players are attracted to HE filler as if it was cocaine. So no one will ever listen to reason
Yeah, honestly, it quite easily fits into even a 5.3-5.7 line-up. I have the premium T-34-57, so I even use it there, because it's a great alternative to the T-34-85 due to having a better reload and a far smaller profile overall. The armor being worse is irrelevant, since T-34-85s get lolpenned anyways by almost everything aside from the stalinium turrets and the mobility is almost relatively the same, so it doesn't matter. Having a better reload though can decide life and death when facing a Tiger and Panther for example.
@@hunlepto2239 yeah i use it at 5.3 and its still good 👍 but i have been kinda unlucky with the 1 shots since i think a 3.14kg shell with only 27 grams is not enough to one shot a tiger or a panther reliably, but the fact you can shoot fast and have a high velocity makes the gun so much better then the L-11 And f-34 guns that the t34 76's use, just a good tank, not to mention you can shoot down planes well if you know how to aim well.
do ru251
5:55 turet armor is very weak even for T34 model 1940. Perfect place to be oneshot by shermans, M10+, Swedish stuff, other T34 / KV1, Panzer 3 (long 50 mm), puma, panzer 4 (long 75 mm), StuG (long 75 mm), any tank destroyer soviet or german with HEAT...
Trust me, i thought i would be as invicible as i faced many when playing german tanks, but i get oneshot so many times it's annoying. The lower turret front is shell trap (like on Panzer 4), so garantee oneshot from soviet 76 mm there (where EVERYONE *** AIMS)
Can you do one on both H and P versions of Tiger II?
He already has a review out for the H.
@@Slayer_Jesse thanks , i haven't noticed !! I'm gonna check it out
0:18 Aren‘t there 4 Nations with atleast one T-34?
USSR, Finland (Sweden), China and Germany!
Great firepower, mobility, and protection...but only 8/10? What would it take for a vehicle to get 10/10?
being outright overpowered, prob
I love using the T-34-57 but :( the rng is never in my favor I kill more tanks with heat bullets than with the AP of the T-34-57 it's sad because I love that tank
I snipe leopard 1's with this beauty at 7.0
I also killed a maus with this thing. Yes normally, it won't penetrate no matter what but if you aim at the space between the turret and the body (from side) you can kill a maus with a few shots.
I think the d-5t is way better, it is way better at angels and it nearly always one shot.
@muntatheraldamok9267 and a lot higher BR.
I would give it more than a 8
which shell did you use for the 57mm?
a nightmare to fight hordes after hordes in 75mm shermans
Aphe or aphebc on this tank?
Its way better having a 57mm gun with good fire rate and penetration than a 122mm gun (is2) with a great penetration but a damn 20+ seconds reload. Forget about playing at the front line with injured crew lol, u shoot once and the enemy 5 lmao
Theres a t34 anti Air version but you cant call it a Canon that it youses right
well the phong khong t34 have 37mm
I love Zis 2 Canon 😘😘😘😘😘
Cool Vid.
quickest click ever
luv your videos
It's my favorite russian tank
And 1943 variant also
T 34 57 is best T 34. No one can change my mind
Idk I can’t pen shit with that t-34
See? Say it with me boys:
SIZE
DOESN'T
MATTER!
SIZE
DOESNT
MATTER
AS
LONG
AS
IT'S
BIG
Cuz that what she said.
T-34 OP
It's not small, it's average sized and good enough
finally a good tank
I mean... It's not small, it's pretty average
Chinese T34 AA have a smaller gun ;)
SEE THIS?! THE SMALL ONES ARE BETTER THAN THE BIG ONES!
Comment for the alrogithm.
No shrapnel shot, literally dogwater
no 3 caliber rule
no RNG on hit
best round of course X,D
gaijin know how to unbalance the game