Vietnam FAILS to meet its tourism targets..why? 🇻🇳
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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Vietnam has fallen behind its neighbours and missed its tourism targets for 2022. Why is this the case? Does Vietnam still want tourists and travellers or are they happen to just let things stay as they are.
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I just booked Thailand for Feb. £750 return from London. Not too bad compared to before covid. Hotels not looking too expensive either. 15 day visa is gonna be a big deal I reckon for Vietnam. Flight prices are high too. The West has been going in the wrong direction for a long time and the hens are coming home to roost now with all the money printing. Everyone in the western world got a 10% pay cut this year!!! Gas and electricity and food have all jumped up and you know what these corporations are like, the prices will never come down. That’s the real new normal. Quality of life for most in the uk is 〽️⬇️
Yes it's sad to see looking at it from afar and hearing stories from friends etc. 750 is a good deal, i'd take that! I'll be in Thailand as well next month for a few days, always enjoy it there.
Stayed 3 months there and came back to the states this month. Going back there in late February. Crossing my fingers they have 90 days visa by then. If not, Bangkok run again 😄. thanks for the updates. Always watch your video.
Thanks Jong-i'm guessing SOME kind of change soon although what that could be is anyones guess right now..
Very informative video... But you are quite fortunate that the tourist infiltration is at a minimal. In Thailand it's inundated with too many low quality tourists that have little respect for themselves or who is in their vicinity. Ironically I miss the convid days of empty streets and quiet beaches. The environment is suffering drastically unfortunately in Thailand.
Interesting-i'll be back in Thailand in about 2 weeks for a short trip. When i was there in July it was bliss, not too many tourists and great hotel deals. The hotel this time where i usually stay has more than doubled their rate. Expecting a huge surge of Chinese visitors as well when they drop their quarantine requirements on 8th Jan.
Believe it or not there are a lot of tourists in Vietnam. They belong to a list of 80 countries where they can do visa run every month. They were working illegally.
Your points are very well taken👍. Inflation will simply cut back on tourism, time will only tell 🙏
Next year will be a testing time. But with China due to open up imminently and the Indian market picking up i think Vietnam should do ok..
Vietnam doesn't want what happened to Thailand, especially places like Pattaya.
Thailand never recovered. It´s just government propaganda. The main reason the tourists have not returned to Asia as you rightly pointed out is due to recession in Western countries. This recession is self-inflicted in many ways and we will see even further deindustrialization in Western countries. The UK is one country playing the global power game without the resources to fund it, unlike America or even Germany. I am in the restaurant business and Brits are known for being cheap just about anywhere they go.
I'll be in Thailand in a few weeks so will be keen to see how it compares to earlier in the year. Hotel prices almost back to normal it seems.
Thailand depends too heavily on tourism for its GDP. Malaysia, doesn't. They have many other effective ways of growing their GDP. I would say Vietnam and Malaysia have much more in common than Thailand when it comes to GDP.
Thailand depends too heavily on tourism for its GDP. What evidence do you have to back that up? Tourism is around 18% of the Thai GDP!!! Do some research.....
Hmm, I am curious where you got the 3-6 million salary range for vietnamese workers from? From what I've read even lowly workers in factories get 7-8 million (> 300 USD) or even more if they work overtime. This is not counting any Tet bouses which can be worth a month wage or more. The wage of 130 USD per month is probably for some agricultural worker in a remote village. But even they probably make a bit more nowadays.
I heard down in the Mekong area this wage was common-like you said maybe more agricultural workers etc. There has been some bigger increases recently, but even at 7tr it's still pretty low and is a big reason why many global manufacturers' are piling into the country.
Most informative as normal, please advise if the 30 day visa situation changes for Australians over TET or in early 2023. We are retires, have loved traveling Vietnam for 3 months at a time, on 4 previous occasions during Melbourne's winter, would love to come back again in 2023.
Will do Pam, it's my guess that there MAY be some changes but watch this space....
Yesterday, I did my last visa run, if they don't bring a new visa update, I will move out, I like Da Nang but it makes me tired to make visa run every month.
Yes, tiring, waste of time and expensive. I'm guessing that we'll see some type of change soon but what that will be is anyones guess right now.
My guess is they might change the 14 day to a 30-day visa exemption and add more countries and change the e-visa to a 30-day exemption. My belief is it's only going to be 30 days max for tourists. Maybe if Lucky a 30-day in country extension.
My guess is they might change the 14 day to a 30-day visa exemption and add more countries and change the e-visa to a 30-day exemption. My belief is it's only going to be 30 days max for tourists. Perhaps a 30-day in country extension.
Visas plain and simple not easy to stay. I got offered a job but I'm retired 😆 can't beat the value vs cost of living in Vietnam.
Cost of living generally still not too bad here but going up pretty fast especially real estate/rental prices.
I want to live in Vietnam forever but hopefully at least two consecutive years. My little one has special needs but is SO responsive and interactive when hearing Vietnamese. It would help us so much to be able to live there at least for a while. Please 🙏
Not too much space. More and more foreigners are coming and altering negatively the life of vietnamese people.
I loved Vietnam. I went in 2000 before it got too touristy plus glad there wasn't McD, Starbucks at that time. Don't like the idea of cheap labour. Obviously rich getting richer.
It's changing so rapidly, and not for the best in some areas
@@expatnam I'm glad I went when I did even though people back home asked "why would you want to go there for?" I swore next time I went to an off beaten place I would tell anyone until I came back. As I said so glad I went 23 years ago next month
I hope the visa situation changes back! I’m coming no matter though, I hope I’m there by April
What situation? It is so perfect the 1 month visa. If the 3 months visa comes back a huge quantity of Africans, Muslims, gays, woke people, horrible feminists, hippies, drug addicts will come. Vietnam is okay without them. I don't understand an African woman told me she is going to pay 1500 USD to come to work here. This is not Canada or USA, and probably she will be a victim of scam for the second time. With the 3 months visa a lot of people were working illegally and affecting badly the environment of Vietnam.
Will be in Da Nang in April for two weeks holiday to visit friends.
Flights a bit expensive but worth it.
Great time to visit, nice and warm them and no rain.
Like the look of Thailand as well as Vietnam, but DaNang stands out big-time!!! The beach. There's never anybody there. Living in DaNang, to those of us that love the sea, accounts for a solid 50% of quality of life; not to mention the byproduct of seafood! Thailand has Bangkok, Chiang Mai & more, but as far as home base goes in Vietnam, give me DaNang & I would visit Saigon, Hanoi, etc. If there's a place on the planet I was meant to be it's DaNang!
DN is a good spot for sure and it's so easy to access the airport here if you need to travel anywhere.
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Great video great view walking Thailand 🇹🇭
Thanks Peter.
Very eerie background music! Sounds and Feels like it’s almost the end of the world! 😂
Haha, did feel somewhat like that at the time...
The current visa situation has no bearing on 'tourism', but certainly has on those who wish to stay long-term (so not tourists). The average stay of a western tourist is probably 10-14 days, and for the wealthy Asian or Chinese/Korean group it's maybe 5D4N. So a 15-day waiver or 30-day evisa is absolutely fine for the majority. Vietnam doesn't want the long-stay backpacker like Thailand, and neither is it really interested in long-term Western retirees - why should it be? The average monthly salary in Vietnam is about $300, but this is distorted by an increasingly wealthy middle-level/class and at the other end of the scale an increasingly impoverished agricultural sector where many struggle on less than $100 PM. The reasons for international companies moving en-masse to Vietnam are complex, but there are three main reasons - an educated and willing young workforce, especially those coming out of the increasingly professional university route, a relatively low-cost workforce (for now), and probably the most important reason is to reduce dependency on China - especially for US companies such as Apple.
Will be in Da Nag in seven days hope a few things are going to be open .
Everything is open-just the weather very hit and miss. Bring wet weather gear if you want to spend a lot of time outside
Energy and grocery shopping is extremely expensive in Europe. It is a reason to come to Vietnam for the winter period, not a reason to stay away.
Yes, you could probably rent an apartment here for the price of just your energy bills in the west at the moment!
The info is incorrect: visa rules were changed mid-2019 and supposed to come into force mid-2020. Because of Covid the implementation of the new rules was pushed back.
A lot of clothes I buy in the US is made in Vietnam.
I think Gap and Adidas are made here amongst many others. Strangely clothes made here are more expensive here than if i were to buy then back in the UK.
@@expatnam I just looked at Old Navy tag and it says Vietnam.
Good info. I am expat in Vietnam. 2 more reasons that are not mentioned #1. Vietnam is not cheap anymore, flights/motels/hotels/food is too expenisive for many low budget tourists. #2 Too many scams, over charging, and bad attitude towards foreigners in general. They just want your $$$$.
Very true Ray. I did a video on scams here a while ago-experienced a few myself recently when traveling around with family. I think it's getting pricey here as well-Da Nang seems way overpriced for a small central town compared to what you actually get, especially the accommodation.
@@expatnam You're thinking like a westerner!! Da Nang is THE city many middle-class Vietnamese aspire to live in. For many reasons including a fairly enlightened city 'council'. It's fast becoming the VN centre for software design (check out FPT, which has its own IT university!). Or PNV - a French NGO based in Da Nang, which teach rural children how to programme for the increasing number of software companies in and around Da Nang. Vietnam simply does not care about the western minority who only seem to care about cost.
Thanks for sharing 👍 keep it up 😊
Thank you too
Duh, visa time to short and tourists dont like poor service
Unfortunately very true. Hard to compete with Thailand on both counts...
Never had the 'poor service' problem. 30 days is still longer than most of us have vacation leave.
The service in Vietnam is not poor , only the tourists ( especially the westerners ) are cheap and very demanding . They should stay in their countries and pay the high cost of living there instead of travelling here
@@expatnam You should buy just a one way ticket to thailand and stay there .
you can see some vietnamese mentality think about a foreigner in your topic. In Thailand Foreigner = Guess but some countries Foreigner = ...? (Maybe ATM)
5:56 Yeah. You're true. Some plans proposed by local governments are weird. It just like you want to build a bus system but your budget is limited so you decide to build bus stations first. Because of no bus, no route, the bus stations stand there for a long time without any operation. Then, a new local government decided to destroy the stations for new plans.
Yes sounds about right. Take a look at the metro in Vietnam, well over 10 years now, huge costs and still not running.
Late 2022? lol can't get much later... 60hrs left of it!! Global Cost of Living rises as a fallout of the Pandemic is a big factor.. flight prices being almost triple what they were to start with.. then of course the whole lack of long term visa thing... its an expensive and long way to go just for 2 weeks!
Agreed, $1k plus for a flight for a two week break is a lot for most people. Hopefully some better news over the next few weeks..
@@expatnam fingers crossed!
Vietnamese government said : we are on top of the word.
Great vlog! Thank you. I've heard recently that Thailand are requiring vx status again now to enter, I wonder if Vietnam will follow? Any talk of this? I know it's impossible to predict what's around the corner but interested to know if there's any talk of this? Thanks!
Thailand did a quick u-turn and changed their minds and decided not to require the vax in the end. I just flew back into VN from Thailand tonight and it's all pretty relaxed now, even in regards to masks. VN definitely no vax to enter and i doubt this will change.
Objective view, I totally agree as a Vietnamese.
It will be interesting to see how things develop next year..
I pretty much agree with issues mentioned in the video (I dont want to name them in detail because I have to be secretive in public :p). Besides, I'm proud that Vietnam is safe and worth to visit in your opinion. I haven't lived in any other country (although I have visited other countries in ASEAN), so I have no idea how different about lifestyle in Vietnam from other countries. Hope I'll have a chance to work and live in another country and figure it out by myself.
By the way, I have no idea why they are building so many towers in Da Nang? The population and tourists are increasing that much? 🤨
Huge investment here before covid, but many of the projects have now stalled however and are waiting for new investment etc. Da Nang had visions to be the next Singapore, im not sure if that will work out though
@@expatnam Second Singapore? Well, look at Saigon and...OK. I'm trying to take a optimistic view.
Hi! Great video! What about multiple entry visas? I will spend 2 weeks in Vietnam, fly to Cambodia and came back to Vietnam for a few days. The information that I have read is not clear enought 😢
Thank you!
Still not available unfortunately. You'll have to apply for a new evisa or use the 15 day exemption if your country can get that.
@@expatnam Can I get two 15-day visas in a row?
If u r in the neighborhood. Hoang ke viem & D. Mai Thuc Lan. Non residence.
I'm thinking of flying to Ho Chi Minh city from Bangkok in a couple of weeks for a short visit ! I quess I don't need any visa and just my passport ?. Is it easy to get in? Thanks Rob
Depends on your passport Rob. 15 days visa exempt from a number of countries or 30 days evisa if you want a bit longer. Have a look at the link to the official website in the video description to see if your country is listed.
@@expatnam thanks
Does Vietnam not notice that there is a big giant deterrence north of it that keeps Tourists away?
They are about to drop their quarantine requirements from 8th Jan as well so there will be a huge influx of visitors here soon i guess
Thank you. Always enjoy your videos. I think Western tourists will have to accept the new reality that Indian and Chinese tourists are going to be everywhere. If you can't deal with it then you're right you should not come and visit. I believe if westerners left their Western attitude , morals and judgments behind we might be welcome a bit more in Southeast Asia.
This: I've done 18 trips to Vietnam since 2013. Some just a few days and others up to a month. My latest trip was in August 2022 and I did the Ha Giang Loop. I was once enamoured with Vietnam, but not any more. I doubt I'll be going back there any time soon. Vietnam tourism is set up for Vietnamese people, and not foreigners. Their tourism model is mass tourism. It's all about shovelling as many people through as possible for maximum profit. Go to any number of the major sightseeing attractions and what do you see; cable cars running masses of people up to a peak or, if you're in Nha Trang, out to the islands. And on top of the peaks you've got crappy amusement parks with circus rides. Vietnam has a population of over 100 million people. Everywhere you go there are swarms pushing, shoving, and crowding. And therein lies the issue for westerners. We're not interested in a mass tourism model. We want something which offers an indivual type approach and a bit more elbow space. There's actually very little you can do as a foreign tourist in Vietnam which is DYI. Everything you want to see and everywhere you want to go is on a guided tour, or has to be with a tour guide. The Ha Giang Loop is well past it's time of the idyllic adventure. Groups of 20 - 30 riders head out from QT Hostel on a daily basis on a tour, led by the hostel staff, which has bucket list stops and no scope for individualism or getting off the beaten track. These day the Ha Giang Loop is hardly the adventure of a life time. Another example: one of the premier attractions is a boat trip through the Tu San Slot. Except there's no indicating signage anywhere in English on where to go to book on for the tour. Just some local numbskull standing under an umbrella waving at you. I spent 30 minutes riding up and down the river trying to find the ticket booking spot. Once on the boat tour, a pack of local ladies stood up the front and spent the entire trip getting their "proof I've been there pics." By the time they were done the cruise was over. So many restaurants and coffee shops I've been into in Vietnam and there's not an English language menu in sight. The Vietnames need to get their shit together if they want western tourists to return. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just want the mainland Chinese to return. On a final note, if you want freedom, individualism, and DYI, go to LAOS. Once you've been there you won't go back to Vietnam and it's mass tourism model.
Interesting points, and i think basically echoing what i often imply in my videos. VN is very resistant to change, and in fact perhaps doesn't really want to change. When i say change i mean things like sorting out the terrible trash problem and service issues. You've got the complex political situation with a large portion of the nation slowly rising to the middle income ranks. Left behind are huge swathes of low income families with no support from the gov. and a 'money now attitude.' You can't blame them, but this is partly the cause of lower service and poorly maintained infrastructure, living in the moment and a lack of desire to change for the better. I could go on but it's complicated. Thanks for your comments.
Vietnam will open up the gates to Chinese tourists soon. This should have a big impact on Danang. Maybe some would say Vietnam should require covid tests before allowing free travel from China to Vn but this doesn't look to be the case. Should be interesting to see how this affects tourism numbers in Vn.
Yes definitely. The Chinese loved DN before so i would expect to see many again soon. I would say though that as a tourist spot there's just too much construction around here right now-Thailand would be a better option imho.
Am travelling to hanoi-HCH from 17th to 26th january during TET, with a 3 days halt in Da Nang so is there any problem I may face due to TET am traveling with 2 kids. If you can please answer my queries and additionally is there any COVID testing needed for travelers
Definitely no covid testing needed. You will face high hotel and fare prices though during tet and very busy and congested roads and airports.
@@expatnam thank you so much.
We had both of our evisas done and when recieved .they made mistakes. Redid mine when I spotted the mistake. Paid twice. Didn't catch the mistake on my wife's. And were turned back at the airport . Both mistakes were not made by us . Wrong dates were input on the consulte end of things. So we didn't come and didn't spend our travel money. Instead ended up in Europe.
That's so frustrating Mike, such bad luck. It's annoying that the airlines can't sort it out with a quick call to the right people.
Overall is Da Nang cheaper than Nha trang ? (Food, rent, ...)
Actually more expensive, Nha Trang the cheaper of the two i'd say.
@@expatnamthanks. I'm considering moving to nha trang see how is the life there, but it's complicated with the visa...
One more question, did the local vn restaurant use MSG like everywhere in Thailand and mostly in China ?
His video is not at where most tourist like to go to Vietnam during this season. This video was video in Decemember and no tourist like to go to the beach around December. Many tourist like to go to downtown and clubs in a overcrowd cities like Ho Chi Minh City or Hanoi. Do you think you would see people's at the beach in December or January? Use common sense.
Any words on the visa exemption countries?
There's a graphic in the video that lists the 24 countries. Here's the link to the gov. website that lists the 80 countries that can get the evisa: evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt
Curious if you know what it costs you to charge your battery.
Not very much at all. Can't say for sure but could probably work it out from the wattage of the battery.
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Transporting bike a smooth transition or a headache? Saigon to DaNang small potatoes to someone who is a globetrotter. I guess.
Very easy on the train, about 200k and takes 3 days. Just rock up at the station anytime and they will take it and send it anywhere in the country (that's on the train route)
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It is the visa nobody there
Definitely one of the reasons...
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I'd the answer. Perhaps, u scared all the tourists?😂
Visa fees are a gold mine of the communist government of Vietnam, so it is difficult to eliminate visa fees. It is unlimited greed, seeing small gains but not seeing greater benefits.
Yep, need to look at the bigger picture and long term solutions for many things here, not the 'dollar today' mentality that's common
Hello I tell you Whay. To much expensive ticket 1200 euro for person A family need 5000 euro You gave with half of money too much destination I. Europe Greece ,Italy Spain Portugal Turkey Malta also Egypt Marroco Tunis : I visit all and I tell you is Super an cheaper and no Visa only for Egypt
You contradict youself