LIVE: Karen Read Trial | DAY 16 - AFTERNOON
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- Did Karen Read murder her boyfriend, Boston Police officer John O'Keefe, or is she the victim of a conspiracy to frame her for his death by the Canton Police Department in Massachusetts? This is the afternoon session of Day 16 of her trial.
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Welcome!
7:05 State’s Witness No. 40 - Kerry Roberts - Direct
40:45 State’s Witness No. 41 - Laura Sullivan - Direct
1:30:25 State’s Witness No. 41 - Laura Sullivan - Cross-Exam
1:32:30 State’s Witness No. 42 - Marietta Sullivan - Direct
2:03:20 State’s Witness No. 42 - Marietta Sullivan - Cross-Exam
2:04:05 State’s Witness No. 42 - Marietta Sullivan - Redirect
CONTEXT:
On the morning of January 29, 2022, John O'Keefe's body was found on a snowy lawn in front of the home of fellow police officer Brian Albert. The night before, he had gone to a bar with his girlfriend, Karen Read, as well as some friends and acquaintances, including Brian. Not long after, Karen was charged with John's murder, but her defense alleges that she is being framed by the group of people who met up at Brian's home after the bar closed. Trial begins Tuesday, April 16, 2024 with jury selection.
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#KarenRead #JusticeforJohnOKeefe #FreeKarenRead
My biggest conclusion from nearly 16 days of trial is that mostly everyone around John were some of the worst people imaginable and he deserved much better friends.
Absolutely, this 💯
Same thoughts. Be careful who you surround yourself with. The amount of drinking - with underage kids, to young adults to adults who have children and responsibilities. These were adults who were drinking and driving while a snow storm was coming. And going to an after hours party when you have kids at home. They don’t seem to know where there high school kids are - even though a major storm is starting. Just a recipe for bad things to happen. And I imagine the Aruba trip was just a lot a drinking even though children were there. I mean John being glassy- eyed and stumbling. My guess is Karen was the more sober, annoyed adult in that situation.
This poor woman(1st witness) is the ONLY person to express real emotion for J.Ok. Sorry for her.
Her emotions even felt more real to me than John's brother and sister.
Especially after Karen McCabe repeatedly used the words - guy in the snow, body in the snow, never saw a body, Karen threw herself on his body. Completely cold way to describe these events.
Kari did as well!! It seemed sincere
Carrie Roberts was credible, but she also never repeated what Jenn claimed was screamed repeatedly in the car.
She also countered a lot of Jenn’s other claims, like she noted that it was Jenn who said to go to Fairview, not KR’s
Exactly
I’m not even a jealous person, and I would’ve been jealous if I was Karen. All these women seem to have very close relationships with John and they seemed to even try to rub it in her face sometimes such as giving ex-girlfriend home addresses as a point of reference to get to, the house party that night. This is absolutely ridiculous. I really hope the jurors see and understand that. You can’t tell people to not judge these acts, but then give them information that is obviously going to make them judge that persons acts…..and probably do them as worse than they are because why would they be letting us into the trial if it wasn’t somewhat bad.
thank you, they are unreal. What's with everyone getting up to drive in a blizzard??? so weird....no way would people do that. No way. Especially with hangovers, they are far too active, too many butt dials when people were asleep.
I don't doubt that Karen has some crazy behavior, but she seemed to honestly try to socialize and be friendly with this group. She was an outsider. But she saw that John knew a lot of woman that he was very close with that Karen could never compete with (in the sense of having a close history with) and from the outside that can make you feel left out and less than.
Marietta Sullivan. What was the point of her testifying? Lally asked did you know who the defendant was or had you met her before? She responded: I knew who she was because she was sitting by the pool while I was talking with John earlier in the day but I had not met her. C’mon. We are not stupid. All these Canton women were in Aruba flirting with the godfather, “their support system” totally making Karen feel like an outsider. Marietta was gleeful at court testifying how awful Karen is - from a 2 minute encounter that happened 2 years ago. And I think John O’Keefe said “Calm Down” and Karen said “F You” to John not Marietta. But she involved herself. This is why I don’t have many female friends.
Definitely. I would be jealous too. They WANT her to be jealous. That’s the point. They want her to feel less than. They want to discredit her. The trial traumatizes her further. We are witnessing evil.
@cathykenefick3255 The coming back to involve yourself in a couples argument stood out to me. The way the other sister was talking I was thinking Karen had confronted her, but she was made to be the victim in that situation only after she inserted herself into back into it.
The thing is that if i would have to answer ”what is more likely; Karen backing in to John or a HUGE cover up?” I would answer the first. But if i had to answer ”Do you think there is even close to enough evidence to convict Karen?” It is a BIG FAT NO!!! Add the fact that her accusers seems like corrupt, shady and flat out bad people and I can not see any other result than a not guilty verdict. Why the hell was this brought to court!?! That also add to PRO Karen side.
That's what I thought at first... BUT, after I found out that 3 trained boxers and a retired police dog were in that house??? Colin probably started a fight with John and it got out of hand.... I don't think they thought he would die....that's when the cover-up started....if they saw her tire tracks they should have seen John laying in the yard
@@Manofthewhiteknife Hey, my point is that none of us should take such a narrow view at this unless we are actually involved. Jen seems like a fake B, but if she is telling the truth, which she knows if she does, you and I do not, she has the right to be a B. I can imagine a bunch of plausible scenarios. They mean NOTHING if they just comes from my or your mind. KR MIGHT be guilty as hell. Do I think so? HELL NO! Is it possible? HELL YES! Lets wait with the wild speculations with the scenarios. That is my 5-6 cents....
How horrible for John’s family and friends Justice for John 💙💙💙
THE best coverage. Thank you.
I gotta share the first time I did CPR on a person. It was my very first clinical when I was in EMT school and I basically only knew how to do CPR, how to administer oxygen, and how to take vital signs. My patient came into a standing room only emergency department waiting room grasping his chest. Luckily, they took him seriously and brought him right back for me to take his vitals. They were pretty normal at that time, although his heart rate was slightly on the high side but they still made room for him in the treatment area and it's a good thing they did!
He had been back there for a few minutes when the triage area told me they thought I was pretty good at taking vitals and to go help in the treatment area. I ended up caring for that same patient again and I was instructed to give him oxygen. I was just finishing setting up his oxygen, everyone else had left his room, and I told him that I wish I could give him something from pain but I was a student. He kept literally writhing in pain and I just had the worst feeling because I couldn't do anything for him so I was slow to leave the room.
Then I saw the weirdest thing I've ever seen on an ECG and it was a trace that looked just like a U. The patient looked right at me and something about his eyes and the ECG told me that this was an emergency. I was very new and couldn't remember that I was supposed to yell out, "Code blue!" (I was like one week into EMT school at the time.) So I just yelled, "Help!" really loudly and everyone came rushing over.
The monitor had not beeped so, had I not had a bad feeling about things and because I was also a student and wasn't required to rush off and tend to other patients, I was there to see this merely 40-year-old man have what is colloquially-called a widow-maker heart attack, which is a blockage of the left coronary artery.
So after I saw that people were running towards the room, I ran back to the patient and nurses were yelling behind me, "CPR!" I wish I would have taken my stethoscope from off of my neck first but I didn't and I immediately started CPR only a week after I had learned how to do it for the first time in my life. I did completely ignore everything around me for the most part and just kept thinking of that song Stayin' Alive and putting the entire force of my body into those chest compressions. During that time, the nurses told me that I was doing good CPR and I would like to extend that same affirmation to everyone who did CPR on John. Good CPR!
I probably was only doing compressions for maybe a minute but time does really become pretty irrelevant. A doctor came in and told me to step back for the moment, I did, and he gave our patient quite the blow in the sternum. When that didn't work, I went back to CPR for less time until they had the defibrillator ready. They called clear, we all cleared the patient, and the doctor zapped him with the defibrillator.
Now this always seems to me like something out of a movie because one never expects movies to be all that accurate but, when they delivered the shock to the patient, his chest extended upward and his body nearly jumped out of the hospital bed. Then he regained consciousness and proceeded to curse us all out. lmao His main complaint is that he hurt like hell but, when he took a moment to see that there were maybe 8-10 of us all surrounding his bed with all kinds of machinery, he realized the truth and he absolutely wept.
He coded again a few minutes later but we were all there and the nurses had been giving him clot-busting medication through the IV so we got him back more quickly. This time, he came back and joked a little, plus he told us that he had noticed that he felt dizzy right before his latest heart attack.
I have long forgotten his name and I don't even know if I'd recognize him if I saw him on the street but that's not the point. You help people if you can when you see them in need and, seeing how enough of us care enough even when it's a person we've never met before and will likely never meet again, it has to be so much heavier to do CPR for a loved one and lose them anyway. I have friends who know but I only know this for pets.
Now this was back in the day when I didn't have a cell phone and didn't know where the hospital was where I had to report to my clinical so I used MapQuest. As it happened, there was a big forest fire on the path where MapQuest had told me I had to drive and I had no way to find another way to get to my clinical so I was just following fire engines down the road and eventually drove right through a bunch of fire just to get to that clinical. Sometimes the road to doing the right thing is the hardest one because it's likely that my very first patient that night would have died if one of us hadn't been there as students for our clinical. The machine never beeped the entire time we were working either of the codes he had.
When I went to drive home, I sat in the car and cried for a good bit. My patient had survived and I wouldn't doubt it if he is still alive. I wheeled him to the cardiac ward myself. I got lucky but I have a lot of friends who, not only weren't as lucky as I was with the survival of their patients, but had to deal with doing CPR on a family member or close friend and deal with losing that person. I think it was my third clinical when one of the guys in the emergency department ended up literally massaging his own best friend's heart because his best friend had been stabbed in an attack. Oddly, the best and most important jokes that I've ever heard and that we all needed came from the guy who had massaged his best friend's heart and lost him anyway. Still brings tears to my eyes.
Marietta Sullivan. What was the point of her testifying? Lally asked did you know who the defendant was or had you met her before? She responded: I knew who she was because she was sitting by the pool while I was talking with John earlier in the day but I had not met her. C’mon. We are not stupid. All these Canton women were in Aruba flirting with the godfather, “their support system” totally making Karen feel like an outsider. Marietta was gleeful at court testifying how awful Karen is - from a 2 minute encounter that happened 2 years ago. And I think John O’Keefe said “Calm Down” and Karen said “F You” to John not Marietta. But she involved herself. This is why I don’t have many female friends.
Exactly. People are jerks.
Kerry Roberts testimony was really interesting. Her words and demeanor contradicted Jen McCabe in many ways. If anything she paints a picture of a terrible situation but with little evidence that KR was directly involved in JO’s death, only that she was very upset and confused. Kerry was also the first one of “friends” to actually seem upset that John died.
Still not trustworthy. There is the fact that she repeats Jenn’s characterization of Kerry as “a talker.” Kerry then calls herself “a talker.” Weird.
@@notnow7973She was convinced that KR killed her friend, maybe by the same person that convinced KR that John never made it to the house and maybe she or a plow hit him.
There was no reason for Sullivans testimony. Complete hearsay.
Yes there was, the defence showed the jury that she wasn't present the night John died. Thats important.her testemony isn't relevant
20% of people think the earth is flat. 6% think Karen is guilty. 🤔
I trust flatearthers more than Jen M.
I’m one in 5 then again part of the vast majority…
First time seeing your channel. Thanks for doing this. I will definitely be back to your channel.
Thank you for streaming and putting thing into lamens terms.
The whole trial is about adults being irresponsible with alcohol. Everyone even the victim are poster examples for AA'z existence.
Well you don't need to worry about being arrested for drunk driving if you know every cop in town.
Exactly & if you can get away with driving a 2 tonne weapon all over town ~ no consequence d/t blue entitlement. Where does it end? Murder nahhhhh just pile it under the rug & don't trip over it.
John O’Keefe’s mom getting mad that Karen left him at a party. John was a 46 year old adult, not a teenager. He had been drinking since 7:00pm. He wanted to go to an after-hours party during a snow storm. A party at the house of his friends, not Karen’s. And if Karen had been drinking he was seemingly ok with her driving. But adults being irresponsible is definitely a theme. Alcohol played a huge part in this tragedy.
What about Colin who is probably the main perp?
Ah the trial started back up right now! Where's the stream?!
It's tough to follow a trial and make a case that doesn't stick to a schedule at all. After all the gaslighting I am unsure whether they would go as far as to do this intentionally or not.
DEF don’t think the Aruba fight is anything THATD cause Karen to want him dead!!
That spinout on its own had to have been traumatic. I feel for this witness.
OMG TOO FUNNY LEGALBYTES RE: Marietta Memory woman can help the Alberts & McCabes!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was already not impressed at all with the prosecution in any way, but after this day's testimony, I am wracking my brain trying to figure out how this case made it to trial in the first place. That attempt to show motive through the Sullivan sisters was a fucking joke.
This is worse than the Rittenhouse case.. and that should have never went to trial.. there is an ongoing federal investigation in this case. Why go to trial before its conclusion..IMHO they did this so the person or persons responsible for John's death won't face murder charges. And if the do, this trial is their reasonable doubt... wouldn't be the first time it's happened
I think these women who testified about Aruba are jerks. Even if i didnt like some jealous chick of my friend Johns id never testify to this story. Its petty and you know being jealous and insecure doesnt have anything to do with this case...... i see what dots prosecution are trying to connect but its not working for me.
so bitchy arent they
I agree. Has nothing to do with this. Prosecution just wanted to smear her name and embarrass her.
It seems that they really did group gang up on Karen since their holiday. They seem real bitter towards Karen as if she's done something wrong to them, but date John. She tends to give John a lot of attention for being married to another guy. The daughter in white
The only way that Karen can be found guilty is if the thenjury is the rest of the same family as the police ! #notguilty #setup
Nice to clarify it is the Lang daughter her daughter is friends with. Jen's testimony was that it was Mike Lang the daughter was friends with.
Sounds like the daughter liked John... Shes always alone with him 🙄
Which daughter?
@LegalBytes Do you think the Defense could recall Kerry Roberts when it’s their turn? Is that a possible reason not to question her now? Thanks for the great coverage! & CONGRATZ & good Health with your baby! 😎
I also had this thought but I'm sure they'd have just questioned her while she was here. The truth is, she didn't really say anything too problematic.
I would imagine, with no legal knowledge on my part, they didn’t want to cross examine her because it might look like they were taking advantage of or picking on someone who distraught over loosing a friend. Again, no legal knowledge on my part.
Why would the judge allow this testimony. Seems like run of the mill couple jealousy stuff. How many men have said, "she's crazy" about their girlfriends? Maybe, every single one. She just helped Karen Read's case 100%. This was a sketchy and weak attempt at a motive. Both the women testifying about this incident come off as petty and ridiculous.
Karen apologizing after even suggests she knew it was a mistake and nothing to hold against john. Plus, they were very nice around each other the night this happened. So we are to believe that from being a happy couple at the bar, in a 10 minute drive to the Albert house they got in a fight and she decided to kill him?
And not at all sympathetic. The girl he was kissing couldn’t say “oh my gosh! I bet that looked bad! I’m sorry!” They have to be insulted and insulting?! He couldn’t see Karen’s point of view?
Hi, JM massive lied on the stand and AJ did not catch it. I was surprised. JM deleted 4 girls text in front of an ofc before handing her phone over . then said on the 2;27am google search I don't how to the delete text. credibility AJ had her boxed. OJO phone under him wouldn't that been tossed somewhere away from his body if he got hit by suv at 24;2 mph.
Deleting text message is a different process than deleting browser search history. I'm sure more people know how to do the former and not the latter. But she's not a credible witness anyway so jurors might think if she deleted texts then she's very capable of thinking to delete incriminating browser history too.
Good point!
Thanks Alyte
Are we sure there’s no ring door footage
There was. From the house across the street. BUT, it's another "cop" house, sooooooo, yep, nothing to see here, folks. Gone!!
@@WWG1WWGA WRONG ON SOOOO MANY LEVELS ❗️rest in peace Officer ✨John O’Keefe🙏🙏🙏
Karen thinks she left John at the waterfall 😂😊
I think this is a lie she purposely spun until she realized Jenn had seen her at the house.
@@SarahJaded414If she was only there a minute, maybe, she was there for about 25 mins so I don't agree. Also, not one person saw John in the car with Karen at 34 Fairview or anywhere around the car.
Why would she be there alone in her car??? She didn't even know them or want to go.
The judge said ...the acts... not the alleged acts in relation to what this witness says Karen did. That doesn't sound right.
That’s so funny because Brian Albert’s dogs name is Cloey
So I've been following but a little new. Johns family and close friends all believe that Karen is guilty? I'm not asking about alberts or McCabes that's obvious. I mean like his family and close family friends
Apparently within days Karen McCabe became very close to John’s mom. Spinning her tail. Calling herself and other’s “Peggie’s Angels” Not sure if they will see the truth.
10:35 very sharp
Chloe rehomed in Aruba :)
Who is to say she did not slightly back into him and he still went to the door? The marks on his arm, his eyes, gash on his head and some talk about his belt missing?
You seem shocked every time they call the witness I thought you had the list?
Yes, she has both witness lists. They won't call every witness on the list though, it just reserves the right for them to call them. And they are in no particular order. I think over 80 people are on the prosecution witness list and over 70 for defense list.
Feels that the judge is being co-opted into the prosecution’s strategy by giving her instruction about the lobby fight. If so, that’s really problematic.
This judge has had to lawyer up. After she gave sealed federal records to multiple subjects of a federal investigation.
The US Attorney literally threatened to take this case from her. Said and you know I have the power to do it too.
Both the judge and prosecutor know Karen Read is innocent. They have just committed so much misconduct throughout this case. That they see their only salvation as a guilty verdict.
You would be shocked what this judge is keeping from the jury. Such as they know Jen McCabe made the incriminating Google search hours before John O'Keefe was found. Because they have the damn Google records.
The defense, prosecutor, and judge all know exactly why there were so many "butt dials". Because the feds got them all to lie under oath about not making those calls. Then brought them back in to confront them with the records. Like the Google records I mentioned.
Which would really clear things up don't you think? Hey don't trust that Jen McCabe because here's why she's lying. Nope instead she tells the jury not to believe phone records. Which she also knows wouldn't have any impact if she let the defense introduce the records straight from Google.
No analysis of failure to Cross
D-bag attorney knew he couldn't rattle today's witnesses.
@@kayvee9094She contradicted much of Jen's testimony and didn't really add anything, no need to cross examine.
35:31
I'll have to watch with Emily Friday 😢
Emily's gonna be late Friday I think. Just an fyi.
@@Alison1973 🤣🤣🤣
You should cover the Aidan Kearney (Turtleboy) hearing tomorrow.
Ok
She did not have to pick up that bill that’s not right
If you like this case you need to watch and follow turtle boy. He’s got all the insider info and it’s juicy
Karen waking everybody up because she can’t find her boyfriend amazing
It makes perfect sense to me! I’ve done this when I couldn’t find my 20-year-old son! What should you do?! Just sit?!
When my husband was late from a photo shoot in downtown Detroit (before cell phones), I called my sister, my brother (they drove 40 minutes to be with me), and the police. The police in my neighborhood sent a cop to sit with me til my family arrived.
He was stuck in the tunnel from Windsor to Detroit. It was 4th of July. He did a city scape of Detroit from Windsor with fireworks. Beautiful!
But I didn’t know! He didn’t get home til 1 am. I thought he was hurt somewhere. So Karen’s behavior makes perfect sense to me!
So... Karen said something loudly.
So many of these women are emotionally still in High School. This testimony is petty.
It is very telling that this week a lot of comparisons have been made with the movie Mean Girls, a high school movie.
Anyone sent for a mental eval is capable of drunkedly and accidently causing harm. Esp. when they send a -i hate you message
She was still drunk at 9am 😅
MS+meds+alcohol=complete maniac
What a mess. You’re struggling a lot today.
"It takes a lot to "apologize" to someone........." Well, it takes a lot to flip out on a innocent person during a innocent moment, too! Does not make Karen a murderer, it means she is very insecure & does not handle liquor well, but, honestly, no skinny woman ever does. 😏
Her meds for MS may lower her tolerance and why don’t these folks Uber?
@carrollherzog3313 no one of any intelligence mixes medication with liquor. 😒 But, you may be right. Still not a "pretty" thing to do, if so.
Maybe Karen never got over it! And kept throwing it in John’s face.
There's no evidence to suggest that when Laura Sullivan testified about John's statements at the end of the trip and about Karen's apology and request to pay for at least part of Marietta Sullivan's room. If the prosecution introduces more evidence that suggests this issue lingered or festered beyond that date, there's something to talk about. Otherwise, it sounds like this issue resolved before they ever went back to Massachusetts.
If he did n9t have on a coat. Wouldn't that mean he went inside the house and removed his coat?
He was in the bar without one too. I think he just wasn't wearing one.
I feel like this witness is saying things in a way to sound like ugh karen, which the prosecution thinks is beneficial but this witness knows Karen's kind and nice. I feel like this witness is playing thr prosecution. But I'm not all yhr way through her testimony
She really cares for John unlike Karen face of stone
She loved him so much she didn’t even go to his funeral pos
How long after his death was the funeral, and was it before getting charged? If after, it makes 0 sense for her to attend regardless of how much she cared for him. Would YOU attend a funeral for someone you're accused of murdering where you'll basically have everyone there upset that you are there? Maybe she didn't go because she didn't want the focus on her. Lots of reasons why you wouldn't attend a funeral.
@@ashley4290agree! Maybe John's family asked her not to attend. I'm sure she would've gone if she was welcome to.
What a dumb statement Lisa. 🤣
@@Alison1973 I agree. Karen was not married so 'only' a girlfriend, and the family could have stopped her from coming. It was already suggested there was some animosity from the family towards her.