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    Welcome to another ABANDONED Camera video! In this episode, we take a look at RED Digital Cinema's failed venture into smartphones that were supposed to support their camera systems and one camera that never came out. The Red Lithium.
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    0:00 The RED Hydrogen One and Red Lithium
    0:56 The History leading to the Red Hydrogen
    1:56 RED HYDROGEN Announcement Party
    2:53 We got our hands on the Hydrogen one!
    3:54 What was this camera? INSANE
    4:40 The "Holographic" Screen
    5:44 Industry response to the phone
    6:10 Worst tech product of 2018
    7:27 Lucid and LEia Partnerships and the RED LITHIUM
    9:24 RED Hydrogen One Screen "lightfield" tech
    10:11 LG did "almost" the same thing 7 years prior
    11:02 Jannard's pushback against reviewers
    12:14 The ABANDONMENT of the RED HYDROGEN ONE
    13:32 Respect is owed to Jim Jannard
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Komentáře • 229

  • @chenseanxy
    @chenseanxy Před rokem +288

    At least they didn't patent the idea of just any camera being on a mobile phone

  • @renderjunkie
    @renderjunkie Před rokem +162

    The sad part of all this Hydrogen fiasco is that if the company had focused exclusively on deliver a good phone with a decent 2D screeen and a great camera developed by RED, the project could have been a success. Probably the market is still there.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +13

      Exactly! Way too many gimmicks

    • @billyoung9538
      @billyoung9538 Před rokem +14

      Sony's Xperia 1 series of phones have been attempting to target this market. I have a second gen Xperia 1 my self, and in many ways love it. That said I won't ever buy another Sony Xperia 1 or equivalent Sony phone for one major reason. Sony has failed to update the software on slightly older models running near identical hardware. There is no reason they couldn't update the software, but they haven't, and the result is that the phones are WAY over priced if Sony won't give them the support they deserve. So next time around I'll probably shift to an iPhone as Apple updates the apps for all models that can run them.

    • @RonaldoTalison
      @RonaldoTalison Před rokem +5

      Same thing for Samsung. They update their flagships for 5 years now. Sony don't do it because they don't want to. A real bummer.

    • @Ryan23251
      @Ryan23251 Před rokem +1

      The lg v10 is still my favorite smartphone of all time. IR sensor to control any device, really great sensors paired with great lenses and great software that easily allows you to manually control aperture, ISO, framerate, and color temp while recording. It also had RAW format. I miss the days when smart phones were built to make your life easier

    • @Approach_Medium
      @Approach_Medium Před rokem

      @@billyoung9538 This is good to know, as somebody who was completely in love with my Hydrogen and also a loyal Sony Alpha user my next step was going to be a Sony phone, but i settled on the google pixel as my budget was not there to spend another thousand dollars on a smartphone. The Red served me well for 4 years, i tried to replace it 3 times and failed. The pixel finally replaced it when apps stopped working on android 8.1 and i had no choice. I love my pixel, but its in a case and its not faced with the abuse my Hydrogen was

  • @gabrielmachadobsb
    @gabrielmachadobsb Před rokem +23

    RED describing it as "holographic" was absurd when it basically was a 3DS that couldn't play Mario Kart

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +3

      Yep! They had some "new" tech for the screen but it was marginally an upgrade 😂

    • @purpleduggy7680
      @purpleduggy7680 Před rokem

      holograph comes from the Greek words ὅλος (holos; "whole") and γραφή (graphē; "writing" or "drawing"). A hologram is a recording of an interference pattern which can reproduce a 3D light field using diffraction. This 3D on the RED Hydrogen as well as the 3DS is holographic. The holograph you're imagining from Star Wars is not really a hologram, it is Spatial Light Rendering. The only company who has achieved this is Light Field Lab's SolidLight

    • @gwenlop9512
      @gwenlop9512 Před 27 dny

      The worse part is is at least a 3DS has FULL ANALOG volume and 3D controls, plus a massive library of games you can slot into your 3DS, and you can actually mod it to make it better.

  • @Bast6
    @Bast6 Před rokem +35

    I'm pretty sure at some point during the Hydrogen first couple of announcement, it was mentionned that Avatar 2 and it sequels would be released in 3D exclusively on that phone (meaning it would be the only way to watch it in 3D outside of the theater release). It was also said that James Cameron signed on to shoot the film with RED cameras THEN when the phone turned out to be... What it is, there was the big announcement with Jon Landau, James Cameron and the Cine Alta team at Sony that the films would be shot on Venice cameras and that they made the Rialto system for/with Cameron (and if we spend time searching the web and RedSuer we might still be able to find everything).
    Another thing : some Hydrogen One early adopters (via a preorder program I suppose) were offered a 1000-ish US Dollars discount on a RED Komodo preorder.

  • @wreck2
    @wreck2 Před rokem +44

    I was a day 1 pre-order, and got the "Houdini" pre-production model, I went full fanboy on this one. Was looking forward to the camera modules that never came to be. I did personally love the H4V, but 95% of the people I would show it off to hated it / thought it was a bad party trick. Needless to say, it was my daily driver up until the side button stopped working after 4 years, not too bad. They gave Hydrogen owners a $1000 discount off of the Komodo for the missing camera modules, but I already had an Epic, and that price was still too high for what I was thinking the 'module' would cost, so I passed. My friends call it the "Scam phone" and I can't blame them, lol.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      No I totally get it! Yep! I just think they focused on too many gimmicks to start off with. Just go with a phone with pro cinematographer features, lens attachment features, and the ability to attach as a camera monitor. 🔥product, but they didn't do that.

    • @AlokSomani
      @AlokSomani Před 10 měsíci

      Same exact boat as you. My Houdini's side button failed maybe 2 years in though. I did enjoy the color science of the cameras though -- find it to be better than my current iPhone, other than the natural limitations of dynamic range from that old hardware.
      The only thing that made the whole project a failure though, in my opinion, is that they gave up on it. If they had continued making improvements and gone for a v2, I would have continued to support it and think the second generation would be vastly improved.

  • @toddpeterson5904
    @toddpeterson5904 Před rokem +86

    I attended the announcement party for the Hydrogen. They had little booths where you could experience a 3D video playing, spatial sound, and other features. I was hoping for something awesome, but the 3D wasn't that good. The phone itself was just a regular android phone. Jim showed off a manual lens connected to the camera, but wouldn't let anyone touch it or use it. Strangely, the thing that impressed me the most was the spatial sound, which was developed by a French company. They had a sound booth where you could listen to a helicopter flying around. It truly gave the impression of being surrounded by speakers.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +5

      Interesting! Yeah that event seemed kind of weirddd. I think if they could have gotten the phone to work with actual lenses, could have been cool.

    • @lilmanydj
      @lilmanydj Před rokem

      Wait did the phone give the impression of being surrounded by speakers?

    • @toddpeterson5904
      @toddpeterson5904 Před rokem +1

      @@lilmanydj Yeah. It had 3D sound to complete the 3D experience along with the screen.

    • @toddpeterson5904
      @toddpeterson5904 Před rokem +6

      @@FrameVoyager They probably could have carved out an interesting niche if they had skipped the 3D gimmick and tried to have the best smartphone camera (with interchangeable lenses). That being said, the phone industry is brutally competitive. You need something notably new every year, year after year. Even when the Hydrogen did finally ship it only supported an older version of Android. Developing software and hardware improvements to keep up with Apple and Samsung would have been a herculean feat.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      @@toddpeterson5904 for real! And I totally agree. They did WAY TOO MUCH for this product

  • @lear60man
    @lear60man Před rokem +3

    Last year I happened to stumble upon a NOS Red Hydrogen One on Ebay and bought one for something like $150 as a back up to my Note 10+. The red is an amazing phone for a buck fiddy. Its built like tank, looks cool, works well and has a great battery. Now for some reason, they are going for $400+ which I cant explain.

  • @87solarsky
    @87solarsky Před rokem +11

    PARENT TROLL MAKES BAD PHONE THAT NOBODY WANTS. THE END.

  • @FergVision
    @FergVision Před rokem +15

    I just can’t wrap my head around how much of a failure this was but such a good idea. I think Sony finally released a phone like this for their cinema cameras recently without all the Silly 3D stuff.
    RED could have Teamed up with like Sony or LG or take your pick of camera/phone companies and actually been able to make what they said but, you know, they’re RED.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +4

      Yep! They focused on too many gimmicks to start off with. Just go with a phone with pro cinematographer features, lens attachment features, and the ability to attach as a camera monitor. 🔥product, but they didn't do that.

  • @xWood4000
    @xWood4000 Před rokem +7

    I think the Sony Xperia Pro is similar to what the Hydrogen one could have been. But the Xperia doesn't make a ton of sense honestly, it's so expensive that you can just buy a normal phone and a smallhd monitor

  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo Před rokem +5

    The way they were hyping this phone with the pogo pins everyone was speculating that red was going to make something similar to what Samsung did with their Android based cameras. A red for 2500 that had modules. Nope. Just an expensive phone with an unimpressive camera

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately yes. Sounded like internally for the second phone they were going to have all the adapters and attachments

  • @christoffer886
    @christoffer886 Před rokem +9

    You should have a short follow-up video on how Red gave a discount on early adopters of Komodo because of the Hydrogen, giving them a discount set to the cost of the Hydrogen. Hydrogen became a sort of backup monitor for anyone who had a Komodo.

  • @lelluc
    @lelluc Před rokem +6

    I'm glad sony has started to make photography/film phones like what people hoped the hydrogen to be, with no gimmicks!

  • @michaeltorumedia
    @michaeltorumedia Před rokem +2

    A baffling project for sure 😳 Love the breakdown videos as always 👊

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis Před 7 měsíci +1

    Apple bringing affordable LiDAR to their phones is a bigger revolution...

  • @AyStar
    @AyStar Před rokem +2

    Finally, at long last. The coveted Hydrogen video. Banger video as always. Gosh I was so eager to try this phone out for myself so years.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      Appreciate it! Fun topic to cover. And yeahhh, would have been cool if it had worked out

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Před rokem +2

    Been waiting all week for this

  • @Duck7n8
    @Duck7n8 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Not gonna li, the red hydrogen one was an experimental phone, if the price wasn't that high, people would finally recognize how awesome the phone is!
    And im typing this comment with a red hydrogen one

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 Před rokem +2

    The only thing Hydrogen got right, was the price. Paved the way to absurdity.

  • @JeremiahTrue
    @JeremiahTrue Před rokem

    I was so interested in that camera but never knew what happened with it

  • @localhost4460
    @localhost4460 Před rokem +1

    RED was an innovator and now it's litigious patent troll.

  • @jabezhane
    @jabezhane Před rokem +2

    I just remember all the reviews at the time going "oh...this is...disappointing!"

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      Yep! They focused on too many gimmicks to start off with. Just go with a phone with pro cinematographer features, lens attachment features, and the ability to attach as a camera monitor. 🔥product, but they didn't do that.

  • @jackkraken3888
    @jackkraken3888 Před rokem

    Hologram effect!
    Amazon Firephone:"First time eh?"

  • @Three60Mafia
    @Three60Mafia Před rokem +2

    The fact that this thing, for all its faults, did NOT have the best cameras/camera software of all time - just makes it a lot sadder. They missed every single mark on this one possible.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +2

      They didn't even work with the main RED team on the camera. It operated almost as a separate company. Just a strange product

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse Před rokem +4

    Great job! Love the ABANDONED series!

  • @RodBlanc
    @RodBlanc Před rokem +1

    the new Xiaomi 12S Ultra Concept is a show on how this phone could have been made. Imagine if this phone had a sensor that size and a clip to attach lenses. It would sell crazy

    • @alexamderhamiltom5238
      @alexamderhamiltom5238 Před rokem

      looking for this comment, it actually really weird how sony not doing this.

  • @ElusiveFrame
    @ElusiveFrame Před rokem +2

    I remember MKBHD showing it off.
    It was one of the weirdest announcements.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      So weird! Haha just a cool bizzarre product. I love it

  • @Kashilembo
    @Kashilembo Před rokem +1

    I was waiting for this video to drop

  • @retrothing
    @retrothing Před rokem +1

    I still have that HTC phone! Looks like it may have slightly better interocular distance on those lenses than the RED did. 😁 It was a terrific novelty. I suppose it would have been cool to see a pro evolution which it sounds like RED missed the boat on. Guess I’ll go back to shooting with my 3DS and my Aiptek 3D… 🤷‍♂️

  • @maxsaltin1001
    @maxsaltin1001 Před rokem +2

    Jannard deserves no respect. Sony, Canon or others would definitly have made compressed Raw in some time, no doubt.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      Oh, for sure. But RED saw the potential first and forced the industry into it. Probably why we got an Alexa from ARRI when we did. But I don't necessarily love how they went about doing it

  • @EVRLYNMedia
    @EVRLYNMedia Před rokem

    I was wondering when you'd do an episode on this! Proud owner of a Hydrogen One that i still daily drive

  • @javidaderson
    @javidaderson Před rokem

    I remember this being the first MKHD roast of a device.

  • @michaelangeloabarreto4588

    I was always confused as to why they would advertise the 3D screen like it's not be done before. Like..the 3DS exists

  • @Edwin--
    @Edwin-- Před rokem +1

    Thanks for another nice episode! Is history currently repeating itself with the Leitz Phone 1 over in photography land, only released for the Japanese market by Leica...?

  • @Editor905
    @Editor905 Před rokem

    SONY: "That' s just THE F..KING GREAT IDEA!" (constructing Xperia Pro\Pro i)
    😂😂😂

  • @rw3452
    @rw3452 Před rokem +2

    Red advanced yes, but has held back massively so I’m not giving them any brownie points.

  • @TheYouTubeMechanic
    @TheYouTubeMechanic Před rokem

    Damn. He was really hanging his hat on that phone.

  • @ozkflx
    @ozkflx Před rokem

    This was just too ahead of its time.

  • @Rafotofilmsproductions
    @Rafotofilmsproductions Před 10 měsíci

    One question? How to or can it be connect it to a dsmc2 as announced?

  • @kid_rajah
    @kid_rajah Před rokem

    I remember watching Marquis Brownlee’s review of the Red Phone and at the time i had the iPhone 5s and was going to upgrade to the iPhone 7plus. I thought “this thing will never sell at over $1,000 for an android phone.
    Today I have the iPhone 14 Pro Max at $1,700. My, How times have change.

  • @articshifter5535
    @articshifter5535 Před 9 měsíci

    The fact that a smaller company in cinema try to make a phone is good. I would buy the hydrogen over the iPhone 14 Pro Max that I’m currently running. And to be fair, I remember a CZcamsr a year before the phone actually came out, was talking about how great the phone was using it, but when it finally officially came out, all of a sudden he went back on what he said.

  • @UncommonManFromEarth
    @UncommonManFromEarth Před rokem +2

    At the time I worked with a rental company that has a lot of RED Cameras so they got one. I really wasn't impressed with it, you should never over sell and under deliver. It was very disappointing.

  • @TheHealinZone
    @TheHealinZone Před 9 měsíci

    Where can I find the attachments?

  • @definingslawek4731
    @definingslawek4731 Před rokem

    These are the guys who said the minimags are a super special custom data medium for their cameras and that's why they cost 2500 for 480gb, when in reality they were using off the shelf, cheap consumer ssd's running free and publicly available firmwares lol.

  • @waylonboner
    @waylonboner Před rokem

    I love these videos just like everyone else. I was watching Miami Vice the other night haha and I just couldn’t get over the camera so like a nerd I looked it up, Thomson Viper. The more I read about the sensor and specs the more intrigued I was. Could you do a video on this???

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      That script may or may not be already written 👀

    • @waylonboner
      @waylonboner Před rokem

      @@FrameVoyager yessss, also shout out collateral

  • @AlexandreBugado
    @AlexandreBugado Před rokem

    In the end, all that matters is that this phone can be the perfect 3DS emulator due to it's screen

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers Před rokem +1

    I was so excited about this when they announced it...... Oooops

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      Yeahhhhh, it should have been good. But they didn't focus on making it that useful for pro cinematographers.

  • @mikevlack7687
    @mikevlack7687 Před rokem

    The 3D monitor on the Nintendo 3DS was far better. On the release day, the first phones were delivered and almost straight away people were trying to sell them at a loss. It was obvious within a few hours that it wasn't going to be a success.

  • @ruslanyanko7991
    @ruslanyanko7991 Před rokem +1

    Maybe do the The Viper Filmstream next, it's even less known that the others on the list

  • @thelemonpepperdon
    @thelemonpepperdon Před rokem

    Unbox Therapy didn't like it? The check from Red must of bounced 😂

  • @chrisfratz
    @chrisfratz Před rokem +2

    Honestly, if I had the money I would probably buy this phone off eBay just so I could use it to watch rips of my 3D Blu-rays on it. Assuming of course it supports any stereoscopic 3D content. I've been getting into 3D Blu-rays over the last year and the only way I'm able to watch them is with my VR headset, which is fine but sometimes I just don't want to have to put it on to be able to watch stuff.

  • @azv343
    @azv343 Před rokem +1

    Those two lenses are too close together, anything photographed with that phone further away than 6 feet won't have much depth.

  • @javebjorkman
    @javebjorkman Před rokem +1

    Amazon did this 3D party trick thing too

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      Yeahhh, I mean it's cool for like 2 seconds and then just a gimmick

  • @SirSeabass
    @SirSeabass Před rokem

    Itd be cool to see the story behind the Flip cameras. I know it's a consumer camera but it's the first one i owned sent ñ and shot with. I made a short documentary for school

  • @Approach_Medium
    @Approach_Medium Před rokem

    People can hate on this thing all they want. It got me to stop taking my DSLR with me literally everywhere. I was able to one handed shoot photos. With the later color science updates on the camera software, the photos got better than the early reviews. The only reasons i stopped using my hydrogen is the glass across the primary camera cracked, making photos in lighted situations difficult, and the lack of apps being supported anymore for android 8.1. The battery still lasts amazing. its the ONLY phone ive ever rocked without a case, it doesnt need one. It took all of my abuse from working on cars, to falling out of my jeep, to working on the railroad. I would pay for another phone like this again. It was rugged and comfortable and took very good photos, more along the lines of what a photographer would want and not the wow look at how we over processed this iPhone photo type stuff.

  • @FlyingEyes27
    @FlyingEyes27 Před rokem

    The New 3DS can shot videos in 3D too. 😃
    But it looks like 144 Pixel videos with 12 FPS.
    A maxture of a good price and a little bit more like focus on Camera and the phone becomes a top selling product.
    But forgetting what RED primarily is (a Camera Company) was the leak on the sinking Hydrogen Ship

  • @Clay3613
    @Clay3613 Před rokem

    Damn, this crappy phone killed a 3D comeback! I love my 3DTV and IMAX...

  • @toneohm
    @toneohm Před rokem +1

    Love your channel

  • @daileydose6493
    @daileydose6493 Před rokem +1

    Love the new intro!

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R Před rokem +1

    Didn't need to exist. It was for a customer who never existed

  • @treesworld_lp
    @treesworld_lp Před rokem

    I am watching this on my RED Hydrogen One rn hoping for a second model to get announced

  • @Da_Man_1221
    @Da_Man_1221 Před rokem

    Considering Sony’s success in the Venice line and rumors of Canon dropping new cine offerings at NAB maybe it’s time to talk about the other forgotten Big cine player, Panasonic and the Varicam line which seems to be knocking on deaths door. The EVA 1 was the last Varicam to be released in 2018 and there has been no word on updates or new cameras also the prices on the existing cams (Varicam LT specifically) have been dropped significantly. Hope isn’t the case because I love how Panasonic cameras handle and the images you get are stellar (they do constantly site their “Varicam look” when promoting their Lumix video cameras so maybe it still has a pulse)

  • @visual-enthusiast
    @visual-enthusiast Před rokem +1

    Red Camera Patent No. 234098N:
    How to take photos with a phone while holding it with one or 2 hands.

  • @flolorenzo
    @flolorenzo Před rokem +3

    Wasn't this the same phone everyone used in the netflix movie Don't look up.

  • @calistheticsmurdergeese

    They're 130 dollars on Amazon. I legit still want one.

  • @RyanFreshhh
    @RyanFreshhh Před rokem +1

    For a quick second, I thought this was about the flip cam

  • @filmtonyvalles
    @filmtonyvalles Před rokem +1

    I believe that RED's attempt to create a phone, which ultimately failed, is nothing out of the ordinary and shouldn't be ridiculed. In fact, I think it's commendable that they attempted to achieve what many deemed impossible. RED had a "can-do" attitude and a history of success, which drove them to pursue this venture.
    Although the RED Hydrogen did not evolve further, it presented an opportunity for the company to create something remarkable. While it may not have been suitable for everyday use, it could have been a perfect device for on-set lifestyle. It could have served as an excellent accessory for controlling their cameras, as well as a monitor for 3D shooting. Moreover, it could have had LTE capabilities to download software updates and use applications that require connectivity.
    When I reflect on the first GoPro, I see a product that was initially in its early stages, but it eventually became one of the most significant inventions of our time. Similarly, the RED Hydrogen was a great product that was in its early stages. It's essential to acknowledge that innovations take time and dedication to evolve into something great.
    Overall, I think that RED's attempt to create a phone was not ridiculous. Instead, it showed their determination to create a revolutionary device. While it may not have been a commercial success, it presented an opportunity for the company to create something remarkable in the future.

  • @108u9
    @108u9 Před rokem +2

    12:58 Jannard was ABANDONED

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Před rokem +1

    Why i wanted this phone primarily was the high tech body. My latest pixel 6 pro was 1100usd and the glass body is so slippery it LITERALLY slides on a flat table. No exaggeration... You can just set it down and itll slowly start moving.
    Why premium phone makers don't have carbon fiber /Ti bodies is beyond me. Id pay an extra few hundred for a carbon fiber chasis on my pixels.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      For sure! But that was like the only good thing about it haha

  • @sonidojamon
    @sonidojamon Před rokem +1

    They should have called the camera... R3D 😂😂😂

  • @CerneStudios
    @CerneStudios Před rokem +1

    nice!! Drop a video about Red and their sneaky things, Jinny mag vs Red and their overhyped 20x more expensive rebranded cheap components and their weird patents. There's a lot of questionable things in the company

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      Already covered it a bit in the 28k video!

    • @CerneStudios
      @CerneStudios Před rokem +1

      ​@@FrameVoyager yess but Jinny tech dropped a couple more videos in the past months, would be interesting to put together a more simple/shorter way to describe what has been happening :) just an idea for a future video

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      @@CerneStudios that's true! Could be an interesting video! We covered it a bit but I'm sure we could cover it in a series like "camera companies lied about x" or!! I could try and get a jinni tech interview 👀

  • @lavavex
    @lavavex Před rokem

    I have a hydrogen one as my work phone right now, lol

  • @versi0nzero
    @versi0nzero Před rokem

    i remember watching all the TERRIBLE reviews when this first released

  • @matthewwalewangko1995

    I bought a Leia Pad when they were available and it's surprisingly outlasted my OnePlus 8. I'd love to see a video about Lightfield cameras and tech, or a 3D camera in general. Then again, the Leia Pad hasn't had an update in a while and the last update to my OnePlus borked it so that's definitely some personal bias fodder.

    • @AlokSomani
      @AlokSomani Před 10 měsíci

      How is the Leia Pad's screen compared to the Hydrogen? How is it in isolation as a 3D screen? Curious as a former Hydrogen owner.

    • @matthewwalewangko1995
      @matthewwalewangko1995 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@AlokSomani I presume that the screen is as good or better than the hydrogen one.
      I've not owned a hydrogen, but my original Leia pad is still going strong and looking nice and the second Leia pad looks better to me.
      Also apparently iPhone 15 will have "spatial cameras" so hopefully more 3D content is made.

  • @Ranger7Studios
    @Ranger7Studios Před rokem +1

    I got to play with one of these at the Verizon store. They were awful.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      Yeah the one I got was not great 😅 interesting concept but way too over hyped

  • @killacram7150
    @killacram7150 Před rokem

    I have both versions titanium and aluminum!!! I really love them still use them ! Not bad though for there one and only phone!!! Mine still work great!

  • @asmrdestiny
    @asmrdestiny Před rokem

    Being a RED Epic-W owner I was excited for the RED phone but ultimately I didn’t buy it due to price…..funny how prices for phones in 2023 are higher than this now 🤷🏻

  • @bobbylasers
    @bobbylasers Před rokem +1

    My life's work... Proceeds to tank reputation 🤦

  • @ScottBalkum
    @ScottBalkum Před rokem

    Hydrogen was absolutely horrible. One of the worst products with the RED name on it. I had hopes for the camera portion but not the 3D. Once I saw the 3D, I laughed and said, nope, exactly what I thought. Horrible.

  • @USSRDragon
    @USSRDragon Před rokem

    I have one of these phones I use as a PDA at work and it has ok battery life, about 60% usage in a day, screen is acceptable, 3d feature always a neat gimmick to show people, but its camera leaves alot to be desired. It supports 60fps recording, but when the files are played back it plays them at half speed, even using VLC. Same with 120 on a lower resolution, 30fps play back. That is actually dumb. The quality of the camera doesn’t even compare to my Oneplus 7T either, so why does it have a lossless 100mb bit rate option on videos? The phone just has a lot of weird quirks to it, but for $100 I picked it up for its a fun little gadget.

  • @DaBoaringDragon
    @DaBoaringDragon Před rokem

    Didn’t the Amazon Fire phone have a similar type of display?

  • @nite2332
    @nite2332 Před rokem +1

    I was dumb enough to buy this phone. The phone is terrible, but virtually indestructible. I bought another phone two years later. That's broke last year and I"m back to using my Red. Everyone makes fun of me, but I can't break this phone.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem +1

      They got one thing right and that's the body of the phone. Just indestructible! They had something here if they just didn't go crazy spending on the "holographic" screen. Just a simple case of trying to do too much with the first iteration of a product.

    • @nite2332
      @nite2332 Před rokem

      @@FrameVoyager What really upset me was the poor quality of the camera. The gimmicky "holographic" screen is crap, and if they'd just used a good quality screen from that time period it would have been fine. But the camera is absolute crap. My daughter was 12 at the time and got her first phone. That used iphone was better than my "state of the art" Red phone. This was a company known for their cameras, why farm it out. But I will give them some credit. While the fingerprint sensor has been broken for about the entire time I've had the phone, this damn thing won't quit.

  • @wynoglia
    @wynoglia Před rokem

    has xiaomi taken up the mantle in the smallest of ways tho? with the 12s ultra

  • @annekedebruyn7797
    @annekedebruyn7797 Před rokem +1

    It's funny how we all thought that you would be able to use your phone as a monitor via the pins in the back and that was exactly what the phone couldn't do.
    It was so disappointing that it didn't do that (at least on release.) They really only had to do that to make it somewhat worth it for RED shooters. Something Sony was able to do at that time.

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      If they focused on that and the lens mounts and pro cinematographer features this phone would have worked. The screen was a dumb costly decision

    • @purpleduggy7680
      @purpleduggy7680 Před rokem +1

      It can do that. It has video in, and audio in on the pins on the back, as well as a number of other connections, a feature no other phone has, and the video in does work on Red Cine cameras, I use mine as a monitor even today. A number of community projects have built working modules for this phone. I think this phone is still awesome in 2023 and I say this while owning a iPhone 14 Pro.

  • @GammaScorpio
    @GammaScorpio Před rokem

    Basically a 2012 HTC Evo 3D, which had the same style of display and camera system.
    Nothing new..

  • @tc227
    @tc227 Před rokem +1

    7:08 Did they put a MS-Optics 28/4 lens on the phone?
    EDIT: Upon further comparison, It has some small differences to the actual MS-Optics 28/4 PERAR Super Triplet. My guess would be they made a lens model that is *heavily* inspired by MS-Optics, along with the exact name and "MC" marking.

  • @cameramaker
    @cameramaker Před rokem

    It always amazes me their speak - "we had no idea what we are doing" (not only here, but also on red one). My reply is - then dont do it. Either I know what I want to do, or I dont. It looks pretty bad to hear them say that they are clueless scammers.

  • @SynthRockViking
    @SynthRockViking Před rokem

    Why though, did he feel a holy passiontn make a phone?
    And now I want one

  • @komekko373
    @komekko373 Před rokem

    Hydrogen Phone is Obsolete..
    We can now shoot in RAW CinemaDNG in 10 Bit.
    Only android

  • @XantheFIN
    @XantheFIN Před rokem

    So they took a phone frame, slapped Nintendo 3DS screen and camera module from Qualcomm..? Sounds normal.

  • @tehsin13
    @tehsin13 Před rokem

    They should've gone to Sony route with focused heavily on video.

  • @LeeHarris
    @LeeHarris Před rokem

    "mind numbingly" was an unfortunate turn of phrase...

  • @lanceforlife5166
    @lanceforlife5166 Před rokem +2

    It did feature in Fast 9

  • @14bqdonk
    @14bqdonk Před rokem

    Nintendo who made 3DS console with glasses-free 3D in 2011 👀.
    Old tech but still, 7 years apart 😏

  • @Casp3r.aka.Droid.
    @Casp3r.aka.Droid. Před rokem

    Plus when the HTC Evo 2 came out everyone got the phone used the 3d effect for one day showed all their friends and never used it again that's what happened to me I was like can your phone do this everyone was like no and that's all I ever did with it. It was just another bragging point then the Kyocera Echo came out around the same time so you know I had get that too and be like can your phone do this does it have two screens that turn into one big screen actually I use the hell out of that phone it was really useful for multitasking I actually use that feature all the time watch CZcams videos have the video on the top screen and all the comments or a bunch of videos on the bottom it was great for social media you could have Facebook on one screen and Facebook Messenger on the other you can be in the app store on one screen why your getting directions from Google Maps on the other now that was a great phone it wasn't so powerful but it was useful I'm surprised they never came out with a second version because that phone did sell they should have came out with a second version with bigger screens less of a bezel and a hell of a lot more powerful I would have bought the Kyocera Echo 2

  • @ChrisbottrellphotographyCoUk

    We make it up as we go.......a bit like claiming they invented compressed raw....

  • @neilfilms
    @neilfilms Před rokem +1

    I wish they focus more on the camera that phone would like the xperia 1 siries

  • @ampillustrations
    @ampillustrations Před rokem

    Watching this video on a hydrogen rn!

  • @chengong388
    @chengong388 Před rokem +2

    holographic my ass, it's the same thing as on the Nintendo 3Ds

    • @FrameVoyager
      @FrameVoyager  Před rokem

      😅😅😅 in function yes, but they added "new" tech that didn't really improve it that much haha

  • @ChillerFPV
    @ChillerFPV Před rokem

    trust in Red is gone as to empthy promises on the phone as i have 2x titanium version here. made everybody buy one with promises they didn't keep and dumped the customers like a brick. Red product never again, they can go bankrupt for all i care.