@@jonanderirureta8331 yeh same as branded fusion players and swordsoul wish there was a button to just have their board up so I don’t have to watch the same thing every duel
I feel like Eldlich and Subterrors have the same fate. Both are really cool archetype, but the way most people play it with floodgates gives it a very bad rep
@@blastmole299 no, I'm saying 90% of viable decks do so when a deck comes out to stop that people complain and I'm like...I don't even play anymore but get good lol
@@kauanjos3199 Well Subterror behemoths are really slow and you only turtling most of the time so that's fair. I just love trolling people who don't read and don't memorize which one I flipped
@@findout2655 yes but ghostrick can still send them back to the extra deck so yeah unless you have more then 2 links in the field with higher attack then most ghost trick they can still do some stupid long games
Are you moaning about that? Those are the best games! Not these boring 90 second duels nowadays, but a 45 minute game would be hella boring if it was some terrible 12 chain combo every turn with all these new toxic cards over the years
I promise you eldlich with zero floodgates but a bunch of good traps is just as annoying if not more, I play a build that focuses on trap trick and traps like ice dragon's prison and dogmatika punishment... these traps can solo win me the game by themselves if well timed but once I start facing branded/swordsoul every game I do add skill drains to the deck
subterror is the most agonizing for the player, and the opponent. Just how many confirmation will subterror get in 1 turn? Do you want to activate? do you want to activate?........ And the opponent is just sitting there waiting for ur godam turn. And the 16 poke
Subterror without floodgates is very fun though. Going into the big subterror monsters and using flip effects not to search but to get rid of enemy cards. Maybe even use the subterror link monster to have an alternative search. It's mostly just guru and floodgate spam that makes it boring and toxic.
Playing normal subterror is super fun and it's one of my fave archetypes, it makes me sad that it gets such a bad rep because of people being toxic with floodgates
Have you tried Fossil with Megaliths? Weathering Soldier and Fossil Knight trigger if they're tributed for a ritual summon, and the constant flooding of rock monsters into the grave and Bethor popping 1~5 depending on set-up can help get off a big fuse.
I once played against a stun deck who managed to put up skill drain, there can only be one, and rivalry of the warlords *at* *once.* Needless to say it was incredibly annoying.
as someone who adores Subterrors(they carried my broke ass through the EX-Zero Festival) it pains me to see Guru and Fiendess be used in such a disgusting way
Almost any deck that doesn’t FTK, setup more than 1 negate, or put multiple floodgates is usually at least respectable to play against, but there’s a reason I am always tempted to include kaiju cards in all of my decks
For me it's a draw between Floo and Swordsoul. Floo makes sure your turn becomes more like "Our turn". Swordsoul just has so many outs, it doesn't matter what you play they keep finding a way around you. And their monsters do way too much for how easy they're too bring out.
I hate when people go overkill on the game. I get it you like to win, but I don’t care. I just want a fun game. If I have to wait more than 5 minutes for your turn to be over I am done.
I was not expecting subterrors. I have a subterror/dogmatika deck I haven't actually ran against anyone yet bc I didn't think it'd do well vs the meta.
So like in the TCG, it comes down to floodgates and unbreakable boards that, if you didn't draw a specific card to out it, you automatically lose before you even got a turn
ok so for ftk...special mention goes out to pendulum magicians which only needs to add a single copy of a card to their main deck and 4 extra deck spots, arguably 3 as supreme king starving venom is amazing at x1, so when played right their ftk is nibiru immune and they have the ability to simply play like a normal deck and not ftk
I made a eldlich deck because of the ftk I dueled before. I join the dark side and became platinum 2. Stopped because I didn't enjoy it and started dueling my cousin with fun casual anime character decks.
lol I love Subterror as an archetype but Guru control is on the back burner until I can come up with a way to close out games faster. Used to be able to fenagle stuff with Halq but that's obviously not an option anymore.
Numeron players: kaiju or lava golem always in first turn and inminent OTK without disruption (bye bye disruption with kaijus). They are only one fly that you eat because yes.
I personally get super nervous against Time Lords. I have played against 2 Time Lord decks and won once thanks to Blackwing Full Armor Master (I took control of their Time Lord during my turn and just wiped what was left their life points, they summoned tokens. tokens AFTER I played a monster with piercing damage). But now they make me nervous.
I have a huge bias against Sky Striker. I just HATE dealing with that deck. Especially now since Adventure and Destroyer Phoenix Enforcer are in the game.
Honorary mention: Floowanderezee
Ikr
Flowdeeznuts
i mean they die to most if not any disruption
@@bostash8442 but they are slow af and always play the same combo
@@jonanderirureta8331 yeh same as branded fusion players and swordsoul wish there was a button to just have their board up so I don’t have to watch the same thing every duel
Eldlitch, cool art, uncool players lol
I summon jinzo in attack position
Eldlitch the golden lord is a gay homophobic icon and I refuse to elaborate
Eldlich the drip lord
Idk if it makes it any better or worse but I play Eldlich without floodgates
*I replaced it with Shiranui*
@@thedeathhq4101 chad behavior
When 400 seconds turns into 20 minutes
Ong
I feel like Eldlich and Subterrors have the same fate. Both are really cool archetype, but the way most people play it with floodgates gives it a very bad rep
So what you're saying is 95 summons is perfectly balanced gameplay?
@@joshd7621 Does pure Subterrors and Eldlich do like 95 summons?
@@blastmole299 no, I'm saying 90% of viable decks do so when a deck comes out to stop that people complain and I'm like...I don't even play anymore but get good lol
@@joshd7621 That's true, but I only talked about those 2 decks, not the meta in general
@@kauanjos3199 Well Subterror behemoths are really slow and you only turtling most of the time so that's fair.
I just love trolling people who don't read and don't memorize which one I flipped
played a 45 minute game (YES, 45 MINUTES, KONAMI?!?!) against ghostrick last night; lost due to missclick at the end
Always keep the XYZ in the graveyard and attack every other ghostrick that doesn't flip you down for them being flip by a attack
@@hkillerpr link monsters ignore like half the ghostrick monsters, they can't be flipped down
it's the reason I stopped playing ghostricks tbh
@@findout2655 yes but ghostrick can still send them back to the extra deck so yeah unless you have more then 2 links in the field with higher attack then most ghost trick they can still do some stupid long games
fought several of them during synchro/xyz fest, I'm convinced people only play them to piss other people off.
Are you moaning about that? Those are the best games!
Not these boring 90 second duels nowadays, but a 45 minute game would be hella boring if it was some terrible 12 chain combo every turn with all these new toxic cards over the years
The only time I ever run Eldlich is when I'm doing Zombie Fusion shenanigans and want to Super poly for THE MAD *GOLDEN LORD.*
I promise you eldlich with zero floodgates but a bunch of good traps is just as annoying if not more, I play a build that focuses on trap trick and traps like ice dragon's prison and dogmatika punishment... these traps can solo win me the game by themselves if well timed
but once I start facing branded/swordsoul every game I do add skill drains to the deck
floo.
FLOO.
FFFFLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
LET ME PLAY THE GODAMN GAME FLOO
Cry more
flooooooooooo
@@queenbrightwingthe3890 is floo meta in master duel? Lol
Me: *Looks At Firewall Dragon*
*horrifying Flashbacks*
I love playing Subterrors. All it takes is one bad match then I’m ruining everybody else’s day
Chain effect, you ruin my day therefore I will also play subterrors and ruin somebody else’s .
Subterror best deck let's go
subterror is the most agonizing for the player, and the opponent. Just how many confirmation will subterror get in 1 turn? Do you want to activate? do you want to activate?........ And the opponent is just sitting there waiting for ur godam turn. And the 16 poke
Subterror without floodgates is very fun though. Going into the big subterror monsters and using flip effects not to search but to get rid of enemy cards. Maybe even use the subterror link monster to have an alternative search.
It's mostly just guru and floodgate spam that makes it boring and toxic.
Subterror pride !
@@pancakesnakesame here
"I like Eldich" never thought I would actually hear someone say that.
edlich are cool.... the bad is, you can have total of 3 monster card and the rest of the deck you can fill with floodgates....
Playing normal subterror is super fun and it's one of my fave archetypes, it makes me sad that it gets such a bad rep because of people being toxic with floodgates
fossil: "I'm already dead but I'm taking you 10ft further then me"
jurrac: "we may not compete but we're annoying to some"
(my main decks)
Have you tried Fossil with Megaliths? Weathering Soldier and Fossil Knight trigger if they're tributed for a ritual summon, and the constant flooding of rock monsters into the grave and Bethor popping 1~5 depending on set-up can help get off a big fuse.
@@slayinderp7501 I don't have any megaliths, too expensive
@@zexelmonsterousity In paper or MD? Cause in MD all the Megaliths are R or below, only exception is Aratron and you don't really need him.
@@slayinderp7501 derp I thought this was on a duel links short I commented to oof but nah I prefer running block dragon and sometime guardian sphinx
@@zexelmonsterousity lol, fair enough.
Also
Floo: Because we can't maxx C them and they can use Shifter
Numeron: Turn 2 goes brrrrrrr (also sometimes they open Limiter)
Eldlich, true Draco, sky striker, any deck using halq Don, flowondereeze.
I use to have halq in my tech genus deck, without him the deck is far less consistent as if it was consistent in the first place😢
Honorary mentions : altergeist
multifaker to 2 is mistakes kekw
Me playing Drytron
* *wipes sweat off brow* *
Lol same thought here too
I once played against a stun deck who managed to put up skill drain, there can only be one, and rivalry of the warlords *at* *once.* Needless to say it was incredibly annoying.
Drytron before the bans
about 20 minutes of animations to sit through
Didn't expect my subterror deck to be on the list tho.
DDD smiling in the corner
as someone who adores Subterrors(they carried my broke ass through the EX-Zero Festival) it pains me to see Guru and Fiendess be used in such a disgusting way
Floo : hahahha our turn
Man forgot to mention the armed dragon tomahawk deck that ends on infinite negates
that's basically halqdon but tomahawk instead of halq
Almost any deck that doesn’t FTK, setup more than 1 negate, or put multiple floodgates is usually at least respectable to play against, but there’s a reason I am always tempted to include kaiju cards in all of my decks
Not even watched the video yet but if flawondereez isn’t on here imma cry
Cry.
@@SnowiKs 😂😂😂
I adore playing Guru control on paper; it’s fun flipping things up and down
For me it's a draw between Floo and Swordsoul.
Floo makes sure your turn becomes more like "Our turn".
Swordsoul just has so many outs, it doesn't matter what you play they keep finding a way around you. And their monsters do way too much for how easy they're too bring out.
“tHen JuSt dRaW ThE ouT”
Ok, I have to ask, where does that phrase come from?
I hate when people go overkill on the game. I get it you like to win, but I don’t care. I just want a fun game. If I have to wait more than 5 minutes for your turn to be over I am done.
Awesome video man. I love this kind of shorts, I hope you keep doing more things like this. It's great. Your voice is really good for it too
Me as an Eldritch player with straight up beat down/control deck: “The hell is a Gozen Match?”
Based
Surprised that Floo and Altergeists did not make the list. Especially geists, village of spellcaster hurts.
Also the blue eyes chaos max dragon, destiny hero destroyer phornix enfircer a barrone de fleur
At the same time
I see that mermail in the background you can't fool me
Honorable mention.
Crooked cook
I was not expecting subterrors. I have a subterror/dogmatika deck I haven't actually ran against anyone yet bc I didn't think it'd do well vs the meta.
tears: "I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING!"
Love the channel. I'm in 🙌
Was waiting for runic till I seen it was 3 months ago
So like in the TCG, it comes down to floodgates and unbreakable boards that, if you didn't draw a specific card to out it, you automatically lose before you even got a turn
Wow had no clue Guru was going to be at #1. But kinda glad it is getting so spotlight somewhere lol
I only used that first crystron link monster because I pulled it and used it in my quasar synchro deck
You gotta main deck backrow out in MD lightning storm and Harpie's are staples
I ran into a eldlich deck with my toon deck and i had such a great time banishing his eldlich cards before he could draw skill drain
If I had a dollar for every time I had to put up with Kashtira fuckery....
Honorable mention that’s slept on and I’m ratting my #1 deck out but Scythe combo decks
Honorable mention: Floowandereeze.
YOUR turn? No... _OUR_ turn! 🐦🦅🐧🦤
I would have loved to play eldlich for the link events but once again band instead of the floodgate cards.
i played against those all in one day and since then i didnt open the game its been two weeks now
ok so for ftk...special mention goes out to pendulum magicians which only needs to add a single copy of a card to their main deck and 4 extra deck spots, arguably 3 as supreme king starving venom is amazing at x1, so when played right their ftk is nibiru immune and they have the ability to simply play like a normal deck and not ftk
Me, a Valkyrie player
No need to wait cause imma skip yo turn with mischief of time goddess and send you back to menu screen
I have been screwed over by eldlich combo so much it's annoying
I play mainly subterror not just guru control cause nemesis warriors is a good card to go into for quick kills.
Vishuda is an amazing small world alongside bi'an for blackwings
Honestly halqdon is just to time consuming to fight against so I usually end up surrender because I don’t want to waste that much time
I made a eldlich deck because of the ftk I dueled before. I join the dark side and became platinum 2. Stopped because I didn't enjoy it and started dueling my cousin with fun casual anime character decks.
lol I love Subterror as an archetype but Guru control is on the back burner until I can come up with a way to close out games faster. Used to be able to fenagle stuff with Halq but that's obviously not an option anymore.
Eldlich, Tri-brigade, Swordsoul, Drytron pre banlist, and of course the Flu I mean Floowanderezee
I really hate playing against Altergeists. Its annoying how many traps they have that just keep negating my moves.
Can we get some new Eldlich or Golden Land supports to counter Kashtiera, Tear, and Silver Mommy…?
>summon mommy
he's not wrong
I have two friends who use annoying decks one uses and FTK deck the other one uses and eldlich deck shit is so annoying to deal with
Let’s gooooo my toons are untouched
If I see a Baron la Fleur or whatever and another card that negates as well I forfeit immediately
Also you can still play adventure tenji with tomahawk, it's just less consistent.
Ftk and Shooting Majestic Star Dragon are the most annoying deck bc they took forever to do their combo 😒
Numeron players: kaiju or lava golem always in first turn and inminent OTK without disruption (bye bye disruption with kaijus).
They are only one fly that you eat because yes.
"I love not being able to play the game"
Thats literally every fucking duel where you dont have a handtrap or evenly matched when going second.
Nah 1-2 disrupts is totally different from huge floodgates.
That deck that kill you in one turn no matter what with the utopia
bro istg everytime i play against ftk i NEVER have a handtrap to stop it
Negates, floodgates, and all other crap have gotten out of control
I'm old enough to remember when Yu-Gi-Oh was fun, now there's an aggressive amount of sweaty players.
That was always the case. You just aren't a kid anymore.
You forgot that lvl 5 synchro monster that negates spells for sending 2 cards from the top of the deck to the graveyard, imagine other negaters
isolde is my queen, my heroics wouldnt be the same without that amazing link 2
Can we please talk about that utopia combo where it basically one shots u on first turn
when i finally got in platinum all i verses were sword soul decks a lot of the time they had griffin rider 😪
As long as I’m not paired against floodgates or long combos, I’m completely chill.
Just yesterday i was playing against someone using playing swordsoul
Halqdon tenji would not be an issue if it didn't search an omni negate counter trap. Like 2 omni negate monsters are still very managable.
NOW WE HAVE FLOWANDEREEZE WITH IMMORTAL RHONGO DECK LOL
You forgot Destiny Hero
I crafted Prohibition SPECIFICALLY because of those damn cards
Where six samurai there turn never ends
This is why i cyber dragon ftk, i either win in a minute or just loose no need to waste any time
I'd like to add Marincess to this list.
might as well put eldlitch in the stun category with inspector boarder and replace it with decks like numeron and floo
My boy Eldlich got such a bad rep from floodgates, but he's very tolerable when in a standard zombie deck, like Skull Servants.
Unpopular hated deck:
Live twin
Fr though. I love negating one card and I win the duel
Oooh happy to hear bloom diva is not in the list🙏🏻😔
And now it's Floo with their newest going 2nd, 4 mat Rhongo
Honorable honorable mention: flunder, branded, stunlich
i quit the game when ppl started summoning 25 monsters in a single turn. I'm to old to keep up
I personally get super nervous against Time Lords. I have played against 2 Time Lord decks and won once thanks to Blackwing Full Armor Master (I took control of their Time Lord during my turn and just wiped what was left their life points, they summoned tokens. tokens AFTER I played a monster with piercing damage). But now they make me nervous.
The one I hate the most is The Black Rose Dragon deck, it's so toxic
Try using subterror archtype with the Prediction Princess Tarotrei ritual monster if you want to see some real terror
Slowly puts true draco back in pocket
What about the crooked cook combo that makes you virtually invincible?
I have a huge bias against Sky Striker. I just HATE dealing with that deck. Especially now since Adventure and Destroyer Phoenix Enforcer are in the game.
Me playing red eyes and going against all of these