Echo Tracking Buffed? | 2X Your Daily 3-Cost Farm
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- War-scarred veterans of the 3-cost echo grind were oftentimes limited by the number of mobs across their world.
However, there were other mobs that had their grind halted by unknown restrictions on the built-in tracking system accessed through the data bank.
In a recent update, from my testing, this has changed. Find out the best way to leverage these buffed tools in your playthrough.
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Which mobs do you think we'll see more of in 1.1? I hope they add at least 10+ new Herons to Mt. Firmament!
There is also a secret pity system. Mtashed covered it in his video. Basically the thing is you are guaranteed elite class echo every 4pity. Which means if you killed 3 different elite class echoes and didn't get their echoes, you are guaranteed to get the 4th one no matter what. Hope this helps people to farm efficiently.
@@lvlplusplays honestly at 3, is higher drop while 4 is guaranteed when the 3 is not drop
the chance of dropping on 3 is 75% i think... thats what i know
is not always drop at 4
if u want very efficiency farm those 3 cost echos just try 2-2 (2 other mob + 2 specific ones)
but if u a very grinding and want to be always guaranteed then take 3-1 for guaranteed drop... it will make u burn out all day
There'll be an upsurge for ice echoes with the new map, hopefully we get a new Glacio Resonator on v1.2
😂😂😂
off topic, do you have any videos regarding how good and effective lingering tunes could be? who it is best to use with and what are its pros and cons against the other elemental echo sets?
also, what main stats people should go for if they're planning to pursue building one.
i swear theres only like 5 heron spawns a day and they all drop a nice middle finger 😭
5? I at least know around 10 probably..
Alright 10 spawns 4 of them do not drop anything and the other 6 are 5 purples and 1 golc with def stat 😂😂
@@ahmedtag3904 before you fight the heron try to go kill atleast 3 different elite class mob, then you go to the heron. It is guranteed to drop an echo if u have 3 pity
Echo pity, abuse it a little
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Really appreciate the non overhyped, straight to the point content
They need to add a function to track MULTIPLE echos, so some selector function and not just one echo at a time. Using external websites like qiqi to plan routes is nice but most of the time it’s better to have an ingame QOL to track multiple sets or echos.
That's why I prefer simply marking the map and doing as much as I can in-game; constantly tabbing out or looking at a second screen makes the farming feel worse, in my opinion.
@@saintontas The qiqi's notebook desktop app lets you keep everything to a single screen with no alt tabbing.
To get over the innate low spawn of herons I use the pity system. I kill 3 stone golems then go for a guaranteed heron. Even if a golem drops, it's still a win-win.
Yeah, i only farm 30mins - an 1hr for echos to avoid burnout
As an ex warframe player this change is amazing. I love casually grinding echoes while listening to a podcast or video in the background.
More spawn spots is just a way to increase your daily frustration. Ideal solution would be to higher the chance of getting on set damage type, or even introduce new enemies that would drop ONLY limited and needed stats.
I understand that this echo grind is one of the endgames, but I personally don't have that much time and dedication to get an ideal piece
I didn't even know there was a soft update like this. VERY NUCLEAR CONTENT.
Fantastic and valuable info! Thanks!
You forget one thing even if it drops echo with mainstat you want, u need to pray your hardest so the sub rolls is acceptable by ur personal standard, or else repeat the process all over again
Flautist farming made me realize the meaning of my existence and why do I wake up just to suffer
Total nightmare trying to farm Electro, Aero and Fusion sets 😂
Fusion isn't that bad with the massive number of Havoc Dreadmanes on the map, but I can definitely agree with Aero and Electro. Electro because there's only two 3-costs for the set and Aero because there's so few actual 3-costs on the map.
Havoc dreadmanes also come with the fusion dogs which drop healing set 1 cost too. If you also farm the 3 cost lizards you get the moonlit cloud too. So you farm parts of the whole team
Nah man Havoc And electric set is a nightmare 😂
I have a shitton of Spectro Elite echoes, lol
@@saintontashonestly, I have a life to live. I can’t just indefinitely farm. I did all the monsters and didn’t get electro dmg bonus so I just did tacet fields.
when exploring overworld, i usually mark places that i find having 2 or more 3 cost echos in one area to easily build pity for a guaranteed echo drop. Hope this helps❤
Love ur content... very useful
holy shit this video is amazing. subbed!
Hunts Flautist for Electro
Gets around 5 gold echos
Gets Aero/Glacio/etc main stat
Me: IN THIS ECONOMY?!?😮
I just want a Flautists that has an electro mainstat ..
Its not that bad yall. Building the perfect character is supposed to take a long time and most of u are forgetting. You dont even need to farm multiple sets. You can just swap the one good set. Overreacting
Is this a planned update or live? Because yesterday I killed hoochiefs until i got the message and then i went to kill monkey overlord, there was another hoochief at the entrance (same variant that i tracked to extinction)
The fkin lightning chicken
Grinding is a long term goal/ activity in the game. Always get time to rest to avoid burn out.
I stopped farming since the echo xp we have is just really low. Lvling up too lvl 5-10 and looking if the substats are okay drains really quickly. I believe we can do this about 3-4 times per 60 energy tacet field at union 40+. And this barely increases at union 50+. So a max of 16 times a day. This excluding doing the weekly bosses and the double xp events. This just happens to be tacet field this week. But it was highly needed, or at least i wouldnt mind seeing it as the new standard. So yeah turning on some tunes and farming the overworld was fun in the first 2 weeks. But i get suitable echo's much faster than we get echo xp/tuners too upgrade them. So burning out is not my problem. If anything it's the opposite.
I farm a full areo set with double crite and close to full double crite electro set except one cd roll on my flautist , already knows how painful the grind was 💀👀💀
Great video, really helpful 🙂
Wasnt this always the case in 1.0? Ive been able to track endlessly since release just farming exp for DB
it wouldn't be so bad if a good 90% of those echoes were LITERALLY unusable. I'm disappointed when i get DEF 1 star echo, but you know at least if it's electro or havoc Yanwoo and Taoqi can use them and maybe some other character will further down the line. However i'm pretty sure NO FUCKING ONE will ever use that electro fusion prurple heron...
I don't expect to hear or see "Happy Hunting" beside that other game... 😅😅😅
Happy hunting, Rovers! LOL
When did you notice this went live? Because a few days ago I’m not sure if it was
The footage was recorded on either the 16th or 17th
I have a love and hate relationship with echo farming. Receiving a spectro dmg bonus on an aero set Heron is a nightmare. Then there comes the leveling of said very rare aero heron that will tune shitty substats.
So far it is very enjoyable, and frustrating at times.
Me who clears out everything in the map everyday: I see no difference
When I recycled my purple echoes into golden echoes (the feature that lets you use 5 echoes and get a new one), I got a bunch of 3 cost on set dmg bonus, idk if it has an increased chance or if I got lucky. If you're doing farming for echoes, use your "trash" ones there and let us know your experience
Is it today or 1.1?
When I was farming Chaserazors for my Jiyan I am counting most of my runs. Sometimes I only have got 18 and it will say can't detect more. There's one session I had killed 20. Not sure if I am just overlapping my spawns or if all of them spawns at specific time at once during reset. Havoc Dreadmane feels more though or just because they were always in packs :D
Also, not sure if many have noticed, some monsters that are like overheating like smokes with them will guaranteed to drop echo (still affected by rates of 4/5 stars rates) but it will drop guaranteed.
ive been running around grinding echoes every day killing 100s of 1 cost 3 costs and 4 costs and i'm not burnt out yet, the game s genuinely really fun for me and i love grindy games so much. my main issue with genshin and star rail was that once you do dailies, use up your resins and explore the world and finished most quests you barely have anything to do. even though i haven't explored teyvat isn't fully 100% yet it's really tedious
I honestly don’t know why they stop tracking at a certain amount on Genshin too because there’s literally no reason why 😂
weirdly enough I have encountered Echoes that are undetectable
there's a Flautist near the Dreamless domain
and 2 different Rock dudes locations (in a lake near the Monke boss and underground somewhere)
and even if you position your characters right in front of these Echoes they will still be undetected
cries in needing two of each purple heron and flautists
and now i need a feature that increase the drop rate of desrie main stat & sonata effect, increasing by 20% and only can select one stats & sonata effect once a week is fine tho😂
Can you cover the qiqi’s notebook app?
Lingering Tunes and Moonlit Clouds 3 Costs aren't really "Flexible" because elemental damage is still BIS 99% of the time. So while "flexible" in the sense that you can farm all the mainstat at once, they really aren't when you factor in Echo XP
Healing set is mostly flexible since almost every user wants energy regen, with the exception of Taoqi who wants defense %
The event is great. Now I can get 2x the trash echoes.
I'd say forget about farming cost 1 echos, you will get more of those while farming cost 3.
Just hit one or two of them while farming the cost 3.
You will run out upgrade material faster than you have cost 1 echos anyway.
And not to mention that cursed tacet field drop cost 1 too, it's fking ridiculous when you only get cost 1s after spending 60 stamina.
hmm, i dont know if the part about the "detection target not found" message changes is actually true or if it works as intended if true.
as you mentioned i also thought this message means all mobs of said type are gone, but today i farmed "Roseshroom" until i got the message, then i switched to "Havoc Dreadmane" and while farming them i came across 2 more "Roseshrooms"
right after my surprise of finding one more of them i tried tracking them again just to make sure i did not somehow hallucinate the "target not found" message, but the message came up again... and yet i even came across a 2nd "shroom" that wasn't supposed to exist anymore... :(
so i am not sure what exactly they are doing with their tracking system.. lol i guess i have to add mob counting to my next farming session xD
Some mobs part of unique map puzzles/exploration rewards do not show on the tracker, especially if it's an NPC vs NPC fight that the mobs are involved in.
i constantly getting middle finger by the elctro heron and now the wolf
In 1.1 we will get lvl 21 databank that guaranteed a gold drop so that's something 😂
Farming in the friends world is actually great option. I'ts a big miss, that you didn't even mention it. Double drop and double fun for both.
Trhy should've just made the first 15echo guaranteed just like the boss, also tracking multiple elites or mob at a time should be a thing getting to one mob to another is like 80% of the grind
Also drop rate is probably closer to like 35%. I tested it 2 times and on the 1st try i had a 42% drop rate for some reason. The 2nd try was 35%.
I'm happy that DB 21 will lead to no 4* echo yet the 20% being the same is what it is rough, considering 3 cost have every main stat under the sun its tough to get a 3 cost that its ussable (single crit low roll) let alone a full max roll duo crit + attk/ER without farming for hours and hours
I went back to grinding on Diablo 4. Enjoying it a lot more than the daily echo grind. Just doing daily quests and spending stamina on the double tacet fields for now, and I got an electro purple heron today. Also got an electro flautist but it was a 4 star rarity…. Ugh lol
I’m not level 40 so I’m slow grinding the games super fun
I find that it's more fun to me when I take it slow. I only do Tacet Fields too and only off the mobs I see while exploring. I hope they give us the option to convert unused echoes to leveling exp or something. They should just balance it with replayability and rng in mind.
@@beasthaven1571 that’s the right way. Gacha games are more fun as side games and not main games in my experience!
@@hijodelsoldeoriente I hope that we can salvage them into exp or tuners too. It’s odd that you need 2 different resources just to level up the gear in this game.
I want them to put in element track so it tracks all the echoes with the element i choose
I combined all my gold cost 1 echoes and now i have 7 extra electro set Flautist, not counting the other sets I got from other monsters lol
Just got 4 on set matching fusion heron today i feel blessed🕺
i feel the pain when grinding for a decent electro set for calcharo also the tortoise for verena
I have better method for farming multiple echo :
Instead of using in game tracking where you can only track single target at a time then you have to repeat an area you already visit before for your second monster echo run, try using interactive map that show all TD location and highlights only mob you want to farm (in my case i farm for jiyan aero pieces and set the map to only show me monke, murder car and birb)
After that in your browser install extension Picture in Picture for website that will enable you to float any tab in your browser. Float that interactive map you just setup before and voila you do all 3 monster in a single sweep in one go
Edit : you can use your phone but it will be too small, if you have tablet or second monitor then i hope you get your dream echo
The Guaranteed dmg bonus set echoes from the events don't matter to me because i need ER. GIVE ME ENERGY RECHAAAARGE
Does this limitation only works for 3 costs? Cause i spend 4 hour to farm those raveturtles and im telling you those time i spend wasnt enough to wipe them off the map cause it was still tracking
3:31 my condolences indeed
I burnt out pretty quickly. All of the things mentioned, plus the material and shell costs are very limiting. Just gonna hang out till azur promilia comes out
I got most of my proper 3 cost echoes from the data bank gamba so I just kill the TDs I track and every pack that I come across while I'm at it to get fodders
Most of my echoes came from Merging sht echoes
element is not a problem energy reg is
hoping for refinement reroll hahaha
I've been farming sun-sinking eclipse echo for approximately 5-6hrs for my Havoc rover, i just hate how long i farm and i don't get the any elemental havoc bonus from all those drops😂😂😂
do the echo pity and it's 21 guaranteed heron drop daily. It tooks a lot of time though, and luck for the right stat
5:15 brother that’s better than getting 10-13 havoc dmg onset with no crits at,I wasted 47 fuel just to get more tuners
Edit: that’s goes for herons & fusion wolf too
Holy moly I can't even begin to describe how bad I feel for you LOL
RNG giveth and RNG taketh
@@saintontasNever in my life I wanted to throw my phone so bad after rolling these stats
Phone > mere aneme game dont take a game too seriously
that elite roll is literally my havoc mane rolls xD spend 3 days finding one havoc on havoc and shit sub! lol
i swear theres a bug tracking for some echoes, it says no detection found but actually they still have in map... most of echo have this issue... i burn everyday just to check all of them...
the tracking system in game should be fixed anyway
chill grind is the best don't over grind you will get burnout 💯
Ouch I left my laptop charger 🐓
Just do 1 Tassel field daily of specific set chances of getting on set Bonus echo is high
Damn electro chickens
db level 21 will carry us ngl
This isn't right with the current patch... are you talking about a future update? It's quite easy to test that in fact many enemies can stillremain after the detection message pops. Also you areprobably wrong about the tracking feature,too. It seems that only a setamount of enemies are pre-selected and they will ALWAYS be the ones you track. Certain enemies will NEVER be tracked even if you stand right next to them and bring the track feature up for them. can check on the group of 3 roseshrooms just to the east of the giant banyan area should be easy to find them.
I'm full of purple herons Fusion Set with electro dmg and Thunder set with Fusion dmg
Idk why tf they won't make a simulation challenge for echo exp and tuners. I hate that im forced to farm tacet fields just to get echo exp and tuners. I have so many echoes, just lacking tuners and exp so i don't want more echoes
I mean finding them is not the problem really getting what you want is! Also why are you almost dying to normal mobs? lol
Overworld bears have one of the most nasty 4-piece combos I've ever seen.
@@saintontas Just dodge??? /s
Did they fix the tracking target on the hoochief 3 cost.... they only track the white ones
not the brown ones
Both are selectable as different mobs when you are in the hunting tab!
The white ones and brown ones have separate names but both drop the same echo.
I can’t find a number 1 but I have plenty of elite
So first of all this is a practice that would have been inherited from Genshin, as their detect function has functioned this way since the very beginning and still does today.
Second of all, while I can't confirm it now, as it does not function this way in WuWa *now*, I have been farming echos since pretty early on after the games launch and my echo route has not changed for certain dmg bonus echos that I've consistently farmed (while double checking interactive maps) using the detect function before killing a single version of that mob, so I'm not sure it's accurate that this was ever "changed" recently, and definitely not in just the past few days.
So this seems a little bit of misinformation, although it harms nobody.
Which 3 costs echoes have you farmed?
I always farm echo 2 hours/day while watching yt from my tablet,after i clear 2 element 3 cost echo i play other game.cause i just chilling my tower of adversities already have 18 crests with fully random echo tune,and wanted to build my 3rd team after 1.1 cause i dont think getting 21 crests with sol 5 is possible.already have someone gambling on a single team but only got 15 crests 😂.
Me with three eletro Eron that the game give me😅
WHAT THE HELL IS ENERGY REGEN 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have 8 electro dmg flautist but nonvoilet heron 😭
I got only purple heron always
had to do a double take coz you sound like a certain mint picker. xD
i kinda dont understand the problem with the elemental damage echoes because tacet fields literally drop so many of them.
I probably have 5-10 on-set elemental echoes for each set and element by now just by doing tacet fields
A lot of people are saving solvents and have been prioritizing character skills and levels, so they haven't really done tacet fields at all yet.
@@saintontasyeah my tacit fields only drop purples is the rewards based on uk level or world phase level?
U got an A-rank luck account dude... I constantly farming Tacet Field to no avail. Once I got it, the substat rolled down the hill, it gave me flat DEF and HP... T_T
Violet-Birb farming still cringe lol
Not worth it to farm 1 cost if you are limited on time or just don’t want to farm for hours. Farming 3 cost and just turning the crappy ones into new echoes got me so many 1 cost for every elemental stat that I am over stocked and will prob will never have enough materials to roll them.
I love the game but the whole echo leveling/gearing system is cancer. I'm pretty sure we're gonna lose a lot of people to it once they get to the point of needing to farm and level them up.
this game is super underwelming all things considered, once the honeymoon phase wears off. The only possible reason this event is worth doing is for double echo exp drops, and double tuners. I legitimately might stop looking at whatever echos the game gives me, it's just not worth my time. i'll do my dailies, spend my waveplates, but until the devs fix lag, bugs, and the god awful echo system, I won't be spending hours farming for this utter garbage.
THAT IS NOT TRUE. I know this because i double checked the wolfs and others elite with interactive maps like two week ago. Yea there are someone that the game don't show but are really too few to even bother like 3 for the wolfs dreadmane. Even my run today didn't show then so they haven't fixed shit. Unless that fix was late today after i finish farming echos.
I know the locations.. One in desrock highland left side of the map fighting a bear. Other one in central plain near the sea, fighting a bear. Other one in Central plain just in front of gorges of spirits, fighting a exile leader..
I believe that some of these mob events are 'scripted' to activate chests. For example, the one in the desorock highlands when killed triggers a bear and 3 boars to spawn. If the mob's death scripts the spawn of other mobs, I believe it doesn't show on the tracker.
nah, i'm out
God. not another of those crowd pleaser CC who wants more things to do per day then calling it burn out when given what they want. Also an almost 8 minutes video just to explain something as simple as this? Serious?