M48 Chaparral MIM-72A Missile System
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- The MIM-72A/M48 Chaparral was an American self-propelled surface-to-air missile system based on the AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missile system. The launcher is based on the M113 family of vehicles. It entered service with the United States Army and the United States Marine Corps in 1969 and was phased out between 1990 and 1998. It was intended to be used along with the M163 VADS, the Vulcan ADS covering short-range short-time engagements, and the Chaparral for longer range use.
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I see you used my video of a bad missile upload . I also had another video of a good missile upload you should have used so it didn't look like a bunch of stooges doing it . It is also on my channel - Woodaddy3 .
woodaddy3 you don’t look like a bunch of stooges lol. But I have subbed and pinned your comment so people can visit
@@_Matsimus_ that wasn't my squad , my squad video is this one : czcams.com/video/lHmKDKpsLlk/video.html
I was a Chaparral missile crewman in 1970-72 stationed in Spangdahlem, Germany. This brings back a lot of memories.
I worked on the system a 24 / Nov /.20 , I was in Korea in 74 / 75 the damn things were accurate when you could get them to work
What was your MOS? I am currently a 14p (former 38b) in ansbach Germany 5-4 Ada. Before, 14p all were 14s (avenger operator). The difference between 14p and 14s is 14p know c ram / phalanx systems in addition to stinger MANPADS and avenger. I am aware 14m were MANPADS only, 14r were linebacker operators. So I was wondering what chaparral operators were.
I was a missile crewman from 81 to 84@ Ft. Polk, La. (Black Diamonds)
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16 Papa was Chaparral. I was a 16P from 1990 to 92. At the time, a 16S was a Stinger crewman, before the Avenger. 16J was the FAAR radar operator. 16T was Patriot. I 'think' 16H was Hawk missle, but that was on its way out. When the 14 series starting coming online, I became a 14R on a BSFV, not Linebacker. They didn't exist at that time. The 16S transitioned to 14S, 16J became 14J with a new radar. I served as a 16R Vulcan gunner from 1993 to 1994, until Fort Riley got BSFVs. I didn't see an actual Linebacker until 2002, when I got to Fort Hood. Most 14R guys were only on BSFVs. A lot of us became 19D around January 2005. 11:26
When I served with the U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division (1983-1986) I remember seeing the Chaparral and the Vulcan on maneuvers with us while down range for training.
As a former Chap' crew member, this video brought back some fond, and some not so fond memories... thanks for sharing...
I was drafted and my job was a 27F 20 which meant I was the electronic repair man on the Vulcan and the chaparral, the first missiles used gave off a Very dense white plume of smoke affectively targeting the launcher, they use these missiles for training, an aircraft could see exactly where the missile was launched from the air and that was quickly corrected, also a slightly larger motor was installed to give it the extra boost needed from being launched from the ground. I heard that larger motor was adopted for all used in aircraft as well, giving it a longer range for air to air.
Exercício relâmpago caralho!!! que frio que estava nessa noite .
The Aim-7 Sparrow also is pretty versatile and used on Ships. It even has a limited surface to surface capability.
There is a land based version of the sparrow too, made in Italy.
We seriously need a new intermediate range SAM.
MEADS + SkyCeptor
Well it's kind of assumed that the nation with TWO of the largest air forces in the world would be able to rely on its aircraft for air defense instead of SAMs. It might be fallacious thinking to assume that you have enough men, aircraft, facilities, and fuel to maintain constant air combat patrols for the entirely of a ground war, but if anyone afford such thoughts, its the US.
you would be correct. US operations work by first ensuring air superiority before normal operation by "kicking in the door" Destroying Radar instilations, SAMs, and enemy air feilds. the state of enemy air forces is assumed to be crippled to the point where normal ACPs and interceptions of other enemy aircraft would work well and outmode the need for intermediate SAM.
well you guy gona need them soon , china gona over take you in economy and they army gona get shitload of fund soon if anyone that can out field weapon it the chinese and truth me better prepare then wait for war then develop weapon ( PS i hate china but let face the true , the chinese gona out take america soon and they gona bully the shit out of everyone live near them :( either we have to united and counter them or gona get fuk by them soon )
inoue jerry If a war with China erupts the US will shift from peacetime production to wartime production mode and start employing our unemployed citizens as a rapid workforce. We would also embargo Chinese goods and prohibit business with them and both countries would get into an economic war where the US would try to pressure NATO/EU to also block trade and China would do the same with BRICS.
A conflict with China would be very one sided as their military would have no way to reliably strike the US Mainland (outside of a nuke strike which would be game over for everyone) while the US carrier groups and bases could strike the Chinese mainland until they were destroyed. A conflict with china would basically be naval battles in the western Pacific and negotiations with other countries to get involved.
Awesome video! I greatly appreciate the accumulation of information and neat US Army throwback video.
I was a Chaparral crewman in the mid 1970s.
Imagine how deadly an upgraded version with a SAM version if the AIM-9X would be.
Or an AMRAAM.
+jmferr2011+ dunno if you can fit those on the existing launch rails.
jmferr2011 It's called NASAMS 2 cuz they use AMRAAM-C series
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The new Rolling Frame missile....
Hits fast, far and self contained.....
If it will bolt down to the deck of a boat, it should bolt down to the back of a track as well......
And it's already designed to launch from the ground to air envelope as a close point defense weapon system.....
@@jmferr2011 NASAMS will make your wish true... Imagine 5 AMRAAM mounted on a Humvee or a truck....
We should mount modernized versions of these on the Bradley’s, replace the 20mm with the Vulcan and the TOW launchers with SAMs. Call the Pentagon I came up with their latest interim!
Ahhhhh
The good old days of world in conflict
You know it actually seems pretty good knowing that large conflicts will hopefully not be known to the kids of today
Won’t be known as in not happening during their lifetime
I was born in a Chap battery, 3rd Battalion, 61st ADA. 3rd AD, Budingen Germany. 76 to 79. A little known fact is that Chap crews were also trained on Redeye Shoulder fired SAMs, the predecessor to Stinger. Each Battery had a basic load of Redeye. I fired a Redeye in Todendorf and a Chap in Crete. Great memories. For those that were there, do you remember the unannounced alerts at 2 in the morning during the winter months, riding in the cab in a snow storm with no windshield, top or heater? Fun stuff. LOL
I still cant get warm 5/5 ADA 2nd Inf. camp Stanley Korea 90'-91' Winters were brutal
I was a crew chief (sgt-E5 ) on a vulcan, super impressive weapon system in '69-70😁😁😁
At first I was like: That's a good idea, getting the operators away from what will be a highly-attacked target.
But then I was all: Oh, they're just getting away from the poor doomed bastard that has to sit right in the middle of the bullseye.
Love this channel, keep up the good work!
Outstanding - keep up the good work Matt :)
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My ears.
Another brilliant video Mat!
I am reading the Jack Reacher book "Night School" which features this machine and found your video showing it in action, Brilliant!
Great presentation
Interesting to see the US Chaparral which was the equivelant of the UK Rapier. Having these systems on tracks was a vast improvement in setup time compared with trailer mounted versions which couldn't prepare to fire as quickly. After Stinger Post came along, they began phasing out these heavy and complicated solutions. BTW, the NATO countries with HAWK went straight on to Stinger Post and never fielded a tracked system like Chaparral. Keep up the good work eh.
love all your vids keep making um
Always find it memorizing to watch these track an aircraft before firing, worth every penny.
Different d o c t r I n e
7:20 that wonderful Baaaaaaarrrrrrrt ! sound effect when much dakka goes down range . Gork and Mork would be pleased.
I was a chap mechanic in the late 80's and early 90's. They were being phased out and replaced with the avenger.
Bringing back Toy Soldiers: Cold War vibes with this one
I was a 16 Poppa chaparral missile crewman/ red eye gunner 4/61st Ada battalion 4th infantry division Vietnam era
It was also available in a towed and stationary variant.
Greetings. I was Chap mechanic, also FAAR repair qualified. I respectfully take exception to, at least, one of your statements in this vid. First, I appreciate your effort. Even though, technically, the system has been decommissioned from US service, there is certain obligation, on me. So, minding my Oath, there are certain things I cannot speak. I listened several times to make sure I was not mis-hearing you. At 5min-08/09 seconds you, the narrator, state that the updated golf round had a range of 30k. That statement/claim is patently incorrect. You claim/mention, the bird is solid fueled. That is correct. However, there are two solid propellant fuel stages. The first just gives her a kick, off the rail. Once clear, a second fuel boosts her into chasing flight. I felt compelled to speak up on this. Under nobody's mystery would the thing do 30,000. It, simply, did/does not have space within for a solid or liquid fuel to propel it anywhere near such distance. Cheers.
Was a 24N, Chap maint. 4/61 ADA 4th division, Ft. Carson. 82-85. was a great system.
The Squad performing the Crew Drill in the Video was from the 3rd Platoon, B Btry/ 3-44 ADA, stationed at Ramstein AB, FRG around 1989. I was Platoon Leader of 4th Platoon, later Battery XO. We were practicing from our annual crew drill competition and live fire exercise, held on the island of Crete.
The Chap was a decent weapon system, only hampered by its prime mover. Most were Vietnam era weapons carriers, underpowered for such a heavy launcher. The max road speed we ever got from our tracks was about 15 to 19mph. The FLIR improved target acquisition greatly, but the lack of a battery level Tactical radar limited its full potential.
There were a number of plans to upgrade Chap, putting the launcher on the MLRS chassis and making the turret remote operated.
That was my footage from Ramstein . I was in 3rd Platoon and I have another video on my channel of a good missile upload and an emplacement drill . My channel is Woodaddy3 , you should go on it and subscribe . Is this Lt. Darby ? I was Specialist Leviner with Ssgt James squad . This was Ssgt Stillwell squad and they came in dead last . We came in 2nd that year in Crete and I got to fire . I also have a group on Facebook called , U.S. Army Air Defense - Chaparral / Vulcan / Stinger with lots of pictures and some videos .
We had the A2's had mine up to 50 mph took awhile, down hill but yes under powered
Got to love cloud punchers
My 3rd video today after waking up.
And I love it!
Was watching this Sidewinder derivative on yt his year self. And i knew this system years now.
I served 2 years on the Chaparral. B 2/2 31st Brigade1990 to 1992. We had the latest version where the gunner had a tv screen that would let the gunner pick a target the weapon would automatically track. Loading those missiles was a back breaker.
You're talking about the FLIR "Forward Looking Infrared Radar" system. It was deployed to line units while I was stationed in Germany, A Battery 2/60th ADA in '85. The FLIR was a passive radar system that gave the Chapparal all weather and nighttime capability. It was so sensitive that when I was receiving training on the maintenance of it at Ramstein Air Base, we were tracking aircraft landing and takinf off, It was able to show the aircraft's wing markings on the screen in the gunner's compartment.
@@johnconaway129 Good times I served in C Btry 1/59 Wackhiem ' 85 - 86, went to the Ramstein Air Show in November ? ?
@@johnconaway129 I was stationed with B Btry 2/60 ADA at Ramstein 85 to 89 as a Chap . The video of the crew drill was shot by me and the full video is on my channel , Woodaddy3 . I also have one of an emplacement drill and a good crew drill , this was a bad crew drill . I got to fire my last year in Crete 1989 , came in 2nd . I also have a group on Facebook called U.S. Army Air Defense - Chaparral / Vulcan / Stinger with lots of pictures and some videos . You could probably find some of your buddies from A Battery . Also , don't forget to checkout my You Tube channel and subscribe .
I was in A battery 2/2 31 st at the same time frame.😅
I served in 2/2 HQ Battery until being sent to C Battery from 1988-1990
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We can send a man to the moon but we still haven't figured out how to have a system reload missiles without human help.
Awesome
All I got a say is
. That's an amazing amry tank!
Because these use passive homing they can be a nasty surprise.
They had a lot of transmission and power unit problems , operation tazvall fort Hunter Liggett 1979 , we had 4 and those guys would blow a transmission every Friday, I had to stay and fix it to maintain readiness.
Just for comparison the RBS 70 which is a three men portable system had a range of 5 km with 3 km in altitude when it came and the latest missile (Bolide) has a range of 8 km and 5 km in height.
That system has always been all aspect though and served concurrently with the Redye in the Swedish Army.
I wonder why they changed to the smaller manpad seeker over the original Sidewinder one? They have done the same with the RAM, which uses a Stinger seeker on the Sidewinder sized missile.
If I´m not mistaken it´s the annual tests performed by the Portuguese Army in Leiria region.
Sim. Exercício ''Neptuno'' 2013. Um grande tiro do Sold Ivo Pereira da BtrAAA
Wow...I remember seeing this as a fine scale model kit from AFV club M730A1 at 1/35 scale.....old school cool and unique air defense.
Max..please do a review on the Canadian ADATS system or even the proposed SHORAD Stryker armed with stingers or AI3s on one side and longbow hellfire missiles on the other side of the turret.
nice
You put a picture of 3rd LAAD Bn in the video...whoa, I didn't know anyone knew we existed.
Oooooh that sound
I was a Senior Gunner on the Chaparral and was one of the top rated in USAREUR. When the missile launched it left a smoke trail from the weapons system all the way to target leaving no doubt where it was fired from! I'm sure in combat the Senior gunner would not have a very long life.
Later missiles had smokeless motors. I've saw both kinds in action and the smokeless were hard to detect (probably harder to detect than a stinger).
It was figured less than 3 Min
Please do S-300/S-400 russian!!!😀😀😀
C'mon Mr.Matsimus please do S-300/S-400 russian!!!!!👍
C'mon mate!!!!!👍👍
might as well add whats known about the S-500 Prometey
Include the videos where they fail to ignite properly.
Failer95 we r talking about s400 not tomahawks
blasting those migs right out of the sky.
“Any facts in this video are my opinion” haha.. points to you for being honest about it
The M48 Chaparral anti-aircraft system can't be fired on the move it will damage the erect retract system.
I participated in scraping sgt.york and one of last 16Papa mos soldiers Ft.bliss
Yo Matsimus, just saw your post pop up!
im starting to think the cold war woulda been bad but also pretty funny.
both sides had a ton of high tech weapons that had huge problems or didnt work at all really.
I literally was watching this same promotional video yesterday. And you're last up load you shadowed me too. You're stalking me, man. what's up? a O..O XD
Not suprised the aim 9 could be launched from the ground its a brilliantly simple and self contained package
Too bad we don't use this anymore. If the missiles were upgraded to aim -9x tech it would probably be deadly.
I wish i could go back and join the military.
that Chaparral and the one firing outside of the video shot are Portuguese ones
3:32 *_"directly derivatived"_* 😂😂
Thats Royal Marine level word fuckery Matsimus mate 😂😂
Nice video Matmus can u make a video on sniper rifle
(Watches this on toilet)
Grab a meme on the go yup
Could you maybe do a video about MRSI artillery?
Matsimus, do one on the Mig 25
Can you do a video on the Type-99A2 or the DF-26 or DF-21D anti aircraft carrier missiles?
Philco-Ford was always a subcontractor from the start of the Sidewinder program. They also got to develop the Air Force line of sidewinders the E/J/P variants
do a talk on the t-72 gear box and differential! tank transmissions!
Have a look at the ADATS system since your in the Canadian Army now.
you should do a video on the NASAMS 2
A little surprised to see three crewmen loading the missile. Minimum was 4 on the ground and squad leader on the launching station.
I served just under 21 years in the US Army and all of it was ADA. The "Chap" as we called was my first job that lasted nearly 10 years. I can say that the Army royally screwed up when they got rid of the Chap and later the MANPADS Stinger (my second job). That left critical sites undefended except for HIMAD systems like Hawk and Patriot. The FAAR system you mention was indeed a piece of crap and if the Army brought back the Chap and paired it with the current Sentinel radar, they would have a winning combination. Yes the Chap was fired in anger once during Desert Shield/Storm when a MRCA Tornado was shot down because it did not have the correct IFF codes. Eventhough the Chap was a very good system, nothing is more dangerous on the battlefield that two teenagers and a Hummer load of Stinger missiles. They can hide nearly anywhere and cause great damage to an enemy. Hiding is something the Chap could not do. Trust me, we tried.
MOS 16-P Chaparral/RedEye. I started out on the Chaparral and felt it would have been suicide in combat only being able to shoot after the target has passed. That big plexiglass canopy reflects the sun really well giving away your position . I switched over to RedEye feeling I could hid under a rock and be damn near invisible from the air . I ETS before Stingers arrived .
heard of F15 shot at, but missed during Desert Storm, but I was in Korea at the time. yes the Chap if harder to hide even camoed up the mount sticks out like a becon. 16P F Btry 5/5 ADA 90'-91' B Btry 3/2 ADA 91'-93' First to fire
*Laughts in Tunguska M1*
Hawk 6.2.0.1 You mean "Laughs while sitting in front of your computer/phone"
Caboose Someone is being smart ehh ;)
They really aren't comparable, esp. with the M48 being a much older system. The US has never really invested much in the way of mobile air defense systems, unlike the Russians. We tend to rely on air superiority/supremacy and assume that we'll always have it so we rely on more basic systems when compared to the Russians. Personally, I feel that this is a mistake and we need to invest more in mobile air defense systems just in case we can't achieve air superiority/supremacy or at the very least to cover us until we do control the air since a near peer opponent might not be so kind as to just let us control the skies.
Matsimus please do the Australian bushmaster pmv
I worked on FAAR that was attached to chaps and vulcans or were they attached to us? can you do a FAAR vid.
Mmmmmmmm......M548.....what a PIG she was.....so glad we transitioned to the M992
Laughing so hard when i see those guys knocking the nose covers off and putting them back on, reminds me a few years ago in the USAF i would deliver AIM-9M's to the A-10's on the flight line and you would be looking in you're rear view mirror and in the street you see one of you're missle's nose covers just bouncing around in the street behind you as you are driving away like: God damn it!!! lol
Flash back at 5:28 x'D
im waiting for its Brother, the Hawk and NASAMS
Chaparral has been added to War Thunder in this recent update
Chaparral... Chaparral?!.... High Chaparral ;)
Its no secret the US Air Defense is lacking in short-mid range protection because of our reliance on complete Air Superiority (which honestly has worked so far). From everything I'm hearing right now from my weapon procurement friends, the US military wants to wait until they have laser weapons perfected that allow for multiple systems to target at different ranges from one chassis to allow for better accuracy and negate the countermeasures of targets. The problem right now is miniaturization and a power supply to allow a medium size chassis to carry it. They are also testing energy manpaads but that is probably going to take a long time to get right due to how grunts treat equipment in the field and how finicky lasers are.
I also know the US military is currently trying to upgrade/buy some Strykers for SAM duty as a limited stop gap until the laser platform is ready.
This Chaparral Anti Aircraft missiles or anti aircraft gun is effective in circumstances of low altitude flying attacking warplanes
The various range anti aircraft missiles become ineffective in circumstances of low altitude flying attacking warplanes , under such circumstances this Chaparral Anti Aircraft air defense is very effective .
ok for shooting down choppers I guess.
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You have a good point and I consider to use land base modified version of the AIM-120 and add the Chaparral the capability to launch ANY kind of AA missile in the inventory.
My favorite is the Nike Hercules ADA weapon system. "They're like a government employee: they don't work and you can't fire them."
Or Canadian ADATS ? anti tank/aircraft ... what could be more cool than that :D
oH GOODY ANOTHER GAVIN variant...dood gavin variants are so weird...I think they also built like a...pseudo STUG/arty variant of the M113 with a fixed 105mm gun with like rly high gun elevation
You should give a look to the AMX Roland then
Abrams Air Ground Defense System =D
Vulcan be all: Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt.
Hey Mat, im an amateur military historian so i know a few things mainly Cold War and Modern military vehicles and weapons systems, if you need to talk or discuss something im a member of your discord
like the disclaimer Matsimus, Have the trolls been attacking you ?
Not sure I'd like to be the Gunner with the "up close and personal" view of the rocket motor going past on the other side of the plexiglass. :)
The best part of being the gunner is sitting in a small air conditioned box out in the desert (MacGregor Range) while everyone else is sweating in the hot southern New Mexico sun.
Never got to fire one myself, was a 24N. All the 16P gunners I knew said it was a huge rush firing one. And yes the HVAC cooled gunner's compartment was a huge perk lol.
@@johncarpenter5747 but most of the AC didnt work for s*** at Macgregor and the heater kinda worked
A friend had one go off as it left the rail pepper the canopy and scared the hell out of evey one
Regarding other nations still using the Chaparral system, I'm not sure that it's so much because of capability as much as cost and availability. Most likely, many of the nations that still use this system do so because they can't afford any better and/or were given to them or sold to them for dirt cheap.
This was a weapons system developed in the late 60s during thw Vietnam War. Although the launch platform was plagued with shortcomings, the missile itself was highly effective and lethal.
Agreed (John Conaway), the Chapparal was a highly effective missile at the end of it's U.S. service life. They NM Army Guard operated the last ones until 1997 where they were given/sold to the South Koreans. In practice, the latest missiles had about an 85-90% hit effectiveness rate while shooting practice targets and drones at White Sands Missle Range (assuming the missiles were fired within their proper engagement parameters).
The vehicle chassis is what rendered them obsolete for the most part. The chassis were relatively fragile and they no longer had spare parts. The Avenger is similar in concept and the turrent is very similar in design. There were no plans to upgrade the platform to the M-1 Abrams chassis and the Linebacker was being fielded at the time.
If used in a stationary defense role, they would probably still be pretty formidable even today. The U.S. stopped innovating in Air Defense because there hasn't really been a conflict where an adversary has posed a significant air threat.
If I remember correctly, the following were the effectiveness against aircraft in 1997: 1. Patriot Missile Pac II variant ~90%, 2. Chapparal G variant ~85-90%, 3. Stinger missile ~75-83%, 4. Hawk missile 3rd gen. ~73%, 5. Roland missile ~60-70%, 6. Redeye missile ~35-50%.
@@TB0321 I worked the ADATS program that would have replaced both Vulcan and Chap. I was an instructor at Bliss and a tester of all the systems from the west that wanted to participate in the evaluations, Rapier, Liberty Roland, ADATS and a few others. Sgt York was cancelled just a few years before.
I had no idea that there is actual crew member in that turret
Same, a bit like the more recent Avenger SAM system.
Can you tell about (BM-13) please!!!!
Can you rewiev the finnish RK family
Next time the Roland AA
According to Wikipedia, the Chaparral system shot down only one plane in combat in its history - a Syrian mig-17 in 1974
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