As a crew member of the Balao class, sub, USS Carbonero SS 337, back in 1965, I was in the after torpedo room when we took a steep up angle of about 45 degrees to surface. The boat slid back down and the stern went well below test depth. I recently learned from other crew members who were told by the COB that the forward torpedo room, was at 600 ft. That put the after room at least 100 ft deeper. Carbonero's test depth was 412 ft.
My father served on the Redfin (ss272). At one of the reunions members of her re commissioning crew were there. They told me they had a similar experience (including some colorful descriptions about one of the officers involved). They also went to 700 feet before stopping the dive. Redfin was a Gato class (Guppy upgrade) so test depth 300 feet. Anecdote: My father was TM1c who did 7 war patrols in the after torpedo room. He liked being away from officer's country. :)
@@majormattmason8408 Gato class 300 feet test depth crush depth ~500 feet .. 700 feet???? 9/16 steel hull? sounds like someone was drinking that torpedo fuel.
Spent awhile working on Balao class submarines during my apprenticeship. They would string a wire from the port to the starboard bulkhead and watch it sag as the boat went deeper. I was working mainly on periscope bearings and fire control alignment.
oldi184 Well that was 40 years later. But even at the time that wasn't that deep. German submarines at the time were able dive way deeper. For example the _Typ VII C/42 (desinged around the same time as the american boat)_ Was certified to go to 920ft and could theoreticly reach 1300ft before being crushed.
tropicthunder131 Well then I might aswell add that the production of the Typ C/42 was stopped in oder to be able to produce the Typ XXI (a technologicaly more advanced uboat). Not because it was bad or something like that...
Destructive testing reveals what is going to break first so improvements can be made. Stopping just short of catastrophic failure still reveals many things that can be made better without losing a crew along with the sub.
Side note, the scene in Down Periscope where Kelsey Grammar takes the boat down the first time and pops w valve off from pressure is based on this event.
“The first disclosure, sort of a trial balloon, was the true depth reached while Tang was being hounded by the destroyer west of Saipan. In the pump room a sea-pressure gauge had actually passed 350 pounds per square inch, or 700 feet, before steadying, but the few who knew this decided to keep the information to themselves, and I believe they exercised good judgement.” - Rear Admiral Richard H. O’Kane, USS Tang
Imagine if it failed.... "kid your dad died testing a submarine" but dont worry thanks to his sacrifice we can make a better sub and maybe your uncle will test it! OuO
Craig EwingThis was more involved than depicted here, measurements were taken to determine hull deformation. To learn how Tang was lost shortly after firing her last torpedo on her 5th patrol, read Richard O'Kane's excellent book "Clear the Bridge"
Craig Ewing get a set of dolphins. Then you can comment. In then. You mean nothing to us. We were at test depth and far below it when you weren’t even born son. We have faced god and surfaced again. Two kinds of vessels out there. Submarines & targets.
I don’t see any reason why in 2019 computers can’t be the “crew” when pressure testing a new sub. Pressure sensors, cameras, audio devices can be placed in strategic areas to monitor stress’s on the hull. The primary computer can decide if there is a danger of flooding and surface, no danger to any human crew.
It's intersting how the germans had better test depths but were behind on other factors, guessing it was more of a design philosophy choice given the separate theaters they were designed for
@@Man0fMeans das boot is a ww2 uboat movie depecting the hard life on the German ww2 uboats while also humanizing the Germans, das boot literally means "The Boat"
THAT WAS INSANE- WITH THE PRESSURE HULL ALREADY UNDER THAT KIND OF STRESS, A DEPTH CHARGE EXPLOSION MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE CLOSE TO BE THE "LAST STRAW" TO IMPLODE THE SUBMARINE!!! THE ONLY TIME TO PRESS YOUR LUCK LIKE THAT IS WHEN IT'S PURELY A QUESTION OF SURVIVAL, AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!!!
I agree, I understand they want to test it but they were really cutting it way too close, one minor malfunction, one wrong move, and you are done. A bit reckless and irresponsible not to mention causing possible damage and obvious stress on the submarine.
actually over 920 or around 280m. a few uboats have been known to hit 300. one going 340 due to a part of the boat being flooded with the water tight hatch sealed. and surviving as it surfaced minutes later.
It takes guts to have a job like this one. Because looking on the outside in all I see is... Navy: Yay, a new Sub!! NOW GET OUT THERE AND TEST OUR NEW TOY!! Men: SIR!! YES SIR!!!! That One Guy: This is gonna be fun- Submarine: *Implodes*
Those were 'thick-skinned' boats vs. the previous 'thin-skinned' units.. Test depth on the former is 400 ft.. Crush depth was 600+, IIRC.. I was on the USS Redfish and USS Razorback - and at times we were ordered to ascertain seawater integrity by diving to test depth.. Not a big deal..
On eternal patrol forever. 3808 of us. Every patrol ends with “SURFACE, SURFACE”. If not. Your gone. Watch tolling of the boats. You’ll get a grip on what we do.
@@General_Eisenhower1945 As the hull compresses, the creaking can usually be heard. Nukes and non-nukes alike! *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
thought is they didn't have oxygen in tanks or air scrubbers on those submarines. they had to come up to get air, talk about cast iron balls. not to mention if the sub went down and some crew managed to survive, there were no rescue teams to come get them.
Call me junior again. I’m a TORPEDOMANS MATE MCPO USN (SS). If you’ve ever served, Have had my dolphins since 1980. Bluenose/shellback. Lived on nothing but popcorn and pancakes for 64 days. USS MSP, (plankowner) USS HAMMERHEAD, USS GUNARD, USS OKLAHOMA CITY (plankowner). Subron 6, MCPO , Subron 8 MCPO, Company commander for USN Bootcamp at RTC San Diego, And RTC Great Lakes IL. Mock as you will, but we did what nobody else would do. We were the elite fighting force of the USN for WWII. We sunk more tonnage of Japanese shipping during the war and were only 6% of the whole US NAVY. you can’t grow a pair of dolphins. They can only be earned. Get some time under the pond.
@@firecracker4277 492 feet (150m) was the Factory warrant depth (Werksgarantie) It means you could dive there without any issues and stay there all day long (as long you have enough power and air) But the test deapth was much deeper. A type VII c can go at around 800feet (245m) then it gets critical it depends on your specific boat how much room you have left from that point on. A perfect crafted boat can still go a bit deeper. A Type XXI boats can even go deeper by default because they where carbon reinforced 1100feet (335meter) are possible.
when you're trying to see how deep a submarine will dive, it's important to know that when pipes start rupturing, that's when it's time to start heading for shallower depths
I’m a mechanical engineer and I wonder what the “factor of safety” is on a sub. I would guess it would be around 1 1/2. I would not be running the boat right up to the limit of the factor of safety, so perhaps it is higher. But cost and weight would be limiting. An elevator has a factor of safety around 40, while a spacecraft might be only 1.1. I wouldn’t be so trusting of the engineers.
The only difference was how deep you went. Was on a boomer that at a certain depth the hull compression made a big boom throughout the boat. First timers and non quals almost pooped in there poopy suits. 23 years on the boats.
With komsomolets K278 we talking metres. Actually I have heard it was deeper than RoCkEt QuEeN say. In October 1988, "K-278" received the rare honor within the Soviet navy that it had its own real name: Комсомолец (Komsomolets, which means "member of the Youth Communist League") and Commander Captain Jevgenij Demitrievich Chernov was made entirely of the Soviet Union for diving to a level deeper than 1300 meters.
@@bobriedel3277 i can go deeper as 800 feet but then it gets critical it depends on how well all your boat was made wich depends on the craftmansip of the builders. On a good one you can reach even 900 to 1000 feet on a well crafted type 7c
Anything below 300 ft. is challenging. Professional free divers go 400 ft. plus. Extremely risky. Lung size shrinks to less than 15% normal size. Inability to utilize this feature would kill most humans.
Jaxon Burnette there are divers who work for oil companies who go extremely deep. I forgot exactly how deep, but all the way down to the ocean floor. They live in pressurized cabins so that they don’t have to depressurize everyday, which at their depth would take 4 days to do. There’s a good CZcams video about it
The CO of the Tang was Dick O'kane, the XO under Mush Morton on the USS Wahoo, and Morton was very aggressive tactically as a sub captain. O'kane also liked to be aggressive, and some of Morton probably rubbed off on him.
Acc0rd79 you are a person of no appreciation for what we have done. Submariners were & always will be the bravest fighting force the USA has ever had. Sunk more tonnage of Japanese fleet than all other forces combined. Yet we’re the smallest force our military had. 3808 still on eternal patrol. You non-qual.
Probably until the most modern sub now is not as modern in the future. From my understanding, when they talk about weapons and ships and all their top notch capabilities, it is actually no longer top notch since they wouldn't want to gave that information away if it was.
I get they want to test out how far they can dive, but I still wouldn't want to play with death that much. I would surface as soon as leaks began springing from the pipes.
hehe depends how deep the bottom is. Deepest military sub i know of from rumors was the russian titanium hull fast attack sub. 3000 feet there is a LOT of ocean deeper than 3000 feet.
It wasn't the best sub that the USA had during WW2. The Tench class looked superficially similar but had several important improvements. The US probably should have shifted all production to Tench class but in fact both Balao class and Tench class continued production at the same time until the end of the war. Also, after the war the entire sub fleet should have fully migrated to Tench class and scrapped the others. Both classes historically received modifications and upgrades and saw long service. Moving entirely to Tench class could have improved safety and capabilities. During the war, the excuse was that they did not want to delay production delivery times by switching but it probably would have been worth it in hindsight. The orders for both classes were cut short by large numbers because of the end of the war. Personally I believe that the US Navy should have continued production of the latest classes of vessels to modernize up to known best standards of the time. But, huge postwar budget cuts prevented that. Just a short while later they had to scramble to ramp up production again with the growth of the Cold War and the Korean War. Some of the late WW2 designs were particularly well suited to modernizations such as the Tench class submarine and the Gearing class destroyers. Some of the improvements thought to be small at the time turned out to be very important later on. The Gearing class for example was lengthened from the Allen M. Sumner class to increase range. But this modification also made them well suited for periodically updating weaponry over time. Again, the USN should have shifted to all Gearings but they had to keep many older destroyers of older designs. Keeping production going just a bit longer could have allowed this to happen. Des Moines class heavy cruisers should have also been built in larger numbers, at least to their planned run of 12. Their 8 inch guns were later determined to be the ideal caliber for shore bombardments and had a very high rate of fire. They were also fast enough to escort carrier groups. USS Newport News was still used during the Vietnam War, attacking high value targets on shore. If they had all been built and the money had been spent to modernize them all, they probably would have taken part in conflicts during the 1980s and 1990s as well. Worcester class light cruisers similarly could have had a longer life with larger production run and upgrades.
Let me know the next time you dive a smoke boat Selene. You don’t get that diesel smell off you for 30 days. 750 ft is for girls. I’ll take my 1500 ft any day of the week and not smell like a gas station. I did smoke & pig boats. It was nasty. I’ll take a 688 and go kill anything.
@@stevefarris9433 He seems quite proud of himself - to the point of mking stuff up! *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
I don’t believe this is how any navy would operate in peace time. Take it deeper and let’s see what happens, you must be joking. Commander you are now on a charge for putting sailors lives at risk in peace time. Let’s see how fast we can go.....increase the reactor power to 120% ...FFS.
Yeah I think testing to that extreme is pushing it too far. All it takes is one minor malfunction or miscalculation and you are done, a bit irresponsible and reckless in my opinion especially since the sub is sort of being strained and possibly damaged to some extent.
Those guys must have been so relieved when the order to surface was given.
Lol ya
So tense the submarine is sweating
Conor O'Brien lol
😅🤣😂😆
I take it you wanted to put the captain through a wall?
As a crew member of the Balao class, sub, USS Carbonero SS 337, back in 1965, I was in the after torpedo room when we took a steep up angle of about 45 degrees to surface. The boat slid back down and the stern went well below test depth. I recently learned from other crew members who were told by the COB that the forward torpedo room, was at 600 ft. That put the after room at least 100 ft deeper. Carbonero's test depth was 412 ft.
My father served on the Redfin (ss272). At one of the reunions members of her re commissioning crew were there. They told me they had a similar experience (including some colorful descriptions about one of the officers involved). They also went to 700 feet before stopping the dive. Redfin was a Gato class (Guppy upgrade) so test depth 300 feet.
Anecdote: My father was TM1c who did 7 war patrols in the after torpedo room. He liked being away from officer's country. :)
You men that served on the diesel boats will always have my deepest respect. Nuke boats were pleasure cruises by comparison.
@@majormattmason8408 Gato class 300 feet test depth crush depth ~500 feet .. 700 feet???? 9/16 steel hull? sounds like someone was drinking that torpedo fuel.
@@stumpedii8639 No one knows the true crush depth til they get there...
Spent awhile working on Balao class submarines during my apprenticeship. They would string a wire from the port to the starboard bulkhead and watch it sag as the boat went deeper. I was working mainly on periscope bearings and fire control alignment.
It's weird to think they were probably amazed by this but by today's standards its nothing more than a shallow dip.
Russian sub K-278 Komsomolec could dive up to 3200 ft. Thanks to Titanium alloy.
oldi184 good old stalinium
oldi184 Well that was 40 years later.
But even at the time that wasn't that deep.
German submarines at the time were able dive way deeper.
For example the _Typ VII C/42 (desinged around the same time as the american boat)_ Was certified to go to 920ft and could theoreticly reach 1300ft before being crushed.
The C/42 was never produced. The C/41 was certified to 820ft though.
tropicthunder131
Well then I might aswell add that the production of the Typ C/42 was stopped in oder to be able to produce the Typ XXI (a technologicaly more advanced uboat).
Not because it was bad or something like that...
It’s in the books (Janes Fighting Ships) now my first boat was a 598 (SSBN-601) test depth 700’ my second boat was a 637 class (665) 1300’
Destructive testing reveals what is going to break first so improvements can be made. Stopping just short of catastrophic failure still reveals many things that can be made better without losing a crew along with the sub.
Side note, the scene in Down Periscope where Kelsey Grammar takes the boat down the first time and pops w valve off from pressure is based on this event.
“The first disclosure, sort of a trial balloon, was the true depth reached while Tang was being hounded by the destroyer west of Saipan. In the pump room a sea-pressure gauge had actually passed 350 pounds per square inch, or 700 feet, before steadying, but the few who knew this decided to keep the information to themselves, and I believe they exercised good judgement.” - Rear Admiral Richard H. O’Kane, USS Tang
Imagine if it failed.... "kid your dad died testing a submarine" but dont worry thanks to his sacrifice we can make a better sub and maybe your uncle will test it! OuO
Sounds like the US military. and then maybe they'll give the kid some experimental drugs
Craig EwingThis was more involved than depicted here, measurements were taken to determine hull deformation. To learn how Tang was lost shortly after firing her last torpedo on her 5th patrol, read Richard O'Kane's excellent book "Clear the Bridge"
Craig Ewing get a set of dolphins. Then you can comment. In then. You mean nothing to us. We were at test depth and far below it when you weren’t even born son. We have faced god and surfaced again. Two kinds of vessels out there. Submarines & targets.
I don’t see any reason why in 2019 computers can’t be the “crew” when pressure testing a new sub. Pressure sensors, cameras, audio devices can be placed in strategic areas to monitor stress’s on the hull.
The primary computer can decide if there is a danger of flooding and surface, no danger to any human crew.
Yeah I wish they had 2019 computers in 1943 so the real crew didn't have to test this
So why they hit car to the wall for test, This is only way when u want test metal structure.
I think this may be what some Navy veterans say "The Navy is the best service, who else will bury you in a $100 million dollar coffin?"
Shows how good the German WW2 subs were. Their Test depth was 230M (750 ft). No Allied sub could come close to that.
It's intersting how the germans had better test depths but were behind on other factors, guessing it was more of a design philosophy choice given the separate theaters they were designed for
watch the movie das boot.
Dive dive dive dive dive
I don't care for footware. You should recommend a submarine movie.
@@Man0fMeans what?
@@leonxrdd Das Boot. Footwear.
@@Man0fMeans das boot is a ww2 uboat movie depecting the hard life on the German ww2 uboats while also humanizing the Germans, das boot literally means "The Boat"
THAT WAS INSANE- WITH THE PRESSURE HULL ALREADY UNDER THAT KIND OF STRESS, A DEPTH CHARGE EXPLOSION MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE CLOSE TO BE THE "LAST STRAW" TO IMPLODE THE SUBMARINE!!! THE ONLY TIME TO PRESS YOUR LUCK LIKE THAT IS WHEN IT'S PURELY A QUESTION OF SURVIVAL, AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!!!
I agree, I understand they want to test it but they were really cutting it way too close, one minor malfunction, one wrong move, and you are done. A bit reckless and irresponsible not to mention causing possible damage and obvious stress on the submarine.
actually a bomb.. is rapid expansion of gas.. at greater depths.. those bangs are much smaller..
"it can withstand 400 feet"
meanwhile german U-boots diving at 800...
which is as they say " a drop in the ocean" for a U-boat
actually over 920 or around 280m. a few uboats have been known to hit 300. one going 340 due to a part of the boat being flooded with the water tight hatch sealed. and surviving as it surfaced minutes later.
Komsomolets k 278 1030 meters 💥
rocket queen Trieste 10833m
@@martinandersson5278 size of crew compartment of trieste and the size of Komsomolets...
U try to compare submersible with submarine...
It takes guts to have a job like this one. Because looking on the outside in all I see is...
Navy: Yay, a new Sub!! NOW GET OUT THERE AND TEST OUR NEW TOY!!
Men: SIR!! YES SIR!!!!
That One Guy: This is gonna be fun-
Submarine: *Implodes*
Incredible and double incredible but great!!🇺🇸
Lol north koreans like: 612 feet you say
What's the crush depth? Only one way to find out.
Thank heavens no one had to do a number two as that's a novel way to lose a German Submarine.
Those were 'thick-skinned' boats vs. the previous 'thin-skinned' units.. Test depth on the former is 400 ft.. Crush depth was 600+, IIRC.. I was on the USS Redfish and USS Razorback - and at times we were ordered to ascertain seawater integrity by diving to test depth.. Not a big deal..
On eternal patrol forever. 3808 of us. Every patrol ends with “SURFACE, SURFACE”. If not. Your gone. Watch tolling of the boats. You’ll get a grip on what we do.
*You're
Didn't submariners know how to spell?
Redundant. Eternal and forever mean the same thing.
Thanks
*That was so tense even the submarine was sweating*
stolen comment
The creaking is water trying to get in
Ebony Hound never see anything like that on them big nukes eh?
@@General_Eisenhower1945 As the hull compresses, the creaking can usually be heard. Nukes and non-nukes alike!
*s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
@@SaltiDawg2008 I'm sure, I was quoting a movie though. But thank you for your service
@@General_Eisenhower1945 Im sure you meant no offense to the USS Rustoleum there. Are we sure its not a float in a parade or something?
I would have been afraid to open the ballast tanks at that depth, but you got to hand it to the commander he has big cajones
I can think of nothing worse than being en
Tombed in a cylinder
Completely Windowless hot stagnant air surrounded by sweating
Men.
Good thing modern subs have AC and are much more spacious than WW2 subs.
modern subs are like air conditioned windowless office buildings.. or a giant elevator inside one..
thought is they didn't have oxygen in tanks or air scrubbers on those submarines. they had to come up to get air, talk about cast iron balls. not to mention if the sub went down and some crew managed to survive, there were no rescue teams to come get them.
Call me junior again. I’m a TORPEDOMANS MATE MCPO USN (SS). If you’ve ever served, Have had my dolphins since 1980. Bluenose/shellback. Lived on nothing but popcorn and pancakes for 64 days. USS MSP, (plankowner) USS HAMMERHEAD, USS GUNARD, USS OKLAHOMA CITY (plankowner). Subron 6, MCPO , Subron 8 MCPO, Company commander for USN Bootcamp at RTC San Diego, And RTC Great Lakes IL. Mock as you will, but we did what nobody else would do. We were the elite fighting force of the USN for WWII. We sunk more tonnage of Japanese shipping during the war and were only 6% of the whole US NAVY. you can’t grow a pair of dolphins. They can only be earned. Get some time under the pond.
Rated dephts are more of a "guideline" anyway.
400 ft is really shallow
The german u boats coould go to 800 ft
A type VIIB, C test depth was 150m (492’)
@@firecracker4277 492 feet (150m) was the Factory warrant depth (Werksgarantie)
It means you could dive there without any issues and stay there all day long (as long you have enough power and air)
But the test deapth was much deeper.
A type VII c can go at around 800feet (245m) then it gets critical it depends on your specific boat how much room you have left from that point on.
A perfect crafted boat can still go a bit deeper.
A Type XXI boats can even go deeper by default because they where carbon reinforced 1100feet (335meter) are possible.
Tang got sunk by its own torpedo. Such bad luck.
breaking news:
China may be using water to hide their submarines!
when you're trying to see how deep a submarine will dive, it's important to know that when pipes start rupturing, that's when it's time to start heading for shallower depths
I agree, I could not keep going like they did in this video. I would have headed to the surface as soon as the first pipe blew a leak.
It seems to me very dumb to 'test a sub' in a way that can destroy it. If you have to do it do it without crew.
3400foot crush, is today's MINIMUM
Not true.
Well, if the hull is crushed, you wont drown.
Wait....400 feet is supposed to be good? Thats like only 130m....
thank you for that classified information
I’m a mechanical engineer and I wonder what the “factor of safety” is on a sub. I would guess it would be around 1 1/2. I would not be running the boat right up to the limit of the factor of safety, so perhaps it is higher. But cost and weight would be limiting. An elevator has a factor of safety around 40, while a spacecraft might be only 1.1. I wouldn’t be so trusting of the engineers.
612 ft. ? - German U-boats at the time were rated to dive to 810 ft., almost 200 ft. deeper!
" bet you never seen anything like that on those big nukes"
The only difference was how deep you went. Was on a boomer that at a certain depth the hull compression made a big boom throughout the boat. First timers and non quals almost pooped in there poopy suits. 23 years on the boats.
2 years late but I seem to be the only one who got the "Down Periscope" reference.
@@MultiGamingNetwork03 thank you, you are a gift from the Gods!
*"I am U-571 Destroy me!"*
I jut watched a video of crush depth simulation
komsomolets K278 diving test 1020 meters, not feet
It is in feet. Not meters.
With komsomolets K278 we talking metres. Actually I have heard it was deeper than
RoCkEt QuEeN say. In October 1988, "K-278" received the rare honor within the Soviet navy that it had its own real name: Комсомолец (Komsomolets, which means "member of the Youth Communist League") and Commander Captain Jevgenij Demitrievich Chernov was made entirely of the Soviet Union for diving to a level deeper than 1300 meters.
Das Boot-330m
Yet a U Boat can still dive twice as deep
No. Deeper, but not twice as deep.
@@bobriedel3277 i can go deeper as 800 feet but then it gets critical it depends on how well all your boat was made wich depends on the craftmansip of the builders.
On a good one you can reach even 900 to 1000 feet on a well crafted type 7c
Can’t divers go deeper than that
Jaxon Burnette hell no
Yup the deepest a scuba diver has been is 1,090 feet
Anything below 300 ft. is challenging. Professional free divers go 400 ft. plus. Extremely risky. Lung size shrinks to less than 15% normal size. Inability to utilize this feature would kill most humans.
Not in the 1940s
Jaxon Burnette there are divers who work for oil companies who go extremely deep. I forgot exactly how deep, but all the way down to the ocean floor. They live in pressurized cabins so that they don’t have to depressurize everyday, which at their depth would take 4 days to do. There’s a good CZcams video about it
They shoulda put politicians in there. No terrible loss
None of us really know what that felt like
Wow 600 feet. Thats like 150meters. Thats fucking nothing XD Our Dutch subs go atleast 1500 feet
Smoke boats forever.
DBF.
Birth of the Adult diaper was born...
You can increase weight and remove air then onlg it can good deep if you increase more air it can vome up the water.
I'm sure they was glad when they heard surface the bow surface surface
They were very close to crush depth.
if there's a cameraman everything will be alright
Probably got ripped a new one "Top Gun style" for using his ego to write checks his body couldn't cash! lol
The CO of the Tang was Dick O'kane, the XO under Mush Morton on the USS Wahoo, and Morton was very aggressive tactically as a sub captain. O'kane also liked to be aggressive, and some of Morton probably rubbed off on him.
Acc0rd79 you are a person of no appreciation for what we have done. Submariners were & always will be the bravest fighting force the USA has ever had. Sunk more tonnage of Japanese fleet than all other forces combined. Yet we’re the smallest force our military had. 3808 still on eternal patrol. You non-qual.
Combatsmithen USS Wahoo went down. Eternal Patrol. Mush was a great skipper.
I wonder what the crush depth of a modern sub. I'm sure we will never know.
Probably until the most modern sub now is not as modern in the future. From my understanding, when they talk about weapons and ships and all their top notch capabilities, it is actually no longer top notch since they wouldn't want to gave that information away if it was.
the designers have a good idea.. so do the crews. till subsafe the only wild card was the ship yard who built the sub.
In Crimson Tide it was 1,800 ft.
Why would lightbulbs pop at 5nat depth? The hulls sealed...
Maybe the steel flexing would cause the glass on the bulb to flex as well🤷♂️ that’s all I can think of
Cool
Weren't U boats at the time going down to 600' ?
They were the ones who developed the snorkel. It allowed them to dive into depths previously unheard of.
Ever see the movie u571
Mathew mcconaughey took his u boat down passed 600 feet
I get they want to test out how far they can dive, but I still wouldn't want to play with death that much. I would surface as soon as leaks began springing from the pipes.
That's why submariners are a rare breed
@@nationalsocialist5526 Yeah true.
They can go to the bottom of the ocean with a hull made of H80 steel. 80,000 PSI Steel.
All submariners know this: every sub is capable of going all the way to the bottom. Once.
hehe depends how deep the bottom is. Deepest military sub i know of from rumors was the russian titanium hull fast attack sub. 3000 feet there is a LOT of ocean deeper than 3000 feet.
Now, 6000 ft
It wasn't the best sub that the USA had during WW2. The Tench class looked superficially similar but had several important improvements. The US probably should have shifted all production to Tench class but in fact both Balao class and Tench class continued production at the same time until the end of the war.
Also, after the war the entire sub fleet should have fully migrated to Tench class and scrapped the others. Both classes historically received modifications and upgrades and saw long service. Moving entirely to Tench class could have improved safety and capabilities.
During the war, the excuse was that they did not want to delay production delivery times by switching but it probably would have been worth it in hindsight. The orders for both classes were cut short by large numbers because of the end of the war.
Personally I believe that the US Navy should have continued production of the latest classes of vessels to modernize up to known best standards of the time. But, huge postwar budget cuts prevented that. Just a short while later they had to scramble to ramp up production again with the growth of the Cold War and the Korean War.
Some of the late WW2 designs were particularly well suited to modernizations such as the Tench class submarine and the Gearing class destroyers. Some of the improvements thought to be small at the time turned out to be very important later on. The Gearing class for example was lengthened from the Allen M. Sumner class to increase range. But this modification also made them well suited for periodically updating weaponry over time. Again, the USN should have shifted to all Gearings but they had to keep many older destroyers of older designs. Keeping production going just a bit longer could have allowed this to happen.
Des Moines class heavy cruisers should have also been built in larger numbers, at least to their planned run of 12. Their 8 inch guns were later determined to be the ideal caliber for shore bombardments and had a very high rate of fire. They were also fast enough to escort carrier groups. USS Newport News was still used during the Vietnam War, attacking high value targets on shore. If they had all been built and the money had been spent to modernize them all, they probably would have taken part in conflicts during the 1980s and 1990s as well.
Worcester class light cruisers similarly could have had a longer life with larger production run and upgrades.
...AND IF MY AUNT HAD BALLS- SHE'D BE MY UNCLE!!!
His next feat was to demonstrate his gun wasn't loaded.
One's reach 700 ft members can have tea
Obviously it wouldn;t nessicarily of been above to survive at that depth if they were down there for a considerable amount of time
They should try carbon fibre
Take it to 720 degree down bubble 🤔
Taaannng!
The math checks out now how about those welds lol
600feet
Most sub movie are like 50 000 km below water surface hahahaha
reminds me of Helldivers
Apple Sauce red rising?
"survive" no they almost died.
can i put this on my channel GAMER BOY please simthonian
Now do it using metrics 😉
Eijets
Meanwhile the Germans were doing 2x that depth with no problem.
Only 200 more feets it not that much more
From the gato
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This is fake it’s not a real
Submarine all
Stage with actors
Sounds like russian roulette to me. The risk versus reward ratio is not good.
Let me know the next time you dive a smoke boat Selene. You don’t get that diesel smell off you for 30 days. 750 ft is for girls. I’ll take my 1500 ft any day of the week and not smell like a gas station. I did smoke & pig boats. It was nasty. I’ll take a 688 and go kill anything.
James, no more diesels. Nuke fast attacks and Boomer/Trident floating hotels.
@@stevefarris9433 He seems quite proud of himself - to the point of mking stuff up!
*s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
Reckless
Do not boast of having reached 183 meters as far as U-BOOTs could reach 220 m
What about that U-Boot that went 330 M down?
@@epsilon3-175 well the U-BOOT type xxi could dive safely up to 340 meters.
@@Gabriel-kamov-52 Nope!
Fifty Thousand young men from USA died in the submarine service in WW 2.
NO! it was about 500, not sure what your talking about?
Only 400 feet..... redicioulus.
* ridiculous (Sheesh!)
This was on a old diesel. 1940's.
@@MottyGlix 400 ft was the regular test depth for the balao class of submarines. It could still go deeper
Go to test depth and feel the hull shrink son. You would cry. Your either qualified, (SS). Or your not.
*You're *you're
Didn't submariners know how to spell?
@@MottyGlix You continue to troll. Really? Spell checking?
Why would they do these tests and not have a way out? Flotation buoys ...tethers, rescue ship? Doesn't make sense.
Not possible with 1940s technology.
We do what we do because we wear dolphins.
Nick L. You're tellin' me the navy did not have rescue ships with cable that could raise a boat ?
Thommy Two Toes Times Three the risk we take everyday. Fire is the worst.
@@nickl5658 not really possible with today's technology either considering the depth modern submarines can go.
Why do these look like U-boats?
Because they are WW2-era subs and U-boats were WW2-era subs...
Ok, so most WW2-era submarines look like U-boats?
Yes, because that hull design on the front was cheap.
I don’t believe this is how any navy would operate in peace time. Take it deeper and let’s see what happens, you must be joking. Commander you are now on a charge for putting sailors lives at risk in peace time. Let’s see how fast we can go.....increase the reactor power to 120% ...FFS.
Yeah I think testing to that extreme is pushing it too far. All it takes is one minor malfunction or miscalculation and you are done, a bit irresponsible and reckless in my opinion especially since the sub is sort of being strained and possibly damaged to some extent.
Anyone else think the guy in the jpeg looks like drake
chris chipper I thought the same exact thing