Why Harley Quinn Season 4 Is The Worst Thing I've Ever Seen
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It should have ended LITERALLY AFTER SEASON 2.
Season one was phenomenal.
Season two was pretty good.
Season three was _real_ bad.
Season four was absolutely atrocious.
What made the first season so great were the character-based storytelling and focus on the interpersonal relationships of our core group. But the series kept falling into nonsensical violence for the sake of it.
39:05 For anyone who wouldn't believe Supermans glasses is a good disguise. Henry Cavill literally walked in Times Square during the man of steel promotions with billboards above and around him and no body noticed that he was superman.
you don't expect actors to just walk on times square
everyone's just like "damn he looks so much like him"
because what the hell would henry cavill be doing on times square
@@ryszakowy Funny enough the same logic applies to Superman.
Also, Superman is seeing as this "higher than life" image, a guy who CAN FLY, NOBODY would see akward, corny, weird Clark Kent and say "Definitely Superman"
This is the logic of people OUT OF THE SETTING, IN THE SETTING, his disguise is perfect, its so perfect it would fool even Luthor, only an autistically obsessed weirdo would try to figure out if Clark Kent, a complete nobody, would be Superman, HIM OF ALL PEOPLE.
@@ryszakowy That's... exactly why Superman works, lmao. Why would a god who flies above us work as a dorky reporter from a farm? 💀
The first two seasons were FANTASTIC but they jumped the shark So quick when Harley and Ivy got together immediately after ivy dumped Kite Man, and Harley's selfish role in their break up.i personally think a lot of audiences turned on her from that.
Harley Quinn originally worked cause it was a great PARODY of a Batman series. And Batman going to Prison was probably one of the most logical things cause you can't really be SANE and be BATMAN. Harley joining the Bat family, another Jump the Shark moment. Joker becoming of a very corrupt Gotham City? That tracks . But why would Harley (when Joker was sane and forgot he was Joker) Harley made him insane again for HER own ends ,it made no sense. I personally that audiences started to turn on the Character. Everything happened too fast
The problem with the show is that after season 2 Harley and Ivy had no where to go as characters because they were no longer bouncing off of fully realized characters or threats. The show won't let them be villains, heroes, or even anti-heroes their external conflicts boil down to stuff that just happened LOL furthermore while their relationship is as fundamentally dysfunctional and toxic as Harley's relationship with the Joker was it doesn't really matter because nothing matters because anything that could matter is discarded as a joke the moment it could have weight and depth the show is now just a forgettable breezy mess.
Batman going to prison is insane, the dude has contributed WAY MORE for society than everyone in that garbage city combined, also being a billionarie succesful entrepeneur, and extremelly smart... but because he dresses in a bat suit at night and beats up the absolute worst of society he is insane?
I fucking hate how they force this idea that Batman is insane, I REMIND YOU, if your version of Batman cannot have a reassuring talk whit a 10 yr old girl, you need to start over.
Batman is a fucking hero, he is a good guy, a morally righteous guy, not an insane lunatic, this is the deconstruction narrative, go watch his 90 cartoons iteration, NOTHING about him said "yea, he is insane"
if that is insanity, then why be sane?
Season one and two were funny with the group dynamic. Def miss Dr.
Tbh I’ll be the first to defend season 3; it isn’t great but there’s individual elements I did enjoy, but 4 just gives “we didn’t wanna continue but we’re forced to anyway” vibes
They really had something with a hero dating a villain dynamic but barely touched on it til the end
harley was actually told about the no kill rule in season 3 episode 9 but i assume the writers just forgot about it lol
Just wanted to add that the whole destroying "male" trees plot made less than no sense, especially when it's grass pollen responsible for most seasonal allergies. Over 90% of plant species have both male and female reproductive organs, something that can be observed by just looking at most flowering plants or the role that bees play in their reproductive cycle. This is something the writers must have realised at some point (seeing as they're writing for the character of a botanist) but chose to wilfully ignore in order to pedal an analogy that likewise is rooted in very little truth. Antihistamines, decongestants and corticosteroids have hundreds of other uses that aren't seasonal rhinitis, e.g. literally any other allergies. Funny how they have a poster with the phrase "science is real", whilst feeding into big pharma conspiracy in the dumbest way possible.
I highly agree. I was really enjoying season 2, it had some genuinely great episodes and although it was far from perfect it was a cute fun show to watch. S3 was a big downgrade but I still watched it because I was hoping it would get better in season 4, and at least the writers were trying to make the story somehow make sense. Then season 4 happened and I'm for sure dropping the show, it's really probably the worst season of TV I've ever seen period. I wanted to like it but there's not a single good thing to say about it, the animation feels worse, the characters are all assholes, the story makes no fucking sense at all, if you can even call it a story. It was actually painful to watch and while I'm usually excited when shows release new episodes every week this time I was just putting off watching it because I knew what it would be like after seeing the first few episodes. It's sad to see this fun and engaging series become such a shitshow, they should just stop and not make season 5 at all because nobody's watching it if it's the same quality as this trash.
Yeah, while I dislike S2. I can say that S2 was a lot of fun, and had some great moments. S3, has a story at least, and while it’s mostly bad, there are some good moments sprinkled throughout (like the Batman focused episode). There’s practically nothing in S4 that I like, just things that had the potential of being decent. I’m hoping S5 is better, but I don’t have hope. The Kiteman show looks cool, but I doubt it will be any good. Either way, I’m willing to give the show one last chance lol.
WORST THING? Ehhh poor humor? For sure but ill keep watching it until my brain rots (god I hate clay face right now)😊
It’s reeking of “Velma” vibes now. And that’s lower than low.
20:00 she states multiple times that she's an "eco terrorist" not a supervillian, so she's using the legion of doom's resources to take care of the environment, which is a goal thats built into her as a character
I loved the first 2 seasons, i enjoyed the 3rd season. Season 4 was....eh. i liked some of it but definitely not a lot of it
"Why are people so casual with interviewing criminals?"
... That's been the case since season 1. This show has always portrayed criminals as having a brand and acting like a legit business/celebrity where they casually give interviews and get invited to shows, all for the sake of humor. I am agreeing with some of the criticisms you do, but I am confused why you're complaining about this *now*
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This season RUINED The Joker. Superman looked the worse he's ever been. It's like they don't know what they want. Full on parody or a slapstick comedy or a drama. I wish they'd go full on to whatever they want. If they wanna do a comedy. Cool. Make it an anthology series. Bottled episodes like Powerpuff girls. Would be quick digestable episodes. This was a trainwreck of a season. Honestly the best episode was when Bane went to Italy. This had 2 episodes that's better than everything in Season 3. But overall it's the worst season because the first 5 episodes and the last episodes were such a chore to get thru. I hope they pick things up with Season 5. Cause i love Season 1 & 2. Or just completely abandon the show.
I am looking forward to the Kiteman spin off though. I feel like it's a better successor.
The first 2 season were good enough, the bat cast along with other characters were at least more consistant then in such a interpretation. Even if the shows a comedy as much as action show, later seasons felt off cus the directions gotten more offputting along with the comedy for the sake comedy. I just fear harldy could end up being the next velma show.
The show is not hateful enough to be Velma. With Velma every line is rock stupid while being laced with so much snarky self-importance constantly talking down to it audience as it holds the IP is based upon with such contempt it actually beggars the question why did they even bother using it the 1st place?
Harley is just kind of lazy now the show just longer has any stakes because everyone and everything in it is just treated like a one note joke.
I didnt know people disliked the show after season 2, so far IVE LOVED IT and only want more!! Hivy does seem forced but in terms of their "get out of jail free" Id give it to them because the show really made me think about how the whole dc superhero world makes no sense when it tries takingbitself seriously because in every batman show/comic we always learn how deadly serial killers and war criminals are always escaping this Asylum which makes no sense because if this world was halfway serious they would all be executed by international law, Harley Quinn playing on this not only gave me a revelation but also made me lmao each time. I also believe Ivy robbing the jewelry store without caring was due to the fact she's become op af now with access to the green. I do see the comparisons to family guy but you have to admit that this adilt animated show is much better than the slop that keeps getting renewed right? It beats out modern family guy, simpsons, and all of big mouth at the bare minimum
The thing is Parodies are made by people who have a handful of critiques of an existing product but not the imagination to create something original of their own. So after they use up these "ideas" ie season 1 they soon decline into the tropes they attempted to ridicule.
Nah that's not it the Ventures brothers parodied much the same material for several years and kept getting better and better, the difference is the Venture Brother let their characters grow, change, and have stakes Harley Quinn stopped doing that after season 2.
I probably have a lot to say, but the one thing i'll say is I believe if there was a Nora redemption arc, it'd be good to picture how her infatuation with Captain Cold could be her way of redirecting her feelings for her husband towards someone else (she kinda always gave me that impression).
P. S. Personal note here, i hope to see more Tefé on next season... and yes, there will be a season 5 since Nightwing was revived and all of that.
There’s 4 seasons ☠️☠️☠️
I remember starting an ep of S4, I think the weird Avatar one with the harlivy kid. And about four minutes in I genuinely just stopped watching and didn't get back to it for three days. I've never done this. Hell I watch every Velma episode as they dropped, not cause I like it but because all the CZcamsrs were talking about it so I wanted to be in the know. But HQ S4 just drained me so much. I can count my total laughs on one hand and I laugh at the dumbest stuff. It even felt like Kaley Cuoco was phoning it in when I found her in the best to be a wonderful voice actress. And Joker was ruined, just flat out ruined this season.
This series is so painful to watch
Then don’t watch it✨
@@emeraldsky2823 You want me to call it bad without watching it?
That what I'm saying get yo hating ass on Harley Quinn is a great show yo boring ass just don't like it@@emeraldsky2823
@@emeraldsky2823you just a boring asshole who doesn't like a fun show
I really hate this show. I have often said the only way to salvage it is to have Harley wake up in the Asylum after Joker leaves her on that boat in the first episode or she's telling everyone a neat little story about how she could have lived if they gave her another chance. Then the group starts poking holes in her story and she gets mad and proves why she doesn't deserve another chance. It's the only true way to end this dumpster fire of a series. Every single character is bastardized and the way they act only makes sense if it's revealed to be how Harley Quinn sees all of them.
Season 3 left us with such a great setup for me and I still can’t get over how much season 4 squandered it. I get they wanted Birds of Prey but they couldn’t have had a better transition?
Power to you not only watching the show but actually making a long critique video about the season. I never felt a season of tv being so dog shit at making me laugh or anything. There are two jokes where I laughed it's the alfred wanting to see bruce and bane going to italy.
It was definitely nightmarish sitting through those episodes over and over again lol. But at least it’s out now. There were a couple things that made me smirk a bit but that’s it.
@@introvertedrobot I watched season 4 but every epsiode I couldn't stop it was like a burning car you can't look away.
I will say in my personal opinion the first two seasons were enjoyable, but after watching this video I can see your takes on season three an four as in good faith.
It's sad to see this series, devolve into flat out terrible writing an blatant character assassination.
I think that S1 is a genuinely good season of TV. Albeit, a bit flawed. Season 1 has a problem of being quite repetitive. As in, Harley will do something, Ivy will advise against it, Harley realises she should’ve listened to Ivy, and then says she’ll listen to her more from now on, rinse and repeat. But that’s probably my biggest complaint for season 1. At the time, I had a lot of high hopes in what kind of new directions the show could take.
I have a bit of a bias towards S2, despite it being not very good in terms of writing. I was still quite hopeful for S3, but these 2 seasons have actively ruined the show for me unfortunately.
It is really sad to this show get ultimately destroyed, when there is still the potential for the show to be great. I even comment in the video on how great it could’ve been if they hadn’t tried to subvert expectations of typical storytelling for shock value.
I’m glad you decided to give this video a chance, since a lot of Harley Quinn fans didn’t bother with my S3 video. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to watch this long ass video lmao. I appreciate it.
@@introvertedrobot it's good I'm just happy to see really good takes on this series because man your takes are really exciting to see.
I wish this series, got better writer's
@@demon_warrior870 thanks, I appreciate it :)
Yeah, I hope it improves. But I doubt they will get better writers.
@@introvertedrobot indeed
Velma but with clown makeup.
I would love to know your thoughts on Venture Bros and Frisky Dingo because I feel that this show borrowed heavily from them.
this show crashed and burned the moment kiteman left.
i did originally like the show because at the time we either got extremely kiddy or overly serious stuff and with harley as a protagonist the "adult" comedy vibe actually fits and setting it during her redemption arc so many spinoffs love doing for some reason made her interesting.
was she a dogshit human being for the show? absolutely and it constantly bit her in the ass, relapsing to the joker when she was on the up set her back down and her having to make friends with kiteman despite her jelousy was great character growth for her, it's just ashame that her getting ivy to cheat wound up splitting the two up and ivy IMMEDIATELY dates harley after being dumped at the alter. i get rebound but that is way way too soon and doesn't give the characters time to reflect on being assholes.
and towards the end of the second season lot more of these harley getting off scot free moments continued to happen, like suddenly being on speaking terms with mr freezes wife after directly leading to his death.
and honestly by the end of season 2 the novelty of dc family guy wore off, i only really watched for the plot but the fucking potatoe harley being the thing to make her quit heroing just sent me. with how aprehensive she was at that point it's flat out out of character for her to murder nightwing. like screw the power scaling arguments, harley only ever murders in a fit of rage or not holding back in combat, and if she wasn't lucid enough to know she killed someone she sure as hell wouldn't have hid them in a tree.
the end of the season every character has been assasinated or stopped appearing. i don't even know if there is a season 5 cause i've not kept up with it at all but frankly half the batfamily are gone, harley is still as unstable as she was in season 1, and ivy is just straight up boring, like i get she's an eco terrorist but even then the ceo stuff is only tangentally related, the main focus is on her trying to be a girlboss leader when like, she should hate corporations cause those are the things which pollute the most, maybe not going full commie but definitely wouldn't want to participate in that system.
1:30:16 I thought they were referencing Big Time Rush 😭
The best Harley Quinn TV Series Content is the Comics in the same universe. Written by people not involved with the show and actually treats Harley and Ivy as a real couple, and features several other heroes and isn't "Family Guy" style humor. I'd recommend them over the show any day of the week. Vixen is especially one of my favorite characters in it as well as her girlfriend, and Harley's story of trying to join the BatFamily is done a hundred times better than the show ever pulled off. After reading the comics related to the show I wonder why the show isn't more like them instead. It's vastly superior, I'd definitely recommend checking out Real Sidekicks of New Gotham & Legion of Bats to see an actual good representation of what the show COULD be if they had better writers. The comics actually feel like they're actually couples and storytelling and not 90% exploitive comedy like the show poorly pulls off.
the show went downhill the moment it started pandering to the toxic harley x ivy shippers. Show was better focusing on Harley just being Harley. Kiteman and Ivy were great together. An eco terrorist and a eco fanatic. But then the toxic fans yelled out and kept demanding "we want HLA! HLA! HLA" and they gave it to us. Then they make Harley's new outfit the trans pride flag in S4. They do the whole BS with Bruce and the Bat Family. NOBODY cares. We came for Harley. Imagine, if you will, putting on the CW's Supergirl. But instead it focused mostly on Clark, Hal Jordon and Arthur Curry. (Superman, Green Lantern and Aquaman) instead. Thats what this shows become. "Oh you wanna watch Harley? Well here's Dr Psycho calling Wonder Woman a c4nt, here's Ivy getting off on a vine and heres Bruce having a midlife crisis."
this is sooooo funny, harlivy was always meant to happen, no one pushed the writers to make it canon, the seeds had been there since the start, and also, they're canon in a lot of the comics so??? What, lol. Also your trans flag criticism or whatever the fuck is very stupid, are you seriously mad at some colors. Also, this show has been very left-wing and diverse since episode one pretty much.
@akamisdarth Actually i dont think its canon in the mainline comics but more side comics. So its semi canon. Given the whole multiverse shenanigans its fair to treat anything in a comic as canon no? So ivy breaking up with harley or joker turning for the better or batman reviving his dead parents etc
@@GenesisBoi they are cannon in the main comics if you see either the current harley quin or poison ivy runs but their even in the catwoman and batman comic runs too and all 4 of those comic series take place in the main continuity
@@phoebewilson6711 oh cool
about harleys costume: its not even the trans flag colors lmao. its the colors of her hair, plus black. the trans flag is pink, blue and white. Any white in the design is just her skin. one of harleys more recent designs post bat family is black and red and so is her hair, so its just a reference to that lol.
38:21 she has white skin, not makeup in this continuity. Just to be clear. It’s something I actually hate about the character since the new 52.
The Green is a thing in the comics. I can yield maybe newbies didnt get a clear explanation.
Actually barbra join the bat family in season 2 and joker was an amnesiac at the time.
That’s true. Still, she should be able to take him fine.
@introvertedrobot, oh, I agree. I'm just thought it was a good thing for you to know.
@@mikeval1525 Thanks for telling me!
Should've ended at season 2 fr
I think the last season I watched was season 2
Since Suicide Squad game got so much backlash, I would like to say that
You have warned us.
Third season was a dip in quality but I thought it got better in four . . . Hey that’s a good meme idea to have Saul Goodman defending whoever you photo shop in
Harley quinn season 3 and 4 is worst
S3 doesn’t compare to how godawful S4 is. Tbh, I’d probably even put S2 as bad, but not to the degree of S3 and 4.
At the start of the series I thought that was the best DC series I've ver seen, but it gets worse😭😭 If I'm honest I only watched it for the main ship. But have to accept that the humor of this show is shit.
I’ll do you one better.
I was disappointed with this show from the getgo.
This show from the word Go was the screaming special needs child incarnation of the phrase, “Wasted Potential.”
So sad they mad make talia al ghul worse villain
this show has gone bad... and this is coming from someone open minded enough to have a chuckle or two at hannah gadsby's comedy special
I personally always found the core concept of the show to be fundamentally bad, from its conception to the end point, it was always character assasination from the ground up, it was always subvertive, Harleys entire existence is a byproduct of the Joker abuse, keeping her the same AFTER she ended whit the Joker, is like still slapping and punching yourself in the face after your abusive alcoholic husband died, it was all turned into a VERY bad joke, Poison ivy becoming lesbian and the romantic partner of Harley is also ironic as fuck.
a manipulative, deadly, narcissistic HUMAN HATING half plant control freak ends up being Harley new partner... HOW FUCKING IRONIC I SAY, but apparently lesbians are always good and would NEVER abuse their partners.... i will just say, Ivy being lesbian is stupid because SHE HATES HUMANS, all humans, she barely tolerated Harley because she was amusing, like a pet, making her "this" is a MASSIVE jump in character narrative.
But even then, imagine when you have a show that already had a broken, disfunctional premise, a failed attempt that was CONDEMNED to fail, and you MAKE 4 SEASONS, the ONLY THING you can do, is humilliate everything around you.
This show has been dogshit from fhe start, but i checked out after the Mr Freeze thing, the way they treat his death, the way the write Nora afterwards, my god is it awful. This show should’ve never been made.
This show can’t say I’m a fan of its not good it’s basically like DC’s equivalent of Velma if know what I mean now young justice that’s a good DC animated series I feel like
10000 percent disagree. Velma never should have saw the light of day. Harley Quinn if far superior.
@@DiabloBiscuit to me the reason why I say both shows are similar is because when you watch them, you have to think you’re watching a adult swim flick they’re not really representing their respective things I feel like if you know what I’m saying
@@DiabloBiscuit you have to understand. It’s essentially like the shows are making fun of themselves if you know what I mean. I believe
@@DiabloBiscuit that’s why I say it’s sort of like adult swim flicks. You know how they basically make fun of pop culture while being pop culture you know what I mean?
The most I ever watched of the show was trailers on tv and OMG JUST pain agony And suffering That's what this hour and something minute video was.
I'm just happy I didn't watch it The review was enough I pity all the people that wasted their time with this.
I have a headache now From this but thank you for the headache from the review of the show so I know never to watch it Thank you so much and I am so sorry for your suffering.
With the part when mark get floated up his phone falls down like normal earth gravity so like wtf.
i swear this feels like watching a mauler or Madvocate video and i love it
we got harley quinn's own gas leak year
i m a great fans of the comics , the animated tv serie , the movie but this season 4 ..... nope just nope
This shit pissed me off 🗿
You seen gen v
One episode of it. It was mediocre. Does it get any better?
@@introvertedrobot My personal opinion I think it's good I think you should watch it two or three more episodes
I’ll give it another shot then.
Poor Neytiri... 🥺
I’m gonna be honest I put season 3 below season 4 cause I think Harley and Ivy are at their best when they are apart. Mainly because it barely focused on the “let’s fight and make up” every other episode. Being in a relationship but not being defined by that relationship at every step was a good choice.
I want Harley quinn x Joker in season 5!!! I would rate it 11/10🎉❤
masterpiece
The show was always bad. They couldn't manage to get Quinn's voice right, it's a bad Family guy cutaway
You must have never watched Thelma!
I liked season 1 and 2, it all went downhil from there
8:55 this argument is not valid at all, in this particular scene its clear that Lex is setting Ivy up for failure on purpose which is why he doesn't do any of your suggestions, i was expecting a well thoughtful review but its like you didn't watch the season, its like you just picking and hate watching
If she's being setup to fail as a CEO, then idk why Lex would give her so many opportunities to succeed as a CEO. Like giving the John's to Ivy. When the John's were present, it was shown that they were helping with Ivy's brand. The only reason she didn't want them anymore is because they were stressful to deal with, and she didn't want to feel like a sellout anymore. If Lex is setting her up for failure like you suggest, then there are many scenes throughout this season that contradict that. Meaning that he was character assassinated in the span of only a couple of episodes.
I dont mind if this story is not good. im still hoping to see harley quinn x Joker come back in season 5! I want them together as they fuck
Clearly you haven’t seen Riverdale, your opinion is based on nothing
I have seen (part of) Riverdale, and it’s not very good. S4 of Harley Quinn is probably on the same tier as Riverdale. I still think S4 is one of the worst things I’ve ever had the displeasure of witnessing. Also, my “opinion” is based off of the quality of writing shown in this video. I am basing my opinion off of objective flaws within the show that contradict itself.
I want every season of harley quinn until it reaches in Seasons 50. i want harley quinn x Joker only! As they continue to fuck! Doing fucking around! And i will enjoy the show!❤
Just admit that you hate shows with female leads
My last video was literally on the Barbie movie, and how much I liked it. What do you mean?
@@introvertedrobot you’re nitpicking every little thing in the show and then saying it’s bad because it’s different
i hate the gay agenda and the female lead who fights 4 grown men with ease
i don't care. Its a comedy. Not Schindler's list. thumbs down. And imdb is shit
Schindler's List is a comedy though?
Well no, that implies that it's funny
If the story doesn’t matter in this comedy, then why did it have a story to begin with?