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2:19 - A JuJu return?
4:00 - How about Tyler Lockett?
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Sup legends! Let me know your thoughts on some of these contractual decisions the Chiefs will need to make in the future. Who are your MUST KEEPS? Lemme know!
Youâre still the goat
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I would love to see Juju come back to KC if itâs a team friendly deal. He knows the offense and Mahomes clearly trusts him.
Creed is an absolute must to extend.
What I'm concerned though are rumors about his knee, which I heard saying that his knee is a mess and it was ultimately why he fell off the table in New England on top of the mess there. Though, I believe it would be spotted in physical.
We love juju over heređ he will replace McKinnon that knows the system.
The chiefs will keep creed Humphrey. I wouldn't though. Not because Creed isn't great, but because an individual center or O lineman doesn't have enough impact on the game when it comes to wins & losses.. its easier to cycle in O-lineman than it is, skill players.
Gotta keep Butker, thatâs for damn sure!!
Nick Bolton is a must keep for sure
Depends on the money involved. If you look at the stats for the games he missed, the defense actually did better with Tranquill in his place.
I donât agree the offensive line is the most important position on this team point blank. We can never allow what happened against the buccaneers to happen again.
Nick Bolton better start learning Chinese if he plays like he did in the playoffs last year
I canât say Iâd be happy about losing him and Willie gay
â@@judyadams8296 Tranquil is expected to move to OLB.
McDuffie, Karlaftis, and Pacheco are must keep material
Pachecos style of running doesnât Bold well for a second contract!
I wouldn't keep Pacheco.
Running backs aren't getting the bag unless Veach bumps his brain on something
@@Just_A_lil_Gizmo I wouldnt pay Pacheco
I agree would love to see Pacheco come back
The CHIEFS need Schuster like a submarine needs a screen door.
Honestly we don't know. Just like last year
If heâs knee got cleared by Chiefs med staff I wouldnât hate it. I donât think itâs crucial he returns or anything but it definitely makes the room better (if heâs healthy).
Bolton is an absolute unit and I hope he goes nowhere
Darn Twitter knuckleheads listen up. In Chiefs Kingdom we dont beat down guys who leave to get that bag, that's why they're in the NFL. But we do appreciate what they did for the Chiefs eternally. Lot of guys lđeft that I hated to lose but never hated the player, just the loss. Berry, Gonzales, Smith, to name a few but they're Chiefs Kingdom forever. Side note, keep Bolton for sufe.
Move this comment to the top!
nothing but love for all kc fans go kc baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What stats often don't show is football IQ - specifically, the ability to get the D into the right sets. Both Tranquill and Bolton are exceptional at setting up and executing whatever Spags calls. đ€we can keep both.
Pecheco he a dawg
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Heâs my favorite player!!! Tough guy!!!â€â€â€â€â€
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Veach is a genius!!! He will figure out is what is best for our team!!! Tough decisions for him but in Veach we trust!!! GO CHIEFS!!! 3 peat time !!!!!
Might as well Tag Bolton đ€·ââïž heâs too smart to let walk⊠heâs Spagâs favorite player in my opinion.
A Juju return !!!! We have to keep Bolton never thought we would have someone close to DJ after he retired.
When Bolton was hurt last year, Tranquill filled in well, but they had Willie Gay...they shoulda kept him.
Gay is the better athlete, there's no denying that.
But Tranquill has a much higher football IQ. He reads keys, knows routes and has instincts WG may never develop. When Drue is in on a tackle or makes a play, it;s because either he followed the defense's scheme and is where he's supposed to be, or he anticipated the play by his instincts.
WG is often out of position or doesn't drop to the proper depth in zone. He relies on his athleticism to get him back INTO the play.
What happens to that approach when he (WG) loses some of that speed?... he becomes nearly useless.
That's why keeping Tranquill was the right choice!
Chiefs can not afford to lose Bolton. Since we drafted him, he has been a leader in the defense, and the defense just keeps getting better. He is a huge part of why our defense is where it is.
Definitely keep BOLTON!!! Love that guy!!!â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž
kc baby since 89
Keep Bolton for sure.
Chiefs have an opportunity to achieve Immortality with a 3 peat
To do something no team in the Modern NFL has ever done
I feel like Andy Kelce and Pat are all about that life
They are all about Legacy and being the Greatest to ever play the game
I say do whatever we have too
Give up whatever we have to give up to get that 3 peat
Achieving Greatness is what Pats all about
Achieving Greatness makes your name echo across Time
They never gave Richie a chance. I donât get it.
He was open a plenty but he was not the 1-3 read, unfortunately...
He was injured half the season. Him and Mahomes must not of been on the same page
he was the best returner for us by a long shot
I kind of see what Richie said being true,I seen Justyn Ross open so many times and pat didn't even pass him the ball,wasn't even looking his way.
Pacheco deserves every penny if he shows his worth this year for sure
Can't pay everyone. Pay Humphrey, and then make a decision as to who is more important between T. Smith and Bolton. I would count T. Smith as more important, but everyone has a budget. My guess is they let Bolton walk if he wants top of market money, keep Smith, and release Thuney. I would be concerned if they let both of their guards go - and Thuney's cap hit without a rework (if it's even possible at this point) makes him budget non-friendly. Pay Butker. He's in his peak, and at least the 2nd best kicker in the NFL right now. I wouldn't trade for either Lockett or JJSS, but if JJSS gets released, keep him on speed dial in case the Rice case gets adjudicated sooner than I think and a suspension comes down. Reid, Brown, Omenihu ... let their '24 play guide that decision.
BOLTON!
I think Bolton comes in around $11-13m a year to stay in KC. He loves KC and he's been in Missouri for a long time now. From what I know of him, he's not going to fight over a couple million if it means staying in KC. If he gets $15m+ from another team, he'll have to consider taking that type of money though.
He strikes me as the guy that is more practical. He can be happy at home and winning in KC or he can chase money and potentially land with a bad team or a bad system. He works in Spags' system so well and Spags has made him who he is in the NFL.
As a k-state fan, I'd love to see Lockett on the Chiefs, but I just don't see it making sense
I really like Bolton. Hope he gets to stay. The Tranquil argument is a solid one though. Idk Nick Bolton is always close to the ball like he has a sixth sense, and he makes a hell of a lot of tackles đ„
We need more folks that are hungry for a ring.
Those are the guys that will take less and give more instead of the opposite
Creed is a no brainer. And really hope we can keep Bolton. He always has a nose for where the ball is.
Always tough 4 years down the road when you hit on all your picks
I wouldnât pay Bolton or Smith that much money. I mean the Chiefs track record in the draft affords them the luxury of moving on. Remember both those positions are usually mid round picks not big money first day picks!
Iâm not mad at giving Bolton a well deserved contract he is the qb of the defense we should keep him at all cost
@@Z_Rodriguez13the offensive line is the most important part of this team. If the tackles arenât good we have to have a great interior.
Bolton is the glue of the defense. No question.
@@boatsanhs9709Who did fine with tranquil running things. He is good but definitely not the top priority to sign
Bolt, pop, butker, creed, Drue main 5 gotta keep
Humphrey is in that top 3 or better, for sure. He needs to work on his shotgun snap, it is constantly low.... I wouldn't worry about paying smith, we have options.... Would love to see the Chiefs keep Bolton and see him and Tranquill play at the same time... they could feed off each other and be quite dangerous...I thought Bolton played well upon his return, even with a hard cast on his wrist...Buit, as you said, if they can't keep Bolton, Tranquill can step in to the MIKE spot with no problem.
McDuffie Karlaftis Pacheco and donât laugh, but Leo chenal is really underrated in my opinion. He has serious future
My must keep is you cole!!! Bro, hustling during this slow time keeping us with content!!! Letsss goooooi.....
Oh I am also in board with the three guys you listed as my top keeps
The hate on bolton outside of chief fans is wild. Dude is a tackling machine.
I want to keep and pay everybody if they win 3 in a row. One of the things I've liked is just how many good dudes we have had lately. Draft picks to Journeymen, we've been lucky to have some great people rock the red and gold. Doesn't matter if they are no longer in K.C., I appreciate everything they did for the Kingdom.
When they asked Spags who the smartest MOST IMPORTANT piece of the defense was, he said without a doubt it's Nick Bolton. He said that he is the Patrick Mahomes of the defense not only bc of his physical talent, but even more so for his mental talent. Spags says he can read an offense and see into the future better than he can a lot of times. He said that 60% of the defenses they run are Nick Bolton's ideas. So they're gonna fight to keep him, I think. Im surprised you didn't see that interview??
Juju is toast, he had knee problems when he was here.
He had knee problems before he even left Pittsburgh. Every week of the 2022 season, I was praying that his knees would be able to hold through the playoffs.
-Creed is a must. He's the best in the League, no brainer.
-Trey, only if its around 10-12mil a year. He's not good in pass pro and he's good not great at run blocking (which we don't do enough of anyway). Its really just about the importance of O-Line play that he's even in the conversation right now, not a great player but quality starter I suppose.
-Bolton really depends on what he wants. If its top of the market then no, but something 15mil avg, I can see it. He's getting better in Pass Protect but his speed isn't great so his ceiling is limited there. Otherwise he's a standup guy and good leader.
-McDuffie next year will probably be a must and that's going to be pricey but if he replicates last year then its fairly obvious, can we afford it? idk.
-George it really depends. He's getting better and doing all the right things, it just comes down to how good is he? Right now when teams look at our D-Line they say "we gotta block 95" and I don't think they say that about George yet. DE money is pricey so it all depends on how much of a jump he makes this year.
Receivers that come to KC gotta be realistic too.. you wonât get huge numbers!! Pat is going to throw the ball to whoever is open and Kelce is WR1 lol so just saying!!
Karlaftis and McDuffie do have the 5th year options that i would asume will be picked up for both of them
Yep they can be for sure
Pacheco is a must keep. He is the energy guy. He is a top 12 RB. You know he will bring it every game. I know RBs donât age well but he deserves a second contract with KC. Not top of the market deal but he definitely needs to stay.
Cole i agree with you N.Bolton is a must sign unless Brett Veach and company feel they can draft another potential LB. That will only means Coach Spag will have to retrain another prototype LB. Meaning Arrowhead will need to be patient for another 2 years. And the rest of us will have to re-live the "fire spag" once more. đ€ą
Know Iâm seeing the problem with a three time championship team working on a 3peat, you canât pay everyone. đą
Drue Tranquill will be 29 before the start of the season⊠I feel like you gotta pay Bolton⊠The drop-off between above average linebackers and average is MASSIVE⊠Pay Bolton after this year. Let Trey go because thereâs a lot more capable guards out there who can give similar production to himâŠ
THEY NEEEEEED TO KEEP ALL OF THEM
I don't see the Chiefs adding either JuJu or Lockett....thats just "hopium"
Must keep: humphrey, mcduffie, pacheco l, butker and bolton
Well, I would say this. I don't really believe that the wr room was so stacked. I think that no one really separated them self as a number one and two wr. Let's be honest. Bad route running and drops rates our WR room as pretty low. So the fact that RJ did not secure one, two or three isn't really good.
Nick Bolton: That assessment is based on last year when Drue was able to step in. You do not have that anymore because Drue will already be on the field. Now, he may slide over and play that role, but with Gay gone, Nick's value actually went up. IMO. The only exception would be an UDFA surprises everyone. I say this is a must keep.
I think the LT position will effect resigning thuney if the young tackles can't get it done.
Gotta try and lock up a large part of that 22 draft class if we can. I donât see us keeping more than one between Bolton, Creed, and Trey. Reid and Charles are also more than likely heading to other teams. Next rebuild is going to happen again real soon.
Great video Cole! Thanks for the update
According to the "internet", the 2025 cap will run up to about 274M or a little less.
Not as big a jump as 23-24 but hey, for another 19M I can detail my Bentley. These
LB's and other line players are important and I think we're in good shape but all
other teams being equal, we could use the money. We are a ways down the roster
as most teams do have more available cap space but a few do have less as well.
Spend that moo-lah but do it wisely.
Locket has KC ties that could make him very friendly. Doubt it, but you never know.
All of them!
Pay Butker. Pay him a lot. Heâs the #2 kicker in the league, and his paycheck should reflect that.
We cant keep it all. The window for a SB with this group close this season.
Next season we have to make plenty of moves.
Then we could have more room without kelce and CJ95
Juju would be a great addition.
Extend those 3.
O line is a priority.
For me must keep would be: Humphrey and McDuffy
I also won't be sifting through game footage, even if I were qualified to do so, to evaluate whether Richie James was getting open more than implied by targets. However, spanning his 5-year career, James has produced over 10 yards for every pass thrown his direction. Only 12 wide receivers with 50 or more targets accomplished that feat during the 2023 regular season and the list is a veritable whoâs who of top receivers. I donât know how meaningful that might be but itâs at least interesting.
Creed and Butker are getting the bag. I think Bolton and Trey are going to come down to what they are asking for as well as what their markets are looking like. Dru and the IOL guys we drafted are insurance/leverage in the negotiations with them. J. Reid is an interesting case as hes played up to his current contract, wouldn't mind him coming back on pretty much the same deal. Doubtful that Hollywood resigns after the years hes about to have. CO is going to be interesting because hes only going to have half a season.
McDuffie will be more expensive than GK (though that could change if GK improves even further) though I don't think it will be by that much which means I think only one of them will sign a second contract with the Chiefs. The other 3 corners (Williams, Watson, and Johnson) I think all could be back and for cheap too. Cook could price himself out of KC but the Chiefs could turn to him with J. Reid's contract being up and rolling with Chamari and Hicks as the other safeties and drafting a 4th (or promoting Bush to that spot). Pacheo is another case of what hes asking for/market. I'd be shocked if Skyy got a second contract unless he defies the odds and becomes a reliable WR and then it'll only be a 1 year "prove it wasn't a fluke" contract.
Chiefs were ahead of the league in grading guards as a high price position.
Bro I forgot Ritchie James even existed lol bro hasnât done anything recently
They better find away to keep all 2022 draft class like I can't see Pacheco in another uniform đą or Bolton or Karl we got to figure it out use a tag on one of them if we got too mcduffie deserves all his money đ° damđą
Dude, where did you get that shirt? Freaking awesome!!!!!!
The downside of drafting well the past few years. You can't keep them all. If I had to guess Veach wants to keep that middle O-Line as intact as he can. Bolton will probably be a casualty of that unless he takes a team friendly deal to stick around all this winning.
I would agree with creed then smith then Bolton on those 3. Obvious money does make a difference between it if Bolton doesnât want the bag it would be nice to keep him also
Creed
Bolton
Smith
Butker are all must!
Easier said than done we donât have money
??cole could you do a video talking about Clyde, and about how many players have been in his situation. With a positive spin if he has a great season with pacheco, I'm curious on the likelyhood
Cole you are a dawg
Several from the 2022 draft class will be gone. In Veach we trust.
Iâm hoping Hollywood Brown balls out but likes playing in KC enough to wanna take a team friendly multi year deal after winning his first ring with KC
That song by boyz 2 men, "it's so hard to say goodbye," is going to be ringing bigtime next year....
I think the Chiefs will be able to negotiate a team-friendly deal with Bolton. Tranquill just signed for ~$6 mil a year so I'd be surprised if Bolton asks for more than $10 mil a year when his recent stats do not exceed Tranquill's.
If Bolton does leave though, I'd like for us to re-sign Gay. His Saints contract is only for 1 year and I doubt they'd be able to outbid us with their massive cap constraints.
With $15m in cap space right now we can afford to make some moves. I could see one of the three signing a front heavy extension before the season that eats into that available cap we have now to give some flexibility in the future. Ie Smith signs an extension for 3 years $54m averaging out to $18m/year, but work it in a way that gives him $10m this season in additions to his $3.4m he's getting making the yearly hit for the next three $44m or $14.7m/year. Numbers are for example and not a proposal of his value.
Iâd like KC to keep Humphrey and Bolton at all cost. Trey Smith might be too pricey. After them Iâd like to keep Hollywood if he balls out and doesnât go into diva mode and want Chiefs-A-Holic type money next year. Gotta keep Pacheco and McDuffie. Pacheco will probably sign a team friendly deal. He seems to really like KC and McDuffie will set the bar for CB when he signs his deal. Omenihu will probably get a team friendly offer given his injuries and I think he will take it as the team hasnât given up on him. I just hope he doesnât turn into an Eric Berry.
Iâm certainly not the authority on nfl players. But how is Creed the best center in the league? His snaps are wild. Iâll have to go back and watch but there were more than a few throughout last season and especially in the SB that were just plain in the grass. But what do I know đ€·ââïž
His blocking - and every center has some wild snaps...
With Creed, Thuney and Smith, Mahomes doesn't have to worry much about DTs or blitzing LBs coming at him down the middle.
He had his worst season this year. First 2 were elite. Iâm sure heâll bounce back.
Creed is only 25 keep that in mind.
I totally agree with the priority of (1) Creed, (2) Smith and (3) Bolton. The Chiefs will find a way to make this happen!
Juju would be just right to mix in with the two new speedsters. A stabilizing influence on the WR room. Sky Moore might make reasonable trade bait, but the Chiefs would have to give up a draft pick to get someone to take Kadarius T.
I adore Ju-ju đ I'd welcome him back with open arms !
Is there a way to just keep everybody đ đ
Omen need to keep he is a beast
Remember the patriots had a 10 year gap between there third and fourth Super Bowls
KC baby since 93!
They wonât pay Bolton. Him and Tranquil are pretty much interchangeable and they already paid him
I want Richie back with KC!! I donât think he got a lot of opportunities tbh.. I think he is a good player
Injuries derailed his role with the WR room
Ka'darius Toney i know he did not have the best season last year but he will this year
We need Bolton
Juju is only coming back if Rice is suspended this year. Rice plays the same role on the field and we've already got too many WRs the way it is.
That said, Lockett would be a great get if the financials are right. We're not going to overpay in trade to get him and have to pay him a lot of money. We'd also be looking to drop 1 or 2 other WRs already on the team to make room. Would he be a good upgrade and fit? Absolutely. Does it feel like a Veach move to get him? Not at all.
No way the Chiefs give up a draft pick and have to rework his contract for JuJu. JuJu is getting cut later. The Pats drafted two WR's this past draft and I don't think they hold onto JuJu.
Must keep order for me is
Mahomes
Kelce
Andy Reid
Lol na I just playing
Creed
Trey
Trent
Pacheco
Karlaftis
Richie James looks like Sideshow Bob.
U wouldn't dare say that to his face đđœ
@ScorpioMojo How much?
@@TheRealcdawg22 - I'm from the Show Me State đ
Creed needs to shore up his snaps. Mahomes does a great job bailing him out, but bad snaps cost Mahomes post snap read times.
He really does make alot of bad snaps.
Ever since the superbowl I've been non stop looking at the money situation and we have to lose alot of good players as usual
Richie james needs to just be happy he finally won a suoerbowl
Honestly with Tranquill I'd rather let Bolton walk and spend a premium draft pick on a LB
It seems that anyone we get from the giants, is a bust đą
Been a bummer lol
Had A lot of drops in 23
McDuffie, Reid, Karlaftis, Humphrey, Pacheco, Chenal No. 5 đ€Ł, Bolton. This is what happens when you draft them cheap and you are so good at making them the best player in their position then they get priced out because you made them too good. LOLLL.
When you draft well and start winning, guys leave. It's the way it goes people
Are star center needs o new contract with the chiefs