A History of Fire Emblem Heroes' Distant Counter Curse
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That Sothis refine had people throwin' all kinda hands
As a Sothis fan, I was mad 😠
It wasn’t just the refine, it was also the very disappointing remix.
@@Cinderace836 Also as a Sothis enjoyer, I was more than mad
@@ManuelKoegler ikr 😞
Both Sothis refines. W! Sothis was terrible too. I hope H! Sothis does not meet the same fate
Back in the day, if your weapon says "Can counter attacks regardless of range", the hero might as well just enlist into a retirement home.
(I hope Takumi gets an attuned form or something. He used to be best unit in the game, he's one of my favorite characters, and I wanna see him shine.)
i never really thought about it, but for some reason hearing "Dark Mystletainn Spiral Bonfire spam" really spoke to me that, this game makes no sense to anyone else-
You scoundrel!
Dark Mystleyainn Spiral Bonfire sounds like something an anime character would shout as aj attack name
@@baxterbruce9827 like Owain?
Fjorm might of gotten out of that refine batch relatively unscathed, but she did have that drama with her remix skill to the point that they had to change what skill she got as part of her remix in a future update, so I wouldn't say she dodged the DC curse, just got it in a different form.
She dodged her fatal disease curse that took all her luck away already 😂
Yeah. Idk what intsys was cooking when they gave her penalty neutralization and then throwing a Unity skill on her kit for no reason 😭
@@marqkc The Unity skill came first, so my theory as to why this happened always has been that IS just straight up forgot they even gave her Unity for her remix.
I have no idea why else they'd give her that. It's just a crazy moment in FEH's history.
At least they did have a refine. poor Reinhardt still has nothing,
Sothis' refine and remix is so frustrating.
Sothis is a LIMITED Mythic character. The fact she only ever shows up when IS feels like having her on the Legendary/Mythic/Emblem banners means she is now a huge detriment to to any banner she's on. All they had to do was give her a solid niche as Defense Mythic to help out her AI AR team team but because she's permanent 5 dollar starter pack she can't be too good apparently because she would make the game modes too easy for the 10 beginners the game gets every month who are even willing to spend some money.
In the same vein the base Ragnell refine falls under "Why did they even bother?" category because unless you just love RD Ike a lot there's zero reason to ever pull on red on Legendary/Mythic/Emblem banners if he's on them.
The book OC freebies also suffer from mediocre refines and remixes which I'm sure tank the already poor sales of the Legendary/Mythic/Emblem banners. I think only Peony is fine because she's a dancer and a flyer so she's already a net benefit to almost any team. It's just hilarious how often IS shoots themselves in the foot.
I remember being excited for Ragnell and Alondite getting refines. Then I saw them and was like "that's it?"
Imagine if Ryoma had a new alt that had "Astra" as a B Skill and it's basically potent with FIVE ATTACKS
That would be massive, they should do it (I'm biased I just love Ryoma)
Honestly sounds easy enough, just give him a braves for quads and a PRF potent that grants him the fifth hit
What I also found funny back then on how IS handled DC units was until the Anniversary Xander and Camus never got a re-run GHB. Most likely because they were free and had DC. I remember how the FEH channel back then made it a big deal when announcing their re-runs. Oh and FEH saying "Camoo".
That's how you pronounce Camus, Americans talking shit about how other languages pronounce words when you are the only first world country that's population mostly doesn't speak two languages is the height of comedy.
@@philbuttler3427Don’t need to learn any language. America is one of the largest countries by land mass and population in the world. Most countries are in very close proximity to each other which is not the case with America. We have 3 major counties in North America and 2 of them are predominantly English speaking. Being the most powerful and influential nation means that other nations bend over backwards to learn English and beg our nation for protection, even yours. In conclusion, GOML.
@@philbuttler3427European countries acting so high and mighty about needing to learn another language just to talk to somebody in a country 30 minutes away 🤮
Don’t gotta learn anything besides English, you Europeans would probably learn it to talk with us anyways
Nowi basically got destroyed and then a year or so later we were getting DC weapons with 4+ effects I love how IS makes refines that almost immediately become outdated from the word go.
I love distant counter its so funny
You should do a video about when refines outshined the updates new banner heroes. An example would be when Bectors refine outshined CYL4s debut, Bikes refine, Beliwood being better then 90% of PP cavs for the longest time, OG Celicas refine setting a standard for years, etc
Thing with Sothis was that she was suddenly really good for PVE maps, and could solo most if not all abyssal maps at the time. The weapon damage reduction made her often barely survive, and then Sirius+ would help to heal back up. Gave her dragon wrath 4 and she could even oneround in pvp, or deal heavy damage, which is a lot better than 0 damage at least, of course the tempo did also help guard effect where super common. Beside that attack/speed stack to give dragon wrath and Sirius+ an boost
Nothing can express my absoulte anger when I woke up on the 5th of September 2022 to install FEH update version 6.9.0 and discovering what they did to Mythic Sothis' refine...
Also the DC seals have made SP farming much faster for me !
Honestly, Distant Counter is very optimal and helpful if you hate being unable to counterattack the enemy who has two range.
I'm running it on characters like Chloe and Lapis.
Distant counter on a weapon was a curse for a long time
Then emblem ike came along
And before him, Brave Dimtri's refine
The Sothis refine was a big meme for some time.
I remember loving OG Ike who is my favorite character and then slowly seeing other with DC getting extra stuff leaving Ike behind even after the refine 😢
As a Priam fan (yes, we exist), his prf weapon is incredibly frustrating because of how fast he was made irrelevant in the banner (never irrelevant in my heart). A penalty on the opponent’s Atk/Def (completely useless if the enemy has Unity, Freyr on their team, Harsh Command, Odd/Even Recovery… you get the point) and Def+3. That’s it. One of the most powerful and absolutely monstrous units in Awakening and he was outclassed by the GHB unit on the same banner. I’m scared his weapon refine will be next to nothing when it comes out, he really doesn’t deserve being shafted like that.
I have like 7 priams because i loved him so much i used all my orbs. Then i never actually merged them or built him cuz i realized his weapon sucked so much ass, his biggest pro was being good fodder :')
The delay between skill and weapon for L.Ike and Fjorm would explain the disconnect seen. That and they were the prototypes for modern refine.
This touches on another thing: the shop pack curse considering B.Lyn, Sothis, maybe W.Sothis, and Black Knight.
Now if IS could remember the refine jail units as most have aged
I'm not even gonna try to deny it, DC refines are so trash it's a conditional Omni +1 when your Atk+Spd+Def+Res is greater than foe's Atk+Spd+Def+Res +30
The funny thing is we still don’t have a prf weapon with unconditional Close Counter.
Yo can we start a campaign to get the units that got a resplendent and no refines
Thoughts on Nowi’s refine for its time?
Can't wait for the potent counter
15:16 What unit is that? I did not understand
Feh is the only Fire Emblem game where having 1-2 range is bad
It's so disappointing to me that I finally had to let go of L!Grima and Sothis' weapons and replace them both with Dragon's Stone+ because that weapon just straight up outperforms them while still allowing them use of their prf skills. That was a blow to my pride, ngl. I hate not using a unit's unique tools... but if they don't cut it anymore, it is what it is. The two of them are much better now and have access to all sorts of tools that make them still viable threats, so we press forward regardless.
As for Shinon, I was orginally gonna skip refining him, but after seeing his refine, I'm really considering refining him just for that novelty of being the only dedicated Close Counter bow in the game (also I have like zero good PoR units otherwise).
I hope Mustafa gets a Distant Counter on the short axe.
You missed Freyja, but don't worry, I would've missed her too
Not mentioned but legendary roy was also fucked over by the dc refine curse; he got a *few* more effects than someone like sothis, but it was still majorly underwhelming
Boey and eventually shinon will be the only close counter weapon refine
Roy🥺
Somewhere In the beginning of FEH i wanted Hector as he was the main and i think only DC unit, but i got really unlucky while spending all my orbs. After farming the last available reward orbs at the time i still got him. Otherwise i would have ragequit it hurts to put so much just to lose it all to dumb gambling stuff. It was the last day with his banner also
I don't know how many orbs i used, but it was at least worth an spark, something which was not available back then. If not much more even
I only use it when leveling up and building my non ranged units
and here i thought ike's refine was one of the earlier refines
it feels strange how a dc banner with sothis of all charaters get the short end of the stick however my theory of why its so lacking is because you can supposedly buy her with feh pass and I suppose if they had a strong refine like for example stronger and true Dr, rewinds foes special and speeds up her own along with her new prf special it would cause 'problems' as for ike I think its usually due with his legendary having the same sword name so they basically made it simple and nerfed along with that I wouldn't say its 'buyable' like with sothis other than og ike's rep. i suppose the same with bk but he was what? Months a year or two before his came out after ike's?
The thing with DC at the moment is that to counter, you must first survive an attack from some of the current nukes.... good luck with that 😂
I really like Hardin but his weapon refine was sad
i feel like legendary m!corrins got the dc curse tbh
Sothis still has a chance to be good. No, not really through skill inheritance, there's not that much that can make that refine good.
I mean that there is still Duo Sothis who hasn't gotten her refine yet. So there is still hope for one good Sothis DC refine, though her refine is still ways off (I think, I don't have the best view on the order of refines).
But to be fair though, it feels like IS just doesn't like Sothis in general, since even the Winter Sothis refine (a weapon without DC) was not all that good (well, it was at least better than Mythic Sothis').
Please IS, just give us one really good Sothis Refine (And I'm definitely not saying that because I still use Duo Sothis in my main team, what are you insinuating?)!
Distant Counter is a mistake, both in Heroes and main series
Crazy how a God sucks. lol
I dunno the refines were fine though I think people just wanted the kitchen sink I still use mythic sothis
when the dc cursed happened, i got so mad, i deleted my +10 ike i was grinding for years.
Emblem Ike and Fallen Edelgard made up for it.