Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Retrospective
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- čas přidán 16. 01. 2023
- Analyzing the third game in the Metroid Prime series, Corruption. Specifically placing a focus on why it originally didn’t click with me, and seeing if my opinion has changed since.
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I personally loved everything this game tried. Also, this is the only game where I can CONFIDENTLY say that the motion controls were a delight to use, added to the experience, and were well executed
The motion controls are also great in the Wii versions of the first two games.
Same. Strangely, to me, Metroid Prime 2 is the weakest one. feels way more linear than 3, hate the ball bosses (spider ball boss and dash ball boss omg) and i felt that the different locals were either desert, dark desert, ruins, dark ruins, tech place, dark teck place. The luminoth guy is cool though xD
I liked corruption because it felt more like a lived in universe. The Federation feels like it's an actual force and I'm super surprised you didn't mention that awesome scene when you lower the planetary shields and the federation fighters swoop down and start raising hell. Then soldiers are assigned to guard the landing pads. I thought that was so cool. Other bounty hunters with their own styles exist, multiple planets; if only they had continued from there and not waited so long.
This. You felt like you were an important part of a real, living universe. The galaxy is supposed to be at stake in all the other metroid games as well, but the isolation actually works against one feeling like this is the case. Here, getting to meet the people youre fighting for really helps that part of the story hit home
Prime 3 Motion Controls were one of, if not the best implementation of motion controls there ever were on the Wii. It might have been finnicky at times with the pumping and stuff but the rest worked very well imho. All in all I liked Corruption a lot, it was a very satisfying conclusion to the trilogy at the time.
I feel like I got lucky with motion controls. I never had any issue with stuff not tracking right or messing up anything.
Man, bro, just hearing that choir for the intro literally is marked on my soul. MP3 was my 1st Metroid game, so it means a lot to have it being reviewed and still loved and enjoyed more than 15 years after it released, so thank you so very much for bringing attention to the prime games that they rightfully earned and deserved.
IT SLAPS SO HARD
Thinking about it, I wish as you got deeper into the planets you got to see how the planet itself was corrupted by phase. That would've been cool. Can't wait for Prime 4!
I always liked how the Corrupted Aurora Unit final boss serves a similar function to a Mother Brain battle, at least thematically. It felt like a fitting finale to the Prime Trilogy.
Thematically, yes, I think it's a great way to end things. But man, I just really can't get over how lame the fight itself is.
@@Kohana64 Oh well. At least Phaaze was really cool imo.
Prime 3 did bring a welcomed (to me) more narrative aspect, all the while preserving exploration and feelings of being left on your own most of the time. I love Prime 2 and 3, but I also love narration, and 1 and 2 have none (although I love learning the lore through reading the files). Prime 3 varies between loneliness/exploration, and more epic narrative sequences.
as someone who plays Prime 3 a lot, the super zoomed out view in the footage is so trippy. I'm used to many of the shots being closer up, especially because they give some nice detail, like how Gandrayda in the intro to 242 leans forward in interest when it starts speaking for the first time, or when Samus gets corrupted and the close up of her visor as she falls back looks very Dark Samus esque.
I love the trilogy as a whole, my favorite is Prime 1 but each sequel brought the experience in to anothe level
yeah im finally starting to realize that prime 3 is better than i initially thought, can't wait for prime 4
These metroid openings reminds me of a happier and easier time in my life. I don't know how many times i played the intro of Corruption for the sole reason of saving the soldier getting sucked by the vaccum of space when the space pirates attacked.
That’s why I like to let them play for a bit at the start of each video. They carry so much emotional weight with them, and they’re so nostalgic for a lot of people. Also, it just makes a good transition..
Ikr! There were so many cool achievements to earn in the game like that one. This game was incredibly fun!
Really nice wrap up of the prime trilogy, I hope when prime 4 comes out it includes everything you spoke about near the end :)
Thank you for hitting on the ship upgrade issue. I like their narrative implementation, but its clear their utility was not fully realized, and that made clear to me by the fact there are several "mission expansion" upgrades in the game. My theory was there was supposed to be sections/areas where you could call airstrikes beyond blowing up generators/walls. Probably some larger areas in each map where there would have been a large number of enemies, or even boss fights would require extra ship ammo. It sucks looking for the ship missile expansions cause you think you're finding something really useful until you've beaten the game several times and realize there is no use of a limited ship ammo anywhere.
Anyways, Corruption was my first game on the wii, and not only my first time playing a metroid game, but also a prime game. I was hooked in almost as fast as when I first played the halo series. I agree with all the criticisms you levied against it, though it holds a special place in my heart. Love the whole trilogy, but when I pull out my wii every couple of years to play the trilogy again I am always most excited to finish 1&2 just so I can play 3. The story, the designs of the federation and space pirates, it feels like a real sci-fi.
Love the videos.
Corruption is my least favorite of the trilogy but I always appreciated how it is the climax of the trilogy, in the first two you where investigating two different events with the common denominator of phazon and you learn how dangerous it is, by corrpution you're at war with the space pirates and dark samus
Totally true. The stakes keep getting higher and higher between each game.
That's the same criticism people had with Mass Effect 3. They wanted to continue making choices that'll effect the outcome of the series, but it's the 3rd Act! Now its time to wrap up the story! Corruption was now needing to be more directed and guided than the previous 2. Now that whole guided narrative didn't work well with Fusion in my opinion, but I'm glad they ditched it for Dread and let you explore while wrapping up Samus' story.
Oh come. Prime 3 at least had an good ending ( till Prime 4 comes ) and the game is still good.
It's been A-blast watching you go through all these games. Can't wait for you to cover Metroid prime 4 whenever it comes out. Keep up the good work👍
Just found these videos and binged them all. Metroid has always been my favorite franchise and how I got into gaming in the first place. I’m always happy to see my beloved franchise get the love it deserves from people.
Thanks for checking them out! I love Metroid so much, I hope I can revisit the topic soon.
Corruption was my first prime I played all the way through. That being said, 1 and 2 came out when I was much younger, so I didn't have money for games then.
Corruption was dope imo, the wii controls may have been annoying for some, but all of those wiimote puzzles go by so quick when you have an actual wiimote,
I barely noticed them at all. I thought the story was incredible, the locations were all unique looking, and as you went along you began to feel terrible for the
bounty hunters you were taking out because you ultimately had no choice. The late game was awesome, fighting dark samus while excessively saturated with phazon
was epic. It was my first prime I really played, so luckily, I didn't really "experience" any of its problems
That makes total sense! I’m happy you enjoyed it so much
Absolutely amazing video! I thought you expertly articulated your thoughts and gave a great retrospective on corruption! I look forward too your next project whatever it may be!
Thank you so much!
What a good retrospective series. Listened to all three back to back to back. Subscribed.
I fully relate to you on Elysia being tedious. I almost dropped playing the game in that part despite being one of the coolest looking areas.
LET'S GOOO
Great commentary, these videos were a joy to watch!
This was my first introduction to the Prime trilogy, as I only grew up with a Wii, and one of the games we got from the flea market was Prime 3. I played all the way until the golem and I couldn't get any further. This game has a piece of my heart since it started my love of Metroid and got me to branch out to some of the Metroid games on virtual console. Heck, I beat Dread a couple days after it came out lmao. After playing Prime 1 and 2, I can definitely see the weak points in 3, and I'm glad to see someone out there point out not only the flaws but also the things it's got right. It really gives some love to the game that started it all, for me. Great Video! Hope to see more retrospectives on Metorid games from you!
I also grew up with MP3 and later played 1 and 2. So, Prime 3 still is nostalgic for me but I could see how great and different the other two games too.
I'm only 19 minutes into this but I appreciated your coverage. You reminded some of the details I forgot about. I did recall it took forever to navigate Sky Town but with the soothing music.. it calmed me down. It was only when you sped up your footage... I winced and realized 'It does take forever'.
I haven't played Prime 3 in years, this video helped me recall many things. I'm happy I managed to complete it, maybe it was because my sister bought me a guide-book. I found the narrative so strong, I had to learn how the game concluded.
I also liked the addition of teammates for Samus. I'm curious how much of Prime 3 influence will be in Prime 4. Thanks for the video, I'll keep watching now.
Can’t fault you for not noticing how long it takes, that song is damn beautiful. Hope you enjoy the rest of the video!
It always sucks hearing how Prime 3 didn't strike the same chord with a lot of people as it did for me. Prime 3 is my absolute favorite Metroid game in the entire series.
I love hypermode, I love the unique aesthetics, I love actually using Samus's ship, I love Dark Samus being taken as the legitimate threat she is, I love the voice acting and the Federation and the other bounty hunters, the controls feel anything but intrusive to me, the story feels more impactful, you get the screw attack much earlier, you don't lose your entry suit upgrades. It's just a blast from beginning to end for me.
Definitely a watching you first video once I beat prime and if this ever comes out on switch this too
Very well done video. I'm even more hyped for Prime 4 now!
just watched both other videos, great work :D
As someone who plays/played the games on their original consoles, you can tell that Corruption suffers from Wii syndrome. Basically they sacrificed certain game aspects to focus on their fancy motion controls. That been said the controls do make the game fun to play once you're used to them, but it does make the game gimmicky at times. You basically hit all the issues I had. Constant backtracking, being too easy, everything being easy to find. Another thing that may not have been an issue on PC but was definitely annoying on the Wii was the abhorred load times. The gunship was used as a loading screen like elevators, and it would take FOREVER to get to the next landing pad. I'm not saying it's a bad game, but in my opinion it is the weakest of the Prime series.
Oh yeah, the load times are pretty ridiculous. Even on PC. Hopefully if they ever do a rerelease, the upgraded hardware will help fix that. As for the controls thing, I totally agree. Overall, they're a net benefit, but they still have issues.
The loading times on Wii (and Wii U) are atrocious, sometimes you’ll shoot a door and wait a minute or two for it to open
it was like the only wii game where i enjoyed the implementation of waggleshit in gameplay
it's kinda egregious that they had to use it for banal shit like opening doors but in (some) puzzle solving and combat its fun
@@techwiz81 Worth hacking your Wii for to play it off of a hard drive (or buy it on the Wii U eshop). Improves the loading.
There were times where I wasn’t able to do anything with the fuel cell motion controls because my room wasn’t big enough and I couldn’t be far enough from the tv for it to register the controls
ooh i've been waiting for this one
Amazing video as usual! Keep it up! I love your content so much
Thanks so much man. It means a lot!
I wish we could have used the gunships missile strikes on bosses. That was a neat upgrade for solving puzzles
You earned yourself a subscriber. Can't wait for the Other M video. And hopefully others!
I figured out why I never had the key "motion controls" fail me but always come by people saying it doesn't work reliably:
Pushing and pulling on the wii remote are not a "motion sensor" input bur rather an IR camera action, so you literally only have to move your wii remote CLOSER or FURTHER from the TV, not yank it or stab at it, the wii remote can tell how much you varied the distance from a to b by the distance between the dots of the sensor bar, the wii's gyro/accelerometer don't have to "feel" anything. That's it, thank you for reading.
(PS: I mean I "figured out" that people seem to confuse the type of action, not that I didn't know the difference, some people never played Warioware and it shows)
Another absolute banger of a retrospective, keep up the good work my man!
Love these kind of videos. Just subbed from the recommendation of someone else I'm a fan of. I'll be sure to check this out in full and all your other videos very soon.
Thanks for checking it out! I appreciate it
Beautifully done sir.
Dude, great video. I share most of your feelings on Prime 3. I subbed, hope you make some great Prime 4 content
One of my biggest nitpicks with the finale of MP3 is that I feel its final bosses should have been fought in reverse.
You start by fighting the Corrupted Aurora Unit, then after you beat it, Dark Samus emerges and you fight her for the fate of Phaaze/the galaxy, in the cage match it deserves like those in MP2.
The CAU fight feels much less personal.
That actually makes a lot of sense. If you just kind of rush through the main story, it's unlikely you'd even know what's going on with the CAU, so that being the boss to close out the trilogy may seem odd. I think that it would've helped to build Dark Samus up as more of a threat, thus creating a stronger payoff. Thanks for the thought!
This is exactly my thought. I was not a fan of having a far less mechanically interesting fight being after one of the most fun boss fights in the game. If the order of fighting the AU and Dark Samus was reversed I'd love it way more
I quite like having an afterthought boss to wind down with - you have the big narrative battle and then you face an easy "victory lap" to let your adrenaline fade with rather than ending the game in your own personal hypermode and having to find some way to calm down on your own...
@@rmsgrey On the hardest difficulty, the second phase of Aurora Unit makes you heart beat faster lol.
I felt this way and then years later had a different idea; what if either dark samus or the CAU mutated to look like Metroid Prime Core? To really bring it back full circle from the first Prime game.
Awesome content, subbed! PLease do more Metroid Content, especially since it's so hot right now. I love seeing these kinds of videos, they make my day!
Keep it up, your videos are great.
This will forever live one of my favorite games considering this was my first Metroid aside from the gba port of the nes version. I played it to death on the wii. The variety in the environment. The fact you can see inside the iconic ship. All the upgrades and the fact the suit changes as you progress. As a kid I was utterly shocked how far it pushed the graphics on the wii. It was just so interactive and I can’t stress enough about how great the atmosphere is. If this is not ported to switch I’ll be devastated.
A fitting retrospective on my favorite game trilogy. In anticipation of Prime 4 these videos are like a refresher. I'll be buying Metroid Prime Remastered for the switch soon since there are a few new things added to that version. I look forward to working my way down after getting that badass Phazon Suit.
Prime 3 is a very close 2nd to prime 1 for me. I actually enjoyed it being a bit more linear and action oriented since the mystery of phazon is at its conclusion and now you're in an all out war. The federation is there. Other bounty hunters are there. The space pirates are there. Dark Samus looms and takes on an almost supernatural aura. It's all hands on deck! The expansion of the Phazon lore is what I love. Finally we understand that on Tallon IV and Aether it was a leviathan seed that crashed into the planets. One weird thing is that the super dangerous red phazon was absent despite being in the first game. The corruption aspect was interesting since if you allowed yourself to be overwhelmed by the PED suit you'd become a dark Samus yourself. An overall great game with a great ending. Especially if you got all of the items. You'll see that someone is following you after you leave the federation armada. I'm sure the premise for prime 4 will answer who or what that is.
I loved corruption and the wii. I hope to see a VR game similar to this. Great video!
I think that as a kid Corruption was my favorite because of the accessibility. I remember being able to beat Prime, but I gave up after an hour of playing Echoes. Then Corruption brought me back and I've been in love with the series ever since. I know not everyone likes how accessible Corruption is but I love the game and it's what cemented my love for the series. I mean i bought a switch OLED just to play Dread because I'm that in love with the franchise and without this game, I don't think that'd be the case. Also, really amazing videos for such a small channel!
Thank you! I respect your love of corruption, I think it's totally valid.
I bought this on release but didn't finish it until 2020 when I did a full series playthrough, despite loving the first two Prime games. I downloaded a save file with the online-only achievements and hypermode difficulty unlocked so I could jump straight into it.
Prime 3 shares a lot of the same problems I had with Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Other M. They feel designed for a player who immediately stops playing if they aren't told exactly what to do or where to go. They introduce lots of mechanics that are just one-off distractions instead of becoming core gameplay elements. Instead of using your items or abilities or unlock new parts of the game world, they're locked off until the story gives you a reason to go there.
It's hard to remember most of the new powerups you get in Prime 3. Most of them are just keys that allow you to progress instead of having actual use in combat. Hypermode is fun to use and the bosses on the hardest difficulty were still challenging with it, but it meant you're playing the game the exact same way the entire time instead of becoming progressively more capable and powerful like all the other Metroid games. The new planets weren't all that interesting even with scanning, but it was nice to learn how Tallon IV and Aether are doing after what you did to help them.
I loved this game. It’s an awesome climax and made me actually appreciate the story of the first two games
Nice retrospective!
The design of the corrupted Aurora Unit is haunting...
Something interesting to note about Metroid Prime 1 and 2 compared to 3 is in the first two games you may go through about 70% of the explorable level while going through the game and they leave that 30% for upgrade hunting. In Prime 3 however I found that by the time I finished the game, I'd more or less explored everything and the game had naturally got me to complete map exploration- hence why I feel like I was just given upgrades rather than have to hunt for them like in 1 and 2.
That's not really accurate. I'd say that prime 1 and 2 actually have a lot more mandatory map exploration. Prime 3 lets you never return to Norion if you want to, it lets you never explore a massive section in the middle of Bryyo if you want to, it lets you ignore big parts of Valhalla if you want to. Meanwhile, Prime 1 has some optional sections in Chozo ruins and that's kind of it. Prime 2 has some optional sections in Agon Wastes and Torvus Bog, and I feel like I'm being generous by calling those ''sections'', it's more like 2 or 3 rooms here and there.
I think the difference that you noticed is that in prime 3 you find the energy cells you need naturally instead of at the very end of the game, for one, and for two, Norion and Elysia can be completed long before the endgame. Neither of them requires more than the spiderball to fully clear them.
I really liked the grapple upgrade that let you grab an enemy and pull their energy out to heal yourself or push some of your own energy into them to overload them to death. I forget the real name of it, but I call it the Metroid Beam, since it does the same thing to Samus' enemies that a metroid does. I was really disappointed by the fact that you couldn't use this ability on enemies without shields though...
While I do like first 2 games better as well, I do love this one quite a bit as well. This game actually started making me want to try a challenge, where you play on the hardest difficulty, while avoiding all optional E-Tanks and Missile upgrades. I was never able to beat any of the 3 games that way, but I got very close. Without the 2 mandatory E-Tanks in this game, this type of challenge would be impossible. I tell you, going through Phaaze with this tiny Energy bar is quite the thrill.
But just in case you're interested, here's where all my challenge runs ended:
-Prime 1: Omega Pirate
-Prime 2: Quadraxis
-Prime 3: Literally the final phase of the final boss
Godspeed young one
I remember getting this game day one! And it was hell to play it because if I remember correctly they were using these updated discs and i had to update my Wii and i didn't have internet so I had to go to my friend's house to update.
I only every played 3 which sounds crazy but it made me absolutely love the metroid series. I'm currently playing prime and echoes on dolphin primehack. It's actually more enjoyable to play it like an FPS on pc in my opinion and I hope Nintendo will one day allow metroid games come out on the PC.
I highly recommend Federation force. It is genuinely the most fun multiplayer experience I’ve ever had. if you can get some friends together I couldn’t recommend it enough. It’s fun playing it alone but playing it with other people is the best way to experience it. It deserves more credit than what most people give it and most of the people that complain about the game haven’t even played it
I understand it your. Reasons, but as a Metroid super fan, I love it. I’ve beaten it probably has a dozen times, and the second time I feed it was immediately after the first time.
What I'd like to see in Prime 4 is some proper sequence breaks like you can pull off in Super or Dread, NOT something glitch based or something that defies all logic like scan dashing.
Holy crap, since in my mind I never played Corruption, I was searching for a quick recap for Prime 4.
This game was so unremarkable to me that I just realised after watching the final battle that I did play this game...
I really like your prime views. You hit all the right key points of what makes prime .. prime. Prime 2 will always be my favourite game so these reviews and your opinions resonate with me and alot of your viewers for sure
Also i really wish they put a main boss in the G.F.S vallhala when unlocking the code for the wormhole instead of the laughing stock instakill omega metroid. A meaty boss here wouldve been welcomed.
Even a secret boss only accessible with all 9 energy tanks would be awesome. Thanks for watching!
God damn I love the title soundtrack to this game.
Prime 3 is my favorite of the prime games and my top 3 Metroid games - I will buy it if they remake it
man I forgot about that metroid prime 3 intro. Chills
Loved Corruption so much,
Considering the whole "one month later" thing, this might actually be the longest timespan of any Metroid game. Usually, the events of the games probably take place in pretty much real time, however long it takes you to beat it is however long it actually took in-universe, but in this game, things take place over a month and change.
Menu theme is absolutely goated
i respect their way of trying to flesh out the world samus occupies but i’ve always felt they metroid is the encapsulation of ‘actions speak louder then words’ i sort of like the idea that in my own head canon i’ve never heard samus say a word (probably in a lot of peoples tbh)
Metroid Prime 3 was the first Metroid game I ever completed and I learnt to play with Wii motion controls and have always favoured them over the GameCube's controls so much so that I have completed Prime and Prime 2 as part of the trilogy released on Wii. I have never managed to complete Prime or Prime 2 on the GC due to struggling with the original's controls. Never played on PC (yet)
Same circumstance.
I had to watch the ending cut scenes for Prime 1 and Prime 2 because I just couldn't beat those games.
Prime 3 was the one I finally pulled through and completed in its entirety.
With Prime 1 I got very far into the game but became lost getting the Chozo artifacts.
In Prime 2 I gave up when I faced this difficult morphball, tunneling puzzel worm-y boss. Tried for hours but just couldn't master it.
I don't think 3 is the best of the trilogy, but if you like 1 and 2 I think there's still a lot here to enjoy! I bounced off it so quick when it released. I just finished the whole trilogy last month and don't understand why I disliked it so much at first. Once you get past the intro it's metroid prime game play all the way! Personally, I don't understand the negative discourse around the ship traveling - it's basically like an elevator at the end of a level that takes you to ANY region. All the prime games have elevators at the end of levels connecting them together - prime 3 just puts your ship there instead.
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I played this game so many times already, yet i somehow only now discovered that you can track Ridley easily through your radar in the top left corner. WHAT
Honestly, i’ve never once paid attention to that in any Prime game LMFAO.
Man.. this game took me a few years to finish, I started it got a bit bored then stopped, and picked it up again back when the wii was already being replaced by the wii u and then finished it... contrary to you its the only metroid game I have finished (besides fusion). Now diving back in to Prime to try and finish it
To this day I'm not 100% sure why I dont like corruption as much as the other 2 primes.
Also since Metroid Prime 4 is going to be released on switch (or switch 2 depending on how much longer we have to wait) it seems inevitable at this point that Retro will make Metroid Prime 4 massively open world like they intended with corruption. I'm open to this as long as it is done well and doesn't take away from the core prime experience.
I really loved this game. Literally bought a Nintendo Wii just to play it, as I had just got into gaming with Prime 2 Echoes a year prior.
The demolition guys are essentially combat engineers. In any standing army they aren't going to be your best armored or trained troops, in terms of combat. That's not their role.
Now, relying on Samus to do all the heavy lifting when you nominally have an army at your disposal IS a legitimate concern, but that's been the case for every interaction Samus has ever had with the federation across all games.
I liked corruption. It did make good use of the wii's motion controllers with the grapple beam and voltage.
Now after the remaster of 1 I can't wait for the other two
MP3 is the only metroid game I've ever finished with 100% items. Obviously it's ridiculously easy to find all the items in this game compared to other Metroid games, but I was still super excited about it. Lol
Great vid, I honestly love what prime 3 brought to the trilogy. Sure, it’s not as maybe atmospheric and gives you that alone feeling the first two do, but man I honestly think prime 3 might have some of the best Metroid moments ever. Great bosses, cool cutscenes and sequences, it sacrificed a lot that made the first two great but did it different enough to make it amazing to me
I love the different planets, gunship use and narrative in this one. I don't like the beams piling especially because the last one makes the player always have the fluo green on display.
Looking at the footage of Metroid Prime 3 without the motion control looks so weird to me, and just proves that yes it is possible to port that game to the Switch.
one thing the game did right, though I did like this game, was the fights against the other bounty hunters especially the one where you fight the shapeshifter which was the most sad one, being that you fight this shapeshifter that she can be anything she wants, and because of Dark Samus you have to kill her. then defeating her you feel the urge of getting revenge from what Samus was forced to do.
Corruption is good as an ending to the phazon story if you want to see what happens. It's also interesting seeing Samus slowly become corrupt. But the game is the least fun entry. It's not because of motion controls for me but it was due to the fact that it was much more crowded with characters and that broke the immersion for me. The technology just wasn't there for so many NPCs to be thrown in.
I swear Imma shed tears when I get my hands on prime 4.
_Corruption_ was the third game I've ever completed 100%, so it does hold a special place in my heart. ^w^
Federation Force is pretty cool, I can assure you that. Such a fun game released in the worst circumstances.
Prime 4 needs to be open world like that new Halo game if it's going to achieve replayable
YEAH BABYYY
Great vid, easy sub from me!
Maybe I'm crazy, but I never felt as attached to the concept of "isolation" in Metroid games as other people seem to, so I very much welcomed the addition of NPCs and a story and all that.
Prime 1 remaster’s control choice’s are 🥇
So if they keep remastering, Playing Prime 3 controls would be godlike!
I loved that game
Skytown is amazing.
Wish someone would talk about Metroid Prime Hunters for the DS. My second Metroid game after 2 on the OG Gameboy, but my favorite. Loved the story of it and that it fit on a DS cartridge.
The multiplayer was pretty good as well. Man, I remember the WiFi lobby in Pokémon platinum. Oh and playing online on Mario Kart DS. Call of Duty World at War DS multiplayer was barebones, but functional.
Also got fond memories of playing online on my Wii. Mario Kart Wii, Smash Bros Brawl, COD MW3, Goldeneye 007 and probably a bunch of other games.
This game got me into the idea of ominous theme music for games before Halo did
corruption is my second favorite in the trilogy. Mostly it's probably nostalgia, part of it not thinking motion controls are the satan, but corruption did what no other prime game did. It connected Samus into the world she's part off. She interacts with her fellow bounty hunters, she feels remorse for letting them die because of the mistakes in mp2.
MP3 just made it clear that she is part of the world.
I've watched your Prime Trilogy retrospective, and while I would probably rate Echoes slightly lower than Corruption personally, I can still respect all three games equally for what they are. And just like you, Phazon threat is ended as the planet Phaaze is no more, it was a done deal.
Pure speculation on my part, but with the confirmation that Sylux was indeed piloting that ship at the end of the hidden ending in Corruption, I have a feeling their direction "may" lean towards the conflicts with that bounty hunter, along with the Galactic Federation and Samus. I have no played Dread as of yet, so I don't know where in the timeline that will fall. I believe it was suppose to take place after Fusion, so at least we do have some cohesion as to how each game places in the timeline of events. (unlike Zelda apparently lol) So, depending on where the game may take place, could also determine planets and enemies we may see.
For example, during the development of Metroid Prime, Kraid was suppose to show up at some point, but due to time constraints, he was cut out completely. I think it would have been awesome to see a full 3D version of Kraid as, at the time, he's been relegated purely 2D inside the Metroid universe (not counting the Smash games, because I am aware Melee does have a 3D Kraid and then the redesign in Ultimate) and we wouldn't get a full 3D version until Dread. So, I wonder if there is some hope that we could see a Meta Kraid perhaps (though highly unlikely at this point), or somehow a return of Mother Brain since those Space Pirates will do anything to gain power.
With all that, I am looking forward to seeing how Prime 4 will fit in with everything and that Nintendo doesn't do a dumb like they have been recently with some things. Metroid Prime is the sole reason I even got into the Metroid franchise in the first place before I went and played the other games (save for Metroid 2... I do have that on the 3DS for its remake, I just haven't had time to play it still, and then Super Metroid, the only two games I've not played to this day) in chronological order and it's amazing to see how things progressed and how Ridley changes throughout each game.
You have his appearances in Metroid, then the Prime trilogy as Meta Ridley as the Space Pirates rebuilt him (and if you notice, his flesh returns slowly with each game), then Metroid 2's remake as Proteus Ridley, and lastly Super Metroid without any cybernetics where he is supposedly defeated once and for all. Of course, this brings in Other M with that clone which always made me wonder if this clone retains any sort of memories of his hate for Samus and as one of the Space Pirate Generals. Overall, I think Ridley has to be one of my favorite bosses of the entire Metroid franchise. Flying dragons have always looked pretty badass IMO.
I look forward to seeing if you'll do other kinds of retrospectives of perhaps other Metroid games. I wouldn't blame you if you didn't do Other M for any reason, that game is by far the weakest of them all and completely subverts who Samus actually is. While I would have liked to see Samus' history in the Galactic Federation, Other M just really wasn't the way to do it and I honestly don't know what Team Ninja was thinking. Mechanically, the game is fine and I think the gameplay was alright. But the story and how it was told just downplays Samus' personality and making her seem like a meek woman or something when this is anything but the case. (the Metroid Manga, which predates the first game, is a really good read that sets up how she trained with the Chozo and the K-2L incident as well)
Dread takes place after Fusion in the timeline. Since the Prime trilogy takes place between Metroid 1 and 2, I could see them occupying that space in the timeline with Prime 4, but that wouldn’t be my personal preference. I’d actually like for Prime 4 to take place after Dread, since both Prime 3 and Dread kind of tie up their respective timelines. Prime 4 could help to evolve both. Also, please play Super Metroid and Dread! They’re great.
I bought Prime 3 on day 1, even though I hadn't finished 2 yet 😅
I have beat them all since. Really got an inch to do it all again
Can't go wrong replaying any of these games. Prime Remastered is a great excuse!
Yeah the multi-planetary set up is an awesome idea, that was executed underwhelmingly. I still think that the lack of large chamber rooms with multiple branching tunnels at different heights hurt the exploration in this game. It's why I view Prime 1 and Echoes as 10's, and this game as a 9.
A lot of your critiques of the game were on point. I understand your dislike of how the planets were structured, but they were the best aesthetically in the entire series.
I hope Prime 4 does a good job of building Sylux up as a rival. I don't really get why people were drawn to him after his debut in Metroid Prime Hunters. I would hate to see Sylux treated like Raven Beak was in Dread, where you only interact once at the beginning and never again until the end of the game.
Good retro, but not using the pointer controls is criminal. That's the reason why I liked Metroid Prime 3 over 1 & 2 initially. Best aiming on a console, and the 60FPS helped as well.
Mouse and keyboard may make the game easier, but they’re in a league of their own when it comes to comfort and enjoyment.
What didnt beat it????. This is a new idea to me im definitely watching this vid. I agree with the back tracking in the magma area.
Check my Zone of ender vids. You heard of Zone of the enders. Its my all time fav
Cool video trilogy! Honestly, while the final boss of 3 was kind of a let down gameplay wise, I do like how the AUs look similar to Mother Brain, and it feels fitting how the final boss of the original trilogy would be a Mother Brain like boss.
I still feel sorry for poor Federation Force. When I was getting back into Nintendo games, I decided to pick up FF to play with some buddies on the Metroid Discord, and honestly, aside from the fact it's on the 3DS, it was a really fun and cool co op game! Not a great Metroid game per se, but for a spin off game that uses Prime's awesome shooting, it was great in its own regards there.
I really think they should have announced that game alongside Samus Returns or some form of major main line entry first and foremost, as announcing it after so much time passed since Other M was a genuinely terrible idea. Right now for Prime 4, I've been suspecting for awhile we might be having another BotW/Twilight Princess situation, and the game might become a cross generational title or just be a launch title for whatever Nintendo's next system is gonna be.
Here's hoping Retro does great by the end with it!
Thank you! I’d be interested in checking out Federation Force some day, but that’s probably way off in the future. I would love if they positioned Prime 4 as a launch title for the next gen system, maybe then the Metroid series would finally sell well. Regardless, the game will be great!