TOYOTA Auris Hybrid - How to drive a Hybrid
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In this video I show a few tips on Eco driving of hybrid car. Few small driving style changes are bringing fuel savings and more comfortable ride for your passengers. some tips can be used also while driving other cars, not neccesary hybrid, can be petrol, diesel or electric only. But hybrid as Auris is with its performance requires some attention to bring consumption bellow 4 litres. Most people report arroun 5 litres, but 30% reduction is possible in real life traffic.
Don't use the B mode. If on speed of about 60 or 70 kilometres/hour just lift the Gas pedal and push again gently the gas pedal down( lift and coast) Avoid starting the petrol engine, so watch your power meter.
If you need to stop lift the Gas pedal, to start power regeneration. To fully stop push gentle on the brakes to optimize the regeneration. Avoid pussing to hard because then you use normal the brake pads.
Nice tutorial and good summarizing the eco-driving mode (most of the tipps also work with "normal" engines)
A few more things to mention:
- As far as I know, the charging effect will also be enhanced, when you gently push the brakes. So no need to go into B-Mode. This is only for mountains.
- Instead of using N, you can push the gas throttle so that the power indicator is right between charge and ECO. This is equal to neutral and lets your car glide.
- When driving at higher speed, the electric motor is still supporting the combustion engine. So you will still have Hybrid mode, but not as effective as in lower speeds.
- Constant speed is the key issue. But there is a discussion whether you should use a short slightly powerful acceleration to the desired speed or if you should speed up very gently.
Thank you for the comment. Indeed I was not reading manuals very carefully. But the car itself teaches you to drive more economically and at the same time you are no slower, only you drive much more comfortable for the passengers, with less accellerations and breaking when not neccesary
should always get up to speed at a reasonable rate on the motorway, it states it in the highway code. doing it too slowly can cause a hazard to faster traffic behind you..
This is amazing, Thank you so much
Some of these tips are really not good. B is not for recharging, that's to use the engine braking, preferrably in hill areas.
Never use the Neutral stand, this will turn off your hybrid system and there will be no recharging. Better to lift and coast in D. Read your manual and you should know these things.
It's a tribute to the car that even with these half-true 'tricks' you get such good consumption.
+WM Thanks for the comment. In fact I was adviced for Neutral by car journalists an it works, even more with normal cars. I can do even better if really driving slow like some eco freaks do, even bellow 3 litres, but I wanted to show more real life conditions.
In fact I think that with higher battery capacity and more electric motor power the results could be even better, for sure for people without feeling for the car driving.
Thanks for your comment
if you have an accident going downhill in the UK with the gearbox in neutral, you can be charged with not being in control of your vehicle.....you should never use neutral while the car is in motion... and neutral stops the battery recharging naturally(engine braking) or via engine if battery is low.... The battery will never run completely flat as engine will keep the battery charged to a minimum leve, i often find after a motorway journey i will have more charge in the battery than when i joined the motorway, as battery is not used much, but it continues to charge as you decelerate....
i drive a truck for the living, its a volvo with i see.
when i go up on a hill full power 75% on hill it will go in N all the way down what this means with hybrids, there will be no emission. no charging ofcource but more bennefit for the fuel emission
Not really... in petrol/ diesel cars, the fuel injectors stops putting fuel into the cylinders when the car is decelerating...but it needs to be in gear to do that... When in neutral, it continues to put fuel in... It'll tell you about this in the vehicle user manual...
And with my hybrid the engine switches off going downhill anyway
Hi PrintCloud and all viewers. Can I beg to differ on a couple of points? In the UK, although it is not illegal to coast, should you subsequently be involved in an accident and the Police think that coasting may have been a contributing factor (not in full control of vehicle) then they would take this as an offense. Also, the Auris would not harvest kinetic energy whilst in neutral. It uses the kinetic energy of the car to generate electrical energy which is then stored in the traction battery. Lastly, “B” mode does not generate more charge for the traction battery - it is used to give additional engine braking to save on overheating and wear on the service (wheel friction) brakes when descending down a long hill.
All the other tips and tricks you give are useful in gaining the maximum mpg out of Auris and are good driving practices for all using the roads.
Very intuitive video. I have a 2012 Toyota Auris Hybrid, and I easily get 68 to 88 mpg UK. On the motorway, the mpg drops a little to about 67 to 74 mpg. I never use neutral, unless I'm going through an automated car wash! At traffic lights I always leave the car in Park, because it puts more power into the battery, thus reducing running costs. Overall a fantastic car town, if you drive it in the right way. I drive about 100 to 120 miles per week. I get over 500 miles per fill-up, and it costs around €48 to 58 per month. So much cheaper to run than an average petrol or diesel car. I may think of getting a plug-in Hybrid of some kind as my next car.
Hello, great video. i have auris hibrid too. (2015 version) i am driving a bit different. I try to reach the decided speed as short as i can. (80% acceleration, in red, power area) I using a lot the cruise mod too. Never use neutral, and b quite rarelly, but gentle breaking instead of. My consuption is around 5 liter, in cold condition 0 or -5 with wintertyre. so i am quite happy!
+ati3x I found that starting with electric only is helping, have a good driver, I sm looking for something fully electric in the future
Magnifique AURIS a venir.
Good video!
My experience with my auris hsd is that the outdoor temperature play the biggest part in the fuel consumption.
My commute to work -
Below 5 degrees ~ 5.0L/100km
Above 10 degrees ~ 3.7L/100km
+Patrik Magnusson thank you for the comment, you are right, in cold weather petrol engine runs much more than in warm
Hi, I noticed that as well - however, my experience in cold weather is that you will get to EV mode (petrol engine off) much faster when you switch off fans.
Apparently petrol engine often runs just to generate heat needed to warm up car interior...
Same here, uses slightly more fuel during the winter, but that goes for all cars running on petrol..
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8:11 I think you meant cruise control instead of auto pilot, but yeah, got your point ;)
my best consumption is 3.61 l/100 km at the pump, that means i drove 1000 km on a full tank (40 liters) without getting the low fuel light. I already have 5 tanks of fuel with a consumption below 3.8 l/100 km. Only in ECO mode, without disturbing others.
you don't have to be slow, just try your best to load the battery while driving at 60-70 km/h where you keep the needle in the middle of the lower eco section (instant consumption 3-4 l/100km and slowly charging the battery). And always use the battery between 40 and 80%.
you are right and doing really well, the car in fact helps you to learn how to drive eco
Only in eco mode? I have heard if you have to speed up to 110km/h it is better to turn off ECO for a while? Whats your thoughts on this?
my eco indicator doesnt shiw and the car inducates 4wd throughout.what is the problem with this 2013 hybrid car???
very good video, I wish that many people even with non hybrid cars will follow these simple rules. its not just about to safe money its about to care of our environment and mother earth. thank you
Thank you for the comment. Indeed following these rules you not only save on emissions and fuel, but also driver safet and smoother, with less stress and you are not slower-
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This is a very good instruction video of our best neighbor in the east. One thing you did not mention was the tire presure. On my Auris TS 17 inch tires how much pressure is best for super econimic driving? Currently it is 2.8 bar but I feel there is room up to 3.2 ?
If you have good roads you may try 3.2, but already above 2.5 the comfort is not that fine anymore
ECO Mode is only for heavy traffic. Driving around normally with it on increases fuel consumption.
Thank you for the feedback, I made few mistakes as I used cars only for about 14 days and did not read manuals, but the consumption result was good, so I made a video on that.
When you put the shift in B for more breaking the motor on downhill, do also turn on the breaking-lights???
I suppose I was not fully correct regarding the B mode, and I suppose no breaking lights were on
I think not, it is more like putting to low gear, npt real breaking, bit to be honest I did not check
Hello there!
Thank you very much for the useful video! I'm not very familiar with the hybrid cars and honestly wasn't really interested in them until recently. I have fully committed myself to EVs, and began to think about converting retro (and not so old) ICE cars.
However after watching your video and a few others I began to think it makes sense to include in this group for conversion hybrid cars too. They are after all half electric to put it this way. For example Toyota/Lexus have some models which have powerful enough electric motors to move the car on electricity only, in this case is it possible to remove the ICE from the car and use it as electric only? Of Course battery capacity has to be increased and few other changes to be done.
My question is does it make sense for this conversion and if it does, could you please point which models are the best candidates?
Regards,
Thanks!
Thank you for your kind comment but I need to be honest and say I do not review cars. I had few hybrids on my channel, but I am not up to date with the latest models. According to my experience from the efficiency and reliability I would consider Toyota or Honda, as they are on the market for a long time. Personally I like the new Lexus :-)
Dude, it is a good advice but B is for Engine Braking = Total energy lost, your EV battery is not charging. So, keep it in D all the time so you are not accidentally just brake in N or B that will have no benefit on re-generating braking. 3rd Gen Prius Transmission in Auris is very smooth, reliable, and do not brake that much when the gas pedal is released like in Gen 2 Prius. 60MPG or 4L/100 Km is easily achievable if you cruise below 120Kmh or 70mph behind a big bus or truck at about 10m distance. Without any car in front of you, Auris only can get 4.6L/100 Km at 120 Kmh .
what country where busses and tucks going 120kmh !??!?!?!
@@044044 Visit south part of USA (Florida, Texas, etc.) Most Truck go at 60-65MPH but often some of them go at 70mph or close to 120Km/h, especially buses. I drove Prius there which has the exact same engine and transmission as Auris and Corolla.
Thnaks for info video how is long time consumption youre car , thanks :)
+Jan Tichy it is bellow 5 litres, for city it is really effective, for highway it is loud and thirsty
Not mine 1.8 like a magic carpet and mixed riving of around 60 MPG and zero road tax
if you're wanting to jump to the "next"level LPG your hybrid, run on petrol/lpg to charge it then click over to EV to run on fresh air. your MPG hits 90 mpg when you work it out.
You got the B shift completely wrong! It is not for electricity regeneration! It is for braking with the petrol engine. It only generates electricity because engine spin is spinning generator as well which in turn generates some electricity, but you still mostly brake with petrol engine's internal resistance.
in D shift, when you release gas pedal, no braking is applied whatsoever (same as neutral shift for manual gearbox), but with B shift, when you release gas pedal, petrol engine is still connected and is slowing the car down (same as when in a gear on manual gearbox)
Normally B shift should be used only when battery is already full, and you are going on a long downhill, when applying brakes does not regenerate electricity anymore but would apply brake pads instead. So instead of using brake pads, you use petrol engine for slowing.
Tnx for your comment. I got the car for 2 weeks as an award for winning hybrid drive competition and when I was making a video, I did not know that - I did not read the manuals unfortunately.
Its regerating power regen breaking.
so if u get more energy with B and breaking how all pro drivers by shifts ... coz its rly save ur brakes on variators too if u go on tip tronic.. so why its WRONG ?!??!?! its how like pro style ... if its really breaking by engine !!!
Hvor er det dog trist at der ikke bliver talt Dansk på nogle af de gode film der bliver vist jeg har købt en Auris Hybrid fra 2013 men hvor ville jeg gerne have dansk sprog på de film der bliver vist.
Can a battery hybrid car get a CNG kit installed in .can CNG in a hybrid powered car work ???..... Like in that car u was driving
Hi, I am not sure about that, maybe a question for Toyota dealership, somebody should probably know
3.3 L/100 Km at 90Km/h about 10 m behind big truck or bus at flat surface. Without any car in front of me at 90Km/h, it drops to 3.8L/100 Km. At 120 Km/h without any car in front of me, 4.5 L/100 Km observed.
This car teaches you to drive unstressed and fuel efficient. And it is not boring, as you play with those tachos :-)
@@PrintCloud but B means Engine breaking just like non-hybrid car. The recharging process is cut a lot with B because the energy is not sent 100% anymore to the inverter+battery. It is in Toyota manual inside glovebox. Yes, this Auris is more fun than corolla USA 2013 because it inherited Lexus CT platform with rear independence suspension. So far, no known problems with 3 rd gen drivetrains. Super reliable and as agile as midclass Golf without pretending as sport cars like Focus or Mazda 3. Overall, it is best in the class especially if it is already 6-7 y old with 150k km. The Auris battery is projected to last at least 15 years, longer than 2nd gen Prius because better management system although with same cells. It has 10 years warranty in most countries for the battery. The transmission is revised alot from 2nd gen. No more chain and susceptible needle bearing like 2nd gen prius although 2nd gen still easily pass 700K Km if driven normally, not like reckless Taxi drivers. But 2nd gen battery only last about 12 years in hot weather but longer in colder and mild like England. 2020 Corolla have 15 years warranty in UK and Ireland but only 10 y in mainland Europe.
Hi,
I'm agree with the driving style tip, but also there are 2 more important points.
-The orography: is very very important... Is not the same a flat path than a climbing path. Going down u can't get it back all the energy u comsumed to climb up, then the consume will be higher.
-The weather: is also a great influence... in winter with colder weather, the consumption may grows up to 0.5 l, because the ICE it cools faster, and it will turn on many times to preserve the temp. In other way, you can use ecoflaps, but as is not an original extra.
Greetings
I agree - that is why the most effective is in city drive, when breaking is charging the battery. I wish the electric part would be stronger with more capacity, this way the savings could be bigger, but also maybe the price of the car would increase.
Does the auris come with a maintenance reminder ?
Hi, I was not driving it long enough to know it, I got it for 2 months.
This video should be titled "How to drive economically" 9 plus minutes to say drive at a constant speed!!!! Thanks!!!
BeLLow?
Are you sure B (engine brake) charges the battery ?
It should, see some other comments bellow, as I could be wrong here
It does charge battery, look at the screen in b mode without acceleration.
How do you engage DRS ?
+TheTruth76 DRS?
Yeah, I would most definitely not use B when slowing the car. Unless I'd live up a mountain and the battery would be already full. B mode is braking with petrol engine running and that means less charge for the battery. I also disagree with the usage of N neutral, that's not how the car is meant to be driven. If you are in huge traffic just put on the park mode and/or handbrake. Other than that the tips were good
I hope B= brake mode, not break mode...
+Giuseppe Faraci 👍
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Please read the manual next time. B is not for eco driving, and using N while driving is a bad idea. D is recommended for eco driving.
+Simon Meredith tnx for comment, I dod not read manuals, btw using N is not so bad idea also in petrol/diesel cars
@@PrintCloud N does not charge the Hybrid Batteries
Agree with most but not all. I've done Uber for 6 months and I've pretty much mastered my Toyota Auris 2012 hatcback hybrid 1.8. The best way is to always start off with enough accelration where it uses electric only, obviously up hills it'll need more power and electric will be too slow, the petrol kicks in. I wish the car would go back into electric when the accelration is minimum but it only stops using fuel when you let go of the gas and hit it again but just enough so you don't go above the second line before the power one. Any moment you go above the second line, petrol kicks in. A lot of people also drive slowly up hill or when picking up speed above hill or to get it to eventually be a consistent 40-60 depending on the road. They don't drive that fast and it's best to give enough power once the car has picked up speed around 40mph then ease off and let the car pick it up slowly towards 60 than slowly starting from the beginning, takes time and slowly uses more. B is for braking down hill, yes battery does charge but it's for slowing/breaking down hill. When going down hill, always leave it in D, not netural. The car charges the battery when braking and when rolling. Rolling down hill, let it roll as fast as you can, let your foot rest and the car goes faster and faster, the battery can simply charge and near the end, if you're approaching a speed bump or light, I like to break a little late because a stronger an deadlier break gives it a bigger power boost. I try to do this 70% of the time but the other 30% I drive fast when I want to go home. Do this all the time and your car will save hella fuel! V power fuel won't give you more miles or speed because it's a hyrbrid car as most believe, it only works better for faast performance cars!
Thank you for your detailed comment, indeed eco driving can become interesting
can you manually force EV mode ?
Yes you can, but only at low speed, below 50 km/h
Print Cloud thanks... very disappointing
All this for a 5,1 average?
How much it uses at 130km/h?
How much at 145?
What is an average over 1000km?
If I drive with all this attention with a 2.0 blueHdi i can do the same results.
With a 1,6 diesel even better
I do city with no attention whatsoever and doing 5-5,5
Open road 4,5-4,7
Hihgway at 145 5,4l
Open road with gentle driving 3,7
Hi, average in city driving is easy bellow 4 litres because of regeneration. In traffic jams the motor is not running, which helps to the air quality, much better solution than diesels, but at 145 km/h it is opposite, it is loud and thirsty, so do not buy it for highway.
First of all- you did not use the pulse and glide which is best for toyota hybrids. You need to keep tacho at 0 then car is gliding and not using petrol and battery. Second issue-you reset the consumption after the engine was warm. Try to repeat the test from the cold start.
Tnx for comment. Indeed I had the car for a week and found it interesting to drive and make a video. In cold the petrol engine is running more than expected, my test drive was done in relatively perfect conditions
For the same reason a hybrid car can not be towed with a rope N should NOT be used for coasting unless you’re looking to damage the car.. And B is the hybrid version of engine breaking in a downhill. Look up Engineering Explained on CZcams and he will give you real facts and tips on what to do and NOT to do when driving a car with an E-CVT engine. I would never drive my Auris hybrid the way you do. (I know this video is ”old” and outdated but I write this for others to read so they don’t damage any components in their cars for following your ”tips”)
You are right, I got this car for a few days and made a video, which was edited and uploaded much later, so I did not read the manuals, I just drove based on my feeling. I only disagree that somebody would f""" up the car based on this video.
Print Cloud Yeah, that was more of a figuratively (and slightly exaggerated) choice of word. Mostly due to the fact that if you coast in N in high speed the car can be really damaged. I didn’t intend to insult you and I see that my comment might seem to come like an attack and I apologise for that.
You do not need to use the B for regenerative braking. When you brake gently you always use regen braking, even going downhill. You use B on bumpy road because the regen braking cuts if you brake over a bump. If that happens an orange light flashes in the dashboard and you will feel the car under braking that regen power has been cut off and using the normal pads to brake. In order not to waste energy use B in that case only. Depending on the speed the engine will start but it will not waste a lot of petrol anyway. I suggest you use an app called Torque pro, with an OBD II adapter and install the correct External PIDs for your car. All this data will be show in real time. It will tell you if you are using brake pads or not and the amount of regen too + other useful data. It is a great toy to drive a Hybrid efficiently. Important also not to waste too much energy on battery. Better always accelerate using the engine and use battery to coast. After a cold start try to start the engine for the first time when going downhill rather than uphill, otherwise will use too much battery power and you waste energy, causing the engine to stay on for longer time to recharge the battery. The actual use of the battery is from 40% to 80% and the onboard computer will try to keep the charge between that % in order to save the battery life. The onboard display shows only from 25% to 80% charge, not 0 to 100%
+Reuben Bonnici Big Thanks for your detailed reply👍👍👍
Indeed driving a hybrid is an experience and if you have feeling for the tech you may enjoy, the driving becomes like experiment
"Better always accelerate using the engine and use battery to coast"
Petrol engines are very efficent when coasting but not when accelarating from 0 to coasting speed.... An hybrid is a system where electric engine is helping the petrol one to accelerate more efficient.
So if i drive alot on the high ways there is no reason to buy an hybrid?
Yes, on highway it is like underpowered petrol car
With having an extra weight of electric engine or battery
buenaso el toyota
65 miles per gallon (imperial) at £1.20 a litre? 72 miles per gallon (metric) If I've done the math correctly??
B mode does not charge the battery, it just breaks the car using the ICE.
tnx, I know
Its not how to drive,but ,just push the pedal harder to goes in power mode ,then only is fine ! 😉
haha guess what i got 925 km with 40 liters of petrol on a prius gen 2 last summer...beat that!!
40 liters divided by 9.25 is 4.3l/100km. He already beat that in this video
Gd
Auris MY15 Euro - best mpg 65.7 mpg or 3.58 l/100 km - how? 100% Eco Mode,
always use the battery between 40% and 80%,
always keep the needle at the half of the first eco section (on electricity or gas)
always park your car with 40% battery life
if there's a lot of accelerating and braking involved, use the battery between 80% and 90%.
Thank you for your comment. I am not an owner and some of my info in the video was wrong, but indeed the car can be really eco if you handle it properly
You can't use the B when driving in traffic, the car behind you dosnt see your breaking light and therefore the person behind you can not know when you are breaking or not. This was a bad video.
Tnx for comment, I am aware I did not read manuals, I was just impressed with the car efficiency and decided to make a video, I am not car specialist.
I get like 8L/100km in my hybrid Auris. Just floor it all the time.... I dont have to pay gas anyway
You deffinetly need an hybrid :)
What a waste, for me it was fun getting low gas usage, something to do during the trip
Then why did you get a hybrid in the first place?
absolutely crazy tips, totally incorrect!
Tnx, bellow I already explained that I got car for 2 weeks after some eco drive competition, where my consumption measured was 3.3 liters per 100 km, so it was not bad result and I decided to make a video. You are very welcome to tell me your proposals about eco driving. I admit there are few incorrect things in the video, but not totally.
Why?
This is not very ecological 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't like my Toyota Yaris Hybrid!
Edwin Dieser why not?
Edwin Dieser sell it to me
Sell it in urban areas with above average market prices...
i fell asleep!
Then you were in "Z" mode 🙂
@@nemome5837 lmao
I am already consuming 4 litres per 100 kilometres in eleven years old Škoda Octavia
11 year old diesel is not very clean, also with hybrid we do not know what will happen with batteries over years. But at least hybrid powers off in traffic jams and the air is much better than if old diesels are running.
Such a boring droving. Not much enjoyment.
+Szen Andor this a car forctraffic jams, not for enjoying driving😀
Print Cloud good car for granddad
+Print Cloud : AMEN !
But, on the other hand, eco driving is a fun challenge !