Are influencers ruining fpv?
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Fpv drones, a once wholesome community of diy hobbyists has now become a multi billion dollar industry that that is changing the landscape and the way we interact with our world, including blowing it up. with this rise in popularity will also come those looking to grift off of our once intimate community. will fpv be able to survive the rise of the fpv influencers ?
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Greed can cloud peoples judgement 😭😭 it's time to stop botg you're a sellout
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haha yeah i really should stop putting out free content every week @@lolmetyuri (;
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Solid ass fucking video ❤. The Instagram “take my course and I’ll show you how to make $5k a day with a d-rone!” Hurt my soul
thank you homie.
Props to Steele to rip at home as much as on location. Thanks, Mr. Steele!
Where do i sign up to Steele drone school? 😜😜
Mr. Ethnix is the reason I stopped watching fpv a long time ago. Oh and that arrogant dress wearing " and today you're going to learn something" doosh....
Tacklbox face Salvia bro isn't winning me back.
Go vape or something
Truth be told, i stopped following like 95% of FPV youtubers for that exact same reason. Stay legit and awesome bot!❤
Yeah like Albert Kim, nothing but scooters n electric bikes
+1
I feel like Albert is the wrong target. He clearly states that he reviews products that he likes that span across different hobbies. Additionally, he's actually one of the reviewers who is critical of the products he reviews. Doesn't sugar coat anything, and has even caught flack from manufacturers and viewers for his criticism for shit products like the BetaFPV Pavo Pico when it first came out @@brianlangford7278
Same! It's sad imo.
Same, between the grifters and stupid remote ID I've all but given up on the hobby.
I came here by way of Bardwell and the drama all over the internet. I can't believe this video is the video that started a firestorm. Botgrinder, this style of content is great and you should do more of it!
M heart, that pic of me and trappy at the start of the video while bot talks about positive ambassadors for the hobby made my day. amazing video and great take. Got some real channel 5 news vibes. loved it.
The problem I think for content creators is not actually the affiliates but the thumbnails. if youtube doesnt promote it than you are out of luck. ive made plenty of best videos and plenty of warning videos but 9 times out of ten people only click on best videos and thats all they see in the recommended etc. becomes a cycle in the short term. Long term I think people learn to trust or distrust who they watch. For me personally ive had ups and downs within the community and people remember the "bests" but dont remember the warnings. eg no one remembers my first warning video when DJi first came out speaking of the dangers of them, or rocking aomway goggles as my main for years, but they do remember a best drone for $99 etc. cheers for keeping it real borother.
I remember pretty much everything you have made haha, glad to have you in this community with us still my bro. from what I have seen If your in the game long enough you will have ups and downs with the community no matter what, it just depends on how you handle it moving forward.
Stu, it was your flight training vids and budget build that got me into the hobby. Love your positivity and enthusiasm you absolute legend!
Stu also introduced me to the hobby, with a pair of eachine ev2000 and a mob 6. Flew that for several years before losing it in a lake, and my wife "accidentally threw away my transmitter, goggles and spare drone parts". I just got back into the hobby through alot of stu's recommendations. Just wanted to share my story and say thanks. I appreciate the content
Cuz you have to fight fucking snakes every time you lose a quad in Australia.
@@voxtelnismo and the number of times I've lost props to fucking drop bears pouncing on them :(
Influencers are ruining everything in general.
Only if you're listening
@@grownnotflown2 Only because everyone else is listening, you mean
I'd say advertisement is ruining everything. And influencers are just the last phenomenon turning cancerous.
We used to like these guys, because they sounded more real and unbiased than real ads and now they are also ruined
Influences are just advertising. It's like saying commercials ruin everything. Take it with a grain of salt. Do your own research and life will be good.
@@agtjackbauer at least with commercials it was clear what was the commercial and what was the content you are actually interested in, now they are very much intertwined with a lot of videos just being commercials themselves.
I agree with Bot, Camps says on every video “This is the drone of the year”…. When you say it on damn near every video how can anyone take him serious.
Didn't he labeled his videos in the past always as 'honest' reviews? When I started I always thought that was funny because are there 'dishonest' reviews too .....? haha
1. This content is what I would watch more.
2. The Triggering that happened is absolutely DELICIOSO
I'm disappointed for not being directly called out for being a shill, I need to work harder clearly. If you would like to help me achieve that here is an affiliate link
Haha well that's because we all trust you and know you're on our side.
@@BOTGRINDER Something that's VERY interesting is the kickback the likes of DJI offer for "good engagement" on content, that drives these folks to only make positive content and they can get kickbacks of many thousands of $
Do better Ian dammit 😂
Speaking as someone who reviews a bunch of stuff - Although I do tend to give my honest opinions, which is why a whole heap of companies no longer talk to me :) I have seen meteoric rises of channels where every new quad is the-best-thing-ever, and I always thought that there's no way this will last. People will smell the bullshit after 10 videos or so. But no, they keep growing with the channels getting very big and popular. For some reason, people do like to organise themselves into little gangs where they'll eat up anything that certain people say. There's currently so little to be made in affiliate sales for a channel of my size, that it's not worth the effort anymore. Personally, I'm scaling way back on reviews this year - I'll attempt to make money elsewhere and stick to looking at more interesting projects/builds and doing more of my own thing
I dig your content man. Think its great.
Yeah, i think most people can distinguish between advertisements and opinions (after watching a few videos), but it can be a PITA when you’re starting out. That’s for sure.
I like your channel.
You're awesome Currykitten. I just found out you developed a simulator!
I bought your simulator on steam. Sorry I bet they don't pay very well. It is fun to fly I love it. Keep up the good content.
Great video Bot
That's why you need to stick around here zoe. The real ones need real ones.
We love you Zoe! ❤❤❤
I still have 3d props I haven’t used. You inspired me to try it though- I just keep breaking shit and running out of money.
Dronecamps for sure the worst offender of this, damaging the entire industry. Thanks for shedding some light on these shady practices and for always keeping it real, and giving honest reviews that can always be relied on.
you must never have seen Stuavfutures.
every week the new bangood hotness is his Drone of the year.
IIRC in 2018 there were 4 drones of the year by the time mid-feb rolled around.
he was the !st one i thught of lol
By FAR! Total grifting pimp
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he's the first everyone thought of. 😂@heExcile009
Damn, why didn't someone tell me about affiliate links... I've been doing it all wrong for years over at RCModelReviews! 😲
Just more shots of Ron's legs to drive the algorithm traffic.
ill share mine with you buddy
DroneCamps is one of the worst and longest running “DRONE OF THE YEAR” channels. It has always driven me crazy
yea he was cool but wasn't honest about reviews or he was just a noob idk
I have to agree
When I started 5 years ago drone campus was one of the first reviewers I found after the Steele and rr videos that got me started and Bardwell got me flying. But every video hell every thumbnail was "Drone of the Year"
Yup, trash
@@dimanfpv3247FR? That's a lot of drones!!
DJI FPV drone was 2021. DJI FPV system was 2019.
Ahh ok that makes sense it felt like alot longer ago, thank you.
See, Bot, looks like “you’re going to learn something”
Thanks for all you do Bardwell!
DJI "unbreakable" quadcopter frame that got them the 1st lot of money was 2008? Who been in the game long enough to remember the video of matey stamping on the frame, jumping on the frame then throwing the frame out of the 3rd floor window? and EVERYONE going nuts when DJI said they were giving free frames to people who posted lots of messages on rcgroups? tripping over themselves they were lol all trying to get a free DJI frame. Oh lord the lotusrc t580! Was l really the only person to say it was sh!t from day one??
The hobby needs people keeping it honest and I find it enjoyable to call out shills and BS companies
Mad respect to Botgrinder here, some people are really clueless when it comes to their beloved content creators...
You stirred the pot good with this one bro! And you are absolutely correct! KEEP IT UP!
Drone Camps and Captain Drone are definitely the top 2 channels at fault for this.
Also, the fact Justin Davies got an AI to write a terrible email about defamation is hilarious!
Was too funny when DC got angry at CD for releasing a drone ad "review" before the time it's meant to be realeased (according to their contract by the manufacturer) . It just proves that both of those salesmen are in it for the affiliate links and not the hobby.
Absolutely. It's the first two i thought of. At least captain drones seems like a "good" greedy person 😂 dronecamps is just straight up a salesman
Captain drone claims no affiliate links. Which I never knew
Camps has also been trying to push any service possible on new pilots such as a repair service and or setup for only $160 for a single quad. Lmafo.
Just a Dufus from Dronewanks is just a con (excuse for a)man who clearly bought his subscribers on the dark web. Dislike all his sellout vids.
Drone Camps RC is ruining FPV.
Yea buddy, solid video. 100% truth. I only finish like one video a month because I often spend 40hrs making each… and I never bother with affiliate links.
I try to keep it real, fun, & interesting; It’s a hobby, not a business.
I do however fly snowy mountain tops… cheers man!
and you will hopefully continue doing so - they are awesome to watch!
I think that monetization is the worst thing to happen to CZcams. People used to make videos just because they had a video that they wanted to make and had no expectation of getting views, but now a lot of channels are pumping out videos just because "it's their full time job". They will steer clear of talking about anything that could get them demonetized, but still expect people to trust them. Look at how many "reviews" are just people unboxing the drone and then doing 1 flight and talking about their initial impressions.
It's also annoying how a lot of channels start their videos by demanding that people subscribe to them. Do they really think that I don't know how CZcams's subscription system works?
Nah this is definitely a bit old man yells at cloud, or at the very least misguided reasoning. There is SO much positive stuff and absolutely award winning content being produced on YT that would NEVER exist without creators getting paid. If they couldn't get paid through YT itself it, people would just be shilling through ad reads, patreon, etc. YT paying ad revenue enables creators to ignore all that and still make a living.
@@chronicnugget5595 The sponsors and Patreon are included in my complaints. I can see both sides of the coin, but its really getting annoying how it seems like every single youtuber and their grandma are doing ad reads and begging people to join their Patreon. Why do so many people need to make a living from CZcams videos, especially when they quit their job first and then try to make the CZcams career viable? What happened to just making videos for fun and to share your interests? I don't have a problem with people getting paid. I'm just really getting tired of the sponsors and Pateron reads in what seems like every single video I watch. Does money really need to be a part of every video?
I feel that money also ruined livestreaming too with the donation messages. The streamers constantly stop what they are doing to respond to the donators and it derails the stream. I stopped watching gaming livestreams since the streamer usually spends the majority of the time responding to comments and doesn't do much gaming.
I think you are way off with this. If creators didn’t get paid and couldn’t do it as a job then youtube would have a lot less content and the content would be lower quality. Everyone else in the entertainment industry gets paid, musicians, actors, presenters, cameramen, editors, etc, so why shouldn’t CZcams content creators?
You also have a misguided view in what demonetised means. You don’t get demonetised for saying a product is rubbish or giving you honest opinion, you get demonetised for breaching copyright or CZcams’s terms of service, so for showing nudity, dangerous acts, breaking the law, etc, and even then CZcams seems pretty relaxed about the breaking the law part or practically every FPV video would get taken down for flying without a spotter or beyond line of sight or using too high a transmit power.
People unboxing a drone and test flying it once and people never saying anything negative about drones has nothing to do with being demonetised by CZcams, it is either them just getting a video out as soon as possible or them wanting to keep up their relationship with a company.
You just got a subscribe The cease and desist that you received. No matter if they are talking shit or talking you up, they are still talking about you.
*Cough*Camps*cough*
Truth!!!
Desist and Cease RC?
@@platty9237 he's more or less said that in his reply and a mail sent to BOT. One of the guys sent it me this morning. It's like he's untouchable and one thing for sure.....DC hates being called out. Goes into little B@tch mode everytime. Seen it on FB and he changes whenever anyone say's he's wrong.
Rotor riot ended for me when the old crew fall apart.
Your content is blowing up for all the right reasons. Hats off lets go!
Preach. I stumbled across your page through the algorithm and I’m glad I did. Your take is refreshing compared to the other garbage that’s out there from the paid for influencers.
😂oh man... meme showed up * died and fell out of chair *
Without getting into it fpv saved my life. I was a sad depressed man with no great outlook on the future. Watching creators like you that are truly into the hobby and not just pushing products is very refreshing. Listen there's going to be assholes no matter where you go in life but just leave our fpv hobby alone. I'm still in the process of pulling myself out of this shit but I can honestly say it helps me knowing that I could come home and fly whenever I want. And thank you bot for your sincerity. Later bro
Very accurate retelling of FPV history. Bot a real one. ❤
This is definitely the best, well thought out, and cohesive videos bot has made so far. Keep it up man
What an underrated video. Bot, I've seen your work for a few years now but I didn't appreciate it as much as I do now, with 4 years of FPV under my belt.
You need to do more of this stuff. You're really good at it!
omg, i am in the hobby since 2017 and i feel you. Thank you for making this video, WONDERFULL!
I've been thinking the exact same thing for a while, but you've described it better than I could ever do. I'm really loving the commentary stuff lately, you're an awesome asset to the FPV hobby. Keep keepin' it real, we all love you. Oh, and you never did tell us which diapers to buy.
Drone Camps is BEST sell out of FPV year after year
The term influencer is literally the problem. These self proclaimed "influencers" spit trash for advertisers. The mainstream sheep gobble it up.
Its simple for me, have more respect for your followers to tell them when products suck. Integrity is more important than free products in my opinion. Awesome video Bot. You have alot of wisdom on this homie! 🤘
It may be that way for you but plenty of people are willing to say and do whatever a company wants just to get paid.
@conorstewart2214 it's there mindset which needs changing. Your followers will take care of you if your honest and be transparent with them. Sponsors come and go.
@@edrone_ I totally agree but some of these channels have proven they can continue the way they are for years.
The whole camera industry seems to be the same way. Every time I need to research a camera or drone frame my YT feed ends up full of influencers making that goofy poggers face with a picture of some product superimposed on top.... caption "THIS PRODUCT CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!". Yuck
Except Camera Conspiracies. That dude is cool AF.
@@BonesFPV Nah. If you've been watching him lately, he be shillin with the best of em. The only reason he wasn't shillin before was no one gave him stuff to shill.
@@MrPhilbautistamaybe. I always found him pretty authentic - But maybe I am easily fooled... At the very least he is quite entertaining. Cheers.
At least if cameras every single one will give you very good photos and there is a huge market of used gear not that far behind in quality
One of the best "Keeping it real" videos I've seen in quite a while. RESPECT!!!!!
My friend Logan sent me a screenshot of 8:12 in this vid and lowkey gave me a heart attack 💀 glad you enjoyed my videos man. 🙏🏼
I entered FPV right as digital came out and honestly, I still feel green. Had a lot of self-doubt making videos about FPV because of how quickly things move and how knowledgeable the people before me are. So it means a lot you said what you did Bot.
Although not everything I make is FPV-related, I wouldn’t be ANYWHERE NEAR where I am without the community, and the friends I got to make beautiful memories learning to fly with.
I want to respect and love the community that gave me so much, and I’m always open to feedback.
Brutal honesty is the way to grow
Love how you explained the different subjects 👌 I'm glad you're still around.
I left the hobby back in 2017 because of alllll these points man, getting back into it now purely because you're still uploading and speaking facts hahaha. Spark one up from down under brother❤
I really loved this style of video man. You kick ass at this video essay style!
I started back in 2014 when we only had Cleanflight. It's definitely been a journey 😂 Miss seeing Charpu and all the OG's together!
shit i used to run dronin lol
Bloody newbies! When I started we had tricopters with helicopter rate-gyros, there was no such thing as a flight controller. Then the multiwi controller came along, followed by the Naze32 and Baseflight. Kids today! 😛
@@xjet 🤣🤣🤣
U had a UI? i Had the kk board :)
@@xjet those were the days mate. i watched all your content to haha
Loved the 107 skit...summed it up so well. I've been doing real estate drone videos for a little bit now and have been able to get by without one. The video can't be listed on the official MLS without a scan of the 107 license, though.
Great video as always Bot. You really are one of the best ambassadors for this hobby and I'm so glad you call out the bad actors.
"I stand by the 43842002392 drone links below!" LOL
what drone?
this is going to make a few grown men cry about nothing
look so good make a grown man cryyyyy
sweeet cherry pieeeeeee
im sorry
Yes, we are pointing a finger at you Drone Camps.
@@shadowofchaos8932 no comment
cherry pies are tasty though@@mark6302
I want to see a CZcams mma fight in sumo suits with toothpicks challenge laid down and if dc wants views he will accept. He can use the best toothpick of 2024 if he wants . I would sign up to be a patron. Forget the lawyer threats . Fight it out like real men in blowup sumo suits with remote in hand if your really the best you tuber of 2024 !
Word!
Is BotGrinder becoming the voice of reason in FPV?
@@shadowofchaos8932 I think this proves what I've been saying for some time now: _"The world is a strange place"_ 😛
@@xjet well i learned it form somewhere!
gotta love all the free advertising youre getting for this one!
Thanks for the shout! lol
I respect this video - you made a ton of good points. I agree as a creator it’s f***ed up if you recommend affiliate links to products that you don’t actually use. It might work for a short amount of time - but in the long run people always catch on and call out those people.
I also think as FPV grows there’s a pretty big divide growing between freestyle pilots and people like myself that started in the filmmaking world and just use FPV to get cool shots to add to our videos. The people who are just getting into it trying to film for the most part just want a simple setup that gets them in the air - sure it costs a bit more but I think it’s a net positive to have more people in the community.
Loved the 107 commercial
hey thanks for understanding i tried to find another avata shot but i was like this guy seems cool i dont think he would mind lol and i 100% agree with you i should have made more of a distinction between film making and freestyle but that could probably be a whole video by itself, i come from the super diy freestyle times of 2016 and sometimes i need to remind myself the hobby has expanded into other markets. i appreciate you watching and leaving a comment and thanks again for letting me use the clip with out a CnD letter. (;
haha no worries at all dude. No shot I'd ever send out an AI generated CnD 😂@@BOTGRINDER
Bot enjoying my TikTok’s is the highlight of my year fr!
Great video. I just got in to FPV over the last year and it's been so difficult separating the honest reviews from the bs. Finally found a few channels I can trust and it's been great. Keep speaking the truth 👊🏻
Bot becoming the conscience of FPV CZcams… woaaah dude. This is straight truth, appreciate it.
A review channel I respect and miss - xjet! Had no qualms to be straight about it.
As a new “creator” fumbling around with my hobbies to grow my following I appreciate dudes like this. Super down to earth and “as is” info. Plus, you shred man! Dig your vids especially the one from way back when you said to practice turning both directions haha. I struggle with turning right.🤦🏻♂️
I unsubbed to Drone Camps back in 2019 or so because I got suspicious of the fact that every fucking product he "reviewed" was "The Best drone of 20xx", or "this Radio is the best.."
It got old real quick, and for someone that gets a couple of thousand views per video, with nearly 200,000 subs speaks volumes as to the quality of his content.
It's people getting in to the hobby that are likely to get bitten, like I did, when I knew nothing about the hobby.
I'm with you there...I have a bunch of crap because I foolishly believed all of these people when I was just starting out.
Fun fact… I just got a community guidelines strike removed from my channel for trolling DJI from back when they first came out with their FPV system.
I’m sure the strike had nothing to do with DJI spending millions on a CZcams ad campaign at the time 😜
hahahahahaha
Thanks for your channel man. Keeping it real!
Thanks,keep doing your thang bro! Cheers from Italy
Keep it up Man. You have the best real FPV content. Met you in Vegas for DRL years ago and flew at some park with most of the RR crew. That was the beginning of the end.
that was a fun trip though.
I had not heard of botgrinder before the C&D drama. I'm a subscriber now.
This video is the reason that I subscribe to your channel! You are the rare couple of ppl still holds on to the free spirit of fpv.
Love your videos man. Greetings from Colombia!
Great video, I couldn’t agree more. It’s demoralizing to see where things have largely gone.
Awesome video, thanks! I don't follow many FPV channels anymore. Just those that are genuinely having fun.
A review video with an affiliate link is just a sales pitch.
I really enjoyed your take on this dude.. well said.. ive watched a few of your vids now and i like your down to earth and no B.S approach.. keep it up..
Damn bruh! This is very well written n very well presented! Did u script this? Great job man! Awesome video!
"I had a good time, but look at me." xD
Awesome work Bot. Opening my eyes more I’m with ya !
Botgrinder, you are a legend. Never change!
I started around the same time as you. I stopped flying in 2019 due to life. Well now I’m back and it’s crazy how correct you are. Glad to see you’re still making great content. I’m my mind, you’re the best fpv youtuber.
My man bot always speaking the truth. You’re the best man. Love to see you thrive.
This was really good content. Love it!
Great video! Glad you pointed all this out. Someone needed to say it!
Great video, many solid points. When's the next meetup at the recently acquired soon to be drone park/camping spot?
loose date is "spring" but ill be making posts and updating the discord room as soon as we start so folks can come out and help build it up!
Killed this vid,Bot. Well done.
true words my friend. hope all is well.
Love content like this, great stuff Bot!
You should make a video about drone influencers back then and where they’re at now. Like steelefpv, ummagawd, StickmanFpv , gapitfpv, drew, and so on!
wow great idea!
Yesssssss Loving the content dude. Single Handedly got me back into FPV. Just orded a Mobula8 and can't wait to Guerilla whoop lol @@BOTGRINDER
I'm glad YT made these changes. I really was getting tired of these 'salesman'
"But there are some channels out there that have affilate links to every drone they review...and every drone is the best drone" Justin starts sweating...and hyper ventilating 😂😂. Bot was on point with this content. 🔥🔥🔥
Some of the best fpv youtube content made in the recent past. Reminds me of the content that michael rollins would put out. Not always a fan of the videos you put out but this is top notch and i would love to see you cover more fpv topics like this in the future.
rollins had some of the best interviews hands down.
Nice one, Botgrinder! Very well said.
Youre the best man! Love your take.
Insightful, thanks BOT! Come to Utica, NY
Thanks again for a really well done video.
"Some 103's from last year" got me rolling 💀
Finally someone said it! The influencers are Corny as hell
Are influencers ruining fpv? ABSOLUTELY !!!!
AWESOME VIDEO in my opinion and perfectly TRUE !!!
Bro you gave me more clarity to this hobby in the passed few days than I learned from all the DJI pushers in the passed 5 years ….. THIS VIDEO AND CHANNEL GIVES THE MOST RELATABLE AND REALISTIC OPINION ABOUT THE HOBBY….. DEFINITELY SUPPORTING YOU MY BOI 🙏🏻 KEEP CREATING THESE VIDEOS🤙🏻
that 107 commerical was pure genius! i would sign up because of that clip alone
Damn, that was a great video, I just love listening to you talking about life the universe and everything, but with extra grains of salt, LOL. Funtime graphics. You are so good at this! thanks
what did you do BOT what did you do 😂 you're the only channel I still watch currently i'm in BOTCAMP ..enough said cheers dude
Very cool @BOTGRINDER I’m kinda new at the fpv world and I’m loving it and frustrated with it at times but that because I’m learning. I started out flying a Syma drone then and still dji . I’m playing around with the traditional fpv analog quads and having a good time.
It's all about having a good time!
This is a awesome, well thought out video. Nice one!
Great video Bot! Really love these commentary vids you've been putting out. And yea, I'm ok! There are a whole bunch of reasons I stopped making vids (for now)... a few related to some of the frustrations you've been talking about... but for the most part, I just had to prioritize some other things for now and don't have the amount of time I'd need to make videos that I'd be happy with. I hope to be back one day though. Also, I just want to say how much I appreciate you supporting me from the beginning man. Your comments on my vids always meant a lot.
So good to hear from you! And of course man you make some of the beat videos in the game but i definitely understand.
This one really resonated with me. I'm not a long-time veteran of FPV, but I am one of those cinematographers that discovered FPV a couple of years ago. I don't shill shit on my channel. This was an exceptional, video, man. Much love.
Your channel pop out in feedback... don't own a drone... instantly subscribed... love it
And salvia clip... hahahhaahahaha