How to use EQ, Xover, and Time Correction on the Kenwood Excelon radios
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- In this video we show you all the new features and settings in Kenwood new EQ section. This Video is for the model radio DNX983s, DNX693s, DDX9903s , and the DDX6903s.
If you would like to know more about these radios check out our other video. We dig deeper into features and how to's for all the models.
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You don't know how much I love you for saying let's go over bass boost don't use it. Truer words were never spoken!
Great video. As soon as you said “bass boost: don’t use it” I knew you were legit.
Depending on the Filter characteristics and subwoofer it can be useful to flatten the response. For example you make a compromise in enclosure building that it maybe is strong below 30hz and works okay up to 100hz but there is a dip in between yet the enclosure might be a lot smaller made like this depending on many factors and if that filter boosts this area and the sub can handle the power it is very very useful to make the Response flat. Same goes for any other filter. If the speaker can handle a boost there is no problem using it.
You seriously just helped me understand crossovers for the first time after 3 years of messing with my equalizer in my kenwood. I can not believe I just now understood the fact that the drop off being a sudden drop off for me is better than a slow drop off. Thank you so much seriously.
Everyone here is asking how to tune their graphic EQ's. Good question! Since I have many years experience tuning medium and larger scale PA systems professionally, I thought I'd offer some friendly help:
You can do this! It's all about using your ears. A very simple way to start is to set your graphic flat and put on your favorite music, semi-loud. Turn up each freq, one by one, and listen to the difference it makes. If that freq hurts your ears or distorts the speakers, turn it down until it doesn't. If you like a freq and want to hear it more, turn it up a bit. Repeat across the band. It should sort of look like waves, but probably nothing too extreme plus or minus. And despite what you've seen others do, a smiley face is probably NOT going to sound best. Basically, you should be able to get it very loud, without distortion, AND without hurting your ears. It should also sound balanced across the freq spectrum (low to high). Make sure you can hear the bass, vocals (mids), and highs.... and all of the instruments in the song. Only after all of that is done, if you really want more bass.... turn up the bass.
There are more professional tools and methods out there for sure, but this is the basic method every pro audio engineer refers to in a pinch. You might find you enjoy it, and you will be training your ears at the same time. Happy tuning!
In a few words: you are such a good and cool person, Sr.
@@marcob.9969 Hey, Thanks Marco!!
Also, if you still want more bass after all of that, use subtractive eq. Subtractive eq can come in handy if for all frequencies but in our case, it usually means “adding” even more bass. We do this by leaving the bass levels the same (after eq’ing everything) and turn down all of the other frequencies in unison. This creates more perceptive bass in relation to the other frequencies. It should add some volume headroom as well.
Thanks for the great tip. I am struggling with the Sound Effect part 1:05. I have played with it so much I can't figure out the best setting anymore. Should I turn them all off and just try your equalizer adjustment method?
@@snowwalker9999 I tried all of the 'sound effect' settings offered on the unit for kicks. In the end, I left them all off and just set the graphic EQ. They were fun to play with, but were more ear candy than useful. Although it is impressive technology, they tend to create an unnatural sound using complex algorithms and digital filters. Note that no professional recording studio is going to use these types of artificial processing, so why should we? I say stick with the graphic, you'll have more fun tuning, and get better results across all recordings. Cheers
Thank you for explaining the x’over…. It literally saved my tweeters in my pillars. I could barely turn up the radio without them cracking, but once you explained the x’over it changed everything!!! So much better
I have a single din Excelon without this display. This helped me understand what is actually going on much clearer. Thanks
You guys have the Best in depth videos on youtube, A+
Fantastic explanation of the features, helps me understand what I can change to get just that "perfect" sound... and way to go Kenwood... 10000% better stereo head unit than the Sony I bought first and returned... audio settings on the Sony were about 2.5% of the options on the Kenwood. My unit is the Kenwood DMX7706S. The Sony was the XAV-AX210SXM. Love the Kenwood - the Sony made me feel unsafe to drive, the interface was so bad with Android Auto.
This is old and I’m bringing it back up. AWESOME JOB ON THIS VIDEO
Surprisingly still relevant
Thank you for the video. My favorite part: “of course we have 15s” lol
Exactly the info I was looking for to help me tune my deck and set it up better, appreciate the video guys!
Just installed the kenwood ddx99704s into my Honda element. This has helped me greatly!
I have this unit in my car and the hd tuner isnt picking up stations well. How has yours been
The HD RADIO HAS BEEN ok in my area
Just installed the kenwood dmx809s. This is perfect. Thank you
Thank you.
Just what I needed with my brand new DMX8019DABS installed in a 31 year old Land Rover One Ten which has the acoustic properties of a sewer combined with an international airport on a windy day with someone using a hair dryer, someone else banging a drum and several others making random noises.
@2:06 "Drive Equalizer" DOES NOT eliminate road noise, that's impossible from a head units position.
However, like the name a
implies, it will "Compensate" by adjusting it sound for the effects of road noise, determined by your volume level. The next generation version (Drive Equalizer+) does this by determining the actual car speed, by using GPS.
I'm seriously so impressed with this channel. Thanks for helping me understand my stereo. Subscribed!
Thank you very much for all of the different videos highlighting all the different features
I learned so much watching this!!!!
I’ve had my kenwood installed for about 3 weeks but the sound just wasn’t right. After watching this I got it PERFECT. THANKS SOOO MUCH
Guys great video just purchased this unit and finally was able to property set all sounds.
I just bought the dmx1037s and this tutorial is perfect !
Omg!!!!!!!thanks sooooo much...very helpful...I now understand the Xover settings...
Great Video, now i know what is the Slope function at Xover.
Thank you for this video. I have a Kenwood and the manual stinks. I was able to adjust my head unit with a much better understanding after this video. Thanks
Another great and helpful video. In my 2011 GC I just set
the dnx893 to no bass boost, loudness low, no drive eq yet, no space enhancer,
realizer off and sound stage to middle. I did have bass boost at 1 and loudness
off but at low volumes it was thin. EQ is Rock
Rob Figenbaum yeah not a fan of bass boost, I have the 9903 settings on the shelf waiting to go in. It is driving me crazy I can't wait to play with it.
This is so helpful thank you. I do wish the audio installer had fix all these settings for me.
You can. Go to a top rated shop and they'll charge you but it's worth it.
Search my name in the comments for a guide to setup the graphic EQ.
Ive learned so much from this video. I just got the Dmx709s. Only thing im still having trouble with is getting the vocals to come as clear as the rest. I listen to hard rock/metal and the music always trumps the vocals. I can't get them equal. Any advice?
that voice crack at 9:24 hahaha. great video nonetheless
Great video. I have this in a slingshot so this is very helpful.
I'm OCD I'd spend 4 years tinkering with it before I ever enjoyed it
I agree with you! I don't have this model kenwood stereo but I have one just like it. Had it for well over 6months and I still haven't worked everything out on it, I've given up on a few of them because it blew 2 of speakers up. Great unit but they could have made it easier to use
Yeah I bought a used truck that was already equipped with this by the previous owner, and my music sounds like straight up garbage. I’ve spent hours tinkering with it and I’m never satisfied with it. Kinda wish the previous owner just never upgraded the infotainment system lol
Very informative! Please do more videos like this.
Greetings from Malaysia!
maman89 hey there, thank you very much and thank you for letting us know where you are from, super cool.
just bought the same unit , need to go to college , ill figure it out in 4 years LMMFAO WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big help. Thanks very much I learned a lot
How can you tune the c6 Corvette when It has 10in speakers in the lower front, tweeters in the upper front door and the rears have 5.25 in the ?
I would love to get a sound system installed with you guys.
Thank you for the useful info my friends.
This was helpful in explaining the features of the radio. I have a question though. Can you help me understand how bass and treble relate to the EQ at the different frequencies? Generally, on a stock radio I do 10/10 bass and 8/10 on treble. I'm trying to figure out how to set the EQ to where I can achieve more boom bass from the speakers AND a clear volume for vocals. Any help would be appreciated.
Jonathan Gamber get better speakers. Cranking up the EQ is just going to cause distortion at high volume levels. But to answer your question, bass and treble settings are exactly the same as the EQ in this video, except you can only adjust 2 frequencies instead of 13. Typically bass is centred at 100Hz and treble is 1000Hz.
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I needed this. Thank you
You skipped “Bass EXT” on the EQ . What exactly does it do and do I need to have it on when I set my amp gain?
Bass ext keeps the gain under 62.5hz the same as 62.5hz, if you turn it off frequencies under 62.5hz are just lowered
are all the settings lost if the battery is disconnected or can it somehow save all the crossover points and etc.
Depends on model
Mine reset itself after the car audio place set the system perfectly. Now im sitting here watching tube videos trying to fix it back lol
So the speaker level adjustment has no positive db adjustment. Just lowering it?
Nice walk through. Thanks!!
Great video! If you are trying to grow your channel though I would recommend writing a script, it may seem silly but it will greatly enhance your production quality
I have been searching high and low trying to find a straight answer about the Sub Level mentioned @13:30. How does this effect RCA voltage? If the RCAs are clean all the way up, Do you get your full 4v with sub level at 0, or all the way up? the exact radio i have is a DDX375bt and I watched you guys specific video about and didn't see anything there either. Kenwood is shooting themselves in the foot giving these radios this level of function and not clearly mapping exactly how it works.
You guys are great😊
I had one of these newer headhunts, Have fun tuning it, look at all the junk audio settings , you just get lost t--ry,in..to. s6e6t th-e fr-.ki.n th-i. n..g, see what I mean, Went back to my Alpine oldie headunit,.... Eq/ HP& LP crossovers/ db/ and volume. Couple Morel mid's.. Hertz super tweets , And a set Focal components, topped off with small 10 alpine Sub. All hooked up to a Alpine 300 watt amp. simple but very effective ....
this menu is much more intuitive than their newer models like the ddx396
Great vid. Learned a lot
Appreciate the vid. Just be careful using some of those other dsp settings and the eq. Those often introduce clipping/distortion.
thornygravy thank you and yes everything in moderation:)
I don't have zone control on mine, how do I then turn on the rear pre out?
sweet now if I can figure how to set the radio stations .
You guys are awsome! Please show me how to do a first time Garmin maps update on the Kenwood DNR1007XR. I can't get the ID code transferred to my SD card. Garmin NAV instructions don't work.
Does the EQ have a gap of no noise silence for a second between adjustments? This is REALLY annoying on the Pioneer.
Most all radios do and yes it can be very annoying
Million thanks 🙏... I did not know Ken wood has such a lot of features... I thought pioneer was the lion king 😁
Kindly advise which specific after-market radio will give me very low sub frequencies of 25Hz (air bass) without distortion. Am not into apple/ android auto connect features or cameras... am more interested in sound quality .
Thanks again Sir.
"Of course we have 15"🤣🤣🤣
That was hilarious
So loudness = dynamic range reduction aka make all instruments in the song the same volume. Got it.
Space enhancer = probably uses some combination of time delay to create the illusion of larger space similar to 'Spatial' in Alpine head units Got it.
Supreme/Realizer/Drive EQ = Now this is where i get confused, i know Alpine have a MX (media xpander) mode, which basically re-encodes lossy formats such as MP3's/AAC's from USB or your phone on the fly to make the song come alive and sound as they should, it has three modes on the Alpine, each one dramatically makes things louder and boosts the output voltage on the RCA, and will clip the signal to your amps unless you turn the gain down. The Kendwood Realizer mode which also has three modes makes me think this is the same thing as MX on the alpines. Got it.
However i'm not sure what supreme and drive EQ is for then? seems like they are kinda doing the same thing????
I do like how you can set tweeter level on the front, this is such a well thought out feature.
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Loudness-at least back in the day-was mostly about altering the frequency response dynamically to account for the fact that the sensitivity of our ears to certain frequency ranges varies depending on volume.
nice got the older dnx 5150
Any way you can go more into detail on how and when to use the 2 way vs 3 way option for the X over on the excelon DMX706S
I have a kenwood DDX23BT end a iPhone when I play the Bluetooth end I increase the volume at 28 gos back to 15 doesn’t let me go over do you know how to fix it Gracias
So what setting on the graphic equaliser is treble? On some songs I can’t hear the voices very much and no matter how I mess with the bass I can’t hear the voices well
You move the middle section up. Maybe around 100hz-1khz
does the s/w level adjust voltage to just that channel? or what does it do?
thanks in advance!
larry
It increases your rca voltage
This answered a bunch of questions, as I have this unit and am just familiarizing myself with it. Can you tell me what to look for if, when hooked to Apple carplay, I can barely hear people who call me even when phone volume is all the way up? Thanks in advance.
Great vid! Thxxx
Will the new Excelon Reference series memorize the settings so in case of power failure.... you don't have to go through all of this over again? I am specifically looking at the DNX995S.
@FiveStarCarStereoInc BTW I love the video and always do i love car audio and you've taught me more then many others but serious questions please answer if you can/have time as ive been trying to figure some of this out for a while i find a few things weird/funny first you showed a gain setting in the crossover area for subwoofer and then i see another gain control or subwoofer level in general equalization area one i believe goes down to -10 in crossover area then again the equalization area it has subwoofer level n that goes i believe from -10 to plus 10 i dont understand why 2?just for pure ease? different controls for the subwoofer output
Secondly i had the Pioneer Premier Deh-860mp and it was the first color screen cd/mp3 player it was amazing it had a setting on the outside for output it had an active settings so your output went from front rear sub to high mid low i feel very ahead of its time also it had 13 band eq and digital time alignment and self eq as well you took your vehicle to a quite location and plug in the provided microphone and it would exactly time alignment exactly to where your head sat i would always turn my subwoofers off as that didn't work it would just clip the microphone but why dont they use this technology now with better microphones instead they got these dsp which are amazing but not only do you have to have a great understanding of how it works and how each car is completely different when it comes to tuning these and as well you need nice microphones or at least one to help it spund good which most dont have even the better locations around the country do not have the things you do nor do they have enough knowledge like you guys do they unfortunately are in it o ly to get momey in there pocket not necessarily to make there customers walk away like wow those guys know an extreamly high amount of knowledge compared to the other shop i went to i wish more shops where like you but i truely would like a teply on why not use the technology
Thank you for the great video!! EXTREMELY HELPFUL!!! Just so I Understand, I've installed a pair of Polk Audio DB6501 speakers with their own crossover. Based on your video should I remove the crossover cutoffs and allow the Polk crossovers to do all the work?
Hi... You don't have to remove your crossovers. You can leave them, as you would just be adding extra protection. Kinda like a failsafe. If you mess up on Ur unit the crossover you have already will save you from ruining your speakers by accident
Does 'through' use the amp/subwoofer crossover instead?
Yes
Please, Can u give the best 13 band eq settings.
There is no best setting, unfortunately. And every car/system is different. Ultimately it is all up to what sounds good to your ears. I work in pro audio and tune multi thousand watt PA systems with 31 band graphic EQ's on top of parametric among other things. In the end it is just more detailed work with very expensive tools.
You can do this! A very simple way to start yourself is to set your graphic flat, put on your favorite music semi-loud, turn up each freq one by one and listen to the difference it makes, if that freq hurts your ears or distorts the speakers, turn it down until it stops. If you feel like a freq and want to hear more, turn it up a bit. Repeat across the band. It should sort of look like waves, nothing too extreme. Basically, you should be able to get it very loud without distortion, AND without hurting your ears. Happy tuning!
I need one of those
Thanks for the video. I have the DMX907S. I'm wondering if this HU uses crossovers by default? I thought I was utilizing only my amp settings, but watching this video made me wonder if I might not be getting what I think; especially if I select the car type, speaker position and size, etc. I assume from that information, Kenwood is choosing crossover parameters, gain, etc vs me explicitly setting the crossover values using the X'OVER button? If by default the Excelon is applying crossover values, how do I turn it off? By setting car type to none? Or am I misunderstanding?
Question is the crossover setting necessary if I am running 2 amps (one sub and one to 6x9s) and the amp filters are set to how I want it?
What would we select for a single cab truck? SUV or Wagon? I have two front speakers and two year speakers only. No subs
Awesome thanks.
Are these the same basic functions of a DSP? What is is lacking that the DSP has? One thing which be cool is EQ per speaker rather than per input which is maybe where the DSP shines?
Can you tell me which stereo will gives you best musical experience Alpine or Kenwood. Since the tuning level of kenwood matches the alpine. Please suggest me a best stereo which give us more audio clarity and good experience.
Check out the Ddx9903s
What happens if I leave everything on 'through' and use only the amplifier settings??
Either is fine
Thanks for the great vids. On my DDX9903s, four of the options are not lit for me to select; speaker/x'over, equalizer, position/dta and sound effect. Things I've tried; putting it in park, turning iPhone bluetooth off, and tried playing a CD just to make sure it's not on standby.
seanautube try resetting the radio just in case something was turned off
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I just tried that and now the only lit option under audio is zone control? I bought it from Ebay as refurbished, but guaranteed to work.
You are the maaaaaaaaan!!!!!!! Like I said, the problem seemed worse right after initializing, but I opened up Audio settings today and it's all there! I guess it just needed a full reboot by turning the vehicle off and then on. Not only that, but I didn't have to do the update over again, it kept all the update fixes / perks.
seanautube sweet, glad you got it working. Enjoy
I am, thanks again. Quick question; I have an older v-power alpine amp (MRP-F250) with 40w x4. Will it sound better than an Alpine KTP-445U Universal Power Pack claiming 45w x4?
Thanks for the great video. I have a question I have the DNX693s installed in my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and left the factory amp in. The problem is I hear white noise or hiss on all my speakers more so in the rear how can I eliminate it? Thanks Steven
Steven Ross what interface did you use?
Five Star Car Stereo I use the Meastro RR
Steven Ross well that is a great interface. At this point you have 2 choices. 1 live with it or 2 replace the factory amp with something better. Unfortunately interfacing with factory is not always perfect.
Five Star Car Stereo I agree with you I think I will replace it with the Kenwood eXcelon XR600-6DSP when it comes out in a couple of weeks that's the was to go it think unless you have a better idea.
Steven Ross that amp would be over kill if you are running a 693. The radio already has all DSP features built in. I would just get the XR900-5 and be done.
I don’t know how many people are still on this video but does anyone know how to add a tweeter to the back? Mine came with a full woofer and tweeter in front and back and my back ones keep popping from having too low of frequencies going through them.
What model kenwood double din is this?
Can I use the X-over if my car unit doesn't have external amplifiers and subwoofer connected, and it's driving the factory speakers?
I've got a dmx4707s can't seem to get sound from rear speakers on Bluetooth. How do you change that setting?
I was thinking of purchasing an separate DSP to go with the kenwood 893s. To achieve a good or awesome sound in my car will the DSP built in the 893 be enough or can I still ad a DSP?
+Marshall Timmons the Kenwood is a pretty amazing DSP. If you want more you can definitely add something else
when setting x over on deck do i leave cross overs on amp alone i did set x overs on amp when i installed
Yes leave them because the stereo don’t filter all of them also when you turn on the car the amp can clip and damage your tweeters so it’s extra protection
What's the best car type setting for a Ford Ranger super cab?
not really a valid question. nobody knows what your ears like and nobody knows what products live in you truck :)
How do I set the eq to a level where I increase the vocals and lower the bass
I’ve found lowering the 160 and 100 frequencies helped a lot. Keeping the 62.5 up keeps the “thud” of the bass drum and reducing 100 and 160 really tamed the extra boominess. Once your bass is tamed, you should be able to just turn up the volume to hear vocals clearer. If not, start adjusting other frequencies (630-6.3k) one at a time until you hear a difference. 10k and 16k is where a lot of that high-end “sparkle” lives. Adjusting those frequencies can make a big overall difference in sound too. Adjust those to your liking one-by-one until it sounds how you want it. There’s no other way to learn how to EQ but once you know how, you’ll never forget and you’ll be adjusting all of your friends car radios too.
I had a ddx9907xr kenwood installed in my c6 corvette which had bose premium navigation system. When I had the factory radio installed i had my treb at 5 mid a 3 and bass at 3 from a 0-5 setting on each. I don't know what to set this radio at to have it sound good? Still has factory bose speakers and tweets in it. I don't know the frequency they are to set a cross over or even where I should put the equ to sound as I had it to the factory radio. Get really distorted above volume 28. Could you help me where to set the eq?
How do you factory reset a kenwood dnx 5170 dabs phone book doesn't load phone icon is not there and Spotify doesn't work it a Bluetooth problem I think
I have a kenwood excelon dmx 706s with 4 infinity kappa 62IX power by Kenwood XR401-4 channel amp and doesn’t sound as clear i was expected like too much bass over clarity. How should i tune up my amp? Should I use the x’over before tuning the amp or after? I’m all confused 🫤
If anyone will anser my complicated question, I just want to say thank you!
Did you ever get it sorted out?
@@ryanwilson5936 no, I tried everything and nothing worked lol. When I had the cheap Sound Ordnance M75-4 from crutchfield, the sound was so crisp. I think ill do the switch back whenever I will have the time.
@@andrect7030
“Whenever I will have the time”….. man, I feel you there. I actually have 4 of the same exact Kappas still new in the box I bought over a year ago just waiting on me. Everything is hooked up but those. I even have the speaker cable ran from their amp. Something about removing a bunch of door panels makes the rest of life a much higher priority. And, I live in Michigan and winter is coming… It may become a 2023 spring project.
Do these settings all function as intended if I'm using the factory amp/processor with a Maestro RR? Vehicle is a 2021 Grand Cherokee with the 10 speaker Alpine system.
I have this install in my car it’s worth it
Idk if you still answer questions here but I have one. I have an 06 pathfinder with the Bose system. Kenwood ddx9703s.
Since it used factory amplifier and speakers I have it hooked up via RCAs.
The harness only provided me 4 RCAs which I hooked up to front and rear.
Included in the rear channels is the rear speakers and the factory subwoofer
It's a long shot but is there anyway to adjust the sub settings?
Also a 2nd question. I have a problem with blueooth calling/microphone.
People I talk to complain they cant hear me or can barely understand me because the sound quality is so poor.
I tried adjusting noise cancellation and those microphone settings with no help
Is it a bad mic? Or Is there anything else I can adjust on the unit?
I hate to have to take it all apart to replace a faulty mic if it turns out to be simple setting fix.
Hope u get this. Thanks so much in advance
This is a great Radio I love it but I can't get the phone calls to come through loud enough to hear I've tried everything I just can't get my call volume to be loud and the volume is up as high as it can go. Any suggestions
do you have video for Kenwood dnx577s Controlling Audio send me link plz
When setting the crossover for each set of speakers do i put in the setting from the specs the speaker manufacturer gives for that speaker?
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Does this negate the need for a DSP?
How do you adject the c d