It's more like, at a certain age your children's friend group raises them into adulthood. Parents don't even comprehend how much time they actually have to influence. 100% as a baby. 60% (maybe) as a toddler. 20% during school yrs. By design. The mistake parents make is emphasizing compliance and staying out of trouble. Instead of understanding reasoning and navigating through trouble.
What a child becomes is a direct reflection of how they were raised. You can’t take credit when a child becomes a great person and then deflect when they become a monster. 3:03
That’s not true cuz kids are still minors in highschool and idc how good u raise them once there able to be outside by themselves they make their own decisions and there’s nun the parents can do
Even when they grown . You literally train yo kid . You missed a step if they fuck up, I’d feel responsible. I didn’t listen to my parent because nothing happened if i didn’t , she could have made me if she did it right
Nahh bro, after a certain age, you are no longer responsible for the actions of your kids. At 18+, they should morally know what's right and what's wrong
“Life is a test and your kids are your final report card.” Look at all the powerful families the Kenedy’s, Walton’s , Rothchilds all the kids played their position to keep the legacy alive.
If it's a no, no need for childhood trauma, mental health, blaming everything on slavery, etc, etc! If we're going to talk about it, let's talk about it, not dance around it!
@BigChrisENT did you really just say that? All you can do is do your best and let the chips fall where they may. You do your very best as a parent and your kids will do the exact opposite.
@@Therock007dmx doing your best does not equal good parenting. Being better than your parents doesn’t make you a good parent. Sure some good parents raise bad kids and some bad parents raise good kids but that’s the minority. Most good kids are raised by good parents and most bad kids are raised by bad parents.
@@BigChrisENT Look what more can a person do if they’ve given their best? If I as a parent have provided the best opportunities and best environment that I could possibly provide and my child goes out and does something stupid that’s on me 🤨 how?
@@Therock007dmxyes that’s on you because ultimately your the parent. Sometimes your best isn’t good enough🤷🏿♂️ it is what it is. The problem is it’s a lot of people having kids who quite frankly shouldn’t be procreating.
I think my grandmother warned me about this all growing up constantly reminding me that im representing her everytime i walk out that door and she wasnt wrong cuz what is the first thjng a mf want to say..... "aint got no home training, or they wasnt raised right"
Accountability. Your families name used to be everything. Children fully understood their conduct reflected on their family. Your place in the community was attached to your family name.
Its lazy and dishonest to say every little part of a child is because of their parents. Human behaviour is way more complicated than that. There's an entire world of influences outside of the home.
Habits parents build with their kids are gonna stay with them forever. Telling them to do good is not raising a kid.,. parents must practice good habits with them
Parents can't watch their kids 24/7. Only so much you can control before kids decide they want to carve out their own path in life positively or negatively.
Egggxactly. This what I be trying to tell mfs when they blame the parents for these reckless ass teenagers. Parents be either at work or sleep when they child causing havoc
The answer is it’s a sliding scale. To act like the moment someone turns 18 they are in that moment going forward 100% responsible and the 18 years before it they weren’t responsible is non sense. A 17 is a minor but they should be held responsible for their actions, and there parents should be as well. A 23year old is an adult but how many times have you asked yourself in life “who raised you?” to the actions of an adult? The accountability the parents should take decreases over time. It never truly goes away Minor is a legal term but to act like there’s a meaningful difference about how you view the actions of a 17 yr old and an 18 year old is non sense. They’re not adults but they’re not dumb children. I has that age not to long ago and I knew exactly what I was doing when I did dumb/bad things.
Kids break the law and are degenerates Parents: that's on them I did my part Kids are amazing and accomplish great things Parents: they wouldn't be where they are without me This is what I hate about society..parents have somehow received that godly treatment...when something bad happens to u it's the devil or you..when something good happens to u it's always God and never u
Of course it is. Because even into adulthood, that child was raised and taught by you. And if after 18 years, your influence is trash, then that means your parenting was lacking. Im 39 amd still reflect on how the choices I make will reflect on my parents.
This pressure from parents to do well is because among the many other reasons, one of the resons is that what you do reflects onto your parents and siblings. There is a responsability on kids to be in right standing with other people if that is what your parents had done. It is the reputation to uphold. In america it has long been forgotten that you being who you want to be comes second, you as a child from a family who raised you and taught you the best qualiteis - those ideals have to be reflected first and then you make room for your own identity. In other countires this is one of the resons children are either able to do this or they fail to live up to this responsability and it is a massive pressure because it is a huge responsability. I think parents in the western world need to know the balance between being yourself and being reflection of your family and its values.
Yes they are a reflection of u under the age of 18. It's up to u as the parent to install certain behaviors as they age. I did alot of crazy shit but that was kinda do to not really having my parents but i had a bit of discipline
“Reflection” is not always a bad as the context in which y’all are using it. “Reflection” could be all my parents did was preach school and life plan, never asked what I really wanted, and that made me rebellious and live wild. Even though you “made a decision” them impressing on you what you didn’t relate too COULD make you worse off in which case that could be a “reflection” on their parenting. I’m a firm believer that we either become our parents or become the opposite. Either or, is a reflection of their patenting.
It’s not 100 percent, but some parents enable their children. Some don’t have boundaries. I have a brother and he literally mimicked my mother and his father in the worst way . She(My mother) says “What can I say he acts just like me.” I on the other hand saw what was wrong and went in the other direction wanting to be better. Nah, sometimes it is the parents. You know how many people say “I’m this or that including religious views because that is what I was taught” I hear it all the time. But everyone is absolutely responsible. You can’t decide to have a child and not hold some blame. But yes, some people choose different paths the parents can’t predict. I did! And it was a non toxic and healthy one.
Parents are responsible for their child's behavior Decisions.... not so much Parents can help guide better decision making but overall bad decisions are learning experiences Who has ever made all the correct decisions as a teen to young adult??
They are making SOOO many excuses!! 😂😂😂 …. There is NOO Fuckin WAYYY my kid could Outsmart me to the point of Fuckin DYLAN ROOF ‼️‼️🤌🏾 .. or many other things! Cuz I interact with children/ Humans in a way that is Thorough enough to help them Feel comfortable enough to express themselves and Clarify their level of understanding.. as well as they Comprehend THEIR responsibility in any given situation
Unless the child does the same thing the parent did, like in Remy Ma's situation. I understand she didn't grow up in the best of circumstances and I feel terrible for her and her son, but this could be an example. It's still a conscious choice that you make. Also, I didn't watch the whole pod just this clip so I'm not sure if they mentioned her situation at all prior since it just happened.
For kids yes, for teens no. If your 10 year old cussin nd shit then its parent. If theyre 16 doing it then nothin the parent could really do that kid gonna act how they wanna act
Even if you have the talk look at yourself as a teen did you listen to your parents no we were wild and free we didn't process consequences we just did ish.
Those are young adults, and we shouldn’t infantilize them and treat them like dumb children. Sure we should protect and help them but they need to understand that they are at the age where the training wheels are coming off. To raise kids into adults you have to slowly treat them like one, otherwise you have adults who think like kids.
@@respectfullyquestioned I mostly agree, however you shouldn’t treat them like such the entire time. Don’t treat a 13 year old like a 17 year old. The way you treat a 17 and 18 year old should be the same because there’s not much of a difference. The only difference is a legal one. As a parent it’s your job to slowly treat your children like adults to make them ready for the adult world. If you treat them like kids up untill the day they turn 18 you’re doing them a disservice. They will not know how to navigate the adult word because they were never given the responsibilities and choices of one.
Dont care… Parents or not.. you know right from wrong… if no parents… then by a certain age You Know What the world has shown you.. Speaking as a Reformed Juvenile Felon… Committed a Crime as a Child, Charged as an adult
I liked before I even watched the video so idk if I will even actually like it and I may have just wasted a like. That’s why you shouldn’t like before you get the experience….kinda like how you shouldn’t pay before….. Nvm lol
This is crazy -I grew up w moms and pops and I’m a black PK family - both parents highly educated PHd’s - I was allowed to have my GF spend the night at my crib in High school and college - of course with her parents approval which was WILD! 😂😂😂
I would say a lot of em do. Some societies kind of sway em into that life. They could find themselves in street situations (fights- getting robbed, ect) That happened to someone I know and he said “that’s never happening again.” Got a gun, got caught with it, went to jail. That happened twice. From then on he now is in beef with who robbbed him and it just didn’t stop. I know you can imagine the picture I’m painting . everything escalated. His dad was taking his guns tryna protect him but in that situation it wasn’t protecting him, unfortunately. I remember telling him like “bro you do know what’s going to happen to you if you get caught again? He was like “ it’s already a wrap for me, either way it go, shit they tryna kill me, and I ain’t just bout to let it happen, fuck it.” He smoked a lot and drank alot and started robbing a lot, and went to jail a lot. After he got kicked out for the guns. They got him, shot him 20 something times. I think if he never got kicked out it would have went differently. When he got kicked out he had no where to be but the streets.
Upbringing matters but after a certain age the parent isn't responsible, and that kid becomes an adult and has to take account for themselves
Egggxactly
Exactly cuz Kids gonna do what they do What they wanna for anyway some people act like they weren’t kids themselves and it shows
It's more like, at a certain age your children's friend group raises them into adulthood.
Parents don't even comprehend how much time they actually have to influence.
100% as a baby.
60% (maybe) as a toddler.
20% during school yrs.
By design.
The mistake parents make is emphasizing compliance and staying out of trouble. Instead of understanding reasoning and navigating through trouble.
Idk if it’s age that should determine. I think the level of maturity matters.which we typically attribute to age.
They aren't responsible but they play the biggest influence part in how their kid got into that position.
What a child becomes is a direct reflection of how they were raised. You can’t take credit when a child becomes a great person and then deflect when they become a monster. 3:03
Exactly......
Disagree. Some children have mental issues that no parent is going to remedy
@@Jrfusion08nah but what they're saying is why do parents of great people get to take credit for that but deflect credit when they end up shitty?
There are children who become great people completely against what their parents taught them.
@@MrScotty2Hotty28 thank you. It’s that simple. 🔥🔥
If you’re child is a minor you should be held accountable for their actions
Yeah, like teaching them the difference between your (something you have) and you're aka you are
Period
That’s not true cuz kids are still minors in highschool and idc how good u raise them once there able to be outside by themselves they make their own decisions and there’s nun the parents can do
Even when they grown . You literally train yo kid . You missed a step if they fuck up, I’d feel responsible. I didn’t listen to my parent because nothing happened if i didn’t , she could have made me if she did it right
Factsss
If you need an answer, maybe you shouldn't be a parent
😂😂🤌🏾🤌🏾
As a father of four, yes I am responsible for their choices. Is it unfair, bro that's parenting.
Nahh bro, after a certain age, you are no longer responsible for the actions of your kids. At 18+, they should morally know what's right and what's wrong
@@sims4610593 lol yeah. It called being an adult. There's a legal age for it, we all agreed lol.
facts
Facts
Factsss
Be a reflection of what you want your children to be. Live the values you want your children to have.
“Life is a test and your kids are your final report card.”
Look at all the powerful families the Kenedy’s, Walton’s , Rothchilds all the kids played their position to keep the legacy alive.
Where is this quote from?
Yea they did by lying cheating and stealing
This convo illuminated the stark difference from being a hands on parent versus a provider. The convo is not thr same
If it's a no, no need for childhood trauma, mental health, blaming everything on slavery, etc, etc! If we're going to talk about it, let's talk about it, not dance around it!
If your kid is under 18 you should be held accountable. If you raise an crappy adult you can still be judged…
@BigChrisENT did you really just say that? All you can do is do your best and let the chips fall where they may. You do your very best as a parent and your kids will do the exact opposite.
@@Therock007dmx doing your best does not equal good parenting. Being better than your parents doesn’t make you a good parent. Sure some good parents raise bad kids and some bad parents raise good kids but that’s the minority. Most good kids are raised by good parents and most bad kids are raised by bad parents.
@@BigChrisENT Look what more can a person do if they’ve given their best? If I as a parent have provided the best opportunities and best environment that I could possibly provide and my child goes out and does something stupid that’s on me 🤨 how?
@@Therock007dmxyes that’s on you because ultimately your the parent. Sometimes your best isn’t good enough🤷🏿♂️ it is what it is. The problem is it’s a lot of people having kids who quite frankly shouldn’t be procreating.
Yes. If that child is your responsibility then the adult parent should be held accountable. Life is not fair.
I think my grandmother warned me about this all growing up constantly reminding me that im representing her everytime i walk out that door and she wasnt wrong cuz what is the first thjng a mf want to say..... "aint got no home training, or they wasnt raised right"
Accountability. Your families name used to be everything. Children fully understood their conduct reflected on their family. Your place in the community was attached to your family name.
Its lazy and dishonest to say every little part of a child is because of their parents. Human behaviour is way more complicated than that. There's an entire world of influences outside of the home.
You always bring something unique to the table, can't get enough!
Habits parents build with their kids are gonna stay with them forever. Telling them to do good is not raising a kid.,. parents must practice good habits with them
I think their failures sometimes are a representation of us.
Yes.
In "context" the answer is obviously "NO!"
Yes
These mice got caught in the cheese trap . . .
Parents can't watch their kids 24/7. Only so much you can control before kids decide they want to carve out their own path in life positively or negatively.
Egggxactly. This what I be trying to tell mfs when they blame the parents for these reckless ass teenagers. Parents be either at work or sleep when they child causing havoc
@@sims4610593then maybe you mfers shouldn’t be having children🤷🏿♂️
Answer is yes.
I’ve been in university since the womb lol hahaha , my mum and dad were always persistent with education
Here in Michigan we had a teen shooter in Oxford and they sent the parents to jail because they gave him the gun.
I want to say yes depending on the age for sure.
Yes. Simple.
Yes the answer is yes
The answer is it’s a sliding scale. To act like the moment someone turns 18 they are in that moment going forward 100% responsible and the 18 years before it they weren’t responsible is non sense. A 17 is a minor but they should be held responsible for their actions, and there parents should be as well. A 23year old is an adult but how many times have you asked yourself in life “who raised you?” to the actions of an adult? The accountability the parents should take decreases over time. It never truly goes away
Minor is a legal term but to act like there’s a meaningful difference about how you view the actions of a 17 yr old and an 18 year old is non sense. They’re not adults but they’re not dumb children. I has that age not to long ago and I knew exactly what I was doing when I did dumb/bad things.
It’s too many variables 🤷🏽♂️
Kids break the law and are degenerates
Parents: that's on them I did my part
Kids are amazing and accomplish great things
Parents: they wouldn't be where they are without me
This is what I hate about society..parents have somehow received that godly treatment...when something bad happens to u it's the devil or you..when something good happens to u it's always God and never u
Of course it is.
Because even into adulthood, that child was raised and taught by you.
And if after 18 years, your influence is trash, then that means your parenting was lacking.
Im 39 amd still reflect on how the choices I make will reflect on my parents.
This pressure from parents to do well is because among the many other reasons, one of the resons is that what you do reflects onto your parents and siblings. There is a responsability on kids to be in right standing with other people if that is what your parents had done. It is the reputation to uphold. In america it has long been forgotten that you being who you want to be comes second, you as a child from a family who raised you and taught you the best qualiteis - those ideals have to be reflected first and then you make room for your own identity.
In other countires this is one of the resons children are either able to do this or they fail to live up to this responsability and it is a massive pressure because it is a huge responsability. I think parents in the western world need to know the balance between being yourself and being reflection of your family and its values.
I had one of them in my wallet from 14 to 16 shit been expired by the time I was ready to use it 😂
They have talked about this topic so many times.
You are responsible, if you are teaching wrong they will do wrong. If you show them right they will show them right.
Yes they are a reflection of u under the age of 18. It's up to u as the parent to install certain behaviors as they age. I did alot of crazy shit but that was kinda do to not really having my parents but i had a bit of discipline
Parents should be held accountable for the things their child do outside the home
I have different conversations with My sons than I do with my daughters and I treat them differently. 🤷♂️ 6:16
“Reflection” is not always a bad as the context in which y’all are using it. “Reflection” could be all my parents did was preach school and life plan, never asked what I really wanted, and that made me rebellious and live wild. Even though you “made a decision” them impressing on you what you didn’t relate too COULD make you worse off in which case that could be a “reflection” on their parenting. I’m a firm believer that we either become our parents or become the opposite. Either or, is a reflection of their patenting.
It’s not 100 percent, but some parents enable their children. Some don’t have boundaries. I have a brother and he literally mimicked my mother and his father in the worst way . She(My mother) says “What can I say he acts just like me.” I on the other hand saw what was wrong and went in the other direction wanting to be better. Nah, sometimes it is the parents. You know how many people say “I’m this or that including religious views because that is what I was taught” I hear it all the time. But everyone is absolutely responsible. You can’t decide to have a child and not hold some blame. But yes, some people choose different paths the parents can’t predict. I did! And it was a non toxic and healthy one.
In society opinion the child is All you until the child is an adult 3:58
Getting schooled from your older sister sounds crazy Parks
This pod is much better w/o Flip
Nah if your child lives under your roof and commits crimes when they should be at school or when they should be inside that’s on you
50/50 at the end of the day some really dont stand a chance bless em
Parents Were Young & Dumb When They Were Our Age Now Parents Letting Their Kids Do Whatever But Morals In The Household Was A Big Factor Back Then
Parents are responsible for their child's behavior
Decisions.... not so much
Parents can help guide better decision making but overall bad decisions are learning experiences
Who has ever made all the correct decisions as a teen to young adult??
After 18… nope
The Ted talk she referenced was absolutely terrible. There were obvious signs that boy was dangerous.
They are making SOOO many excuses!! 😂😂😂 …. There is NOO Fuckin WAYYY my kid could Outsmart me to the point of Fuckin DYLAN ROOF ‼️‼️🤌🏾 .. or many other things! Cuz I interact with children/ Humans in a way that is Thorough enough to help them Feel comfortable enough to express themselves and Clarify their level of understanding.. as well as they Comprehend THEIR responsibility in any given situation
Unless the child does the same thing the parent did, like in Remy Ma's situation. I understand she didn't grow up in the best of circumstances and I feel terrible for her and her son, but this could be an example.
It's still a conscious choice that you make. Also, I didn't watch the whole pod just this clip so I'm not sure if they mentioned her situation at all prior since it just happened.
Why do they all have glasses on
Yall can say it’s not on the parents after a certain age, but the law says parents are on the hook until 18
For kids yes, for teens no. If your 10 year old cussin nd shit then its parent. If theyre 16 doing it then nothin the parent could really do that kid gonna act how they wanna act
Bruh that’s because you not in
Their business - my parents where in my business in my sisters business - and we got caught.
Even if you have the talk look at yourself as a teen did you listen to your parents no we were wild and free we didn't process consequences we just did ish.
Young adult is 16-17 ? Ok those are big ass KIDS
Those are young adults, and we shouldn’t infantilize them and treat them like dumb children. Sure we should protect and help them but they need to understand that they are at the age where the training wheels are coming off.
To raise kids into adults you have to slowly treat them like one, otherwise you have adults who think like kids.
A TEEN is a kid a child ….
@@respectfullyquestioned I mostly agree, however you shouldn’t treat them like such the entire time. Don’t treat a 13 year old like a 17 year old.
The way you treat a 17 and 18 year old should be the same because there’s not much of a difference. The only difference is a legal one. As a parent it’s your job to slowly treat your children like adults to make them ready for the adult world. If you treat them like kids up untill the day they turn 18 you’re doing them a disservice. They will not know how to navigate the adult word because they were never given the responsibilities and choices of one.
If the parents don't know what their kid is doing, its cause they dont want to know
Thats not true at all
Dont care… Parents or not.. you know right from wrong… if no parents… then by a certain age You Know What the world has shown you..
Speaking as a Reformed Juvenile Felon…
Committed a Crime as a Child, Charged as an adult
don’t wait until your kid is a teenager to introduce the conversation about sex
Yall say this but then “the community” turns around and blames the mother who stayed 😂😂😂 man im tired of the double speak
I liked before I even watched the video so idk if I will even actually like it and I may have just wasted a like. That’s why you shouldn’t like before you get the experience….kinda like how you shouldn’t pay before…..
Nvm lol
Sound like yall are just unfit parents. Children having/rasing children is NastyWork
This is crazy -I grew up w moms and pops and I’m a black PK family - both parents highly educated PHd’s - I was allowed to have my GF spend the night at my crib in
High school and college - of course with her parents approval which was WILD! 😂😂😂
Most so called street dudes come from good families
I would say a lot of em do.
Some societies kind of sway em into that life. They could find themselves in street situations (fights- getting robbed, ect)
That happened to someone I know and he said “that’s never happening again.”
Got a gun, got caught with it, went to jail. That happened twice.
From then on he now is in beef with who robbbed him and it just didn’t stop.
I know you can imagine the picture I’m painting . everything escalated.
His dad was taking his guns tryna protect him but in that situation it wasn’t protecting him, unfortunately. I remember telling him like “bro you do know what’s going to happen to you if you get caught again?
He was like “ it’s already a wrap for me, either way it go, shit they tryna kill me, and I ain’t just bout to let it happen, fuck it.”
He smoked a lot and drank alot and started robbing a lot, and went to jail a lot. After he got kicked out for the guns.
They got him, shot him 20 something times. I think if he never got kicked out it would have went differently.
When he got kicked out he had no where to be but the streets.