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    Chael Sonnen talks UFC 247 main event, UFC Champion Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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  • @dus10Bish0p
    @dus10Bish0p Před 4 lety +578

    “Now. One judge had it 4-1 Jon Jones. That is fiction”
    😂😂😂😂

    • @lodunost
      @lodunost Před 4 lety +30

      You god damn right it is. I was proud of REYES and excited as a fan.

    • @jewl123
      @jewl123 Před 4 lety +4

      Wheezing😂😭

    • @ProtectoroftheRealm
      @ProtectoroftheRealm Před 4 lety +17

      Frank Bishop Jones winning 3-2 is fiction. The fake accounts here for Jones are Stunning.
      Reyes got robbed

    • @Ry-ss5dz
      @Ry-ss5dz Před 4 lety +5

      Since Jon has been the longtime champ you gotta give him the benefit of a doubt in a close fight like this was. That being said, Everyone knows Reyes landed more, so in their next fight Jon shouldn't get the nod if the fight goes the same way. Jon saved energy for too long and needs to match Reyes' output if he wants to win next time, and there WILL be a next time

    • @mazor13
      @mazor13 Před 4 lety

      @@ProtectoroftheRealm I felt the same way until I realized it was old rules. Part of round 2 and up jones always moved forward and controlled the ring. Rewatch it. Thats how he won. New rules Reyes won this. Blame texas. I was as outraged as you my friend. But take this into account and rewatch it. You will see how jones got this. This 4-1 jones shit is insanity lol. I still say the 3rd is questionable too. But him being the champ they always give them the edge. New rules rematch Reyes is the new champ and this fight needs to happen.

  • @donovans6472
    @donovans6472 Před 4 lety +379

    chael sonnen has beef with jon jones but still has the heart to give him his respect...for that i say chael sonnen is the real champ.

    • @zappthezapper33
      @zappthezapper33 Před 4 lety +8

      Donovan S then chael won the fight?

    • @TonecrafteLuthiery
      @TonecrafteLuthiery Před 4 lety +27

      Of course he's the real champ. He's undefeated. Made Tito tap like a bitch.

    • @benhowell5790
      @benhowell5790 Před 4 lety +3

      Haha as if Chael has ever lost his belt

    • @MuhammadWaqas-zv6qz
      @MuhammadWaqas-zv6qz Před 4 lety +4

      And lost the fight to JJ just out of respect. Real, undisputed, undefeated champion

    • @deku8910
      @deku8910 Před 4 lety +3

      @@TonecrafteLuthiery He never lost a round

  • @marlayoutourist
    @marlayoutourist Před 4 lety +440

    Ariel: it’s officially ruled a slip, I think it was a knockdown
    Chael: it’s officially ruled a knockdown, I think it was a slip

    • @modest1989
      @modest1989 Před 4 lety

      What do you think it was

    • @302QuestSwap
      @302QuestSwap Před 4 lety +44

      Modest89 It was a combination of both, but really he lost his footing.
      He threw a kick and got intercepted with a body punch and caught him off balance. He was on one leg kicking when he got hit and just fell quickly.

    • @modest1989
      @modest1989 Před 4 lety +6

      @@302QuestSwap that's how I seen it as well

    • @ar15tac
      @ar15tac Před 4 lety +11

      In my opinion if he has both feet down he stumbled backwards but doesn’t go down. So I think it was a slip... also thought Reyes won though. Not obviously though. Thought it was close.

    • @marlayoutourist
      @marlayoutourist Před 4 lety +1

      Modest89 I’m too emotional still to make that call

  • @aznazm
    @aznazm Před 4 lety +266

    Tony Ferguson's the type of guy who scores the judges after he fights

    • @Jack_80
      @Jack_80 Před 4 lety +6

      wonder how he would score the judge who gave 4 rounds to jones. i think a couple elbows to the head from tony would be a good judgement for that guy.

    • @JJehoich
      @JJehoich Před 4 lety +1

      Tony Ferguson is going to get his ass kicked stfu

    • @ahahahahaha95
      @ahahahahaha95 Před 4 lety +2

      @@JJehoich fuck you Joe Johnson

    • @B-RaDD
      @B-RaDD Před 4 lety +2

      @@JJehoich nah

    • @doloreskjar9673
      @doloreskjar9673 Před 4 lety

      @@JJehoich ok ok ok, im gonna stfu and Tonys gonna lose... Will that cheer you up? Dork.🙊

  • @superflyguy4488
    @superflyguy4488 Před 4 lety +187

    Until MMA gets a nailed down set of unified rules, that all judges understand and that are applied by all commissions, we will continue to get results that are divisive.

    • @Nyarlarthotep9
      @Nyarlarthotep9 Před 4 lety +6

      I don't see it happening. The new unified rules are pretty concise honestly. But the judges ability to follow it, not so much. The judge who have the 49-46 card justified it with "octagon control" which by the unified rules is only used when both strikes and takedowns are tied. Which they never were in that fight. And the UFC won't be able to survive as a brand if they attempt to remove individual states abilities to have their own athletic commissions. And I mean there's already mass ammounts of rumors of "fixed fights" and the UFC controlling results with the system now where refs, cutmen, and judges are independent of the UFC.

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Nyarlarthotep9 the UFC doesn't have to control the athletic commissions in every state to insist they all follow the same rules. You can't have an international fighting league where every different location gets to make up their own rules, that's obviously dumb. You can't expect athletes to compete properly when they're not competing under a consistent set of rules. That doesn't work, and it will never work.

    • @rcflem
      @rcflem Před 4 lety

      Daniel Lehr that was a fake account btw, didn’t actually belong to that judge.

    • @andresvelasco2767
      @andresvelasco2767 Před 4 lety

      I think you mean *divisive

    • @superflyguy4488
      @superflyguy4488 Před 4 lety

      @@andresvelasco2767 Phone autocorrect ha ha, yes i do.

  • @fletchermclaughlin8971
    @fletchermclaughlin8971 Před 4 lety +95

    Chael: “No one with a longer reach walks a guy down”
    Tony Ferguson: “Are we pretending now?”

    • @sunnys7645
      @sunnys7645 Před 4 lety +9

      and holloway, mcgregor, adesanya, nate diaz, darren till, zabit, the list goes on

    • @Yoko4797
      @Yoko4797 Před 4 lety +2

      He meant a guy with a long reach DOESN'T NEED to walk a guy down

    • @liammorgans7329
      @liammorgans7329 Před 4 lety +9

      Sunroop Sandhu- Holloway is taller but he doesn’t technically have a long reach.. in fact he has quite a short reach for his height

    • @nbaworld4426
      @nbaworld4426 Před 4 lety +3

      @@sunnys7645 And Stylebender doesn't walk people down, he snipes them.

    • @sunnys7645
      @sunnys7645 Před 4 lety

      @@liammorgans7329 for his height yes his reach isn't great, but for his weightclass its decent and he outreaches his opponent most of the time

  • @Emilito91
    @Emilito91 Před 4 lety +223

    “I cant let you get close”-the judges to dominic reyes

    • @ckalo7
      @ckalo7 Před 4 lety +3

      😂😂😂

    • @jewl123
      @jewl123 Před 4 lety +2

      BRUHHHHHH😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Před 4 lety

      I don't get it. What am I missing?

    • @TheRichTrader7
      @TheRichTrader7 Před 4 lety +2

      @@lachlanbell8390 it's a reference to when Chael had a scuffle with wanderlai silva when they were coaching the ultimate fighter years ago lol.... Watch the video

    • @jewl123
      @jewl123 Před 4 lety +2

      @@lachlanbell8390 just type in, "Chael Sonnen I can't let you get close"

  • @CH-wn8sq
    @CH-wn8sq Před 4 lety +199

    "Here's my location you little fewl, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU"
    - USADA to Jon right after the fight

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Před 4 lety +33

      Jones doesn't have to worry about USADA anymore, he's clean now.
      You can tell because he can't finish a fight to save his life.

    • @mrbeanz1984
      @mrbeanz1984 Před 4 lety +9

      @@lachlanbell8390 literally finished a fight 2 fights ago....awks

    • @jedeye1330
      @jedeye1330 Před 4 lety +13

      @@mrbeanz1984 Pico gram was still in his system.🤣

    • @For_The_Watch
      @For_The_Watch Před 4 lety +12

      mr beanz you mean the last time he popped hot and they literally uprooted and moved a PPV for him when other dudes got 2 year suspensions for the exact same thing?

    • @nathanhernandez9170
      @nathanhernandez9170 Před 4 lety +5

      @@lachlanbell8390 Jones dominated Smith 5-0 and 4-1 Santos. I mean no one else does that and 3-2 to Reyes. Your just a hater waiting for the goat to fall

  • @knogface
    @knogface Před 4 lety +344

    Is noone gonna compliment Jones head movement . Dude was on a swivel.

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety +72

      knogface exactly showing the ability to dodge punches like he was should be considered too. Jones won it

    • @Montoya1991
      @Montoya1991 Před 4 lety +60

      Yeah his head definitely got hit much more than he hit Reyes 😂

    • @knogface
      @knogface Před 4 lety +30

      @@Montoya1991 right... And Dom hand hands, but anytime he went for the kill Jones slipped it off. For the record I don't think Jones won the fight.

    • @robinhoodz3897
      @robinhoodz3897 Před 4 lety +55

      Are you on crack, he got lit up. Anyone who though Jones won is the biggest dick rider in history or a casual bum.

    • @knogface
      @knogface Před 4 lety +28

      @@robinhoodz3897 hence why I said I don't think Jones won. But hey it's ok bud... Breath

  • @zz9840
    @zz9840 Před 4 lety +86

    Tony “I think I took rounds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 against Jon and Dom” Ferguson

  • @qwertyasdfg9663
    @qwertyasdfg9663 Před 4 lety +64

    Jones shoutout to jesus christ before the fight finally paid off , he changed the names on the score card, just like everyone else , i too thought 49-46 was gonna be followed by and new

    • @NASkeywest
      @NASkeywest Před 4 lety +4

      It should have.

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety +9

      I will say Reyes was the largest underdog almost ever against Jones so a lot of bets were in. Probably some worth upwards of millions. Mr. Joe Soleiz I think is the refs name. Possible he was paid a mill to save the casinos from paying about 200 mill

    • @NASkeywest
      @NASkeywest Před 4 lety

      @@evanodum563 considering Danas old business partners own the Palms Casino im not surprised.

    • @traphomebaby
      @traphomebaby Před 4 lety

      @@evanodum563 dont work that way pretty sure more money would be made If dom won as I'm sure 90%+ of the bets were on jon to win.. sure those few dom payouts would be nuts but nothing crazy

  • @ricoriley1321
    @ricoriley1321 Před 4 lety +148

    Dominick Reyes: I landed more significant hits, dodged jones' fingers towards my eyes, shrugged of multiple takedowns, inflicted more damage and won 3 out of 5 rounds!
    Chael Sonnen: Ok Great!

    • @Adizzle235
      @Adizzle235 Před 4 lety +3

      U forget he had to fight against the judges too with the Texas rules....

    • @JJones-oi3jc
      @JJones-oi3jc Před 4 lety +7

      Get over it its done

    • @TacoMaster07
      @TacoMaster07 Před 4 lety +13

      inflicted more damage how?? by breaking his nose on jones fist? by bashing jones' foot with his face? by getting elbowed and having a cut gush blood that required stitches?

    • @worldwolf9909
      @worldwolf9909 Před 4 lety +3

      @@TacoMaster07 Right, the only guy to really bust Jon up was Gus.

    • @goatedcrafty7733
      @goatedcrafty7733 Před 4 lety +4

      @@TacoMaster07 Jon Jones can't even speak properly in the octagon interview because of them body shots.

  • @afranydynoa6750
    @afranydynoa6750 Před 4 lety +127

    Chael prides himself on the fact he broke Jon Jones’s toe in their fight 😭

  • @drpepper1711
    @drpepper1711 Před 4 lety +35

    Let’s get this straight, Reyes should have won the fight but let’s not forget the fact that volkan beat Reyes and everyone thought Reyes lost that fight aswell, bad calls go both ways for everyone.

    • @qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232
      @qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes. We NEED a fix for this broken system of scoring/judging!

    • @SonGokuuuuuuu
      @SonGokuuuuuuu Před 4 lety +1

      Robbery for robbery lool

    • @lalhriatkimadochhil6046
      @lalhriatkimadochhil6046 Před 4 lety +1

      Reyes didn't deserve the belt yet

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety

      @@qislegit.donttrustthemedia6232 The system isnt great, but it works... As long as they fix the judges. The Krause fight Krause had the guys back for minutes round 1 and almost submitted him. 1 late reversal at the very end and Krause lost that round and a split decision. Same card btw. Same shit judge.

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety +1

      @@lalhriatkimadochhil6046 Reyes is 30 and "the future" though so he will have another chanc.... wait... Hes 30? Thats not the future like everyone is saying. The future is 20-25 right now. Reyes wont get the belt from Jon in a rematch. Jon now knows how to beat him.

  • @914southside
    @914southside Před 4 lety +102

    Somehow someway James harden was fouled in that fight

  • @gft56zi47
    @gft56zi47 Před 4 lety +56

    Reyes vs Santos to determine who gets their rematch first, personally think Santos wins that one
    in the meantime Jon fights Anderson

    • @Merrick
      @Merrick Před 4 lety +7

      This is a really good idea
      As long as Corey gets through Jan, which he should be able to do
      how far off is Santos from being able to enter camp?
      only disagreement is that Santos beats Reyes, regardless that is a great fight.
      And when does Jones start thinking retirement? last two fights were very close and looking at a rematch with one of them...

    • @docrakidocraki8067
      @docrakidocraki8067 Před 4 lety +2

      No, keep them away for now, it makes the division more interesting having two legitimate contenders

    • @Brrrrrt
      @Brrrrrt Před 4 lety +4

      Jones lost to santos and reyes he should have to rematch both of then especially because santos tore 4 different ligaments in his knee he easily wins that fight if that dont happen he should fight Santos then reyes they both already beat him

    • @734gman-vs5uf
      @734gman-vs5uf Před 4 lety +2

      Anderson kos jon in rd1 Fight ends. They raise jons hand n say jones wins by ko! Then show scorecards that already have 10-9 for jon rd 1,2,3,4, and5

    • @gft56zi47
      @gft56zi47 Před 4 lety +2

      Well Jones historically does a lot better in rematches. Thats fact.
      i don't know about Santos recovery process, I do think he beats Reyes, because Reyes was apparently carried by Dana White after the fight and I think we all can agree that Santos kicks way harder and faster than Jones, just look at these crazy leg kicks vs Jones, Jones was carried out of the Octagon. Reyes is still a a better striker technical-wise but Santos just goes off when he lands on you.
      Don't think he'll retire anytime soon, he still seems to me that he's not operating at 100%
      I don't think he lost to Santos, because after the Knee buckled Jones was the better man
      Reyes depends on how you judge a fight, there a lot of people who still think Jones won, e.g. Conors Coach.
      But both fights give the UFC one job to come up with their own Scoring system which should be used everywhere, because atm all the different commissions have their own system, that's why there is a lot of controversy surrounding some fights.
      i do think, if a more likable Guy like DC would've been in Jones' place, there would be still some controversy about the fight, but not as much Jones isn't the most liked Fighter and many want to see him lose

  • @mastersteeler1367
    @mastersteeler1367 Před 4 lety +114

    Never been the same since the bad guy nearly took his toe as a trophy.

    • @user-zg1zb3io2e
      @user-zg1zb3io2e Před 4 lety

      master steeler Wait what lmao

    • @user-zg1zb3io2e
      @user-zg1zb3io2e Před 4 lety

      adam hags ohhh thank you lmfao

    • @ParaNoid816
      @ParaNoid816 Před 4 lety +10

      It is kind funny that Jones still has to tape that toe up. He didn't just break it. He broke it OFF.

    • @aytothakay
      @aytothakay Před 4 lety +3

      @adam hags after fighting Chael? They discovered it between rounds, Chael simply glared at Jon and mangled his limbs like a voodoo doll.

    • @viktorcheng2061
      @viktorcheng2061 Před 4 lety +1

      Jones big toe was so jacked, it shocked him during the octagon interview, dude almost passed out. Shows how strong Chael’s body was.

  • @weldplanet8806
    @weldplanet8806 Před 4 lety +4

    Chael... your the dude!!!! I always want to hear what you’re saying you just keep it real your feelings are not in it you just call it how you see it and your insight is like wow!!! Ur da dude!!!!!

  • @MeetingYourDog
    @MeetingYourDog Před 4 lety

    I love Chael man, so well-spoken and articulate. Keep killing it.

  • @voidud
    @voidud Před 4 lety +12

    Bones with a masterclass in defense. Most of Reyes "Significant" Strikes were blocked, parried or rolled off shoulders. Which is to say nothing of Jones head movement making him whiff entirely.

    • @Superman54
      @Superman54 Před 4 lety

      Check out the breakdown by the weasel. Lots landed. He does frame by frame breakdowns.

    • @voidud
      @voidud Před 4 lety

      @@Superman54 Huh never heard of him but I'll def check that out. Thanks for the protip

    • @fatashreviews5670
      @fatashreviews5670 Před 4 lety +1

      Guess you missed the upper cut that knocked every beed of sweat off jons body and snapped his head almost off

  • @Montoya1991
    @Montoya1991 Před 4 lety +24

    I find it funny that ppl keep saying Reyes was running away(even though Reyes was outlanding Jones when he was backing up) when Jones LITERALLY turned around and sprinted accros the octagon to get away from Reyes several times 😂

    • @atillacnar5785
      @atillacnar5785 Před 4 lety +1

      Black people say that they on jons dick

    • @hectormorones8733
      @hectormorones8733 Před 4 lety +3

      It’s like people forget that completely didn’t happen lol

    • @mr.sphlictor9649
      @mr.sphlictor9649 Před 4 lety

      Blacks barely watch the UFC. Get the BBC out your mouth bitch. Real world shit to deal with. No time to worry about another man's battle when we have our own.

    • @ThatGuy-tn6lp
      @ThatGuy-tn6lp Před 4 lety +1

      16yaşında bi adam and white people are salty that black guys are running the game 🤣🤣 Jones, adesayna, usman

    • @michaelatkins8833
      @michaelatkins8833 Před 4 lety

      Jon still controlled the octagon the whole time.

  • @weirdg393
    @weirdg393 Před 4 lety +32

    Chael: "Dominic had a knockdown in the first round that's official. Well I don't agree, I think it was a slip"
    Ariel: "They didn't score it as a knockdown, I don't understand why was it not scored as a knockdown"

    • @richardjackson5670
      @richardjackson5670 Před 4 lety

      Weird G: I'm an idiot

    • @lloydandrei4450
      @lloydandrei4450 Před 4 lety +3

      Richard Jackson: i'm autistic

    • @himynamesgod2163
      @himynamesgod2163 Před 4 lety

      it was a push down more than a knock down. Tell me any fight where someone goes down to a straight to the body in the first round.... never happened in my knowledge and I've been watching fights for 14 years now. Cro Cop had the ability to land a heavy kick to the mid section and put them down but that is the only person and it was never a fist always a kick. I think it was scored properly well sorta lol. 3-2 jones. I watched it like 5 times and I initially thought it was 2,4,5 jones. after watching I think Reyes won round 2 but I think that round 3 was won by Jon octagon control, brief take down, and there was no big difference in strikes. Regardless one hell of a fight!

    • @elibertoeliberto7778
      @elibertoeliberto7778 Před 4 lety

      @@himynamesgod2163
      How about Reyes vs Jones ? It happened there !

    • @himynamesgod2163
      @himynamesgod2163 Před 4 lety

      @@elibertoeliberto7778 It was not counted as a knock down. But a slip. It has a poor camera angle but at the end of that round or the fight when they go through the highlights you can see Jon going for a kick meaning he was on one foot and getting hit in the stomach which made him fall it was not in any manner a knock down.

  • @Peenurpool
    @Peenurpool Před 4 lety

    I’ve recently just stumbled on this channel.. I’ve always had a ton of respect for Chael... great fighter and very intelligent... also very interesting and can host great conversation... guy has a lot of talent for sure 👍... he could actually move up to much greater things , and I’m sure will succeed at anything he applies himself to... lots of respect for this man👍

  • @brandonmcninja
    @brandonmcninja Před 4 lety

    What a fight. Great analysis Chael.

  • @MrJfonso777
    @MrJfonso777 Před 4 lety +8

    The review we have all been waiting for🙏

  • @costcostore7376
    @costcostore7376 Před 4 lety +47

    1:45 oh stop it Chael, Reyes did say what he did that Jon hasn’t seen before.. play baseball and football.

    • @chrispierno2425
      @chrispierno2425 Před 4 lety

      Don't forget he's a chef too

    • @danielphipps4271
      @danielphipps4271 Před 4 lety +1

      Both of Jon's brothers are NFL players

    • @RollingxBigshot
      @RollingxBigshot Před 4 lety

      Daniel Phipps but Jones wasn’t................

    • @Ios13056
      @Ios13056 Před 4 lety

      @@danielphipps4271 And hets dominated by them lol

    • @milwaukeebrewers6337
      @milwaukeebrewers6337 Před 4 lety

      @@danielphipps4271 my mother is a surgeon, my father is an engineer.... i been to their jobs alot of times, ive read some books...... Do you think i Qualify for either?? Lmao smh.... just because his bros were mediocre NFL players doesnt mean Jons is one too.

  • @GodyP
    @GodyP Před 4 lety +10

    It’s kinda sad how badly ppl wanted jones to lose

    • @yamon598
      @yamon598 Před 4 lety +1

      Even more sad how badly the judges fought for him to win. Subtract the difference and that still out ways any of our desires🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @adamholt4317
    @adamholt4317 Před 4 lety +17

    Jon is just so hard to land clean on he makes excellent fighters look sloppy. Such a great performance by both guys. Reyes has a solid argument but he should have pushed a little more in rd 2 or 3 OR do what he said he was and knock out the champ. Here's the worst part, no way he wins the rematch. Sorry bud.

    • @megaunknown400
      @megaunknown400 Před 4 lety

      No way he wins the rematch lol??? Oh you're also one that believes jones does better in rematches even tho his only had 2 rematches and in both those rematches his popped for steroids? That was reyes 1st time going 5 rounds if anyones coming back harder the 2nd fight its reyes not Jones.

    • @adamholt4317
      @adamholt4317 Před 4 lety

      I am, I think based what we've seen in the octagon Jon is just better in rematches, that's a valid point. I think Reyes will also go harder and work on his pacing in a 2nd fight, but I can't see him ever beating Jon Jones now

  • @Skankhunt420.
    @Skankhunt420. Před 4 lety +21

    Whats stunning to me is how the judges thought that Jones won any of the 1st three rounds

    • @wolfpackwarriors
      @wolfpackwarriors Před 4 lety

      Yup i was legit stunned reyes lost

    • @TheInfamousThey305
      @TheInfamousThey305 Před 4 lety

      first 2*

    • @camgrabert7963
      @camgrabert7963 Před 4 lety +4

      bro, i promise you... re watch the fight and turn your volume down..... just watch the fight with no commentary and you will see that round 2 and 3 were both coin flip rounds......... the commentating leaves a bias toward reyes..... the second round was razor close......

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety

      Take away that body shot knockdown from round 2 that everyone thought was a shot to Jones head and round 2 looks a bit different. I rewatched the fight a couple times now. Its different every time I watch it almost in rounds 2 and 3

    • @qmayfield3007
      @qmayfield3007 Před 4 lety

      elevatedmind Exactly! Cause I personally thought Jon edged out that 3rd round and won the last two for sure

  • @10use
    @10use Před 4 lety +2

    Even if u give Reyes the extra points or the round advantage to beat the champ and take away his or her belt you have to significantly overpower them by KO or TKO or have them tap out...Close fights usually arent given to the title challenger....A significant defeat is required to win the belt.

    • @avathar53
      @avathar53 Před 4 lety

      The Jones/Reyes result might only serve to prove your point as to how people (though hopefully not judges) see it, but...
      that's not how the scoring system is set up to work, that is simply the error of human emotion/logic entering into things.
      Logically speaking, shouldn't the onus be on the champion to do enough to win given their holding of the esteemed title as a champion?

    • @Nyarlarthotep9
      @Nyarlarthotep9 Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah. But that mentality is shit. Like its fine for a fan, but not a judge. When that cage closes no one is champ that belt is up for grabs. Any other 5 round fight if one fighter wins 3 rounds and the other wins 2 the fighter who won 3 rounds wins. Returning basketball champs layups aren't worth 3 points because their champs. And round 4 or 5 shouldn't be worth more than rounds 1-3. Fights are fights they should be judged the same regardless of the combatants. You know what you should have to do to win the belt? Win the fight. And the judge who gave jones 4 out of 5 rounds needs his judging card pulled.

    • @10use
      @10use Před 4 lety

      @@avathar53 ...Interesting points but I am actually speaking from the judges perspective...or from a practical standpoint...Im no expert but from many years of watching UFC it seems that this trend is not an anomaly and close fights that have the title on the line are often given to the champion not the challenger...so it seems the judges have been scoring fights this way...If you think about it its only in non title fights were close to call situstions sometimes get an unexpected challenger hand raised...Title fights have stricter scoring standards for the challenger to meet if they are to walk away with the belt.

  • @jasonbrown825
    @jasonbrown825 Před 4 lety

    Been waiting for this since Sunday

  • @linjohnston846
    @linjohnston846 Před 4 lety +4

    Most impressive feat in fighting. Jon Jones has never lost the 5th round.

    • @duramaxdad
      @duramaxdad Před 4 lety

      Another interesting stat. Jon fought in CA when he was scheduled to fight in Vegas. Both quite impressive for opposite reasons.

  • @akacurmurdar1
    @akacurmurdar1 Před 4 lety +11

    I may be the only one here that thought Jones won rounds 2,4,5 but hey, I'm not an expert.

    • @justaperson9995
      @justaperson9995 Před 4 lety +2

      You’re not alone

    • @lawrencemerriman8768
      @lawrencemerriman8768 Před 4 lety +3

      I had it the same way and I thought Reyes only clearly won round 1. I thought Jones clearly won rounds 4 and 5 imo. 2 and 3 were a toss up. 3-2 Jones imo

    • @shandog7623
      @shandog7623 Před 4 lety

      I agree. 2, 4 & 5 to Jones. Very close fight indeed. Reyes had an edge in the boxing. Jon's kicks, octagon control and takedowns were the difference. Reyes fought in spurts too whereas Jones didn't slow down at all.

    • @GapModel1
      @GapModel1 Před 4 lety +1

      Same here. I think round 2 was similar to the Conor vs Nick 2 fight where Conor and Jones had control of the fight the majority of the time but people think the other guy won that round because the other guy was more explosive at the end of the round but if you consider everthing that happen, Jones/Conor actually won that round.

  • @bigguyjourney
    @bigguyjourney Před 4 lety

    I've been waiting on your breakdown.

  • @theuniverse7227
    @theuniverse7227 Před 4 lety +1

    What’s beautiful between rivalries in MMA is that the opponents may not like each other on a personal level, but they still respect the skills that one another bring to the table.

  • @Nah.-3
    @Nah.-3 Před 4 lety +53

    I think if it was a REAL, ROUND-LESS fight Jon Jones would’ve eventually found a way to kill him. He’s tenacious 😂

    • @caseyhowell2220
      @caseyhowell2220 Před 4 lety

      I agree that to kill one who has a killer instinct you have to flat out kill him metaphorically seeking just doing enough vs Jones caliber of fighter is not what the judges want to see and a ko of Jones would made the belt sweeter ×5.

    • @liammorgans7329
      @liammorgans7329 Před 4 lety +2

      I don’t 🤷🏼‍♂️
      Dom woulda kicked his face off when he knocked him on the ground.

    • @paigerocks884
      @paigerocks884 Před 4 lety

      But it's not and he lost.

    • @civilizeddiscussion697
      @civilizeddiscussion697 Před 4 lety

      Useless arguemnt. What next? If jones hold a gun he will win too?

    • @justaperson9995
      @justaperson9995 Před 4 lety +1

      civilized discussion nah. Jones won without the gun so

  • @myinfinity1743
    @myinfinity1743 Před 4 lety +18

    Reyes won rounds 1 an 2 round 3 was technically sound and could have went either way but i didn't like how Reyes gased out sn actually started to run late in the fight.. he could have stood an engaged more in the 4th for 5th

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety +3

      my Infinity round 3 was a draw in my book

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety +3

      Tupac Nation he was barely throwing in the 5th lol and round 4 only had a couple shots in the beginning then lost the rest of the round. If there was another round to the fight he would get walked through by Jones

    • @semyaza555
      @semyaza555 Před 4 lety

      Aydin M I feel the same way. The 3rd round was really ambiguous.

    • @robinhoodz3897
      @robinhoodz3897 Před 4 lety +1

      Casual fans opinion, jones did nothing first 3 rounds and took many many shots. Of course your going to gas out if you put the pace on in the first 3. Use your head.

    • @johnnyb5534
      @johnnyb5534 Před 4 lety +1

      Bro, you can't just keep up a fast pace forever. Reyes was way more active for the first three rounds. That's why he had less energy in the 4th and 5th. Same thing that happened to Conor vs. Floyd, Conor came on strong, and Mayweather was just steady, and then picked up the pace in round 7ish. It's not rocket science. You could easily make the same argument, but for Jones. You could easily say I don't like how Jones came out slow. Plus it's not like Reyes was gassed, he was still active, Jon just had more energy.

  • @Toddy7155
    @Toddy7155 Před 4 lety +1

    Lotsa boxers with longer reach move forward! I feel dirty correcting Unky Chael!

  • @GoodlookinMug
    @GoodlookinMug Před 4 lety

    Man oh Man! I really do enjoy listening to Uncle-C’s personal insights of competition.
    Even when he is playing the role of company man. As he would say, “ to the highest of levels “.
    #companyman

  • @dame4368
    @dame4368 Před 4 lety +10

    Chael is a genius, very credible.. you should be judging these fights

    • @aleksanderszymanowski6631
      @aleksanderszymanowski6631 Před 4 lety

      Dame I think he would probably judge the non productive takedowns as significant and the dominant striking numbers as less important being that kind of fighter himself.

    • @dame4368
      @dame4368 Před 4 lety

      Aleksander Szymanowski thats fine never said anything wrong with the decision but 49-46 is not good.. not good at all.

  • @MuhammadHamza-mg5nr
    @MuhammadHamza-mg5nr Před 4 lety +4

    Totally agreed. I was more impressed by Jon's will to win than by Reye's aggression during the fight! ❤

  • @josephkelley8641
    @josephkelley8641 Před 4 lety

    Great analysis Chael, as always. Love the way Jon GAVE Jon's self a-chance-to-win,
    and when Jon didn't have Jon's A-Game. Plus Dominick's a very hard dude to gauge,
    was absolutely on top of Dominick's game - be interesting to see the adjustments
    in a possible rematch.
    .

  • @enterthebruce91
    @enterthebruce91 Před 4 lety

    Gotta Love uncle Chael. Nice analysis as always!

  • @funkyfreshkid08
    @funkyfreshkid08 Před 4 lety +12

    1- reyes
    2 - jj
    3- toss up
    4- jj
    5-jj
    Mfs get caught up in flurries where 1 of 6 punches land or graze jj. Every time combos come everybody gets excited like bruh he missed tho. They were showing slow mo reyes highlights of him missing Jones lmao just rewatch it i promise u you'll end up being closer to 4-1 Jones

    • @lawrencemerriman8768
      @lawrencemerriman8768 Před 4 lety +1

      @C.H.A.D Bravo I actually had a similar score
      1) Reyes
      2) Toss up/JJ edge
      3) Toss up/ Reyes edge
      4) JJ
      5) JJ
      Reyes only had one decisive round imo Jones had 2. and if u made me score a 10-9 must system on the fight I'd have to say 3-2 Jones.
      Furthermore, for future reference, I think the champ rounds should count as 1.5 points/rounds and there should be real time scoring so a fighter knows if hes up or down

    • @jamesdack7638
      @jamesdack7638 Před 4 lety +1

      If you think round two went to Jones you are on crack.

    • @livejacker
      @livejacker Před 4 lety +3

      Jones fan boy here. Only muppets saying this shite. Every single podcaster, commentators Internet all say reyes won 3-2

    • @callumslack2762
      @callumslack2762 Před 4 lety +1

      If it is a toss up it could be 49-46 jones. So although Reyes doesn’t deserve i think most people can agree that Jon Jones could have won 2, 3, 4 and 5 and Reyes also could have won 2 and 3. Just because Reyes deserves to not have a 49-46 I could agree with that scorecard

    • @funkyfreshkid08
      @funkyfreshkid08 Před 4 lety

      @C.H.A.D Bravo ikr 😅. Tbh 1st watch i gave 1-2 to reyes and 3rd was the toss up. 2nd and 3rd watch all those shots you thought reyes had were missing or getting blocked and bones was landing flush. Every punch seemed to hit the target.

  • @mz204455
    @mz204455 Před 4 lety +44

    Jones arguably lost his last two matches. He’s hasn’t been the same after being clean.

  • @Superunrealfighter
    @Superunrealfighter Před 4 lety +1

    Chael hits it on the nail on this one. No one with the longer reach walks the opponent down. Jones always fights best off the back foot. In the first Gus fight he walked forward and got countered. In the Santos fight he walked forward and got countered, in this fight he did the same. Jones is at his best when his opponent pressures him, and especially if they’re aggressive while doing it.

  • @4000marcdman
    @4000marcdman Před 4 lety

    A slip is when you go to the ground without an outside force. He went down because of the punch when he was off balance not because he fell without an outside force.

  • @CraigEmpson
    @CraigEmpson Před 4 lety +8

    If this was something like masvidal vs usman in the exact same result and performance then there would not be such an uproar, it's just people want jones to lose so badly. It was very close and neither dominated or took major damage.

    • @mpeg2000
      @mpeg2000 Před 4 lety

      If Johnes didn't walked forward all the time it would have looked much clearer that he landed less strikes.

    • @lawrencemerriman8768
      @lawrencemerriman8768 Před 4 lety

      @@mpeg2000 I mean landing more strikes doesn't mean you win. and also Jon landed the only takedowns of the fight, even if it was only a minute of control. neither won decisively so JJ retains his belt

    • @cajeb5396
      @cajeb5396 Před 4 lety +1

      @@lawrencemerriman8768 BS excuses. He got pieced up for 3 rounds. He got takedowns in rounds he won already and they weren't effective takedowns at all. He lost but the judges gifted him the decision

  • @Carb-A-Ween
    @Carb-A-Ween Před 4 lety +5

    I remember watching the old UFCs and they displayed the criteria the judges are looking for, they don't do that anymore

    • @richardsmith5803
      @richardsmith5803 Před 4 lety +1

      They did. You are just blind

    • @camgrabert7963
      @camgrabert7963 Před 4 lety

      they do it at the beginning of the card if im not mistaken

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety

      @@richardsmith5803 They do still but not the same outline for dummies they used to lay out.

  • @FeathersMcGraw_
    @FeathersMcGraw_ Před 4 lety +1

    Thank god you're back. I forgot how dark and empty my life is if Uncle Chael doesn't upload a video everyday.

  • @chrisz0619
    @chrisz0619 Před 4 lety

    Chael the company man doing what he does best.

  • @joshlawton4973
    @joshlawton4973 Před 4 lety +3

    was anyone at the last video like "I have to go to sleep oh whats this" and is now here?

  • @WilliamPatinoPhotography
    @WilliamPatinoPhotography Před 4 lety +6

    The great one has finally spoken.

  • @afrotech69
    @afrotech69 Před 4 lety

    I agree it was a close match, but in the end, JJ left a winning impression on the judges during the championship rounds that clinched the victory. Also, take into consideration the rules below.
    All bouts will be evaluated and scored by 3 judges who shall evaluate the contest from different location around the ring/fighting area. The referee may not be one of the 3 judges.
    The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and 9 points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).
    Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as effective striking, effective grappling, control of the ring/fighting area, effective aggressiveness and defense.
    Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and effective aggressiveness and defense.
    Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal strikes landed by a contestant.
    Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position fighters using an active threatening guard.
    Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider are countering a grappler's attempt at takedown by remaining standing and legally striking, taking down an opponent to force a ground fight, creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve mount, and creating striking opportunities.
    Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal strike.
    Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or reversed while countering with offensive attacks.
    The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round:
    a round is to be scored as a 10-10 round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round;
    a round is to be scored as a 10-9 round when a contestant wins by a close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes, grappling and other maneuvers;
    a round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
    a round is to be scored as a 10-7 round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
    Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:
    if the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the canvas, then:
    Effective grappling is weighed first; and
    Effective striking is then weighed
    If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing, then:
    Effective striking is weighed first; and
    Effective grappling is then weighed
    A round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
    If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas fighting, striking and grappling are weighed equally.

  • @eldorisgardner
    @eldorisgardner Před 4 lety

    I know he's saying it's rare for a fighter with a longer reach to move forward. But Ronald "Winky" Wright used to have a great guard, and move forward behind his jab and just walk people down. His fights against "Sugar" Shane Mosley are a showcase of that ability.

  • @stonecold316339
    @stonecold316339 Před 4 lety +5

    Jones vs Reyes was a great fight I hope they make the immediate rematch.

  • @josephsage3524
    @josephsage3524 Před 4 lety +45

    It was a good fight.

    • @avid2112
      @avid2112 Před 4 lety

      @Whitemana88 I agree it was slow.

    • @truthbtold2824
      @truthbtold2824 Před 4 lety +1

      It was a good rigged fight.

    • @lawrencemerriman8768
      @lawrencemerriman8768 Před 4 lety +2

      @Whitemana88 they arr LHWs ffs. go watch flyweights bc those 2 LHWs are some of the faster LHWs

    • @prime7042
      @prime7042 Před 4 lety +1

      Whitemana88 wow
      A casual in his natural environment

    • @terrytari1891
      @terrytari1891 Před 4 lety +1

      Hell Yeah! Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @utboilerman
    @utboilerman Před 4 lety +1

    Chael, It was evident that Reyes used Jones forward pressure as part of his game plan.

  • @daves9664
    @daves9664 Před 4 lety +2

    I honestly thought rounds 2 and 3 were so close they couldve gone to either guy. Rounds 4 and 5 were jons clearly and the most dominant round from either fighter was round 5 for jones. I cant complain if reyes gets the nod, but i cant complain if jon gets it either. I feel like theres a lot of jones haters out here saying robbery. That was most definitely not a robbery. However, a rematch would be appropriate if jon doesnt go to heavyweight.

    • @daves9664
      @daves9664 Před 4 lety

      Matt White sounds like your just a jones hater champ, not even worth replying.

    • @justaperson9995
      @justaperson9995 Před 4 lety

      Matt White Jon never got rocked in that entire fight. And that was in no way a knockdown. There was no damage done. He just fell because of lack of balance.

  • @richardsmith5803
    @richardsmith5803 Před 4 lety +31

    This is was reyes gets for "winning" that fight to volkan. He gets to lose a fight he won.

    • @atillacnar5785
      @atillacnar5785 Před 4 lety +8

      I agree but he outclassed jon. Jon was hopeless his 'takedown' made me laugh

    • @bigeggmayo123
      @bigeggmayo123 Před 4 lety

      Had forgotten about that. Goes both ways i guess

    • @donovans6472
      @donovans6472 Před 4 lety +2

      @richard smith.....thanks i just went and watched the volkan fight and it looked like volkan won that.....so i guess now the tables are turned

    • @triszlers
      @triszlers Před 4 lety

      I disagree but that’s hilarious thank you

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 Před 4 lety +10

      @Tupac Nation go and rewatch round number 2..
      No sound, no commentary..
      Reyes maybe didnt win that round..
      I gave it to reyes.. I gave 48 47 reyes..
      But then i rewatched round no 2.
      I advise you to do the same..
      Pay attention at how many punches reyes missed, how many landed..

  • @BartBasquiato
    @BartBasquiato Před 4 lety +4

    I think when you're a challenger you gotta show a lil more for the judges to take you over the champ in a close fight.. I don't hate Reyes but just the fact he wasnt down to throw down the last 15 seconds disappointed me I had them 2-2 & one of the rounds could of gotten either way but Jones wasnt gonna lose the streak like that

    • @fencefirst2722
      @fencefirst2722 Před 4 lety

      Exactly

    • @BartBasquiato
      @BartBasquiato Před 4 lety

      @@fencefirst2722 I'm a Jones fan not gonna lie but I had Reyes winning but he would just do good the first min then slow down the whole round (so that's when I say it's not enough).. then Jones had control of the ring, people just wanna say Jones loss cause he got dropped funny cause I started watching after it happened.. so when people said he got dropped I was like shiitttt then I saw the replay & was like what do you mean Jones got dropped

  • @goated.content
    @goated.content Před 4 lety +2

    I think Reyes did land a bunch of power shots but I will offer you this. If you re-watch that fight as if Jones is just a fighter and not the legend he is, I think you'd be suprised how much we overreact to some of these shots that both Santos and Reyes land, and how much of them actually land clean.

  • @mediathor7532
    @mediathor7532 Před 4 lety

    Great video

  • @taylorbryant4011
    @taylorbryant4011 Před 4 lety +23

    Na it’s what’s next for Reyes screw Jon he shouldn’t have picked that win up

    • @pokerbeast6402
      @pokerbeast6402 Před 4 lety +2

      No, Reyes has to beat the champ not edge him .everyone knows that, u sound very casual right now

    • @kaizo_tv
      @kaizo_tv Před 4 lety +3

      @@pokerbeast6402 you're a bum. Get a job loser

    • @atillacnar5785
      @atillacnar5785 Před 4 lety +2

      @@pokerbeast6402 you sound very stupid. If it was khabib vs conor and conor won first 3rounds rock khabib multiple times even at the start of the 4th you morons would cry robbery

    • @strikeforcek9149
      @strikeforcek9149 Před 4 lety +3

      @@pokerbeast6402 He did beat the champ, 3rds to 2... lol
      The same way Jones has beat numerous people in decisions. Hence, why there no shame in it, that's just part of the game. Otherwise, there'd be no points awarded, no need to score a 5rd champion bout...

    • @maverick33guy95
      @maverick33guy95 Před 4 lety

      Considering JJ won rounds 3 4 and 5...Yeah it is about JJ

  • @StevenTalley
    @StevenTalley Před 4 lety +6

    Felt like Jon was blocking or slipping/rolling on most of Reyes' strikes and always pushing forward and owning ring generalship. The latter I think is what won him the fight the most.

    • @avathar53
      @avathar53 Před 4 lety +2

      Finally, a sound argument as to why Jones may have been scored an extra round!
      I happen to agree that this might be what the judges saw and certainly hope that this and not the takedowns (which led to nothing; no advancement of position or damage caused) made the difference.

    • @isaactakeuchimusic
      @isaactakeuchimusic Před 4 lety +2

      The problem with that, is that in the unified rules, ring control happens if all other factors are equal. Aggression is Plan B. Ring Control is Plan C. Effective strikes and grappling take precedence.

    • @howtogetoutofbabylon8978
      @howtogetoutofbabylon8978 Před 4 lety +1

      @@avathar53
      You both are absolutely correct.
      DR was drenched in sweat.
      Jones hardly sweated a drop.
      He pressed forward, DR going backwards much of the last rounds.
      Jones drew blood. DR drew zip.
      He never hurt Jones.
      He slowed down, when he needed to pick up the pace or sty least maintain the pressure, sucking air with his mouth open, probably because of bleeding nose damage. Jones never tired enough to gasp for air or needed to suck air through his mouth.
      DR Never came close to doing any significant damage or a knock down, knock out.
      Rematch will tell the truth...

    • @StevenTalley
      @StevenTalley Před 4 lety +2

      @@isaactakeuchimusic gotcha, they mentioned Houston had not adopted the unified rules i believe. Wonder how big of an impact it had. I hope they run it back

    • @isaactakeuchimusic
      @isaactakeuchimusic Před 4 lety

      @@StevenTalley oh really? Hmm interesting. Would love to see it run back again.

  • @hankhill4353
    @hankhill4353 Před 4 lety

    Chael is a class act for this video

  • @Thekarmic
    @Thekarmic Před 4 lety

    “He was knocked, he did go down” I’m so alive 😂😂

  • @tokivialexawomi7921
    @tokivialexawomi7921 Před 4 lety +44

    'he was knocked, and he did go down, but it wasn't a knockdown' 😆

    • @domsugar9160
      @domsugar9160 Před 4 lety +7

      Casuals🤦

    • @trident4013
      @trident4013 Před 4 lety

      yea, I just stop watching right there

    • @abrahamclark767
      @abrahamclark767 Před 4 lety

      He's on one here.

    • @DJ-ht6lu
      @DJ-ht6lu Před 4 lety +1

      It was a trip, and those are never counted as a knock down in any fight.

    • @Beneducetattoo
      @Beneducetattoo Před 4 lety +1

      Donald Rogan A trip off of Dominic Reyes left hand?

  • @IronMikeThyson
    @IronMikeThyson Před 4 lety +10

    Whether you think Jon won or lost, one thing you can't say is there's anyone out there who can convincingly put him away.

    • @nimzzor
      @nimzzor Před 4 lety +2

      Agree, jons chin stays on point

    • @taylorbryant4011
      @taylorbryant4011 Před 4 lety +1

      Maybe in his weight class lolol

    • @Emilito91
      @Emilito91 Před 4 lety

      Iron Mike ngannou kos him if hes improved his td defense the way he needs to

    • @IronMikeThyson
      @IronMikeThyson Před 4 lety +2

      *in 205 of course 😂

  • @Onewayticket1000
    @Onewayticket1000 Před 4 lety

    I’m pretty sure Chael Sonnen has the best & most accurate explainations of all time.

  • @thejadashow1039
    @thejadashow1039 Před 4 lety +1

    Cant letchu get close..

  • @explicitgentleman4245
    @explicitgentleman4245 Před 4 lety +14

    When you going up against a champ you really have to beat their ass or you have to finish them.. Reyes did neither but he put up a gud fight..💯

    • @planbmindset9475
      @planbmindset9475 Před 4 lety +2

      Agreed

    • @Stang-wq9bv
      @Stang-wq9bv Před 4 lety +1

      You shouldn't have to beat em to death to win a fight. But, that's how it goes usually. If you don't finish the champ, the judges won't do it for you. Which is bullcrap. If you win, you win.

    • @BekKimChi
      @BekKimChi Před 4 lety

      not how the sport works
      we have unified rules for a reason
      check Ch 14 Article J Paragraphs i-iv
      Ch 14 is titled "Judging" the knowledge of these rules is what differentiates experts from the casuals

    • @explicitgentleman4245
      @explicitgentleman4245 Před 4 lety

      @Lee Joyner you see who still the champ don't you?

    • @explicitgentleman4245
      @explicitgentleman4245 Před 4 lety

      @@BekKimChi man what da hell you talking about?? Dont you see who Still the Champ?

  • @joshpittman6021
    @joshpittman6021 Před 4 lety +4

    In a championship fight with a longtime dominate champion you can’t win rounds 1 and 2 and have a close 3rd and lose the 4th and 5th and expect to win. You must dominate a champion to win. Reyes did incredible he’s a monster no doubt but in my opinion he didn’t do enough in the last 2 rounds to secure a victory.

    • @romanrebryk9251
      @romanrebryk9251 Před 4 lety

      Than it should have been a draw. I could see it. But Jones sure as hell didn't win that fight

    • @joshpittman6021
      @joshpittman6021 Před 4 lety

      Roman Rebryk good thing about having an opinion nobody’s right or wrong. The judges made the final decision and that’s all that matters.

    • @romanrebryk9251
      @romanrebryk9251 Před 4 lety

      @@joshpittman6021 I mean 49-46 was flat out WRONG.

    • @joshpittman6021
      @joshpittman6021 Před 4 lety

      Roman Rebryk I agree that was one sided but it wouldn’t of mattered anyways

  • @Metaljonus
    @Metaljonus Před 4 lety

    I say run it back cause it was a damn good fight and I'd like to see another one!

  • @isaacmzt5232
    @isaacmzt5232 Před 4 lety

    Hola Chael! Big fan from México here. To better understand the judges decision to give Jones the victory, could you break down the fight in terms of points? I wanted Jones to win, but i think he lost this one. We all saw Reyes strike more and lose to a Jones who claimed he won because of takedowns. How much do takedowns count when Jones could not dominate on the ground at all? What significan actions other than punches and kicks, can justify this victory? Regards amigo, hope you see this question!

  • @ryanghandour3615
    @ryanghandour3615 Před 4 lety +3

    rewatch the second round I'm pretty sure Reyes didn't land most of the strikes he just threw them and jones connected a lot with his strikes, but it seemed he was pressured in that round so people thought he lost but I'm not sure

  • @jakechambers1910
    @jakechambers1910 Před 4 lety +7

    Rayes could have won but no one defiantly won rounds 2,3 no one was robbed here lets hope for another good fight in the rematch

    • @Montoya1991
      @Montoya1991 Před 4 lety +2

      Round 2 wasn't close at all, Reyes dominated that round

    • @hjiuz6894
      @hjiuz6894 Před 4 lety

      Cheek Busting 101 whaat

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Montoya1991 no.. Thats where people got it all wrong..
      I thought 2nd one was clean..
      Go rewatch it in peace and you will see how close it really was..
      Reyes missed a lot of punches.

    • @jakechambers1910
      @jakechambers1910 Před 4 lety

      @@jonbonesmahomes7472 agreed iv wached it twice now and i thought more of it the 1st time when rayes was chasing jones round the ring after he missed a kick and that os what sticks with people but jones had the center of the octagon for most of the round and they were trading strikes

    • @johnb7337
      @johnb7337 Před 4 lety

      I rewatched that 2nd round and it looked closer than I remembered it. I think beyond just hating Jones a lot of people can't identify a blocked punch or near miss, or else think that the strike stat is a final round score.

  • @tstjohn777
    @tstjohn777 Před 4 lety

    At 9:20, it reminded me of the Ray Leonard fight against Hagler round 12. Middleweight fight.

  • @superflyguy4488
    @superflyguy4488 Před 4 lety

    Here's something, watch Round 2 again, except watch the whole round in slow motion, maybe 25% speed, tell me how many effective strikes you saw land, actual effective strikes, i think a few people will be suprised if they are honest with themselves.

  • @daviswinkelman7705
    @daviswinkelman7705 Před 4 lety +7

    Watching live I saw Reyes had 1 and 3 Jones had 2 4 5. This isn't kickboxing, there more to it than striking. Plus those significant strikes landed are generous

    • @jbot91
      @jbot91 Před 4 lety +4

      So all you have to do is move forward to win?

    • @evanodum563
      @evanodum563 Před 4 lety +1

      I saw Jones had 2 also. Many think the knockdown was a headshot when live. It was a weird angle. Take that out and Jones won round 2. Which it was removed from scoring and a slip so...

    • @Dayniel45
      @Dayniel45 Před 4 lety +1

      jbot91 be careful my guy you might pull their trap card “OcTaGoN cOnTroL”

    • @ablesanchez1035
      @ablesanchez1035 Před 4 lety +2

      You're on crack. That body shot was absolutely a knock down if you're going to say Jones got a takedown... Look at the numbers. 4 round Jones was running for his life!

    • @daviswinkelman7705
      @daviswinkelman7705 Před 4 lety

      @@jbot91 watching live to me it looked like neither of them were connecting very clean and it seemed pretty even to me in damage with the strikes. So you have to look at the other parts of the fight. I dont think judges go round by round all the time. Especially in a championship fight, you gotta beat the champ not just squeak it out. And saying that, I think they saw Reyes hold on the last 2 rounds and decided they couldn't let him win

  • @damirkranjcevic5886
    @damirkranjcevic5886 Před 4 lety +9

    " It was a knock and he was down, but it wasn't a knockdown" -

  • @baddawgwoof8502
    @baddawgwoof8502 Před 4 lety +2

    The reason Jon Jones don't quit is because he's a YOUNGER brother to 2 monsters. He decided a long time ago he ain't taking no shit. He's used to losing an to keep going it's part of who is is. He's alluded to this whenever he speaks about his brothers. Have you seen the size of em?

  • @glennyarrington347
    @glennyarrington347 Před 4 lety

    This is why a lot of people in the mma sport say to not leave it in the judges hands because this kind of shit happens way too much

  • @kboma6190
    @kboma6190 Před 4 lety +16

    Chael” I can’t let you get close” P Sonnen
    Jon Jones “I won that fight no doubt”
    Dominick Reyes “I’m a athlete”

  • @badnewsbrown10p
    @badnewsbrown10p Před 4 lety +7

    If they do the rematch I hope it's asap so Jones has less time to adapt his game. He murders guys in the rematch so.....

    • @Nyarlarthotep9
      @Nyarlarthotep9 Před 4 lety +6

      @Jeremy Stillwell
      .....so Reyes is 2 years younger than Jones. Anthony Smith was 1 year younger than Jones and a year older than Reyes. And Gustafson is the oldest with a whole 3 years on Reyes. Where does this mentality that Reyes is a kid come from? He's 30 not 23. I get it DC is 40, but that doesn't make Reyes younger.

    • @barbarajohnson2646
      @barbarajohnson2646 Před 4 lety

      Murder

    • @newworldgrover8588
      @newworldgrover8588 Před 4 lety +2

      Age is not the problem with 1-2 years difference. It's creativity. Jon is not improving.

    • @User73347
      @User73347 Před 4 lety

      New World Grover it’s clear he’s been a defensive fighter the last 2 fights, he’s tryna go home injury free to his family and shit

    • @duramaxdad
      @duramaxdad Před 4 lety

      Daniel Lehr Why do I feel like this is a math problem from a school book?

  • @allnupickyourbattle4113
    @allnupickyourbattle4113 Před 4 lety +1

    Well said... Jones best fight by far! Hats off to both fighters.

  • @YoungL_rd
    @YoungL_rd Před 4 lety

    I just knew he chael was going to have a field day with this one lol

  • @SIXX49ER
    @SIXX49ER Před 4 lety +20

    Pfft...Reyes won that fight.And remember this was the 1st time Reyes fought a 5 round fight.He may of lost the last 2 rounds but he WON the fight...What a shame..unreal..smh..

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety +1

      NIKKII SIXX he didn’t round 3 was a draw, got taken down, got pressured whole fight. And if the fight continued for even a round more jones would finish him, Reyes was gassed

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety

      M.J. Green doesn’t matter if he got back up, it’s still a takedown. It drained the fuck out his gas tank and should count. Fight should’ve been a draw at worst or Jon win

    • @lakehouse1607
      @lakehouse1607 Před 4 lety

      M.J. Green I’ve seen people use that argument, and then still say santos beat jones, so obviously there is some bias, on all sides for every ones

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 Před 4 lety

      @@aydin7266 no.. Round 2 was closer than round 3...round2 was a draw

  • @twillis873
    @twillis873 Před 4 lety +34

    It was officially not a knockdown Uncle Chael

    • @jmn1238
      @jmn1238 Před 4 lety +2

      Nogueira Karát yeah it was a slip officially right?

    • @twillis873
      @twillis873 Před 4 lety +2

      Yessir

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 Před 4 lety

      @@jmn1238 round was scored 10 9
      There you go..

    • @ishu345
      @ishu345 Před 4 lety

      Uncle Chael ruled it a knockdown means it was a knockdown buddy! 😒😠

    • @twillis873
      @twillis873 Před 4 lety +1

      Ishaan .P I ain’t your buddy guy

  • @finncentvega8400
    @finncentvega8400 Před 4 lety

    That knockdown was a slip wise words from Uncle Chael

  • @andreasmikoleiczik6120

    I think the problem is Dominic put too much pace on John in round 1 and 2 so by the 4th and 5th he was tired. Dominic needs to manage his energy output on the rematch to win.

  • @burglecutt1447
    @burglecutt1447 Před 4 lety +5

    It's all about the second round. And if you go back and watch it. It was closer that it seemed.

    • @jonbonesmahomes7472
      @jonbonesmahomes7472 Před 4 lety

      Correct..
      I was laughing at people that pointed me to round 2..
      Then i gave myself a chance, rewatched it 10 times in peace sound OFF..
      It was razor close..
      I think it was a draw..

    • @alphaalchemy2736
      @alphaalchemy2736 Před 4 lety +2

      Dc was right it was 2-2 going into the 5th . Jon won that is say . He was blocking a lot of the shots people were oooing and aaaahing about . That rematch is going to be NAAAASTY

    • @tegg02
      @tegg02 Před 4 lety

      Yes yes. Everyone saying 2nd rnd for Ryres but if you actually rewatch it Reyes is air swinging for alot of the rnd. Jones had more conections. I give 2,4,5 to Jones. Reyes foolishly took 5th off completly and paid the price. NO robbery here.

  • @maxmilly2441
    @maxmilly2441 Před 4 lety +9

    Jones has been fighting since he was in early 20’s in the UFC, Reyes is a newborn to the UFC with 13 fights under him. Jones has alot of wear and tear on his body , 10 years worth, this is why jones and Reyes are like two years apart in age and Reyes looks way more fresher and explosive like he is the younger fighter no wear and tear baggage, and why dana white states Reyes, will be the future of the light heavyweight division. Jones may not be old but his body probably feels 45yrs old. Not saying jones is gonna lose anytime soon cuz he is pretty good at rematches, but these next couple years of his career are gonna rough on him physically.

    • @Alex-sm6pv
      @Alex-sm6pv Před 4 lety

      You dont know what you are talking about son. Jones has extremly low toll on his body, due to the amounts of damages he has suffered through the years. Sport is evolving, and Dom is among the best peers of the new era.

    • @maxmilly2441
      @maxmilly2441 Před 4 lety +5

      Don’t believe that to be true sir and your entitled-to your opinion , i think jones has more wear and tear then you think. Hence why he doesn’t fight same way as he used to, his game has totally changed and now he is more calculated in the way he fights to not only win, but to maintain longevity. In 2021 if he fights Israel you’ll see what i mean, jones will fight a mayweather type of fight it wont be pretty or super exciting but he will get the job done as jones does in most fights, at this point jones is trying to win in the most efficient and calculated way possible ,he doesn’t care about showboating or knocking guys out, just dominating them on a skill and technical basis. Jon got away with a win that could of went either in mosts eyes ,but unfortunately for Reyes, jon is so good at rematches that if they fought again I think jones would shut him down. The sport is evolving and Reyes and many others are very talented fighters but if you think doesn’t have wear and tear after like 12years of fighting your crazy don’t care how low or high it is, he’s a human being just like the rest of us, these guys are fresh new talent coming into the ufc with less baggage.

    • @MuhammadLuqman-yu1tl
      @MuhammadLuqman-yu1tl Před 4 lety

      I totally agree with you sir 'jone look like 45 year so thats why i dc ^Daniel cormier is the greatest mma fighter of all time because he almost beat jone in first fight in age of 34 year and jone age 28 i don't think in age of 34 jone he beat 28 year old young who look like jone his hight reach like and dc Daniel cormier become twice champion :

  • @justinnardine8564
    @justinnardine8564 Před 4 lety

    The “knockdown” was like Dicky Ward vs Sugar Ray

  • @CHARLIEGAMER55
    @CHARLIEGAMER55 Před 4 lety

    Yes, I agree. Uncle Chael.

  • @3042andres
    @3042andres Před 4 lety +15

    Chapel has to be the best person to bring to an escape room.

  • @cozytoes2091
    @cozytoes2091 Před 4 lety +6

    Bro I think Dom won the 4th too. He landed heavy and hurt Jon early and wouldn’t be held down. There was zero damage as a result of the takedowns Jon needed them to survive

    • @likylake9503
      @likylake9503 Před 4 lety +1

      Trip Pez the 4th wasn’t close. Jones clear

    • @aydin7266
      @aydin7266 Před 4 lety +1

      Lol the takedowns drained the fuck out of Reyes and that’s why he was done at the end of round 5. Jones won it, if the fight continued for a round more jones would prob ko him

    • @atillacnar5785
      @atillacnar5785 Před 4 lety +5

      @@likylake9503 open the fight and watch the 4th dom rocked and hurt jon. Not even a close fight. Jons'takedown' was a laugh stock

    • @Montoya1991
      @Montoya1991 Před 4 lety +3

      And Jones LITERALLY turned his back and sprinted accros the ring to get away from Reyes in the early 4th round 😂

    • @Montoya1991
      @Montoya1991 Před 4 lety +1

      @M takedowns yes but Jones didn't do anything with the takedowns, Reyes got up with in a second and Jon couldn't do anything about it or do anything to Reyes.

  • @willwill7736
    @willwill7736 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Sonna for not dragging him thru the mud

  • @kendraanton6064
    @kendraanton6064 Před 4 lety

    By definition if your opponent touches u and u fall ... "slip" it's a knockdown. Chael getting crazy lately.

  • @American-BadAss732
    @American-BadAss732 Před 4 lety +11

    Cant win a championship fight as the challenger by coasting the last 2 rounds nomatter how far ahead on points you think you are...

    • @zziou9
      @zziou9 Před 4 lety

      Jeremy Stillwell You must of never watched a Floyd fight....I am going to start by asking you was he on his bicycle against Marquez; don’t worry you get 50 chances...

    • @whyishow
      @whyishow Před 4 lety

      Ridiculous thing a casual would say.

    • @coyotestarrk9428
      @coyotestarrk9428 Před 4 lety

      That is the stupidest thing I've heard an MMA fan say if you win the first three rounds and lose the last two then you win plain and simple

    • @American-BadAss732
      @American-BadAss732 Před 4 lety

      @@coyotestarrk9428 well I guess that's your opinion but from my point of view, the winner of a FIGHT is the one winning at the end not the beginning...

    • @coyotestarrk9428
      @coyotestarrk9428 Před 4 lety

      @@American-BadAss732 that's a fact, that is how the fights are scored, if you dominate 4 rounds and lose the 5th hard how is that loss overall for you? This ain't prison rules