Her 2nd LP was actually 'Eli and the Thirteenth Confession' (1968). 'New York Tendaberry' (1969) was her third. Both LP's are universally regarded by critics as masterpieces.
A lot of people honoring Laura on CZcams. A lot of fans commenting and expressing their love for her music and for her personally and here is Elton John giving us an understanding of he influence and that she was an influence. YT is a fantastic resource for folks to drop These little bits and pieces of insight so thanks for posting this. What a time we boomers lived through... Don't ya think? Growing up in the Bronx in the fifties and sixties with all the rock and roll, the dew-wap, the acapella, Laura has talked about that and that was a thing to do in those working class neighborhoods. She was writing songs like "And When I Die" at age 16, Carroll King was writing songs like "Up On The Roof" as a teen. Just incredible stuff to think about.
Michelle Phillips told me that the crowd @ Monterey liked Laura, it was just Laura's perceptiion that the set was received badly. MIchelle ended up missing the Otis Redding set because she had to drive Laura around town and calm her down with a cigar sized joint, True!
@@DavidHalChester plus....Otis was Michelle's favorite artist of the whole festival. She'd seen him at the Whiskey A Go Go and made sure he got invited to the festival
I met her in LONDON - she played - her and 2 backup sisters on vocals....I got to meet her and she was very sweet- talked about purple--lol-- Sweet soul child Laura...MIss you ....
People doing such great cover versions of Laura's songs like "Stone Soul Picnic" and "Stoney End" and "And when I die" helped her reputation a lot as a songwriter, because her versions got very little radio play. Most people never heard her versions on top 40 AM in her time. So thanks to her cover musicians for making her shine.
@@j.c7719 Hers were better? Ha, keeping mouthing feel-good fibs. It's good moral signaling for you being voted Miss Sensitivity. Laura's version of "Stoney End" was flat and lifeless compared to Streisand's, especially at the end. That's why Streisand had the hit and Laura didn't.
@@DexterHaven Miss Sensitivity? What the hell are you on about? Yes, her versions were better, miles better. She shined brighter on her own, Streisands version is oversung to death and sounds like a middle of the road show tune, Laura’s is the superior version, Streisand was already famous that’s why she had the hit.
@@j.c7719 No, you fool. Nyro flopped as a performer. 'Monetary Pop' was to be her big chance to shine; she ran off stage in tears, instead. Joplin became the hit, not her, silly. The labels gave Laura huge budgets for albums and she couldn't even sing one top 10 single herself, you fool. She became a depressed, fat lesbian eventually. You are all hype and delusion, like lying biatch.
just found this interview...will try to search for 'part 2' if there is one. Elton nailed it, but not only tempos, but the passion in her voice and her range. So incredible, incredible for all time. She also influenced Melissa Manchester, just to add one more to the pack and Bette Midler. Because my only exposure to her were her albums, I am glad technology allows us to learn more about Laura and her influence in music for the 20th century. One of the greatest female composers, singers ever.
Sad they didn't show the "Poverty Train" live clip from Monterrey.P.F ... Nyro just knocks it out of the park, I remember seeing that on the MPF DVD years ago ... my jaw just dropped ... but then came the 1-2 punch ... I made the mistake of looking up her age: she was 19. I was in shock for two days.
El and El agreed on Lauras ability to change the game...historians they are...they knew what to do with LN style creatively and could find sonic grooves we regular folk couldn't hear...love them gushing.
Elvis and the Attractions did a version of "The Bells" that I heard in some live concert recording. Now I understand why. It started with Nyro's version on "Gonna Take a Miracle."
It´s true! I think that, if Laura wants, she'd be great and famous, because she had the look, the songs and the voice to conqueer your space in history of pop music. But she preferred to be true to herself, instead of living the will of others.
I've made a comment here before and for the life of me I don't know why I didn't say how much I love Laura Nyro. So . . . I love Laura Nyro. I hope she isn't rolling over in her grave as Sir John continues to mispronouce her name.
Right, her last name is pronounced: NEAR-oh... NOT nye-roe. But of course he is forgiven, “England and America; two nations separated by a common language.”
And this is what got the attention of those with wisdom at the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame for Laura to be FINALLY inducted. Way, way overdue!!!!!!! Well done, Elton!!
Right! You can hear the applause right before Elvis starts blabbing on. She was not a big smash like Jimi, Janis etc, but she was signed by Clive Davis shortly after and Janis became very jealous of her. Dionne Warwicke and Johnny Rivers were there too.
Thanks for posting this. I must research this series and this episode. Laura still rules from the other side. Yes, a lot of people are were definitely influenced by her. Both Patti Smith and Diamanda Galas were too, I know for a fact. Peace.
i like laura nyro , r.i.p. ...... its amaseing to hear that elton john played with all these top motown artists , too bad the tape didn't go on any futher it would have been nice to hear what he had to say about billy stewert ?
There's a few more factual errors in this wonderful tribute. For the record: Laura's 5th album 'Gonna Take a Miracle'(1971) was largely an LP of Laura's favourite Detroit Motown songs as a teenager, not New York Brill building songs. Laura's cover of Carole King's 'Up on the Roof' is not on the album. Labelle (all three girls - Patti, Sarah Dash, and Nona Hendryx) were singing with Laura on 'Gonna Take a Miracle'. There's a big photo of the girls on the back cover of the vinyl record/CD. Produced by Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia.
Don't forget Elton was buying records in Britain and we often had different albums, covers etc than those issued in the USA. Also, re the second and third albums being published - if there was a new artist so far as the UK was concerned, we often had different publishing dates too, so he may be correct re the order her albums which were published in the UK. Always loved her music, still do.
David Geffen (The Richest Man in Hollywood) made his first $millon off her catalog. Her albums were sellling about as well as Joni Mitchells @ the time (Top 30)
I totally hear what elton is saying about laura nyro and his awesome music being influenced, by hers. This points out to my why both of them are so great, smart talented hard workers so willing to do do do! Great video
1- NY Tendaberry was her third album, not the second. 2- Elvis said that "Up on the Roof" was on the album "Gonna Take a Miracle". This is wrong, it was on the album "Xmas and the Beads of Sweat" (and it's an amazing cover of a great song!)
She influenced a lot of people. If you listen to a few songs of hers then listen to Elton, you really pick up on the similarities. I think it's cool that he admits how much if an influence she is. It's like when The Beatles admit they were influenced by Chuck Berry and Little Richard. So the British invasion was inspired by American Music.
@Anfibius its true. sadly, most of the starrs of the early rock and roll era were only paid for performances; not mechanical royalties from sales, not airplay, not residuals, not for liscensing. the lucky ones got a stipend/per diem that if they wer lucky wasn't charged against their performance fees. and for many its impossible to renegotiate those old deals. example; charlie thomas of the drifters was until recently doing 100 shows a year and for a time was basically homeless.
Ele é parte do programa que aponto acima, onde Elvis Costello entrevista vários musicos. Nesse episódio, ele entrevista Elton John, q tb é produtor do programa. A Multishow vive reprisando os episódios!
I agree. About a part 2, I recorded entire program (extracted of "Elvis Costello interviews..."), and only stretch about Laura is it. I don't know Melissa Manchester, but if she was influenced by Nyro, probably I'll like her. Thanks
@Anfibius compared to many others, laura was paid rather well for her songs. i think her lack of many personal hits was due more to just bad luck or a listening public that wasn't up to the challenge of her songs. plenty of great songwriters have had highly succesful careers without being famous. let's not confuse or conflate the two things.
I'll add a fact check: Wedding Bell Blues wasn't a hit until well over two years after Monterey Pop. Now, for the sheer genius of Laura: She wrote And When I Die when she was about 16 or 17 years old (at the most). Think about it: a high school sophomore puts pen or pencil to paper and starts writing, "I'm not scared of dying, and I don't really care...one child born to carry on, to carry on." People: this is otherworldly. Elvis is right about the less than warm reception she got at the Festival. In fact, she was just about booed off the stage by the time she sang Poverty Child. To those that booed her, sure do hope there's an afterlife, and you can apologize to Laura.
This episode of 'Spectacle Elvis Costello with... ' was the first one, but seems to have been cut up for youtube. For another part, search 'David Ackles Road to Cairo actual footage' which has more comments about Laura as well as the great David Ackles, who was also discussed on the first episode.
@Putaspellonyou Yes... we don't forget Sly Stone, that also today lives in the streets like a tramp. This example is for show the other side of situation. In the seventies (but today it stills happen), many artists was suffer because bad deals, or they was ignored by his record labels, and support wrong strategies of marketing. Laura was victim of bad choices, her marriage, and mistakes like that you and me quote in our answers.
Laura passed away in 1997. Eleven years later, Janis Ian came out with a memoir in which she falsely and unfairly portrayed Laura as a hardcore drug user.
Oh so that's where it started! I wondered why people thought she was an addict. Janis Ian is a very mean and unkind person! Just the opposite of Laura who was gentle and sweet. I think Janis was jealous of Laura and in competition w her. How pathetic! LOSER & liar!
Maybe because he's English and that is how the DJs pronounced her name when we first heard about her. A bit like American's pronouncing "Wooster" sauce as "Wor-cess-ter-shire " sauce.
I know it's pronounced Nero but I think, as Elton John evidently does, that that sounds horrible, so it's always going to be Nigh-ro to me - I've called her that for thirty years, I'm not gonna stop now! It was originally Nigro - what a hornet's nest THAT would have stirred up!
Alice Cooper stated Laura Nyro was the goat of song writing.
Her 2nd LP was actually 'Eli and the Thirteenth Confession' (1968). 'New York Tendaberry' (1969) was her third. Both LP's are universally regarded by critics as masterpieces.
He meant to say "Eli and the Thirteenth Confession," since that is her second album and Elton referenced the scented sleeve.
I found it !!
Stop being so petty
@@DAS1962 No so petty if you want to know what her first one was ....
The best knows she’s the best.
Of course I saw Laura's influence in Elton's music…and so many others. Both brilliant writers.
She is a legend
Timeless masterpieces
A lot of people honoring Laura on CZcams. A lot of fans commenting and expressing their love for her music and for her personally and here is Elton John giving us an understanding of he influence and that she was an influence. YT is a fantastic resource for folks to drop These little bits and pieces of insight so thanks for posting this.
What a time we boomers lived through... Don't ya think?
Growing up in the Bronx in the fifties and sixties with all the rock and roll, the dew-wap, the acapella, Laura has talked about that and that was a thing to do in those working class neighborhoods. She was writing songs like "And When I Die" at age 16, Carroll King was writing songs like "Up On The Roof" as a teen. Just incredible stuff to think about.
Michelle Phillips told me that the crowd @ Monterey liked Laura, it was just Laura's perceptiion that the set was received badly. MIchelle ended up missing the Otis Redding set because she had to drive Laura around town and calm her down with a cigar sized joint,
True!
I have read the exact same thing from many people who were up front. She didn't read the crowd correctly and the myth was born.
OMG, what a fantastic story!!!
That's a good friend, Michelle was.
@@DavidHalChester plus....Otis was Michelle's favorite artist of the whole festival. She'd seen him at the Whiskey A Go Go and made sure he got invited to the festival
yes it was a myth that she was disliked by the audience.
I met her in LONDON - she played - her and 2 backup sisters on vocals....I got to meet her and she was very sweet- talked about purple--lol-- Sweet soul child Laura...MIss you ....
People doing such great cover versions of Laura's songs like "Stone Soul Picnic" and "Stoney End" and "And when I die" helped her reputation a lot as a songwriter, because her versions got very little radio play. Most people never heard her versions on top 40 AM in her time. So thanks to her cover musicians for making her shine.
Her versions were way better
@@j.c7719 Hers were better? Ha, keeping mouthing feel-good fibs. It's good moral signaling for you being voted Miss Sensitivity. Laura's version of "Stoney End" was flat and lifeless compared to Streisand's, especially at the end. That's why Streisand had the hit and Laura didn't.
@@DexterHaven Miss Sensitivity? What the hell are you on about? Yes, her versions were better, miles better. She shined brighter on her own, Streisands version is oversung to death and sounds like a middle of the road show tune, Laura’s is the superior version, Streisand was already famous that’s why she had the hit.
@@j.c7719 No, you fool. Nyro flopped as a performer. 'Monetary Pop' was to be her big chance to shine; she ran off stage in tears, instead. Joplin became the hit, not her, silly. The labels gave Laura huge budgets for albums and she couldn't even sing one top 10 single herself, you fool. She became a depressed, fat lesbian eventually. You are all hype and delusion, like lying biatch.
I only play Laura’s versions …. 😎
just found this interview...will try to search for 'part 2' if there is one. Elton nailed it, but not only tempos, but the passion in her voice and her range. So incredible, incredible for all time. She also influenced Melissa Manchester, just to add one more to the pack and Bette Midler. Because my only exposure to her were her albums, I am glad technology allows us to learn more about Laura and her influence in music for the 20th century. One of the greatest female composers, singers ever.
She deserved a tiara that sweet princess...
I think she was wearing a barrette, but she was/is a sweet princess. sigh.
She deserved a crown
i love the way he defines her music!!!!! And appreciates her GENIUS!
LOVE YOU, Elton....but the scented inner sleeve was for Eli and the Thirteenth Confession. What great insights he has about Laura musically....
Sad they didn't show the "Poverty Train" live clip from Monterrey.P.F ... Nyro just knocks it out of the park, I remember seeing that on the MPF DVD years ago ... my jaw just dropped ... but then came the 1-2 punch ... I made the mistake of looking up her age: she was 19.
I was in shock for two days.
She was astonishing. There's been no one like her since.
El and El agreed on Lauras ability to change the game...historians they are...they knew what to do with LN style creatively and could find sonic grooves we regular folk couldn't hear...love them gushing.
Elvis and the Attractions did a version of "The Bells" that I heard in some live concert recording. Now I understand why. It started with Nyro's version on "Gonna Take a Miracle."
Eli has always been my favorite of ALL TIME.
I loved her as a teenager, I'm so glad that I can listen to her here. I 1st went to Eli's coming ! I pronounce her name Knee- ro.....
It´s true! I think that, if Laura wants, she'd be great and famous, because she had the look, the songs and the voice to conqueer your space in history of pop music. But she preferred to be true to herself, instead of living the will of others.
Rafael Senra True! she didnt even took bs from her manager David Geffen. She was just so free and didn't compromise to anyone but herself!
Elton is so right & he should know about talent!
thank you so much for sharing this..
we all idolize Laura.. RIP...
I've made a comment here before and for the life of me I don't know why I didn't say how much I love Laura Nyro. So . . . I love Laura Nyro. I hope she isn't rolling over in her grave as Sir John continues to mispronouce her name.
Right, her last name is pronounced: NEAR-oh... NOT nye-roe. But of course he is forgiven, “England and America; two nations separated by a common language.”
Gonna take a miracle taught me how to sing
Laura Nyro and Elthon John, what a pair of wonderful musicians!!
And this is what got the attention of those with wisdom at the Rock n Roll Hall Of Fame for Laura to be FINALLY inducted. Way, way overdue!!!!!!! Well done, Elton!!
The story of Patti Labelle and Martha and the Vandals is sobering.
Martha and the Vandellas
Right! You can hear the applause right before Elvis starts blabbing on.
She was not a big smash like Jimi, Janis etc, but she was signed by Clive Davis shortly after and Janis became very jealous of her. Dionne Warwicke and Johnny Rivers were there too.
Laura's Stoned cold picnic greatest Hits Album is another masterpiece!
Thanks for posting this. I must research this series and this episode. Laura still rules from the other side. Yes, a lot of people are were definitely influenced by her. Both Patti Smith and Diamanda Galas were too, I know for a fact. Peace.
Thanks, Elton!
The inaccuracies in fact I think we can all agree can be put down to his lifestyle back in the day
i like laura nyro , r.i.p. ...... its amaseing to hear that elton john played with all these top motown artists , too bad the tape didn't go on any futher it would have been nice to hear what he had to say about billy stewert ?
I was VERY interested in what he had to say about Billy Stewart... then it just stopped.
@ilovelinus i have never seen this ! thanks for sharing it on the Laura Nyro Group : ))
Amo demais essa mulher!
Not just how he plays piano, but also in his singing. You can hear her influence on him
There's a few more factual errors in this wonderful tribute. For the record: Laura's 5th album 'Gonna Take a Miracle'(1971) was largely an LP of Laura's favourite Detroit Motown songs as a teenager, not New York Brill building songs. Laura's cover of Carole King's 'Up on the Roof' is not on the album. Labelle (all three girls - Patti, Sarah Dash, and Nona Hendryx) were singing with Laura on 'Gonna Take a Miracle'. There's a big photo of the girls on the back cover of the vinyl record/CD. Produced by Gamble and Huff in Philadelphia.
Don't forget Elton was buying records in Britain and we often had different albums, covers etc than those issued in the USA. Also, re the second and third albums being published - if there was a new artist so far as the UK was concerned, we often had different publishing dates too, so he may be correct re the order her albums which were published in the UK. Always loved her music, still do.
In my top 6 of favorite albums.
That's a really great album, I love the collaboration between Laura Nyro and LaBelle's musical styles. They both compliment each other well. :)
David Geffen (The Richest Man in Hollywood) made his first $millon off her catalog.
Her albums were sellling about as well as Joni Mitchells @ the time (Top 30)
taddyd1 He did really apreciate her though! I could go as far as saying that he was kind of in love with her!
Great notice¡¡ I didn`t Know that " burn down the missión" was inspired by Laura Nyro.
Thanks Elton,homage to Laura .......thank you.
I totally hear what elton is saying about laura nyro and his awesome music being influenced, by hers. This points out to my why both of them are so great, smart talented hard workers so willing to do do do! Great video
she was peerless
Grazie Rafael Senra...wonderful clip about Laura...informative, excellent, educating. Watched it more than once already. Wished there was more of it.
Muito bom. Obrigado por postar
1- NY Tendaberry was her third album, not the second.
2- Elvis said that "Up on the Roof" was on the album "Gonna Take a Miracle". This is wrong, it was on the album "Xmas and the Beads of Sweat" (and it's an amazing cover of a great song!)
She was the best. Name pronounced Nero, Reg. You're up there with her, mind you!
She influenced a lot of people. If you listen to a few songs of hers then listen to Elton, you really pick up on the similarities. I think it's cool that he admits how much if an influence she is. It's like when The Beatles admit they were influenced by Chuck Berry and Little Richard. So the British invasion was inspired by American Music.
@Anfibius its true. sadly, most of the starrs of the early rock and roll era were only paid for performances; not mechanical royalties from sales, not airplay, not residuals, not for liscensing. the lucky ones got a stipend/per diem that if they wer lucky wasn't charged against their performance fees. and for many its impossible to renegotiate those old deals. example; charlie thomas of the drifters was until recently doing 100 shows a year and for a time was basically homeless.
Well done!
Ele é parte do programa que aponto acima, onde Elvis Costello entrevista vários musicos. Nesse episódio, ele entrevista Elton John, q tb é produtor do programa. A Multishow vive reprisando os episódios!
I agree. About a part 2, I recorded entire program (extracted of "Elvis Costello interviews..."), and only stretch about Laura is it.
I don't know Melissa Manchester, but if she was influenced by Nyro, probably I'll like her. Thanks
@v4j8c2 Valeu por comentar! Deixo aqui a dica do site/blog que fiz homenageando Laura (todo em portugues), o link tá na descrição do vídeo. Abraço
@Anfibius compared to many others, laura was paid rather well for her songs. i think her lack of many personal hits was due more to just bad luck or a listening public that wasn't up to the challenge of her songs. plenty of great songwriters have had highly succesful careers without being famous. let's not confuse or conflate the two things.
Spitting some history here...
@SkeeterNYC This video just show a fact that many people ignore. Thanks for comment
Genial
I am surprised that Elton doesnt know how to pronounce her name. It's "near-o" (knee-ro) not "nigh-ro"(nye-ro)
damn where's part two!!!! thanks
Elton mentioned another piano singer/songwriter...does anyone remember the name of the artist? Thanks in advance!
David Ackles.
I'll add a fact check: Wedding Bell Blues wasn't a hit until well over two years after Monterey Pop. Now, for the sheer genius of Laura: She wrote And When I Die when she was about 16 or 17 years old (at the most). Think about it: a high school sophomore puts pen or pencil to paper and starts writing, "I'm not scared of dying, and I don't really care...one child born to carry on, to carry on." People: this is otherworldly. Elvis is right about the less than warm reception she got at the Festival. In fact, she was just about booed off the stage by the time she sang Poverty Child. To those that booed her, sure do hope there's an afterlife, and you can apologize to Laura.
She was an old soul. Your comment reminds me of Kate Bush who wrote "The Man With The Child In His Eyes" when she was 13.
Apparently the host hasn't done due dilligence re: the #️⃣debunking of her erroneously reported "failed" Monterey Jazz performance.
I wonder what perfume scent it was on the sleeve of her second album? Anyone know?
I remember that scent. It was so prevalent.
+Brenda Cleveland what was it?
Just read a piece on her from a couple of years ago that said it was lilac.
Lilacs!
@@mysterysurf4554 👍😀
not true about the Monterey Pop. It was a myth that was even perpertrated by Nyro herself
Not sure why Elton played his own song to illustrate Laura. Love his music but he should have tried one of her songs
who's that talking to Brian Pern?
I would love to see the interview in its entirety - does anyone have another link?
This episode of 'Spectacle Elvis Costello with... ' was the first one, but seems to have been cut up for youtube. For another part, search 'David Ackles Road to Cairo actual footage' which has more comments about Laura as well as the great David Ackles, who was also discussed on the first episode.
@@lupcokotevski2907 Thank you!!
1:52 that's Ellie from Degrassi!
That's bullcrap - they loved her at Monterey.
Why isn't Elton wearing a tiara?
Carole King must have been influenced by Laura also
It cut on a story about Billy Stewart!
It cut on a story about Billy Stewart!
This can't be happening.
So was all Laura's paranoia? Well, true or not, the version of bad receive became a oficial version. But I like to know that Laura was good!
@Putaspellonyou Yes... we don't forget Sly Stone, that also today lives in the streets like a tramp. This example is for show the other side of situation. In the seventies (but today it stills happen), many artists was suffer because bad deals, or they was ignored by his record labels, and support wrong strategies of marketing. Laura was victim of bad choices, her marriage, and mistakes like that you and me quote in our answers.
Laura passed away in 1997. Eleven years later, Janis Ian came out with a memoir in which she falsely and unfairly portrayed Laura as a hardcore drug user.
Oh so that's where it started! I wondered why people thought she was an addict. Janis Ian is a very mean and unkind person! Just the opposite of Laura who was gentle and sweet. I think Janis was jealous of Laura and in competition w her. How pathetic! LOSER & liar!
Why does he INSIST on mispronouncing her last name?
Irritating indeed
Maybe because he's English and that is how the DJs pronounced her name when we first heard about her. A bit like American's pronouncing "Wooster" sauce as "Wor-cess-ter-shire " sauce.
EFBensonFan A rose by my other name. We all know who he is talking about.
Mas quem é Laura?
Go look her up! She is amazing! There is plenty about her on CZcams.
I know it's pronounced Nero but I think, as Elton John evidently does, that that sounds horrible, so it's always going to be Nigh-ro to me - I've called her that for thirty years, I'm not gonna stop now! It was originally Nigro - what a hornet's nest THAT would have stirred up!
elvis,you talk too much
Always one of the best.