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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2023
- RYOBI Leaf Blower All Seized UP! Is It Worth Fixing?
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See what you could accomplish with that piston and a few minutes on a polisher wheel. Then polish the inside of the cylinder. If you can smooth the scoring out, install the piston 180 degrees from the original position and see if it will run.
To me it looks like the piston and crank are bone dry. Even when looking through the exhaust port the piston looked dry. You should expect oil on the interior of the engine. That blower was either straight gased or they had poured something else in the fuel tank.
Do you recommend using trufuel that comes premixed?
Nice teardown but imho rarely worth even tearing those lower end machines apart other than for curiosity. Unless they ran it with the air filter off and sucked something in i would agree that some little chunk of something internal broke off or a burr from casting let loose in there.
Raccoon 🦝 eyes... Sometimes ya just gotta play with things ! 🥴
I'd put it back together and used it as it. It will probably run. Rub a little oil in the cylinder when putting it back together.
Great how-to! I was able to find a new power head on ebay for $47 +freight! I was surprised that it came complete with carb, flywheel and muffler! I watched this video so I could put it back together! Lol
Well done, that was a lot of work. I was surprised the crank and piston were so oil free and clean.
They weren't just dry... They were unusually clean and brite. 🤔
I agree.
I always put more oil in the mix than recommended, especially on break in . I never have had a problem. And thorough mixing the oil and gas in the container is very important.
Generally it will not hurt the engine with more oil in the mix. At some point it will start smoking though.
I run 40:1 True-fuel in my equipment. But imma start using Regular True-fuel with Red Armor oil
I have heard the engine will run hotter, leaned out now, less fuel runs leaner
I always use the manufacturer recommended ratios and never had an issue.
@@fixit4182 This. More oil is not neccessarly better.
That sucks, it looks like a well built blower, you can't win them all, excellent diagnosis donny.👍👍
Very thorough tear down and diagnose. As always!
Warm weather is finally here on the east coast USA. I'm testing out all my lawn equip. Just stopping by for support and appreciation for the channel.
FYI, years ago I was doing some front end work on a Ford and the bolts were immovable, until I heated them with a torch and doing that loosened a ton of thread locker on the threads. Heated them, cleaned them up and it was smooth sailing from that point forward. I put thread locker back on the bolts but not quite so much.
No point putting that thing back together. It truly is a "basket case".
You are one dedicated soul!👍
May be able to measure the rings and speak to an aftermarket supplier to see if they can provide an equivalent. Try HLS, they might be able to match them.
You can probably just lhone the cylinder, clean up the piston and put new rings in it.
Hey Johnny, did you look at the electrode on the spark plug to see if that might’ve been the piece that fell off?
Great idea 👍
Love it when he says always the last Bolt take care Donnie
I have the newer model of this. I just found 4 of the RY38BP on ebay for less then $70 bucks that seem to have the same issue. (Them all being sized) So purchased a parts blower. Looks brand new as well.
I WILL be making a video on my failure as the DARN FAN seemed to have came off!
I noticed something was wrong when it started to vibrate a lot more. Then it had trouble keeping up RPM.
Then today? POOF! The engine went WAY up in RPM. And hardly any air was coming out of the blower.
Yup. Has to be a fan failure.
Looked up the part for the fan, and found I could get an entire blower sent to my door from Ebay for just a few dollars more. So jumped on that offer.
Since the Blower is Plastic? Its pretty easy to fix anyways, but thought it would be a good idea to have lots of spare parts on hand.
BTW? you can always use a heat gun or Soldering Iron to Heat up the bolt as well. Worked for me a long time ago.
Also, I wonder if you can just rehone the bore and polish the piston a bit to put it back in service?
Probably never know what happened. I agree with you on the material defect.
Check the spark plug for missing a portion of the electrode. Also what is the date of Mfg, Ryobi has a 3 year warranty. since the block assembly is no longer available, (and can’t get any warranty) free up the rings and flip the and he may get another year out of it…
Save it for a rainy day Dony. May get lucky and get part to fix it.
Same happened to mine using the recommended fuel mix. Got a year and half of use.
Love your videos and you should do more of this type..Very informative and interesting to follow your methodical approach.
These sell for about $200 new. Ryobi handheld equipment is low grade. A customer dropped off a blower just like yours in video. I used the carburetor to repair another customer's Ryobi blower.
Ryobi is known for issues with getting parts, can’t find individual parts. Like a stocker stud on a 4 stroke weedeater. They want whole motor replaced or nothing internally. I found that you can take a Troy Bilt stud and use a tap and die set to get Troy Bilt one into the ryobi. Got a few seasons out of it!!!
I had been using Ryobi 4-Cycle weed-eater handhelds, with inter-changeable attachments, for decades. Last year, I purchased a Ryobi 2-Cycle weed-eater handheld at Home Depot. It's compatible with my legacy attachments. I was very worried that the same thing might happen to my new small engine purchase that you are talking about with the Ryobi Blower that your customer brought to you. So, I only use Amsoil SABER Professional Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil, by Amsoil in Superior, Wisconsin. I'm not an Amsoil salesman. I'm just trying to improve the odds of getting my cheap Ryobi 2-Cycle machine to last.
I enjoy these videos and have used them to fix several issues I have had my home power equipment. Thanks Donny !
Just checked... All I Gots is the newer RY38 BP Block. The 42 was a better engine, but the 38 was just a better blower all around. Both still throw aways. 🤷🏼♂️ That's a shame. For $50.00/$100.00 more they could have bought an Echo, but the Ryobi allegedly has a 3 year warranty on manufacturer defects. 🤔 Then again these haven't been sold for a few years. 😕
I'm in the same boat at the moment with a Remington badged MTD chainsaw with scoring from an air leak. No piston, or cylinder. The scoring isn't as bad as it looks. Doesn't run the full length of the piston, and cylinder. Hopefully I can "spit&shine" both, and install new rings.
It's my brother in law's first chainsaw so I'm gonna do what I can to fix it, and tell him to retire it to a shelf since he has a Husqvarna 440 now.
Unfortunately, most of the Ryobi equipment I have dealt with ends up like those old gas station flashlights with irreplaceable batteries. When it quits working, throw it away. Your mileage may vary.
Bought the same exact blower 8 years ago, nothing but problems after 1 season. Got an Echo PB-580 as replacement, Ryobi doesn’t even come close in quality.
FACT ! 😉👍
Great autopsy. Looks like factory defect. Can’t see how it could suck something in that big, but I suppose it’s possible. 🔧👍🇬🇧
The foam filter on the carb is Very Soft and weak. Just about every new one I've opened was folded one way or another... So YEAH, plenty of rubbish could have been sucked in ? 🤷🏼♂️ If you set it down, the bottom mounted fan throws up debris like a Rabid Harrier On Crack !!! 😳
You are my go to guy for fixing my chainsaw husqvarna still etc thanks donny from 🏴👍
It's more trouble than it's worth, but you could tig weld the cylinder and re bore it and also tig weld the piston to build back material on each of them, then grind to tolerances and re install rings. But that's a lot for a leaf blower.
Awesome information Dony !!!! Thanks for showing the whole breakdown. Great stuff 👍🏻
I wounder if they used the wrong octane rating to mix up their 2 stroke mix fuel and thats what caused the damage
Sometimes a lot of different manuf use similar parts, measure the piston and search. ya know if its 44mm, then search 44mm 2-stroke piston and rings
That´s was a rare fault.
This is the same blower I have if you noticed all the other BP 42’s have the fat filter cover and choke knob is on top vs side. I just rebuilt a carb ( try to find the right one) I found on eBay for a walk behind ryobi and I had to mcgiver the throttle cable assembly. If you know where I can find the proper parts for this model I would so appreciate.
I’m still not running at full going to try to tweak the mixture when I get home today.
If you have any tips.
Thanks for your video
Hello donyboy.....why there's a dot on the top of the piston.....does that dot mean that side must face the exhaust pot?
Thanks Don, I rarely comment, but I got a lot out of that , Cheers
Try looking for an aftermarket piston and hone the block just enough to clean it up.
I have the newer version (as a curiosity I swear...I like my BR 430) and am impressed with it. Was nice to see the previous model opened up.
Many well considered prayers for you, "and your Blower", Bill 🙏😇
Way deep to come up hoopajooped.
Helpful teardown procedure.
Thanks for sharing another awesome video.
I was checking out your video and noticed the blower you were working on was the same as mine. the problem I have with this blower is it starts no problem but high speed is not that good and I cant seem to adjust the speed due to not finding the high speed or idle screw and I cant find any information on this carburetor. This is where I would like some guidance.
you have to use a spray lubricant. it really helps. PB Blaster.
I’m having the same problem but the fan isn’t spinning… I have a newer model and the fan is just stuck… is it supposed to spin? Looks like it’s glued and not an actual fan blade. The motor isn’t stiff and spins around smoothly. The pull cord won’t budge.
Your videos are amazing as always Don ❤️
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many years ago I bought a Ryobi weed whacker that was 4 stroke...just put gas in it and go....seems like consumer models should all be like this to eliminate possible user error...it lasted 10 yrs before I gave it away....just went electrics and didn't need it any longer
The short blocks are cheap. I can put one in and charge the customer a total of 1/2 of what the blower cost new, which they usually go for.
Check the spark plug see if they replaced it. Maybe something fell in it.
Good teardown, would have been good to see the spark plug.
I'm working on a similar Ryobi backpack blower. The impeller fan rubbed on the outer housing causing it to melt and seize up. Have to replace the impeller and outer housing.
The cost of repair exceeds purchase price on most Ryobi machines. The manufacturers pretty much view these machines as landfill. You can see why guys like James Condon focus on generators. Other high end machines like concrete chainsaws and jetters are where there's justification for people to spend cash on repairs.
Check the ground strap on the spark plug. It was mixed gas.
Great video, excellent use of FF too. Thank you.
Did you check spark plug for broken parts
Awesome diag don!!
Wow, at least you know the damage, something weird maybe dropped whilst running?
So weird . Maybe one of the rings where to big . End cap over spec. ? Who knows . Does the score line up with ring pin or that area of piston ?I like how you checked the pull mechanism first. I’ve seen jamb up on other products before. To bad looks almost new.
Interesting, they way the piston is scored in that one particular area and the rest is smooth including the cylinder wall, looks like something got in the chamber to cause that?
I get my impact if my DeWalt drill will not break it looseand put my T27 bit in it. It will easily remove 120 foot pounds. Don’t you just hate it when they mix up torx bit screws and Allen screws?
Check the air filter. Maybe it's brand new or missing?
Hey I see No Oil residue inside engine.
After working on Ryobi Printing Press's they are not perfect as people may think.
I could use the harness section. Mouse chewed into mine. Please let me know what you think it weighs or an estimate to ship to New York.
Enjoy you videos very much.
Nice stripdown analysis. Thanks
My 40v ryobi leaf blower just seized again. 2nd unit to fail in only 12 months.
Might not be a defect. My brother gave me his old one and said it wouldn't run right. I took it apart and seen a few scores in the cylinder wall and on the piston. Nothing dark, burned or seized.
I asked him if he ran straight gas in it and he said no.
I asked him how much oil did he mix with it and his answer was "I don't know, I never measured it, I just eyeballed it maybe about an once or so in about a gallon of gas".
Not enough oil !!!
Oil is cheap as compaired to ?
Hi Donyboy73,
I just bought another Ryobi backpack after using the original one for many years. I have only replaced the carb once on it and just recently bought another. The intake manifold (?) area the carb mounting screws go into was stripped. It looks like it had brass inserts in the holes. Can't use it anymore. I will save the carcass for spare parts for the new one. Hate to let this one die. It's the right combo of power and weight. Thanks for the great video.
Steve
Great videos always enjoy watching
Good day Don Interesting story. Thanks
Love it. Thank,s for the Lesson
Excellent tear down, I could use the throttle cable from that unit Don! I’m trying to save my own bp-42 blower. Not sure how to dm you.
Nice tear down Dony:)
I.d chase down online a cylinder block and piston assembly and $100 would not be too bad price however don't give up on it that easily etc.
Not a good add for Ryobi
I like how beefy everything inside looks. Might have to grab one of those myself I mean that crank alone looks solid.
I believe it was a small price of sand that's done that. They obviously left it running while on the gravel driveway (put it down) and who knows how well that filter worked for the smaller stuff if it was on.
Well if the air filter is anything like the little Troy Bilt blower I have (a ring of foam) that could be an issue. I really like the filter system on my Echo PAS-2620 where it uses two elements like my Honda and other commercial engines.
@@WJCTechyman The air filter is Extremely Soft and Flaccid. It really can't supports itself against any significant resistance. 🤷🏼♂️
The filter box itself is just slightly beefier than a Crackerjack Toy. 😕
Spot On ! That's exactly my take away. 😉👍
Definitely could use some external mods but the engine itself looks solid.
No aftermarket piston available?
Well done and interesting!
Seems like one could create a parts business from breaking down RYOBIS just below their OEM part’s configuration availabilities 😂😅😊
To me I would of saved the motor I’m sure you can salvage that cylinder with a hone and measure the piston then order the size piston and rings
I bet it didn’t have any gas in it when you got it
That’s funny you say it could be a defect because that looks like what happens when the piston is installed backwards.
The thing is are those blower's worth the money that you pay for them
Probably not!
@@donyboy73 of course you are right about that one
Dony, was that red lock tighted from the factory?
I ran my Husqvarna with new gas and proper mix all the time...burned. The repairman says that sometimes the oil separates or the timing runs hot. I don't know how to avoid all of these fragile machine issues.
Emissions have them all running super lean and hot nowadays.
Best to use commercially blended pre-mix fuel that is less likely to separate in the can and fuel tanks.
And you definitely want to let them warm up before you go full throttle with them. 👍
I can sure use that carburetor from that ryobi
So I maybe be able to help out. How do we get in touch?
good video, thank you
Walmart has for 55.00
My neighbor had this same problem with this exact blower, the rings literally melted to the pistons and nobody online had any parts for it. it's not even worth taking apart.
Pure junk
I am surprised you would even work on that brand. Most shops won't.
I don't, I did it to show my viewers
hi 👋 Don what’s wrong with this blower is a mystery sir it’s like doing surgery brother you just operate until you find the fix I’d really hate for you to have to scrape this machine buddy it looks to be in good shape sir i would definitely wear some gloves sir to protect your hands while moving the metal around because it’s very easy & won’t take much to accidentally cut your hands on something 😀😀
👍👍👍Thank you.
Change just the pistonrings? It could run.
The cylinder will chow down on the rings. The rings will wear out very fast where they press into the gouge in the cylinder. Yes it would run but only a few minutes.
Cylinder must be sanded smooth. There is not much wear, because the blower is quite new.
These are Junk Blowers Pain in The Arse Just to Replace the Recoil Rope 😩🙁😐😳😮 Looks Like The PID Pin Walked Out of The Piston Part Way
2 failures in 1 year. Customer service. Is terrible. Junk in my opinion.
Interesting
Way to many screws and bolts for this cowboy. LOL
Ours just quit running. Haven't had it long do yourself a favor buy echo.