Removu S1 : The Ultimate GoPro Gimbal? - REVIEW

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  • čas přidán 28. 11. 2016
  • Removu S1 is a 3-axis gimbal for GoPro Hero 3, 3+, 4, 5, and Session cameras! The S1 can be mounted anywhere a GoPro can be mounted. Mount it to your body, a bike, a helmet, wherever you can mount a GoPro. The S1 also comes with a detachable hand grip that is equipped with a wireless joystick remote, which will allow you to control your gimbal from a distance.
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Komentáře • 269

  • @blanked3
    @blanked3 Před 7 lety +3

    Love the review, ive been waiting for this gimbal for months, finally it here 😃

  • @MichaelGrubbEvolvedMinistry

    This is the best Gimbal I have seen so far.

  • @RinaReen
    @RinaReen Před 7 lety +2

    Best review! I just bought the Zhiyun Tech Rider M.. Definitely returning it now and buying the Removu S1. Thank you for the review!

  • @MBCITB
    @MBCITB Před 5 lety +3

    The whole time I'm watching this...I keep screaming...."WHAAAAT?!?!?!" whenever they bring up another amazing function that the creators thought of. This is amazing. Every other company out there needs to take a look at this. Everything in the box. No need to buy additional accessories.

  • @jaynewman120
    @jaynewman120 Před 7 lety

    I just received mine after a very long period of development. I am seriously impressed. This thing kicks butt. I too thought the company had gone away and asked for a refund over a year ago. Thankfully they didn't see the email, and I now own the best gimble system out there. I currently own a Feiyu 4GS and the immediate result is that the S1 kicks it's butt.

  • @MoreLocations
    @MoreLocations Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for the detail review.

  • @johnfowlertrailrunning
    @johnfowlertrailrunning Před 7 lety +2

    Very thorough review! Brilliant, thanks!

  • @AuthenTech
    @AuthenTech Před 7 lety +1

    Very thorough, well done man

  • @maddy123sir
    @maddy123sir Před 6 lety

    wish all reviews were this good

  • @hanskim5117
    @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety +23

    This is really great review! Thank you, Ifti.

    • @takeme2urmac
      @takeme2urmac Před 7 lety +2

      Thank you Removu for all your hard work on the S1. The Removu S1 is packed full of features and surprises. You guys thought of everything. :) I can't wait for the Hero5 case. Thanks again :)

    • @futboalimmortalz
      @futboalimmortalz Před 7 lety

      Hello hans, when pre-order customer receive their removu S1?

    • @futboalimmortalz
      @futboalimmortalz Před 7 lety

      Hello hans, i am of the pre-order customer for removu S1. Due to continuous delay in receiving the removu S1, i am requesting for refund through the support@removu.com. Could your company reply to my e-mail as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenient caused.

    • @itsglg339
      @itsglg339 Před 6 lety

      Hans Kim p

  • @stephprime
    @stephprime Před 6 lety

    the person who designed this gimbal deserves an award!!! the features are perfect - i can't believe how awesome it is!!!!!!!

  • @oneworldvideo
    @oneworldvideo Před 7 lety +1

    Outstanding review! Well done!

  • @PeteWoronowski
    @PeteWoronowski Před 7 lety +2

    Excellent review, Thank you!

  • @ralphcossairt1476
    @ralphcossairt1476 Před 7 lety +1

    Great review. As you mentioned, they really put some thought into this one. Unfortunately I bought the Feiyu Tech G4 6 months ago...works fine, but the versatility of this unit would cover all my needs.

  • @capitanshaf5751
    @capitanshaf5751 Před 7 lety

    I'm sold. thank you for helping with my decision

  • @texaslonestarrider
    @texaslonestarrider Před 7 lety +2

    Great Review!

  • @mdoneg
    @mdoneg Před 7 lety +4

    Incredible gimbal! I've been using mine for two weeks and it is awesome. Portable, sturdy and stable.

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      Thanks for good feedback! We are happy to hear that you are satisfied of S1. :)

    • @Military872
      @Military872 Před 7 lety

      How is the gimbal, still ok?

    • @mdoneg
      @mdoneg Před 7 lety +1

      David Tilbury Still think it's great. Been skiing with it all season. Wear it on my helmet. It's a little heavy but the video stabilization more then makes up for that. You could get a chest mount too.

    • @Military872
      @Military872 Před 7 lety

      Thanks for replying, i have been looking at various stabilisers but just couldn't decide which one to get.
      I like that you can wear the as well as hold it.

    • @HennieJHC
      @HennieJHC Před 7 lety

      Where can I order this Gimbal its not available in Australia...

  • @davidvucina732
    @davidvucina732 Před 7 lety +3

    Great video!

  • @RoadTripTravel
    @RoadTripTravel Před 7 lety +2

    I have the Feiyu Tech G5 and am not very happy with it, this gimbal look much better. Thanks for the great review!

    • @joeleklund84
      @joeleklund84 Před 6 lety

      Why arent you happy with your G5? Im thinking of buying one today

  • @isaacwerk2630
    @isaacwerk2630 Před 7 lety +3

    Great video 👍🏼

  • @gabrielroom
    @gabrielroom Před 7 lety +1

    I got mine last mth via Indiegogo for my Hero4. The functions are great and with good finishing. The remote controller feature is unique and I love it! But it comes with 1 battery so I need to purchase the 2-battery pack at the same time. Nonetheless, it is a great product and no lies in the campaign (when I was cheated by other campaigns before!). Good work!

  • @sugengbralink
    @sugengbralink Před 6 lety +1

    Great review! Thanks Bro...

  • @CRUMedia
    @CRUMedia Před 6 lety +1

    I am so impressed by removu, compared tot the cheaper Feiyu tech G5, its a pretty big difference
    I was going to get that, know this video has changed my mind to get the removu!

  • @speedlapseCS2
    @speedlapseCS2 Před 7 lety

    I managed to buy the last one in Stock! Thanks for the review:-) helped Alot

  • @johnhounslow3255
    @johnhounslow3255 Před 7 lety +2

    Cheers, great review...

  • @mondoghulam3050
    @mondoghulam3050 Před 7 lety

    Seriously great review.

  • @uptowndisco2
    @uptowndisco2 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks for this review I was on the point of ordering the Karma grip when I seen your video , changed my mind and placed an order for for the Removu S1 instead , it will be here tomorrow :-) I have other Removu products incl the remote screen you can wear on your wrist , never had any problems with the removu products , hopefully this will be the same quality as the rest .

  • @faizan2449
    @faizan2449 Před 6 lety

    informative and well explained thank you

  • @isidemolition7925
    @isidemolition7925 Před 7 lety

    This looks badass.

  • @utah62
    @utah62 Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks for this review. Looks very good and like you say some advantages over other gimbals. Not sure what the price in Europe in euros will be. How is the delay when turning/twisting the gimbal. I'm used to the old Steadicam JR + Gopro Hero 3+ where no delay is there when you do this. Does it react fast enough to make sudden moves/turns?

  • @EvilJason85
    @EvilJason85 Před 7 lety +1

    I hope they will be aviable in Austria very soon. I want one so badly...

  • @reyleondelaselva1789
    @reyleondelaselva1789 Před 7 lety +4

    Support for the Yi 4k would be awesome!

  • @SefaDrums
    @SefaDrums Před 7 lety

    Wow! Thank you for this review! If im using the Hero 4 with the frame mount, can I also use the lens protector?

  • @takeme2urmac
    @takeme2urmac Před 7 lety +3

    Great review. I am very impressed with the quality and versatility of the S1. It was so worth the wait. Removu really thought of everything and I do believe that the Removu S1 is the "Most Versatile Gimbal in the World." I am waiting for the Hero5 case but it works and looks great on my Hero4 Black. Best thing is, Removu did not skimp out on quality or features. Thank you Removu! :)

  • @willspath8577
    @willspath8577 Před 7 lety +1

    so wish I could afford this bad boy. so sick!! would be awesome for my parkour filming

  • @LookatBowen
    @LookatBowen Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks for the review. It seems to have all the features. Having just been on holiday and used my GoPro on a segway, I am disappointed at the video because of the jerkiness. A gimbal is a must have these days.

    • @learningisgrowing
      @learningisgrowing Před 7 lety +1

      Update due out in 2 weeks, meant to fix 'micro-jitters' and noise issues re hero 5

  • @steinmar2
    @steinmar2 Před 7 lety +1

    I am impressed with your detailed review and the reviewed product! So moch more versittale than the Feisu TechnGimval! Will there be more modes via the updates i would like touse it for mounting it on my motorcycle tAnk and compensate leaning angle of the forward axis but not the two other axis possible!?

  • @Kero_81
    @Kero_81 Před 7 lety

    If i want to mount it on a Chestmount, wich adapters do i nned? It lokks like that the mount of the gimbal is on the front facing side so i have to work with many adapters?!

  • @gusvazquez8507
    @gusvazquez8507 Před 7 lety

    out of all the Gimbals you have reviewed, which would you recommend? I have a Hero4 and in the market for a Gimbal. Can you use an external mic such as the Saramonic? Thanks...great review!

  • @bandofbros8112
    @bandofbros8112 Před 7 lety

    It's rainproof, but will it survive if you fall into the water with say like rafting? Or if you go swimming and it's momentarily submerged?

  • @edlin1758
    @edlin1758 Před 5 lety

    can you control the gopro functions from the gimbal or do i need the gopro remote to switch from video to pictures????

  • @Karel.C
    @Karel.C Před 5 lety

    Is there a possibility to mount an external microphone to the gimbal and a Hero 5? Giving up the GoPro mount for the micophone limits the gimbal being not wearable in combination with a microphone (and dead cat). The Removu mic only works with the Hero 4.

  • @Intraone
    @Intraone Před 7 lety

    Hello is what you could do comparison with karma grip? Indeed according to some users having had the 2, it would seem that the karma has a better stabilization (especially when one runs) sorry for the english im french

  • @technolizard2930
    @technolizard2930 Před 7 lety +2

    Seems well engineered. Pretty impressive feature set. I like that it is water resistant and the camera is mounted with a twist lock. Is it bad that I am concerned it looks UGLY as heck to me, like designed in 1989 ugly? I would need something that has the 360 Pan motor though. I don't like having to turn the handle around to point it at myself.

  • @salaheddinefatih3016
    @salaheddinefatih3016 Před 7 lety

    plz can you tell us if u have found any problems with the removu S1 ????

  • @pica-gear5629
    @pica-gear5629 Před 7 lety +1

    Does it have a 1/4" screw option on the bottom?

  • @utah62
    @utah62 Před 6 lety

    Thanks. This one or the Feiyu FY G4s?

  • @user-sf2tj2lu7u
    @user-sf2tj2lu7u Před 7 lety

    How does this one compare with the feiyu G5 in your opinion? Wanna purchase a gimbal latest. So confused! The gopro Karma seems worse as the tilt issue and battery life....Plz give some suggestion. Nice video btw.

  • @kralfresco1975
    @kralfresco1975 Před 7 lety

    ifti, another amazing review--thank you! I always enjoy your work and appreciate the comprehensive coverage. I know you've answered other gimbal comparison questions already, but I want to touch more on versatility: how do you compare the Zhiyun Crane-M with the S1? Both seem extremely versatile, but the Crane-M can handle mirrorless cameras, smartphones, and the GoPro (all of which I own). Apart from the water resistant build, are there other areas where the S1 prevails over the Crane-M? I'm particularly interested in build quality and ruggedness/durability. Thanks.

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +3

      The Crane-M is a great piece of kit! I guess it comes down to your uses. Both have remote support via a remote and both are smooth in operation.
      Do you need to mount other cameras?
      Do you need the splash proof abilities of the S1?
      Do you need to mount the gimbal to other items etc?
      The S1 is certainly the most versatile (and cheaper) of the two. Although if you want to mount mirrorless cameras then the Crane-M is the obvious choice. Otherwise I'd go with the Removu!

  • @HennieJHC
    @HennieJHC Před 7 lety

    Hi, I update the firmware and now the joystick doesn't charge? Does anybody know how to get hold of Removu?

  • @thequestofodssey
    @thequestofodssey Před 6 lety

    is it possible to attach a rode mic in it while using the gimbal?

  • @hubsonekka
    @hubsonekka Před 3 lety +1

    So if You have other cameras than GoPro You can't use it because of mounting adapter that covers buton on left top of camera :(

  • @LeeHolland370
    @LeeHolland370 Před 7 lety

    And when is this out in the UK? says pre-order on amazon.

  • @Issac_G
    @Issac_G Před 6 lety

    Out of all the wearble gimbles out right now I think this is the one I will get , WG2, EVO SS ...This has to be the winner

  • @TrendsTactician
    @TrendsTactician Před 7 lety

    I want to see how good it is in a car hooked up to a suction cup. Can you do a video on this plz.

  • @wattimena
    @wattimena Před 7 lety +1

    Hi, you did a great review! Did you mention it that it will fit the Hero 4 Black with Bacpac on the back? That will be awesome if that can work!

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      Yes, S1 works with Hero4 with BacPac. :)

  • @DRimple118
    @DRimple118 Před 7 lety

    Seems incredibly promising. Is there a way to manually calibrate if auto fails? Is there customization in the speed of the pan and tilt? Do they have bluetooth compatability with an app such as the new feiyu G5? How do you accomplish firmware updates?

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety

      Theres no app for it just yet, but firmware updates can be applied via the MicroUSB port built into the unit

  • @GoProTrailRiderRC
    @GoProTrailRiderRC Před 7 lety

    Great gimbal, but could this mount on a chest mount or is it just going to face the rider?

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +2

      GoProTrailRider - mount on chest then use the remote to re-angle the camera into the correct direction 😉

  • @crawlinginfilm9683
    @crawlinginfilm9683 Před 4 lety

    Thumb joystick’s hard edges and pips feel uncomfortable to my finger tips and it does not control tilt when in pan-mode (e.g. would be useful when climbing up/down a hill).

  • @delgadosattheirbest3939

    hello Hans can you tell me..Can you have the m1 a1 attached on it

  • @sumyonguy
    @sumyonguy Před 7 lety

    Whats your opinion about first editions? Usually I wait for a second edition for the bugs to worked out...much like the gopro Karma for example.

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +1

      Agree, but the Removu S1 has been in development for quite some time and they seem to have the kinks all worked out. I can see some minor firmware updates here and there, but cant see a version 2 for a while yet.....

  • @freeridetony
    @freeridetony Před 3 lety +1

    Very Nice, I want to buy & use it for my MTB Videos :)

  • @ktmbua
    @ktmbua Před 7 lety +1

    You should test sybrillo

  • @tomtakumi
    @tomtakumi Před 7 lety

    what's a good gimbal for panning time lapse?

  • @NetoVelasco
    @NetoVelasco Před 7 lety

    any suggestions on how to use an external microphone while recording with the removu?

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      You can use REMOVU M1+A1(bluetooth microphone for GoPro) with S1.

  • @kimros6062
    @kimros6062 Před 7 lety

    how about the motor sound issue when gopro5 mounted?

  • @s1gnl697
    @s1gnl697 Před 7 lety +3

    Amazing review, well done and thank you. sub + like

  • @Military872
    @Military872 Před 2 lety +1

    To use the Go Pro 7, do you have to use the added weight, anyone know??

  • @customrd
    @customrd Před 7 lety +5

    can you hear the gimble working when using it and recording the audio on the GOPRO need answer fast want to buy one but dont want the motor noise's

    • @learningisgrowing
      @learningisgrowing Před 7 lety

      Apparently, the new firmware update has improved the noise issues and also micro-jitter issues. Due out in the next 1-2 weeks

    • @679iceman
      @679iceman Před 7 lety +1

      RD Radiators I always turn off my GoPro wifi and that helps a little

    • @rainyvibes5894
      @rainyvibes5894 Před 6 lety

      RD Radiators no the motor is relly light so there is barley no motor noise

  • @StudioZweiSechs
    @StudioZweiSechs Před 7 lety

    great review thanks 👍 can i use the gimball upside down or with the chest gopro mount?

  • @GodlessGlen
    @GodlessGlen Před 7 lety +1

    Wow, very, very nice.

  • @irfanjamil3177
    @irfanjamil3177 Před 7 lety

    I'm looking for a gimbal and i'm kinda liking this one, but i'm wondering if it's compatible with the YI 4K camera

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety

      Removu did have plans to create new harnesses for other action cameras - Im assuming they will be out soon.....

  • @4mykdz
    @4mykdz Před 7 lety

    When will this be available in the U.K.?

  • @MasEko
    @MasEko Před 7 lety +2

    well.. the frame for hero 5 make the usb port not accessible. can't use mic adapter with this gimbal.

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      Hero5 Frame has access to USB port! :)

  • @2kMario
    @2kMario Před 7 lety

    Best gopro gimbal on the planet

  • @howiesk8
    @howiesk8 Před 7 lety

    Great review! Are they out in the UK yet though?

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +1

      Very shortly!! Pre-orders are currently being filled, but I believe they are almost there!

  • @platzangst911
    @platzangst911 Před 7 lety

    There are some micro jitter effects / shaky footage with the S1. Are there any information of a firmware update that solve this problem?

    • @learningisgrowing
      @learningisgrowing Před 7 lety

      Due out in 2 weeks according to their facebook page. Fixes the micro-jitters and noise issue re Hero 5! WIN!!!

  • @DarthVader1033
    @DarthVader1033 Před 7 lety

    Great review Ifti,I do however would like your thoughts about how the Removu S1 stacks up against the other 3 axis Gimbals such as the Feiyu G4,EVO Gimbals EVO GP, or the DJI Osmos which I know the Osmos already has its own camera but is still a 3 axis gimbal..

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +2

      To be fair they all work very similarly. All have great quality, silent, smooth motors and all create pretty much the same end result. Hence we need to consider versatility. I, for one, would rather have a unit I can do more with - mount to different objects, control remotely as well as in the standard handgrip design etc. Nowadays, versatility is key! Yes, its nothing new, but the wireless bluetooth, low power, remote, the build quality, and the overall robustness of the S1 really sets it out from the rest.
      In my opinion of course! ;o)

    • @DarthVader1033
      @DarthVader1033 Před 7 lety

      Thanks Ifti coming from you that is a plus and when I watch all your video reviews on action camera accessories such as this Gimbal or any other Gimbal that I know it will be a awesome product to own and use..I always trust your reviews reason being is when I watch your reviews you include every detail on what people need to know about a product..

  • @lanceg6828
    @lanceg6828 Před 6 lety

    Will this work for my Yi 4K?

  • @abdullahibrahimhabhab
    @abdullahibrahimhabhab Před 4 lety

    Thanks very much. Is the gimbal also waterproof?

    • @marcoavila2426
      @marcoavila2426 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, it said so in the video and manufacturer description.

  • @VNguon87
    @VNguon87 Před 7 lety

    does the s1 charge the gopro? I have the zhiyun and love that it charges camera battery while in use.

    • @michaelhan9308
      @michaelhan9308 Před 7 lety

      Unfortunately, S1 cannot charge the gopro itself :(

  • @rvma88
    @rvma88 Před 7 lety

    Does the Removu block the Hero5 usb port? I would like to connect an external mic with it

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety +1

      No, you can remove the side door on the GoPro and have full access to the USB-C port.

  • @dorde807
    @dorde807 Před 7 lety

    Can also use this for smartphones

  • @LuisArcadioDeJesus
    @LuisArcadioDeJesus Před 7 lety +4

    This makes the LanParte I just purchased --and can't use because it does not have a GoPro Session mount-- a piece of crap.

  • @mcmc-o9w
    @mcmc-o9w Před 7 lety

    Can this gimbal start/stop recording? Or you have to manually press the start stop record on gopro itself?

  • @joeweider9471
    @joeweider9471 Před 5 lety

    can you use this with the gopro 6 black or 7 black?? great review!

    • @Marlow925
      @Marlow925 Před 2 lety

      2 years later, but yes, it works with both, as they have the same size. It does not work with the 8, 9 or 10.

  • @anythingadrenaline4515

    So how could I mount this to my snowmobile? Dirtbike? Atv or any OHV? Please help!

  • @LeonDieBoer
    @LeonDieBoer Před 6 lety

    Does it work with Xiaomi action cams?

  • @MonacoMike
    @MonacoMike Před 7 lety

    I have a friend who has a UoPlay and his only CON is that you still get the up&down motion when walking. I couldn't tell from your video but how well does the Removu work what hand held and walking?

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety

      All gimbals will suffer from this due to the lack of a 4th axis to counteract the up down motion. It's down to a change in waking style. Slightly bending your legs as you walk helps.

    • @utah62
      @utah62 Před 7 lety

      OK, did not know this. Thanks for the tip.

  • @christopherhowell3209
    @christopherhowell3209 Před 4 lety

    What about mounting accessories.i e microphone ect

  • @eeeffert6042
    @eeeffert6042 Před 7 lety

    any chance this works with yi 4k?

  • @MrFreezook
    @MrFreezook Před 7 lety

    this stick only needs 1 more feature.
    To Make it follow The magnetic poles of the earth N-S-E-W.
    That Would make you be able to really forget the tech and use the extender arm as a much longer hiking MErlin Stick or even better a Samurai Stick.

  • @probante
    @probante Před 7 lety

    Hi there, i just purchased my REMOVU S1 and i have unfortunately found out that when in
    use, the gimbal kinda faint (switches off) while the screen stays still on. Also the remote control freezes and the only way to reboot it is to open it, unsolder it and
    solder again. It is unbelievable how unreliable it is... sad to say but my Feiutech G3 never gave me one single problem.(please note that u will read this post in few channels cause i hope someone can give
    me a help).Thanks, probante

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      You can contact support@removu.com to solve your problem.

  • @nickjw6764
    @nickjw6764 Před 7 lety

    Do you know the BEST action camera for filming sport in light under $100?

    • @tonitony3389
      @tonitony3389 Před 7 lety

      NickJW Get the GitUP Git2 it is $93 on Aliexpress just the camera

  • @gogovitch66
    @gogovitch66 Před 7 lety

    Thank you again! ^_^

  • @TheDeterminedFisherman

    Great review! If you don't mind me asking.... Is the Removu S1 supplied with a GoPro Hero 5 frame out of the box or is it sold separately?

    • @iftibashir
      @iftibashir  Před 7 lety

      13djdave13 The Hero 5 Harness is sold separately.

    • @TheDeterminedFisherman
      @TheDeterminedFisherman Před 7 lety

      Thank you for the info!

    • @525sprockets
      @525sprockets Před 7 lety +1

      13djdave13 right now on their website it said they are giving you the GoPro Hero 5 housing. as promotion I just ordered it on Friday not receiving it until mid March.

    • @TheDeterminedFisherman
      @TheDeterminedFisherman Před 7 lety

      That sounds like a great deal!

  • @skbazad3366
    @skbazad3366 Před 7 lety +1

    Welcome with thanks it's superior fantastic

  • @willinsley2457
    @willinsley2457 Před 7 lety

    Could you put that on a phantom 2 and still have a fpv system

  • @handymanponlok9883
    @handymanponlok9883 Před 7 lety

    Hello Iftibshir! I got hero 5 black, and this guys come with hero 5 frame mount or not?

    • @hanskim5117
      @hanskim5117 Před 7 lety

      Yes, Hero5 Frame is already available in the market. :)

  • @LeeHolland370
    @LeeHolland370 Před 7 lety

    This looks great! Im stuck on what gimbal i want though, need one preferable that will hold a go pro hero 4 with a protective case and rain proof
    Help please.

    • @gusvazquez8507
      @gusvazquez8507 Před 7 lety +1

      Lee Holland I'm on the same boat as you. Can't decide what to go with, and I've watched reviews on several Gimbals. Evo gp Pro is the leading candidate in terms of performance and durability, but not as versatile as Removu...

    • @GrandMasterLynx
      @GrandMasterLynx Před 7 lety +1

      Lee Holland I know your comment is a month old or so but to me I will be getting this the reason for me is the rain proof I live in Florida and its rains a lot and randomly thru out the day so this works great for me now I just gotta buy it lol sad thing it only lasts 10 mins in the rain till you dry it off