Let's Talk About Jesus Revolution
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- Many of you have asked my opinion about the popular movie, Jesus Revolution. In today’s episode, I will broadcast live with my honest review. I’ll share some things I loved, some things I wished would have been different, and one thing I hated about the film. I will also play a conversation I recorded with my Dad earlier this week where I ask him what he thought. Since the film is about the time and place in which he got saved, and an actor even plays him in the movie, I thought it would be fun to ask him what he thought they got right, and what was added for artistic license. Then I’ll come back live to take any questions you might have!
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I was saved at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa 50 years ago in 1973. I was 27 so I am 77 years old now. Strange to see a movie about something that was so much a part of my life. I went to church there almost everyday for 2 years after I got saved. Jesus really used Chuck Smith to help me get grounded in the Word. Pastor Chuck and his son Chuck Smith Jr. were personal friends. I thank God for using these people to lead me to eternal life in Christ.
What a powerful and wonderful movie about a real event, as you have shared. My Sister and her Husband lived in NPB, Balboa and Costa Mesa for many years. Gave me shivers to see some of those places and realize this amazing move of God happened in that area. God bless you Leighton!
You still are giving to an illusion! You say you got saved 50 years ago? Think for a moment now. I tell everyone no one " got saved " yesterday! The Truth is now this moment is the time for salvation. Salvation is always in the present moment and ongoing the same way! Anyone telling you something different just leave that one to be dammed! Think on this for a moment!
@ Leighton Thanks for sharing your testimony where you were saved. 🙌 Praise the Lord!
I was also saved at Calvary in 1973. Happy golden anniversary.
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Salvation is not yesterday! Yeaterday is gone! Tommorow is not here yet! Now is the momment of Salvation and then continuing the same way momment after momment! All other teaching is heresy!
I was one of those hippies. Just saw the movie, and I agree with you on every point. Pastor Chuck taught the Bible. The Word of God has transforming power. Any “revival” needs to be rich with Bible teaching. The singing and emotion won’t last, but Biblical truth will.
Nonsense. The joy of the Lord is transforming to both mind and spirit. Singing and joy don't stop when you truly know Christ!
@@PETERJOHN101 Amen.
I was a flower child, lol. I couldn't go all out hippie but many similarities. I got saved during this time. Chuck Smith is who God used to give me a love for prophecy. I listened to him on the radio in the 60's and 70's. He was awesome. I had no idea about Pastor Laurie! So cool! I was around for the Jesus Movement too. It wasn't for me, but my relationship with Jesus started then. 🙌🙌🙌 I sobbed through the whole thing! So many memories!! Most awesome time!
Two different aspects: study to show yourself approved; He inhabits the praise of His people 🙌.
I will admit that I received a strong check in spirit when I was judgemental against another Christian that I disagree with, a bit of a how dare you moment.... I was saved in the Jesus Movement and continue to be thankful for my rescue.
I was born again during the Jesus Movement in 1975 in WA state. We had no knowledge of Lonnie Frisbee and not much knowledge of what was happening elsewhere. There was a powerful move of the Holy Spirit through our small community and many young people came to faith....hippies included! Rather than party on Friday nights, there would be Bible studies with 40-50 kids attending in someone's living room. The music of Love Song, as well as other new Christian music, played a big part in our young lives in Christ. Sadly, the existing, established churches did not know what to do with us. Consequently, solid Bible teaching and discipleship was scarce. Then, a Vineyard congregation formed that took in many of the young people. There was lots of music and very little Bible instruction and many of those who professed Jesus in those early days shriveled on the vine. I encountered a man in the grocery store the other day, who was part of those early days, active in the faith, and then fell away. I asked him what was going on in his life now and he happily said that he just started to read the Bible....he is 75 years old. All of this to say that without strong, consistent instruction in the Scriptures, the babies won't grow......
Very well said. We're called to make disciples not get converts. The new believers need to be taught to become disciples.
I had such a similar experience! I still listen to Love Song to this day. There was a movie called "Time to Run" which I loved at the time. Billy Graham had a part in it. My faith was pretty surfacey at the time though, and I too am just now reading the Bible in earnest--not just picking and choosing verses I like.
I agree I have seen this too
I was born again in 1966 and became involved with the charismatic renewal about the same time the Jesus revolution surfaced. Your Dad's songs remain my favorite. Lonnie Frisbee's dying of AIDS moved me deeply. If he struggled with same-sex attraction, I know firsthand what it was like to struggle with it as a born-again believer during the 1970's. This is not to excuse his sin or my sin, but it was a struggle the church, for the most part, ignored: that someone who was born again could struggle with same-sex desires. By most part, I mean church leaders who faced the truth that a "genuine" believer could struggle with that attraction, instead of addressing it pastorally within the context of their churches, farmed us out to so-called "ex-gay" ministries who specialized in "healing" homosexual desires; the largest was Exodus. Ironically, these para-church ministries took form the same time gay rights exploded. And while gay rights moved on to redefine culture, the ex-gay ministries imploded. Why? Because they were steeped in Freudian psychology and promised a healing not found in the Bible. Same-sex attraction is a sin of the flesh - and God does not heal the sinful appetites of the flesh. Scripture is clear that in the new birth we are new creatures in Christ. It is equally clear that the new birth doesn’t automatically remove the desires of flesh: the need for on-going personal sanctification. The same is true for sinful same-sex desires and their accompanying romantic feelings (unnatural affection and a sign of the last days (2 Tim 3: 1-7). No one better teaches this than Rosaria Butterfield, who you’ve interviewed. Countless men and women who looked to be healed from homosexuality, and never found it, gave up trying and resigned themselves to living as a gay man and lesbian. I did for eight years. Lonnie may very well have given up his own struggle for these very reasons. The fact that he repented proves what Jesus said in John 6:39 - that all whom the Father gives Jesus, He will lose none and raise them up on the last day (election). I’ve written a book "Glorified Rubble: Rebuilding the True You,” published by WestBow Press. It chronicles my born-gain experience, my own struggle with same-sex attraction post new birth, how Jesus rescued me from living in the gay culture in Chicago with my accompanying repentance, and what I’ve learned from Scripture as the biblical way to deal with same-sex desires and ALL sins of the flesh that bait us post new birth. In summary, it’s a look at Romans 6, 7 and 8. I’ve dedicated the book to Rosaria. Perhaps my story, and what I’ve learned and apply daily, is for such a time as this. John MacArthur’s book “Hacking Agag to Pieces’ skillfully unpacks how a born-gain believer is to deal with the desires of the flesh: put them to death and not seek to be healed of them! I found it encouraging, because that is what I said in my book regarding same-sex attraction. And if ever there was a need for biblical truth this is that day! Pray for me and my ministry. I've sent you a summary of my book via your website.
Thank you for sharing your testimony! Praying for you and your ministry ❤
Thank you for sharing. I'll truly be praying for your ministry.
@@ahhitskatie9094 Thank you. Also pray that my book "Glorified Rubble: Rebuilding the True You" reaches the people who need it
@@garisanneanderson9375 Thank you!
There's a widespread idea that our problems are created by the devil and healed by Jesus, which makes us the victim; first a bad victim and then a good one. Homosexuality is the result of unresolved grievances against the opposite sex. We do need God's help to correct the false ideas that are behind it. That's where prayer comes in and changing our minds, metanoia, the work we do with the Father.
The best takeaway is let's have a soft heart, a sharp mind, and a THICK SKIN !!! Excellent video, Alisa.
I went to Calvary from 1975-1980. I will never forget those years and it is truly there I cut my baby Christian teeth. Chuck Smith was my hero! Saturday night concerts were the best part of my young adult life seeing Love Song, Daniel Amos, Sweet Comfort Band, and others. Greg Laurie often did the teaching after the concert. His hair was really long, lol. I was baptized at Pirates Cove. I, too, appreciate the fact that CC separated the gifts of the spirit into what was called, an “after glow” following the concert or weekly meetings. There was no coercion; very voluntary and not forced. What days those were! Oh how much we need this again! Lord Jesus, bring revival please!
My feelings exactly. I looked up to Chuck Smith as a father in the faith.
"We came for Bible study not phenomenon" So glad you were saved!
AW Tozer wrote a paper titled The Menance of the Religious Movie. Very eye opening and scriptural. The majority of people who profess to be Christians have no discernment. We are entertainment/feelings not truth based. The Evangelical church is sick and only Christ can heal her.
Wow. And YOU have discerned that how? Very strong words for an extremely general statement. Keep your religious focus on improving yourself instead of judging others.
@@gowanderlustwithme you obviously have not read the article, or scripture. We do not judge those who are lost but scripture does command that we warn fellow believers about wolves. Funny how you talk about judge not and you believe you can judge me. Because that's what you just did.
Amen!! The term "Conservative Evangelical" has very little meaning today and I am immediately skeptical when I hear someone referred to as such.
Yes I will add that being in Christ is truly Christ receiving your soul upon a silent yes from your heart. Modern " christianity " has turned all upside down ,inside out and backwards thinking itself to be a god! Same thing happened in the garden too!
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This person is speaking of what is now an institution, but at a much earlier time was the church! Forsaking Truth for favor and popularity is being in worse sin than the pharasees Jesus condemmed in Person in real time! When we know something is wrong repentence is to be prayed for!
Amen. I started attending CCCM as a young child in the mid-70's and at that time there was evidence of brotherly love, Christ-centered worship, and absolutely the meat of the Word of God taught line-by-line, book-by-book from one end of the Bible to the other (and then repeated). Pastor Chuck was absolutely not about the numbers or gimmicks. The focus was always on faithfully sharing the Gospel through the living Word of God that is powerful to accomplish God's purpose. Pastor Chuck was humble and gracious and full of God's love. He stayed the course not deviating and this protected the church from every wind of doctrine. He believed and lived what he taught.
I think it is important that, as a decernment ministry, that maybe in the case of this movie from your own experience you have a bias and a lack of objectivity. Just like all denominations Calvery Chapel has been in the news for issues of a theological and sinful nature. Be careful of blind spots and giving a movement a pass as "all God". There have been many heresy issues that began as a result of the Jesus movement. It is easy to trace a lot of the worldliness issues that our churches are experiencing today as a cumulative effect of making the church more like the world to attract the world.
Your own testimony was that before being confronted at the church where they were introducing basically a deconstruction of your faith you said that until you were faced with being challenged in your beliefs you didn't know how to defend or actually know why you believe what you believed. So even though example was there for you, you still had not grown until you were faced and forced to.. You are the rare case of figuring it out.. It is not our denominations that make us who we are but each individuals desire to know God and grow in Christ in knowledge and obedience. I wish there was an absolutely safe denomination but as we live in a fallen world we will always have to be vigilant for the truth where ever we are placed. Be aware of your own blind spots especially when they are close. We must keep Christ first and be "Berean". We are never as vulnerable as when we think we have arrived and above danger as a congregation. We are still always living in this fallen world and like Paul says, We should be diligent lest having preached Christ becoming ourselves disqualified.
Thanks for being faithful.
I really respect what you have said about not judging what you don't know. I lived through, and experienced first-hand the little Chapel beginning in 1970. In addition, I went to school with Lonnie. I attended Newport Harbor in 1962 and Lonnie was a student there. I always thought that Lonnie might be gay at that time. Lonnie was a very friendly and warm person then. This was prior to the hippie days. I later attended Corona Del Mar High School in 1964 and one day I saw Lonnie walking across the quad to and art class I was signed up for. Lonnie was a very talented artist. I am an artist as well. I remember that year Lonnie and I had some of our work entered in an art exhibit in Los Angeles (Bullock’s downtown). Another reason Lonnie and I became friends is, we both have similar names. My name is Lon, but usually referred to as Lonnie. There was another Lonnie at school (CDMHS) named Lonnie, Lonnie Caruthers (since passed away). I didn't see Lonnie after those days until 1970 when I started attending Little Calvary Chapel on Flower St. I knew Lonnie personally and he was as genuine as can be. He was anointed in a very special way. I have many stories about Lonnie over the years after Calvary Chapel.
I'm writing this to set the story straight from my experience with him. I don't know if Lonnie was gay or not, he never showed that to me. What I did experience was a very loving brother who loved Jesus genuinely. Yes, Lonnie sinned and suffered the consequences of that sin. We are however cleansed from all sin because Jesus took our sins and our punishment for them upon himself and this pleased the Father. He is our "propitiation" for our sin, if we are in Him and believe in him. John 7:7-10 7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleansed us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us".
Lonnie confessed his sins and so have I many times in my walk with Him. It's not what we have done but what Christ has done for us and this is why, even though we may stray, we Love Him and can never be separated from His Love for us. Get over yourselves, the only thing special about you, is God's Agape Love for you. King David was, at one time in his walk, a liar, a thief and a murderer and yet God declared him, "a man after His own heart". David is still a key figure in the lineage and plan of the Father for the coming of the Messiah, our God and Savior Jesus The Christ. If you do not understand that it is the weak and the imperfect that God uses to perform His plan for the universe, then you have missed it. Get over yourself and focus on Jesus and what He has done for us. I personally experienced those days at Calvary Chapel and it was as real, and of God as it gets. With Love to you all.
I love when your dad comes on the show! Thank you for this interview! He brings reminder that we worship in Spirit and Truth to the apologetics scene. What an amazing family legacy!
I was pleasantly surprised by Jesus Revolution as well. I loved Kelsey Grammer as Chuck Smith. He had a very believable character arc, and I loved watching Kelsey's facial expressions in the film, it felt like he was genuinely surprised at what God was doing with him and his church. It was well made, the music was fantastic, the blonde who played Cathy was beautiful, and it did not shy away from Lonnie's troubles at the time too. It allowed the messy to get in there, the worldliness of it. It felt unapologetic, and it should stir us as Christians to reach out to todays marginalized and love them, and not be offended by them.
Grammer is an excellent actor. About Jonathan, well, talk about “chosen”, talk about thew way that project has crown from a mustard seed. Pray that it continues and does not lose its fire,
@Darren I'm assuming, Darren, that you were there during the early 70's when thousands or marginalized people (much like the sinners and tax collectors that Jesus was drawn too), were swept into a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, but instead of seeing a revival of the heart, you saw nothing of religious value. If you weren't there, I'll assume again, that you have some kind of fact-driven-data that disqualifies the Jesus movement as being a false revival. Notice I did not judge you but gave you the benefit of the doubt based off of your opinions. I wish you would do the curtesy to the real people depicted in this film whose lives were changed forever because of Christ. Including one Greg Laurie, who holds annual, stadium-filled gospel focused events that have estimated tens of thousands of decisions to accept Christ as their savior. If this is not the fruit of revival, I am unsure what qualifies in your mind as a true revival.
"The Left Foot of Fellowship" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Too funny. Your dad is precious 💞
I became a Christian in 1977 and the lady who told me the truth of Jesus always played your dad's songs. Today those songs remind me of happier days, never to return. When I hear his songs today, those beautiful memories come back. God bless your dad and your family.♥️
Hi Alisa,
Enjoyed your commentary on the movie. I haven't seen it yet. But I was there in June of '71 at the small chapel and Lonnie Frisbee was doing a healing service after Chuck's teaching.
Concerning Greg Laurie's salvation; I read the book and Greg was saved at his high school, before his baptism.
Lonnie was giving a Bible study on the high school lawn and Greg responded to the invitation and was saved that day. Later, he was baptized.
Thanks for the good work you do.
Neal
Alisa, thank you for this very well done segment. I have been greatly disturbed since seeing the movie, trying to make sense of what happened with Lonnie, Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard. I really appreciated hearing your Dad's perspective, as one who was there. Thank you for clarifying your Biblical stance as a continuationist, while acknowledging that abuses exist. I'm just reflecting that, when the Jesus movement erupted, many of these young people had no Biblical grid or grounding, and so, it was inevitable that there would be error. In that sense, it's ironic that, today, we have ample opportunity to get sound Biblical teaching, but we seem to have more error than ever, in both charismatic and non-charismatic circles. Can you tell me again the name of your Dad's book?
His book is called "Rock & Roll Preacher" (Chuck Girard). Read it last month. Good, worth reading.
People make mistakes. Finding Christ is not a guarantee against making them. Christ and what he taught is an anchor we hold onto to see our errors more clearly. The Prodigal son hits the bottom consistently until he learns what's up.
When any body comes to christ they have no biblical grounding, its up to each one to pursue God through his word, there is no excuse for getting it wrong, Jesus says " if you love me keep my commandments" he has given us his word to apply in our lives. The facts are that on the back of a true work of God through people like chuck smith, very quickly a false spirit masqueraded and took certain people astray , like Lonnie and Wimber. This can be traced back to Paul Caine and William Bramham. And forward to the Toronto experience and to Bethel and Bill Johnson. Yes there is corruption and truth mixed together, the spirit of truth , and the spirit of error.
@@ChristianRescue As a Christian for over 44 yrs, decades ago, I did embrace a few false teachers and their teachings The most notable one would be Kenneth Copeland who has dangerous teachings on faith and prosperity. If you read the Bible for yourself and look to the Holy Spirit to guide you, you'll be fine. Don't put your trust and confidence in any individual because people aren't perfect. God's Word is. However, there are some really great apologists, pastors and teachers that are trustworthy.
Alisa Childers, Mike Winger, Frank Turek, Greg Koukl, Natasha Crain and others. As you listen to these individuals, you will find that they have a genuine love for God and His Word and are quite humble and careful of how they approach God's Word. Hope this helps and God bless!
@@ChristianRescue When we are at peace, we are connected. When we are in fear, anger or sadness, we aren't. Then we are letting the world and its false ideas teach us.
"And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."
It's the still, small voice. The raucous voice is the ego or carnal mind.
Alisa,
Thank you! So many things I wasn’t aware of in the Vineyard movement!
I attended the Vineyard for many years, lots of our leaders loved Kathryn Koleman ( sp?) it was the first church I attended after getting saved at a Billy Graham crusade-
I’m now looking for church that is faithful to Biblical teaching- I watch a lot of Jack Hibbs, Skip Heitzig, Allen Jackson and some great old teachers like Adrian Rogers-
I started to get drawn to these folks after leaving the Vineyard- I wish I’d known all of this years ago.
Something you said about Lonnie Frisbee, being bitter after leaving the Vineyard, resonated with me, because that’s exactly how I felt when I left. I was questioning a-lot of the beliefs and practices, but not getting any answers that calmed my soul… I remember asking if I should support and attend a gay wedding of someone I worked with, and one of the pastors said sure why not. I did…
It wasn’t thought out or even Biblical!
My eyes were clearly opened during the 2016 election when they said people who vote on ( the right) were idiots. I’m very pro-life and had some questions about that as well…
I understand that Jesus is not a democrat or a republican, but there are certain policies that are morally wrong- I was always made to feel wrong about my questions- or deemed “ over spiritual “
Having been away from there has been such a gift from God! He rescued me from the pit of deception.
I am not bitter now- there were a-lot of really good experiences and lessons I learned there too.
God is so faithful and I’m grateful for the faithful followers of Jesus He put on my path.
Thank you for your wisdom and sound teaching on the Bible.
I grew up going to the Vineyard in Cincinnati and got saved there. I believe that a lot of their doctrine was solid, but I have a lot of emotional baggage trying to declare healing in the name of Jesus and trying for seek the Holy Spirit’s leading in everything, even what kind of toothpaste to buy. Not to mention trying to hear from God through visions, all of which were being taught at my church.
I’d listen to John MacArthur. I attended CCCM for decades . Then Reality LA . I think J Mac is my favorite Bible teacher.
@@flowerpower3618 He is a very sound Biblical teacher as well.
I am so grateful for faithful expositors of the Word!!
It’s important to remember, regardless where or how we were saved, if it was through some of these “movements” (I’m always skeptical of titles that include that word) or a heretical church, God will pull His sheep out of deception and into the fold. We continue to study our Bibles and pray for discernment, putting on the full armor of God for the times are wicked and Satan is cunning.
@@christistruth705 yes! God will use anyone and anything in His power-
I think of when he sent out the disciples two by two-
Even Judas during that time was used for the saving of souls!
I was pondering that this morning!
God moves in mysterious ways! I’m so grateful He has saved me!
And hopefully many more souls will be as well! ☀️
After all these years, I still enjoy listening to your dad’s music!
The actor that played Lonnie in the movie( Jonathan) was praying to dead Lonnie Frisbee for a sign to do this movie. Praying to the dead is forbidden in scripture.
*Laying next to his grave* praying to dead Lonnie. Let's not forget the best part! 😉
Necromancy *and* grave-soaking. 🎉
He’s an actor
Catholic (which jonathon is ) believe that when we leave this earth we are alive. So he wouldn’t be praying to the dead.
I watched the interview Jonathan gave regarding this - he actually said he prayed “with Lonnie” and laid down next to his grave. Quite troubling.
@@julievalentino4442 Indeed.
Lovesong was to Christian music what the Beatles were to rock and roll. I remember going to a Lovesong concert at College Ave Baptist Church in San Diego when I was 18 or 19 years old. I got there a couple hours early because I wanted to be in the front row. Eventually your dad and the band arrived and started setting up. I was just in awe of these guys whose music had meant so much to me as a Christian. When they were finally set up, there were still only a few people in the auditorium. Then your dad walked over to me and asked me how I was doing, and sat down and chatted for awhile. You (and him) have no idea how much of an impact that had on me, that he would do that. They opened with Two Hands, and about midway through the concert, your dad read Psalm 150 which was followed by a 5 minute drum solo. I praise God for the ministry that Lovesong still has to this day.
Just saw the movie today. Thank you for filling in with your dad. I was 18 in 1971. Took me a while (43) to receive Gods gift of grace. This movie moved me to tears many times. Keep up the good work on your ministry. It’s all about the Gospel.
God bless you
The last album I bought by Chuck Girard was precious to me. It was titled The Stand. My brother, a Harley rider, would come over to visit me, and every time ask me to put that album on and he and I would shoot pool in my house in the afternoon.
My brother came to the Lord when he was living with me. He had just moved up from Huntington Beach. It’s my belief that The Lord prepared him before his fatal wreck when he went to Rest that following year. I can’t wait to see him on resurrection day and together meet the Lord in the air. Wow!!!
From about 1998, and several years after, I was incredibly blessed by the verse-by-verse teaching of Pastor Chuck, and several other Calvary Chapel teachers and pastors, on the Calvary Christian (formerly, "Chapel") radio network, when a repeater station was set up, that reached our local area. The teaching was rock-solid! Chuck was a great teacher.
I grew up listening to your dad. We'd sit in the living room and listen to his records along with 2nd Chaper of Acts and Don Francisco. Such great memories. We played his song, Sometimes Alleluia at my Dad's Celebration of Life.
What is Alisa’s Dad’s name? I didn’t catch it if it was mentioned. Thank you 🙏.
@@apaul1950 Chuck Girard. Look him up, he's amazing!!
Funny. I was thinking about this too, sis ♥
This is great, I didn’t realize her father was who he was.. I play on Pandora, second chapters of acts music station and it brings up all the old 70s Christian music.💞
@BOSS MOM Best Christan music! I'd much rather listen to those than what we have today.
This is the best interview I’ve seen about the movie.
Loved this review of Jesus Revolution. Our family are "fruits" of this move of God.
Praise God!
I miss the real depth that " Jesus Music" had. I think God used so much of this music, because ( for the most part) it was about Christ healing out of brokenness. It lifted Him up!
Love your channel, Alisa. Stay humble and true!
PS ...more interviews with your dad and others that came to Christ during this time, please.😊 please!
I think we who were saved during that time, this was awash in nostalgia and those first love moments have come back to us.
God's timing is always perfect.
I am 44 and my parents were influenced by this movement and I’ve always been a kind of neo-hippie so of course I grew up listening to LoveSong and had the privilege of seeing your dad and Pastor Chuck when they toured in 2010. After I was able to take pictures with them and I asked them all to sign my The Way bible (which now makes me laugh that I had them sign my Bible like I was at a book signing) and it was a precious memory. Praise God for using these men and continuing to use men for His glory. Maranatha! Come Lord!
This was great and answered the questions I had about the validity of the film. How cool that your Dad was there!
Several places in the movie I wondered whether they had read or studied the Bible. Very disappointing especially for nonbelievers and skeptics. Except for when Greg Laurie was baptized, it seemed as though people were being baptized without knowing what it was about or how to be saved. Thanks for explaining all these things.
QUESTION: We all know that Lonnie Frisbee brought young people back into the church. But, I want to know: What kind of "Christianity" did he advance? Was he a benefit to Christianity at large? Or did he lead people into the charismania we see on the stage today and to NAR?
As a 90’s kid from Orange County and part of my church experience being from Calvary Chapel as well as other churches that split off from them, I would say the over all take away is that God worked for good through the events of that time. (As He promises anyway!) I am enjoying the fruits of the explosion of believers and spiritual growth of that time.
Are thousands of saved young people who went on to raise their children for christ and then their grand children (👋hi it's me) somehow meaningless because some people somewhere went astray on the doctrine?
The beginning of the end times Great Apostasy!!
@@lizzibriggsriesco7604
Excellent comment!
@@ArcticChildOfTheKing
That began with the Marxist-Democrat political assault on Christianity in the schools.
Alisa, I love your dad's song "Sometimes Aleluia." And I love the rendition you did with the Girard Girls. That song was so meaningful to me as a young Christian in the early 70s. What a wonderful heritage! Thank you!
As a new Christian in 1979 I led worship at the college group. The Love Song song book was the first I bought.
I think it was obvious the movie was more about Greg Laurie. Chuck Smith was misrepresented. I came to Christ during this time, and was not a hippie, and it is unfortunate Chuck did not get to share the Gospel as he did every time he was in the pulpit. I respect Raul Ries movie "from Fury To Freedom" showed Pastor Chuck sharing the Gospel where Raul is overpowered by the Holy Spirit and falls to his knees in surrender before he killed his wife and children. (Thankful he did not follow through).
Just a comment on something I hear from many about the Asbury move. (They were always hesitant to call it a revival). I hear many question the fact that there was little preaching of the Gospel. My take on this is this-the primary audience at the start was the student body of Asbury University, a Christian school. I think it is safe to say that the student body was quite familiar with the basic teachings of the Bible, and the plan of salvation. That does not mean that most were, necessarily, very committed to the Lord and walking is in His ways. It simply means they generally had the head knowledge but maybe some needed to make that spiritual connection and commitment, a fresh encounter with God, or repent and return to the God they had known. My point is maybe most did not need the Gospel preached but they needed to experience Him in a way they had not. They needed the worship, the confessing, the repenting, etc. Paul did say at times it is the Spirit they need, not more head knowledge. (2 Corinthians 3:6) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. (KJV) Under the circumstances I trust the Spirit of God to properly 'steward' the move, rather than man dictate what all needs to be present to effectively minister to their needs. It just may be that the biggest need was to have the eyes of their understanding enlightened by the Spirit of Wisdom and Revelation.
Oh my word...so many names directly from my/our past: Bob Mumford,
John Wimber, Larry Norman. I had no idea Chuck was connected with all of these folks. What an amazing interview! Thank you, Alisa, for featuring your father in this interview.
Static in the last part where you are answering questions. Thanks for this post today!
I agree with your assessment of the movie. I would add something that bugged me, too. Greg was seemingly promoted to preach and teach at another church without it showing any training or mentorship or even growth in the faith.
I really enjoyed you and your dad’s conversation! Thank you! You are so well spoken and ask great questions. God bless you and your family Alisa.❤️✝️🙏🏻💐
I don’t know why but I left the theater feeling….flat…like deflated….I don’t know why, it’s strange
Thank you so much Alisa. This was excellent and added so much to the movie. Interviewing your Dad was priceless. ❤
Oh my gosh! Chuck Girard is your dad! I didn't know that!! Wow , I have been listening to Love Song since the early 80's and still do. I have them on my CZcams and Spotify! No wonder you are so cool. Loved your critique of the movie.❤️🙏🕊️
I also ended up at Calvary. I ministered for a couple years at a Calvary Chapel in northern California.
Loved Chuck!
Any thoughts on the actor who played Lonnie on how he used necromancy to derive his inspiration for playing Lonnie? Check out the interview that Kate O'hare had with Jonathon Roumie and fast forward to about 9:35 where Jonathon speaks of how we prayed to Lonnie and asked him for a sign on how he should proceed with acting his part. It's a little disturbing.
Yes, he did do this. Everything about Roumie is disturbing...he is an actor on and off screen. I would not watch anything with him in it...very disturbing!
I too watched this interview. I also saw the interview with Kelsey Grammer talked about the metaphysics of faith.
@@garisanneanderson9375 Thank you! I just found the Grammar interview because of your comment. Sad that he can do this movie and only be emotional because of his own accomplishments. I'm not sure he got anything from it and cussed in 2 of the interviews I saw.
It’s very disturbing and why are so many Christians looking the other way? There’s something wrong here.
@@jamieburch2389 it’s not that I am looking the other way any more than I ‘look the other way’ when I watch a movie with Ben Affleck or Tom Cruise or any other actor. They are portraying a person in a role. They are not my pastor.
Wow! So blessed to find your podcast...and then I realized I met you at one of your Dad's gigs in So Cal. You were a teenager!
I began attending Chuck Smith's Sunday night Bible Studies the summer of 1968. I was in attendance the night your Dad met Jesus and heard he and his band Love Song the first time they sang at Calvary Chapel a couple weeks later. "Welcome Back!" to Jesus! That was the beginning of a fundamental Holy Spirit explosion! Blessings to you and your family! Love you guys!
This is a first for me, but I disagree with your assessment of the Jesus Revolution movie. I don't doubt that it does not portray the story as it really happened, especially since it isn't a documentary. And, actually, it doesn't matter to me if it is factual or not. What does matter is how the movie portrays Christianity, because people who are not knowledgeable about the Bible, may, and probably will, take the portrayal as truth, especially if they want a religion that doesn't just accept sinners, but also allows them to continue in their sins. First, I do think it is a well-made movie. It does not come across as cheap and cheesy, the acting was good, the story flowed well...all that seemed good. And there were several things in the movie that I agree with, such as how the Gospel is for everyone, and Christians should not turn people away just because of how they look, or smell, or even because of their lifestyle. However, throughout the movie there were scenes in the movie that made me very uncomfortable. I don't have exact quotes from the movie, but Chuck Smith basically says that all seeking forgiveness and freedom were welcome in his church; and when he is first speaking to the hippies in his church, he says the door opens both ways and if you don't agree with him, you can leave. In those instances, he is telling the hippies they are fine as they are, and treating the Christians in his church, the flock whom he should be shepherding, as evil outsiders. There is mention of forgiveness, but not repentance, for the hippies, and he is ignoring the fact that the church is primarily for Christians, not non-believers. This is a common tactic used in seeker-sensitive churches to get anyone out of the church who is not on board with "growing the church" by any means necessary. The movie uses the term "seeker" and "seeking" from beginning to end. Yet, the Bible says that no one can seek God until they have been regenerated. Seekers are typically seeking the benefits of God, without the boundaries. They are not seeking God, Himself. I found myself wondering if the "Jesus revolution" was actually the beginning of the seeker sensitive movement. Another scene that bothered me a great deal was when Greg is in Calvary Chapel for the first time, sees the "healing" that Lonnie is performing (the service in the movie is portrayed as almost totally experiential-driven, not gospel-driven), and he runs out, with Cathe chasing after him. The movie made it very clear that the hippies were "seeking" a replacement for the high they were getting with drugs. And Greg says he is afraid that's all it is--just another high, but Cathe convinces him to return, telling him it is "real." I immediately thought of Eve's conversation with Satan when he twisted God's word just a little bit to make Eve believe a lie that changed the course of human history for all time. Satan didn't come out spewing a bunch of hate and obvious lies. He took the truth and twisted it just enough to keep Eve from seeing that she was being manipulated to distrust and turn from God. Seeker-sensitive churches do this all the time, leaving their congregants believing their salvation is sure simply because they are excited to experience a weekly high during the emotionally ramped up service that has little, if any, Biblical preaching included. So, after watching this movie, just like during the actual "Jesus Revolution," maybe some people will be curious and open a Bible and learn about God's truth on their own, maybe some with find a Bible-based church and turn their lives over to God, but I believe most will watch the movie, search for a similar "seeker-friendly" church, and go about their merry way, sure of their salvation just because they experience an emotional moment during a church service (or a movie) specifically designed to create an emotional high, never realizing that their experience was false and that they never even understood what having a true relationship with God even is. I have no doubt that there are people today who experienced true salvation during the period portrayed in the movie, who are faithful Christians to this day. But that doesn't discount the fact that many others were just using the movement for their next high or, worse, were deceived into thinking their exciting experience was enough to "get them into Heaven" no matter what kind of life they lead, or whether or not they actually trust and follow Jesus, so they are walking around today sure of a salvation that never actually took place.
Agree! Well said.
Thank you for such clarity! You said exactly what I was thinking. We used to be very involved with CC and our daughter even went to the Bible college in Marietta and over seas to multiple campuses. I’d guess 80% of the students that graduated with her have completed walked away from their faith. We saw many false converts over our years, false hopes of healing. There was a pride that goes with CC a seeking to always have huge mountain top experiences. Assuring faith to those still walking in heinous sin after years of being in the church. They pride themselves on not having any theological training. Leaving many very Bible illiterate pastors.
Very well said. Blessings to you, sister
Alisa's Dad's book is called "Rock & Roll Preacher". Chuck Girard (her Dad)
I was saved by God's grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone in 1972. God later called me to serve as a pastor and I have had the privilege of proclaiming the gospel and preaching His Word in the same church for going on 32 years. Although I have not seen the movie yet, I look forward to doing so. What a mighty God we serve!
Lynnel Job here and I want to add that almost everyone of us that came to the Lord back then are loving the Lord and serving Him in a Mighty way...alleluia
The first time I went to Calvary Chapel (January or February 1970) was the first time your dad and the Love Song sang. I can't remember if it was a Monday or Thursday night. The movie brought back so many memories that I am still processing. The Jesus Movement was Jesus moving.
And the cool thing is Jesus is still moving ... If we let Him !!! :)
I was living in Connecticut and I was born again through this revival at age 15! I still have (and play) my Love Song album and my Maranatha! The Everlasting Living Jesus Music Concert albums! Thanks Chuck for the great music and for your testimony! It's such a thrill to see some of the events of that time documented. What some of the Calvary people may not have known is that this revival spread across the USA and even to other countries. Thanks Alisa for your review and for this great interview with your dad. BTW, there is a CZcams video of Chuck Smith telling how Love Song came to play at Calvary...it's exactly what Chuck just said!
He may not have fallen into sexual sin at that time, but he was partying at that time. He was known for partying on Saturday night and preaching on Sunday morning. He claimed that he would get visions from God of LSD trips. I do have a problem with this.
To be fair others, like Greg Laurie, say that at the time depicted in the movie Lonnie was not doing that. As stated in the movie Lonnie said he did everything and everyone, so they did not shy away. Some years later after his divorce, Lonnie did fall back into those sins. He joined up with The vineyard Church, this is when it was rumored he would party on Saturday, and preach on.
Just make sure your sources are legit sent or it’s slander.
Wow!! I had no clue your dad is Chuck Girard! My husband introduced me to his music in 1988. His music is spirit filled! I still play his music especially The name above all names and Soildiers of the Lion! AMAZING!
I'm thinking that looks like Chuck Girard...really.
I became a Christian through the ministry of Chuck Smith even though I was not a hippie and was raised in the Episcopal church which did not preach the gospel. It was Ken Gilkison who presented the gospel to our church group and taught a weekly Bible study at the high school that I attended.
My husband and I love Jesus Revolution, and I really enjoyed hearing you and your dad discuss the movie and what actually occurred. Thanks for having your dad on the show!
Thanks for posting this Alisa. I'm 42 now and was saved in 2003. I'm thankful that I was able to attend a calvary chapel during the first 7 years of my walk with Jesus. It gave me a solid foundation of God's word. God bless.
I’m from NJ and calvary chapel old bridge still has ocean baptisms in June during bridgefest.. awesome to witness 🙌🏼🕊️
"If you ever get between me & God...". True. I read (in 1980 when I was 19 or 20) Pastor Greg Laurie's little booklet about 'dating'/singleness. I believe its a little older than 1980 when 1st published. Thank ya'll. (I'm from Pasadena, Calif., -- near where Chuck Girard, Alisa's Dad, once lived) God bless
Alisa; Thank you for this. Great video. I was part of the Jesus Movement in Seattle. But I grew up in Costa Mesa and graduated from there in '63. Small world. There were a few connections for me. 1) Kenn Gulliksen and I went to high school together and are friends to this day. I try to stop in on him every time I'm in the area. 2) I got the kindle version of your dad's book because I love that era of Christian music. 3) I am very familiar with Bob Mumford and the Ford Lauderdale Five and the Shepherding Movement that came out of it. NAR is dangerously close to some of the things that came out of the Shepherding Movement if I understand what is going on there. I am happy to say that Mumford did repent of that period. BTW - good job on bringing out 1 Cor 15:17 and rooting Christianity in history. I also like your position on Cessationism/Continuationism, having come out of an AG background but now (for good reason) being much more reformed. And, finally, for years I was a road warrior. When I was on the road out of town on the weekend I would seek out Calvary Chapels because I knew I would hear the gospel.
I love his comment about speaking in tongues and the gifts - they are extracurricular. I am a charismatic, but I do not express any of the gifts. I seek the giver, not the gifts.
I Cor 14: 1-5 “Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.”
I agree we seek the Giver first and foremost and always. However, if we do that we will see in His Word that we are encouraged to seek the spiritual gifts. We are to ‘earnestly desire’ them. We cannot be more holy than God or more perfect than Him…if He says, earnestly desire something, then we should do so. The GOAL of the gifts is to build up the church! Not for our own experience or pride, but to build the body up. Do we not desire to do that? In the manner in which Scripture clearly teaches us to do. These are not optional things, we are to earnestly desire it.
Heb 2: 3-4 “ how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard, while God also bore witness by signs and wonders and various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.” Seek the giver, but earnestly ( also ) desire the gifts. It is Scriptural.
The problem is there's nothing, absolutely nothing in Scripture about 'extracurricular' gifts. ❤
@@lauramckinney9896 That’s not really true. Paul writes extensively on the many different gifts given to different believers by the same Spirit. The issue is with some Churches’ selective use of scriptures and twisting them.
@@robertpreisser3547 Spiritual gifts are biblical. Extracurricular gifts that are not directly useful at all times to support the body in specific ways are not. Paul is clear on this. The twisting happens when the gifts are not used properly (or fabricated altogether) often leading people to speak useless nonsense.
@@lauramckinney9896 Where I see churches going wrong is when they not only wrongly claim we can “activate” or “claim” these gifts (when it is clear the Spirit alone distributes them as HE wills), but also use them as some kind of litmus test for “true” Christians. If you can’t (or won’t) speak in tongues in some Churches, then your whole faith is questioned, while people can spout all kinds of lies as long as they speak in tongues.
So great to have you reviewing these current events for us. I'm from Ohio and I don't think people around here know much if anything about the Jesus Movement out west. I was concerned about what that was about and if that is related somehow to many of the issues we are seeing today. So I am glad you were able to make all that clear and also spoke about the connection with Vineyard which we have a lot of in this area. Glad to have yours and your dad's perspective to clear up any misconceptions.
Hi Alisa! Maybe it is just on my end for some reason, but around the 1:00:00 mark and onward, there is a lot of feedback in the audio. Just wanted to let you know!
Thank you Eliza or a great show. I was very appreciative of how you handled the Lonnie frisbee story with Christian love and understanding. I remember when the Ravi Zacharias story came to light and many notable Christian leaders ran for cover. Anybody that followed Ravi no said he was in constant back pain. I believe Satan used this to bring Ravi down. I believe as with Lonnie that the devil is always lurking about trying to use our weaknesses to devour us. We should use these stories as examples of how to strengthen ourselves from the devil's attacks. You and your father handled that segment very well. I became a Christian during that time in the 70s with the pouring out of the Holy Spirit. And two of my favorite Christian bands wer Love Song and Larry Norman.
The only thing I would change in what you wrote is “strengthen ourselves.” We literally can NOT strengthen ourselves, especially not in areas where we know we are vulnerable and prone to sin. We cannot “white knuckle” our way through sheer willpower alone. What we need to do is both much simpler and much harder at the same time: Admit we need God’s help, run TO God every day and not hide from Him in shame, and stay plugged in to Jesus the vine every day through Bible study and constant prayer. Not focusing on our sin, but on Jesus and Jesus’ goodness. Then His Spirit will give us the power to resist. Trying to defeat temptation on our own is a surefire path to a vicious cycle of struggle, defeat, shame, promising to “try harder next time,” then struggle-defeat-shame, over and over again.
I LOVE your dad. Grew up on his music and when I found it on CZcams years ago.. I was a sobbing mess every time I listened 🥰🥰🥰
Thanks so much for this video, loved hearing your dad! I was in the tail end of this movement and was saved in 1981. I was lead to Calvary chapel shortly after in Northern Calif, it was such a great foundation. I remember listening to Chuck and Greg Laurie in my early days. So grateful for that foundation!
Yes Alisa you’re SPOT ON! I too was disappointed that a clear concise understandable presentation of the gospel was missing in the movie!
The gospel was all through the movie.
I would like to know more about the Katherine Kuhlman connection. Her appearance in the movie shocked me and made me uneasy the rest of the movie.
She loved the Lord and Pastor Chuck adored her.
I was there with Pastor Chuck and Chuck Girard. She was really different but not unbiblical in anything I remember.
@Just a Girl and Her Bible
Kathryn Kuhlman hosted a TV show where she interviewed people. One was Lonny Frisbee. One was Corrie Ten Boom.
@@anitabuck6343 thanks for sharing that!
Your Father came to a Church in Attica, NY. I was privileged to serve him and the other guest speakers and artists at the Lodge and the event. I even chatted with your Dad about the movie. I was filled with joy listening to all there stories of how God used them a pioneers. We all felt like it was a family reunion..we are looking so forward to next years event God willing at RiverSpring.
Blessed to know you are his Daughter! And His Daughter☝🏽
Thanks for this clarity, I have been on the fence about whether to watch this movie or not. From Greg's sketchy theology these days, to the chosen actor grave praying moment, to Lonnie's controversial lifestyle wasn't sure. I'm glad to know that Lonnie was repentant and as far as you know wasn't active in that lifestyle during this time of the Jesus Revolution. I'm glad to hear that Chuck Smith was a gospel preaching, an expository preacher, and faithful to the word. I know a few pastors out of Calvary Chapel that are spot on but also know that there are some that have gone off as well. Definitely challenging these days to be discerning without being overly critical. Thank you for this video Alisa and your thoughtful words.
Same!
@@bygraceonly182 May the Lord by His Holy Spirit guide us and continue to give us discernment and wisdom now and with what is to come before Jesus returns. Glad I am not the only one on a similar journey :)
@Alisa Childers. I completely remember this movement. God was moving on the other side of the country as well. I became a Christian at 9 years old in April 1972. It’s like a movie in my mind. The songs we sang in youth group was a lot like it showed in the movie. We sang with exuberance even in those simple times. And the songs were great.
The emptiness that I felt on the night that I finally talked to God to receive His free gift after God reached out to me 3 other times is priceless. I also remember wanting to be more than dust put back in the ground after I die.
@Alisa Childers. You said that people 65 years and older sat in the movie remembering. You can count this 60 year old too.
I led my next door neighbor to the Lord the next day. God was alive in me. People seem to discount youth. We know, though, that Paul addresses this. 😊
Alisa, I love listening to you and your dad relating. It is very special.
God bless all y’all.
I love your dad I bought every one of those records when I was in college I did an interview with your father so when I called I got your mother his wife and I asked her formation to speak with your dad to do the interview so cool she hollered out for your dad he came to the phone he was so humble when all I really wanted to do is just to talk to him at some of the lowest points in my life after all these years your dad's voice and Ministry always will haul me back in to the I wish I would have gotten to talk to him in real life
I was from Buffalo NY and was in a commune there for two years and then I felt the Lord wanted me to attend Calvary Chapel. To get there, I went on a faith walk hitchhiking across Canada from Toronto to Vancouver and then down the west coast to end up in Costa Mesa. I just wanted God to lead and guide me and take whatever time it too to do what God had for me. It ended up being about 6 weeks. It was wonderful to see God's provision and the many wonderful works He did. I arrived in late 1972. I never met or heard Lonnie. I want to ask Chuck a question. I was told that Love Song had made a trip to somewhere (possibly the Philippines?). Someone told me that there was an occasion when someone had ministered by speaking in tongues and the people heard the message in their own language. Is there any truth in that story?
Thanks for sharing with your dad some background history of this story!
One of the 2 best pastor teachers I know told us to go see this movie. I WAS BORN IN 67 SO ALL new to me.
Why pay money to see a movie that supports actors like Roumie who speaks to the dead, asks the dead for a sign and believes he receives a sign from the dead? If he isn’t a believer why are we paying money to support his work? Isn’t this like paying to use Hillsong and Bethel and Elevation music? Can you clarify?
yes, this!
I was thinking the same thing. That actor being involved means a lot of people won't see the film, myself included. Are we going to be seeing his face everywhere now because of "The -Chosen- Counterfeit"? I seriously hope not.
What sweeping statements!
Love the movie. I’m 70 and this movement was one of many things God used to capture my heart and lead me to a personal relationship with his Son, Jesus. None were perfect, but He used them! ❤️🙏🏽
I didn't know until now that you are Chuck Girard's daughter Alisa! I was part of a folk group in the mid-1970s that sang their songs. Love Song were great. And then I saw Chuck at a couple of concerts in Australia. Great!
Thanks for having your dad on. I bought his book, Rock & Roll Preacher and enjoyed it immensely. My brother introduced me to the first Love Song album when I was 13 or 14, so Chuck is one of my heroes. Loved Zoegirl too. Like Chuck, it took me a while to realize this wasn't a documentary and I enjoyed it more the second time. The movie inspired me to upload a Jesus Revolution documentary I made 23 years ago (for local public access cable TV) to youtube. So glad the Jesus movement is being remembered!
Chuck Smith told me (and 2000 other people sitting in the church one Sunday night back then) that he had a very small congregation in Huntington Beach a few years before. He said that he basically preached topical messages and that he got to the point where he was finding it difficult to come up with new topical messages. So he said to himself, that he was going to just teach the Bible chapter to chapter, verse to verse. And shortly after he started doing that. The Lord honored this and started to bringing in more an more people to the services. And he continued just preaching the straight Word and God blessed it. Shortly after that the events of the movie started.
Yep! Exactly what Pastor Chuck said and did.
I can’t believe your promoting this in any way. It just shows that personal experience, connections, and relationships, are very influential and can strongly influence our discernment. Your family and personal connections have clearly delegitimized your outlook from a Biblical perspective, which has come to define your normal observation and commentary.
The Love Song record was on constantly in our Maranatha House in the early 70's. Found the CD a few years ago and still love the music. So interesting to know Chuck Girard is your dad!
I'm so floored that your dad is Chuck Girard! I listen to my old Love Song and Chuck Girard albums all the time. When I'm down, I listen to "Lay Your Burden Down" and "Feel the Love." They still give me goosebumps!
I have most of these albums, love song , the way and others you mentioned and heard many of them in person in Yuba City Cal along with 2 chapter of acts. I put an engine in Petra’s truck when they were just getting started . Heard Chuck several times in person! These interviews are bringing back so many good memories and my heart is longing for a new move of God for our country. God Bless praise his holy name!!🙏🙏✝️
I knew Chuck Smith well enough to agree with your assessment of him, Alisa. Pastor Chuck was such a man of FAITH in God’s. Holy word!
Great discussion Alisa. I particularly enjoyed your discussion with your father who actually lived through the 'Jesus Revolution' and was portrayed as a character in the film. I came of age during the same period as your father, but l am Canadian and lived in Canada during the Jesus Movement. I certainly experienced many hippies during this period and played at the lifestyle myself for a time. Mostly in the early seventies. I however never experienced the Jesus movement. I did however come to Christ about twenty years ago and have never looked back. Wishing you continued success in your ministry!
I have appreciated your Dad so much throughout his entire ministry, having found Love Song in the early 70s in Alabama (as Jesus Music slowly made its way across the country). I got to meet your Dad in the mid 90s when he came to our church in South Carolina. I purchased a 4-CD (DVD?) worship seminar by your Dad. You're right when you say that he's "more charismatic." To me, that's a wonderful thing...as he is just following what the Word plainly says and acting on it. LOVED the movie. But I knew enough about the "creative" inconsistencies and errors that I could've been a script consultant! By the way...the members of Love Song were way cooler and much better looking in real life. 😆
Ya, i only figured out recently that Chuck Girard was Alisa's dad.
My father was very involved in the Jesus movement wave as it made it's way into Canada. He had his own tracks printed that he would hand out, and pick up hitch hikers; he held a weekly Bible study in our home that filled up every Thursday with long hair hippie and big Afro bearded types. We grew up listening to Chuck Girard and Larry Norman and Randy Stonehill and maranatha music. There's no doubt it was a powerful movement in the North American Church. I pray it won't be our last chance. ❤️
The protrayal of the Smiths' and their little congregation's early hostility toward hippies may have been inaccurate in their specific case, but it absolutely is an accurate general portrayal of the vast majority of pastors, elders, and church members of that time. So it still fits the overall story line because for the most part that is how it really was. Dave Wilkerson, for example, was a very vocal opponent of even the very idea of witnessing to hippies, let alone allowing them into a church, and it took a while for him to come around. And yet even he and Pat Boone portrayed the druggies of 1959 New York City as hippies in The Cross and the Switchblade, as far a cry from the flower children as could be, and that whole story took place several years before there was even such a thing as hippies and hippie garb and hippie lingo, all of which appear, grossly misrepresented, in that movie. Jesus Revolution is way more accurate for the most part, and the few inaccuracies discussed in this vid are of far less consequence.
For my part, I wanted nothing to do with being an active Christian (even though I was a believer in a general, mostly Catholic sense) until I learned that there were hippies getting turned on to Jesus. That would be worth checking out, I felt, and it was! If Jesus was good enough for those who were rebelling against the establishment he was good enough for me.
I went to see the movie tonight and to be totally honest the movie disturbed me, it made me uncomfortable. At one point I was going to leave the theater, but out of respect for other movie goers I stayed until the end. It left me with a lot of questions about the authenticity of this "Jesus Revolution."
Thanks for talking a little about Kathryn Kulman because I have some issues with her and I was surprised as well that Corrie ten Boom did an interview with her
I loved this movie which took me right back to my own high school years (1968-72) and faith walk in church youth group and Love Song music (still have my albums from Love Song, 2nd Chapter of Acts, etc.). Loved the way they captured the spirit and essence of that particular time….saw my clothes and heard my words! As you noted, the baptism scene with Lonnie and Greg was so well-done, depicting the death to sin and resurrection to a new life in Christ. However, also as you said, I noticed the Gospel was never clearly stated in the film even with the Chuck Smith sermons portrayal….almost but never specifically or simply. Still, this is my most favorite movie in a LONG time to bring Jesus to our culture today. ❤
Love hearing your dad talk about those days. (I remember when Love Song came to Lake Avenue in 1970!) I am wondering if you are going to address any of the concerns Joe Schimmel of Good Fight ministries has pointed out about this movie--concerns I share.
Going to find this now. Ty
Oh my gosh; Children of the Day was the first Christian music record I ever bought! I loved them! Later it was Barry McGuire, Randy Stonehill, Keith Green, and Love Song!
I and 6 other people just left the movie theater about 1hour ago. This movie was the best movie I have ever seen. I cried with gratefulness for all God has done for my Christian brothers and sisters and myself. The movie shows you what is really important and gets a person to see that there is something better than money, sex, fame and all the world has to offer. Rather there is eternal life, holiness, goodness, forgiveness and true love and charity. Jesus Christ is lord and every knee will bow. The movie shows that His kingdom will come and His will, will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Salvation is trusting Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour in your heart by believing how that Christ shed His blood, and died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day for our justification. By Grace through Faith! Gospel of your Salvation (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Eph. 1:7, 1:12-14; 2 Cor. 5:21)
Repenting & turning from your sins, commiting & giving your life to Christ is AFTER salvation and is a sanctification issue. I cringe when I hear Christians put the cart before the horse and pervert the gospel of grace by adding works to it.
Other than that I like your videos Alisa. ❤️
Yes. And it comes from the influence of free mason Ray Comfort on young Christians.
@@WithoutGodYouCantDoDiddlySquat Amen. Ray Comfort doesn't have any business whatsoever witnessing his perverted gospel to people. Ughh. He's a devil.. Smh.
I agree.
Not everyone’s story is as positive with this movement and there was a lot of very rotten fruit produced. Pastor Chuck was a very firm Arminian and the pastors under him would not teach any doctrines of grace while he was still alive. Especially the old school churches. There is a reason those churches are not as plentiful as they used to be. We know people that were mocked and publicly chastised for even asking about these doctrines when they came up in scripture, they were always skimmed over and avoided. Very sad. Can’t speak for the current churches, a lot have broken off from the “dove” and tried to get away from the CC stigma. Where sin is glorified even in a testimony, God is not. Use much discretion and discernment with this denomination (that says it isn’t a denomination:)
Really touching discussion and interview with your dad! Loved it! Heads up - there’s a buzz in the audio starting at 1:09:45 or so. Thank you for all you do!
I can see how someone could have really enjoyed this movie. Growing up in a small town, lower middle class family in the 70's, I was far removed from all of this. I had never heard of any of it. My wife was very familiar with the names and the events. Perhaps because she grew up in a much bigger city.
About 30 minutes in I began making predictions that this was a precursor to most if not all of modern false teaching. 10 minutes later I see Lonnie go into his "word of faith" routine. Yup! Several times I kept seeing things that reminded me of Benny Hinn, Joel O'Steen, Joyce Meyers and others.
I'm convinced that this movement became a huge gateway for modern day heresies. There were lots of people coming to Jesus and becoming leaders in the movement. Very few were grounded in the word of God. Most were grounded in some form of eastern mysticism as was very typical of the hippie movement/drug culture.
Overall, I would say this movement has been disastrous in it's effect on today's churches.
When the true church is raptured, don't worry. It's more likely your church won't be affected that much.
Are we talking about the pastors sin of homosexuality and dying of AIDS … just curious
You were very negative about the Asbury University revival, so glad you did not have this platform to criticized the revival at Wheaton College in 1994. Read Garth Roselle's history of Evangelicalism or "dynamics od Spiritual renewal" Br Dr. Richard Lovelace.
Making a commitment doesn't save you. Believing the correct gospel does 1 Cor 15:1-4
I'm about half way through this video and I just realized your dad is Chuck Girard!!!! So cool!! 😍
Great discussion. Good balance. I thank God for the Jesus revolution and all the good fruit that came out of it. May His Holy Spirit move and work powerfully among us today!