The Troubled Development of Tomb Raider
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Previous title: The Two Sides of Tomb Raider.
A look back at the creation of the Tomb Raider franchise, the classic games, the studio behind it and how it all turned into insanity and burned to the ground in the span of a few years. Trying something a bit different leaning more into the documentary style instead of just reviewing the games from a retrospective point of view.
Although the chapters of this video are not really divided on a 'per game' basis, some of you may still prefer to watch it that way (or have that reference) so here are the timestamps for each game.
Intro: (0:00)
Tomb Raider I: (1:22)
EIDOS/Marketing gets Involved (15:14)
Tomb Raider II: (19:20)
Tomb Raider III: (32:31)
Film Industry gets Involved (47:34)
Tomb Raider IV The Last Revelation: (50:58)
Tomb Raider V Chronicles: (1:04:57)
Tomb Raider VI Angel of Darkness: (1:12:39)
Conclusion: (1:26:43)
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Wow developers were so sick and burned out what they secretly wrote an ending to kill Lara off just so they stop making games about her. Just amazing. I also love how they talked about it with such an enthusiasm lmao.
Like Conan Doyle trying to kill of Sherlock Holmes, with same result.
I like the guy that when asked if he dreams of Lara he just said "no" as if anything relating to her was his hell and he couldn't wait to go to bed and dream about literally anything else.
Are uncharted and tomb Raider related because they as I can tell making similar games but now uncharted release maybe for the first time a game call lost legacy which really reminds me of TB 2 females in a jungle of India for treasures in similar game play and kinda stoeies.I know that's there is only so many games played style of games but this game maybe as well be a called tomb Raider friend's game adventure one thing maybe more shooting here he is a character from the uncharted games now getting own 9 chapter show game play.I like looks great in own way so wondered if they making or related and if they paid to do own games even though
Uncharted out 2007 to 2016 TR way earlier and TR re boot 2013 2018 is similar to uncharted either way I have alot multiple
That was very mysogynistic of them. The byzantine empire would not be proud. But america would! Proudest nation on planet earth, or in other words the- _this comment has been restricted_
Tomb raider can be so much more... but like many other titles the rights are owned by bonoboes who haven't increased anything but graphics in a literal decade
as a huge tomb raider fan, i didn't realise how bad things were for the development team. i knew they wanted to kill her at 4 but i didn't realise 5 was created with resentment and frustration. cannot wait for part 2.
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@@josephwatkins527 I'm assuming by part 2 he means the Tomb Raider series as it continued with Legend and onward. There are still 6 Tomb Raider games that aren't covered by this video. Legend, Anniversary, Underworld, the 2013 reboot, Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. More than enough material to make a part 2 to this video.
@@Xylarxcode now I wonder how they felt with the 2 reboots
@@MLU8811on youtube?
@@josephwatkins527We're probably getting a third one. The 2013 one failed because the Prachett team were unable to write their own story with Lara because of manbaby fans. Like Kevin Smith and his Heman reboot
Not exactly Tomb Raider fan, but I certainly dig her original, sharper design in concepts. Bit stylised, round glasses and that cheesy 90s attitude just fitted better for this tomb raidering business. The original lore for her becoming adrealine addict after accident is surprisingly good backstory for simple setting and didn't really need anything more.
Spot on. Well, they have to just overcomplicate everything including development studios. Too many damn people when it should be like a handful.
@@karnagefails333Classic “Can’t Leave This One Alone” Syndrome. Some things deserves exploration (What inspired Henry Jones Junior to actually become Indiana Jones), some things are ripe for a great story (Remembrance of the Daleks answering the question of what exactly the Doctor was doing at the junkyard in An Unearthly Child before his granddaughter’s teachers came in) and a lot of things are better off left as a mystery (Too many to name).
Her original design was awesome and the new one can't hold a candle to it. She was a badass and an icon of female power. The new version is a boring sap.
@@gorgolytEver considered Tomb Raider: UnderWorld’s failures that led to the reboot to become a trilogy…!?
@@fernie-fernandez Depends because you can also consider the reboot a failure in terms of nobody really gives a crap about the new Lara anymore and she's just seen as a Nathan Drake wannabe. She wasn't even invited to the Who's who party of Super Smash. Sure you can bring in the "sales" of the reboot even though the free / 100% discount sales are also counted as a sale.
This video is a masterpiece. As a person who has been a fan of Tomb Raider for over twenty years, this was eye opening and definitely very informative. Even though I don't think the new trilogies will be such development rabbit holes as the old games, please do part two.
It's not a masterpiece. It's a hitpiece. The only good stuff was exposing edios horrendous exploitation but the dude had nothing but negative things to say about tomb raiders gameplay
For me, Lara Croft is supposed to be as reckless as Indiana Jones and as fierced as Bettie Page. It is this mixture of personality.
She is a sophisticated upper class british women, a female James Bond.
A pretty good way to describe Lara.
Yes! I completely agree! My favourite Lara was the pre-2006 Lara.
@@NizarNoorIt would've been nice if Classic Lara was Reboot Lara's canon mom.
Which was awesome in the 90’s, she really broke the glass ceiling of what female characters could be.
20+ years later however it’s too surface level and comes off as shallow.
@@kjh4496 No, 20+ years later OG Lara is still as revolutionary as she used to be and we have regressed to the point where fiction with that kind of money behind it isn't allowed to have a protagonist like Lara Croft in it.
Good god, I feel bad for the developers. Hearing how ruthless the publisher was, is something else. I never realized that the game industry being so messed up extended that far back. He'll they even had annual releases that were later made famous by Ubisoft. The developers definitely have my respect for still putting out quality games, even in that environment. That's something that doesn't really happen now.
It's always been a problem. Atari wouldn't give programmers credit. EA and Activision (80s Activision todays Activision is in name only) were both founded by disgruntled Atari employees that wanted credit and creative freedom.
This is just what it takes to develop new software. It's why salaries are generally far higher than average. Don't like it, do something else.
@@NemesisOgreKing And now, EA and Activision stopped making really good games and became one of the greediest game companies ever.
Well with Ubisoft, it was very different. At first they started small, sure, but as they grew larger, they handed difficult projects to different branches rather than having one small group do everything at the same time. This gave Ubisoft the ability to get each game (more or less) complete each and every year they released a new one.
With CORE, they not only had yearly release mandates, but were also a small team splitting focus among both Tomb Raider and other games as well, rather than putting all their manpower into one or two specific games or game series.
Steve of Warr actually did an interview with someone who worked at CORE Design and worked on all six CORE games, and he laments that they worked on multiple things at once, rather than working on just Tomb Raider. That, and not pushing back against Eidos during the Angel of Darkness production.
@@peachesandcream22 Inevitability. The biggest companies always get bought out one way or another and sucked dry by soulless corporate shills who have no intent other than to make the easiest money sat on their arses doing nothing whilst the engineers do all the work. Every industry ever, but ESPECIALLY the games industry since it was always a new, evolving medium constantly changing.
This is some TOP TIER content. Well researched, amazing editing, impeccable flow.. thank you for this gem.
This is so well made it could be a Netflix documentary
Pfff Netflix could never
@@adoptedbyangelinajolie true dat
that is an insult, not a compliment
@@EffigyyIt's a matter of speech I don't even watch Netflix docs but judging from the comments here I won't even try
I got the point man :) You're right @@mrk-ism
The ultimate lesson here is that greed is one of the biggest killers of creativity. If the developers had been given the time to work on their products without being crushed under ridiculous, repeated deadlines and unrealistic expectations from shareholders and publishing executives (most of whom had probably never played a videogame in their lives, let alone tried to create one), then burnout and disillusionment - and hence substandard products - wouldn't have been an issue.
A really interesting video. Bravo for putting it all together (and shoutout to the cameo of Murti Schofield's website, which I helped build xD).
But i also guess that keeping push the devolopers to make more and more and a vital need, Just think about how much expensive must be Run a studio.
About all the taxes plus all the cost, risk and the salary from all the employer, was economy possibly speend much making a game?
Yep, I think you guys are both correct. It's definitely bad when publishers put developers through unreasonable demands and timelines with only the maximization of profit in mind. But thinking that you will strike gold simply by letting the devs cook whatever for however long it takes is also a trap. You'll burn all your money and have an unfinished product you can't sell. Greed is a killer of creativity, sure. But in my experience, creativity needs its time, and time is money. They kill each other.
lol, it’s ten time worse now. Look at all the mediocre games that are released all the time. All the franchises are dead
This is a thing in industries that involve digital products. Heads of the companies who have not the slightest idea of how things are done and how realistic their requests are.
Same thing happened with Cyberpunk 2077 it's honestly insane.
Please do a part 2 Marco, would love the see and hear the stories of the development cycle for both the Crystal Dynamics reboot trillogy and the new Squire Enix trillogy. Keep up the good work.
same
yesss really
everytime i hear stories about the development of Tomb Raider, it was always about the funny anecdote like the accidental size of her 'ballistic', the slow butler, and the nude code. Never knew about how Eidos basically f**ked the creator, the developer, and Lara herself.
Amazing videos and i would love a 2nd part, because the Legends Trilogy by Crystal Dynamics were my first experience with the franchise.
Honestly, I do feel for the developers, but despite it all, I adore the last three installments. I hold them near and dear to my heart and love replaying them. Despite the criticism and negative feedback from so many people - I think the games are genuinely amazing.
same. I do believe most fans of the first 3 still hold 4,5,+6 near and dear, we were just really disappointed in the end result. Hindsight being 20/20, I get the feeling the OG fans would still choose those last three over the 2 reboots we got. The Core developers truly loved Lara, they just hated how they were treated by Eidos. I just want a developer who truly loves Lara for what she was originally rather than pandering to this insane need to make the most well established female gaming character completely unrecognizable in both looks and behavior bc it make her “nicer and more relatable” to our current society.
why? the new games suck, they made her just some boring horse girl that looks like a taylor swift fan.
@@melindamercier6811 No, the games are woke. End of story.
You like woke stuff?
Marco, the quality of these videos is absurdly high. Congrats on the improvement of your editing skills my man!
Awesome to see you do so well homie. Cheers!
Thanks man, trying to really up the quality with each of these. glad it shows.
Damn I loved TR1, I Was a teenager when it came out and never seen a girl in a game other than barbie. As a girl meself I wanted action games and excitement and TR gave me the feeling I was the girl in the game! It was such an awesome feeling at the time because there had been nothing else like it. Shame it was butchered by the damn corporates. I hope one day Lara finds her true calling in games again.
I almost though for a second that maybe there is a remastered TR1 version or something! That would be awesome 🙂 by the way AMAZING work @marco
These long form videos are massively underrated. I hope they blow up and you get the recognition you deserve. Job well done.
I prefer longform vids.
Same. Long form videos are much more entertaining than a cliff notes tiktok.
long form? In THIS economy!? Good luck haha
what makes you say that other than other people not knowing what underrated means
It’s honestly crazy to think about just how long the shitty business practices of game publishers have been going on. The fact that crunch of this level and general treatment of developers have been going on since these games of the late 90’s is just…fuck. Not to mention how yearly release schedule games were *already* destroying series. Sucks that it doesn’t show much sign of changing these days either.
I honestly think it was worse in the 90's, because you *could not* release bug fixes or even communicate with your audience. It was burned into a disk and any hidden bugs still left were set in stone forever.
Valve seems to be an exception as they are not publicly traded nor slave driven by a short sighted publisher
How could you swear without getting your comment shadowbanned? 😱
This should've hit a miillion already, insanely well researched, sourced and edited
Love this new style of content from you. Not to mention the editing, graphics work is super impressive.
I miss the retro Lara Croft tbh. She will never be replaced in our hearts
Yeah, she had a lot of HEART. The new Lara had BUDGET CUTS.
@@DarkEnigma1115 YES SIR!
I mean.. it was the 90's. Times change
You mean.. you miss the REAL LARA.
i dont miss those weird controls and bad camera angles
What impresses me even until today is the quality of animations. Her movement always felt grounded, heavy and believable, compared to how arcadey most games where back in the 90ies. The animations where so good they could even carry them over to the current 1-3 remakes just with a better model slapped on. No rework needed for them since they still work today. It even has dynamic foot placement on steps and inverted kinematics for the arms individually pointing at enemies, ... which was way ahead of its time.
This video was so interesting and so well made... i keep comming back every week or so waiting for it's sequel.
Fantastic job, buddy
Never played Tomb Raider. Never watched Tomb Raider. Still watched the whole thing. Seeing you evolve over the years and expand into heavily-researched, beautifully arranged video essays like this has been special. One day you'll get the recognition you deserve.
The classic Tomb Raider games are definitely worth the play, if you can ignore the blocky graphics and clunky gameplay on the platforming aspects, then yeah Tomb Raider back then was a enjoyable experience.
I do hope someday we will see the original Tomb Raider design in a remade classics over the rebooted Tomb Raider.
The new trilogy are well worth playing if you like action adventure puzzle games with a slight puzzle box world motif (think more Dark Souls unlocking new areas and less Breath of the Wild). The gunplay is better than the first 3 Uncharteds and way better than The Last of Us series. The original TR games don't hold up at all and the first reboot trilogy is a gibberish story with bad acting.
Together with all the flaws they had, the games before reboot have aged very poorly. I am not blaming them - the first one was ground breaking and, as such, you can't expect peak quality of the genre. The first reboot I actually return to every few years, for me they are the 'best' games - that is, if you can stand two decades old games at best. For me 3D from the nineties is now a no-no, but the second half of '00 are ok. Now, TR was never the best action games, and CD had certainly reduced the difficulty threshold *a lot*, comparing to things like Revelations, so if you expect it to hold solely on game play like Dark Souls, give them a pass. But if you are a great Indiana Jones fan, than, frankly there is next to nothing that evokes those vibes, aside from uncharted (which comes with its own problems). I put 'games like Tomb Raider' into google countless times by now, so I'd know.
@@Siranoxz The terrible controls is a hard thing to ignore.
Damn that's a crime
I grew up playing the franchise and I always love seeing documentaries on it. I'd say it was a good call to separate the "survivor trilogy" into a second part because those games and an entirely different animal. and all this from the guy that taught me how skill haste works in a looter shooter 6 years ago. You've come a long way.
It's criminal how Eidos treated the franchise. I don't even hate Disney more for what they did to SW.
wow, the editing here is absolutely gorgeous!
Wow! Just wow! This video is so well-made and well researched, not to mention the quality of the editing is also great. So, thank you for this very entertaining 1-hour video, man. I really hope you continue this until the end with Part 2 as I really enjoy watching it in one sitting.
As usual, absolutely incredible script and editing and telling a terrific story.
Looooove long deep dive videos like this one. My dad introduced me to TR as a child, since he had been a long-time fan of the franchise. He's a completionist so he used to print guides he found online lol. I only played TR Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld on my PSP though. So many of the levels are still so memorable to me that I can just see them, it's so nostalgic! I also used to be obsessed with exploring Lara's mansion, doing the gym thing countless times, and ofc trying on all the outfits,,,,, she made me Feel Things lol.
I played the Survivor trilogy last year which I really enjoyed, especially Rise. I'm still obsessed with Lara and her clothes and I'm still in love with her. I've also become a completionist oop. Would love to see part 2!!
Same!!
You should replay them on PC they look so good or if you can't play them on PS3 or Xbox 360 to get the tomb raider experience, my favorite TR game is Legend and Anniversary
Yes the outfits were sooo fun in Legend, I loved when games didn't take themselves so seriously, like how the survivor trilogy is boring to me because they try to make everything "realistic" which takes the fun out of the games
Hi I'm from Brazil.
I wanted to congratulate you on the unbelievable quality of editing and timing of this video.
Seriously, this was the best video I've ever seen of any game ever covered.
The editing is perfect, the phrases fit very well with the scenes.
CONGRATULATIONS!
My favourite video from you yet. Def the best of your new format. I never expected these insane backstories behind all those games. Far Cry, Tomb Raider, CoD Zombies, ... keep it up. Really enjoying the new format
I only seen this one, but now I have to go check his other videos about those games, such good content
Holy- the quality of the editing is keeping my eyes glued to the screen, and the content itself is so intriguing in itself too - incredible stuff, im in awe
Big TR fan! I love how you incorporate the clips & art into gameplay. This is some next level work, I've never seen documentary style like this, & I'm here for it ❤
Fantastic watch, Marco -- the documentary feeling and joining you on the trip down the rabbit hole that is the tomb raider spiral was excellent. Definitely looking forward to a part 2! 🔥
Everything about this video is great. The thumbnail drew me in after the algorithm placed it in front of me. The pacing & flow is pretty good to keep you engaged, and there's the right amount of depth to the information given. I eagerly await a part 2!
I've never come across your videos before but I am glad that this is the first one I've watched. It's really well put together and I'm left with wanting more! impatiently waiting for part 2! Keep up the good work!
I finished the video and scrolled down expecting like...5 million views or something. This very thorough and polished look-back of a video is criminally underrated. Good job bro.
REALLY great video man. Really love the deep dive into the development and such. Looking forward to that part two!
The quality of this video is insane, I’ve never clicked on subscribe that fast before, keep up the good work man
Brad, this is an absolute joy to watch. As a lifelong Tomb Raider fan and growing up on the old games I have literally scoured the internet and watched countless retrospectives and videos on the development and history of the games and company. I also happened to get very into the division 1 pvp back in 2016 and your once i found your guides i was hooked on your content as it was just so well laid out. You have improved your content quality so damn much man, this is easily one of my favourite videos on this platform and I cannot wait for part 2.
This is such a phenomenal video essay. It feels like a true documentary in every sense of the word. The editing, transitions, script, and especially tracking visuals or whatever is relevant into the in-game footage is all utilized perfectly. I can't give enough praise to the overall experience as a viewer. I'm sure this kind of content takes so much time and preparation, and I'm very thankful that you put this together for all of us. This is the type of content that I wish I could give more likes because it deserves it. Genuinely wishing you the best of luck on your future projects.
What an amazing video! Well researched, clear and to the point communication, and you keep things interesting with tons of cool details. Cannot wait for the next one! ❤
I thoroughly enjoyed this and clearly you put one heck of a lot of work into it. Top quality, well done!
I recently discovered your channel and been thoroughly enjoying your style of video essay. Looking forward to all future videos!
Dude, this video is amazing. Great editing and great commentary. Don't be let down if you don't get many views, the franchise is not in your highest point at the moment, but I will certainly recommend to everyone who has interest. You deserve.
Great video. You clearly spent a lot of time researching this topic and I learned a lot from your efforts. Thank you for unfolding the Tomb Raider story. I eagerly look forward to the second part of the Tomb Raider documentary.
Thank you for putting this great documentary together! Getting hyped for the 1-3 relaunch! ❤
This was really well done! I especially liked that you made the effort to animate the blocky environments and that you were mentioning and showing tools and letting level designers speak.
Great work!
The quality is insane. Can't wait til you grow big and get your deserved audience. Looking forward to part 2!
This was so incredibly made I can't believe I had the privilege to watch it on youtube for free. Subscribed
This retrospective was very well made and the editing was sublime.
This is well put together and edited well, great work . Big Lara fan and its nice seeing her get shine
you da best, Marco
big fan of this video style. Was a lot to digest but I found myself coming back to finish it.
Looking forward to what’s next!
Incredible editing on this! I feel you presented info in a great format, thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Man... I absolutely loved this video. Thank you for your time and effort sir. I am a huge TR fan, ever since I played my first TR game back when it was released. I have played every single one. I had no Idea this was happening on the dev side, even though I felt all the effects on the player side and everything makes total sense now.
Hope you release part 2 soon
Love your documentsaries! The quality really is on top
watched every minute and am perplexed that this solo youtuber can now entertain me better than all of Hollywood. You are criminally Underrated.
Even if some of what he said about playing it safe was absolute nonsense. The reboots took many risks with survival before that was a huge thing, great dlc tombs to add life to the game etc.
Generally they offered great value for money for AAA game unlike most AAA games today that launch as a broken mess.
Ooh this was a great watch. The game footage and renders were such a treat. I hope for part 2 for sure!
Such a great video. I can't imagine the work put into this project. Hoping to see part 2 soon.
the amount of memes you put into each section is insane, and very funny ! love your long videos. i hope this video blows up and get to millions and millions of views
Incredible music taste for the transitions. Dope video bro, learned a lot 🔥🔥
This video is like a fascinating and informative journey in the Playstation one era. The quality is outstanding. Bravo Marco and thank you.
We for sure need part 2 of this video! Thanks for this incredible work 😁👍🏼
Outstanding work, truly. TR was one of a few staples I played during those years. I clearly recall my reactions to each installment, which dwindled in pretty much the way this video describes them. That culminated in just abandoning AoD partway through, it was so bad. At least now I have more insight into why. Look forward to Part II but, as I've never been tempted to try a TR game since the move to Crystal, it's only because you do such a great job with topics like this.
Wow this video felt like it flew by. I really enjoyed it, I’ve barely got into the Tomb Raider Franchise with TR 2013 and Rise but this video made me really want to go back and play the older games.
Awesome job! I loved this and I hope for a part 2 video!
This is such a well produced video. Had me hooked the whole way through. Well done
This review is like visiting a museum of a long lost art. Loved it. Hope I could see part two on crystal dynamics games and part three on newer ones. Thank you for all the work you put into this one regardless!
Both Lau and Survivor were made by Crystal Dynamics tho? (with different publishers) So there are supposed to be only two parts?
Great deep dive, Marco. I am super happy you're still making content and didn't throw in the towel when Destiny wasn't doing it for you anymore.
I didn't know any of this was going on behind the scenes at Core. Goes to show you how game devs really need a union. The level of work these devs were made to endure was insane.
Such an amazing and thorough documentation, I loved it. We need part 2 pleaaase 🙏🙏
That was a great video! Very interesting and I'm looking forward to delving into your other stuff!
Please make Part 2. This was so well done.
I am so glad you have explored different route for your creativity. Your halo reach forge video was the one that made me truly take in your editing and storytelling style.
Thank you for this, amazing stuff.
super excited for a part II of this amazing piece of work. Thank You so much for this love this different content from you, but still an original The Division viewer and subscriber :)
Awesome documentary. Well done! And it looks stunning. So much love in the details of fonts etc. AWESOME!
Can’t wait for part 2, I love video game essays like that.
What you're doing with these docseries is unparalleled dude.
Just awesome stuff man.
very nice documentary man! i love the style and i can see the love and dedication was put into it. keep up the good work
This was a nostalgia trip that hit right in the feels. Great video!
I rarely buy AAA games since I can't keep up with modern hardware so the latest Tomb Raider trilogy (well the first two games anyway) hold a special place in my heart. Thoroughly enjoyed those especially the second.
My wifes uncle worked on Angel of Darkness. He was an artist and he built and textured the Parisian Ghetto. A lot of family photos were used as set dressing and even family names used for shop names! He left his signature in Carviers apartment. A box of 'Wayno's' cereal in the kitchen.
He told me a few stories about his time working on the game, real horror stories. We still have the AOD style guide that he pinched when Core was sold off and dissolved. We did have a replica Kurtis shirt signed by Core staff along with loads of other merch but all got lost along the way somewhere. Tragic.
im glad to see you making this kind of content, dude, hope its been a good path for you!
Yessssssss, another quality Marco Style video, these have outstanding quality!!!
Jesus christ man, the production level is among the best I have ever seen, tbh I started watching the video just in the background, and soon I just been floored by the level of quality yiu've produced, first time on your channel and already subscribed. Amazing work
Impressive work on this video. This is one of those times we're part 2 is warranted
This video is SPECTACULAR! Information, narration, script, pacing, editing.. It's like a movie or a documentary, you're so hooked you don't wanna stop! Hopefully there's a part 2 covering LAU and maybe the relaunch.
I've started my TR journey with TR 2013 reboot on PS3, then checked out Anniversary "remaster" or whatever it is (loved it), and actually enjoyed Angel of Darkness with community patches on PC. Also dipped my toes in the PS Vita homebrew port of Tomb Raider 1 which was very nice.
I never had any interest in TR before my older brother introduced me to TR 2013, but after that I just had to see what came before it - and I've never experienced a more satisfying movement system than what the classic TR games offered. It was jank at times, but so satisfying to figure out and master. I wish more "modern" games offered such depth of movement.
It's not depth, it's just stiff. You can't tell me it has more depth than Mario 64's movement or the new TR games ftm. They're smooth and actually intuitive and there's so much more you can do in terms of climbing and traversing.
@@Parker-- While it's true that original Tomb Raider's controls aren't anywhere as smooth as in Mario 64 or the new TR entries, that doesn't mean that there isn't any depth at all. Just like in those other games, in early TR there are plenty of situations where you can get to the same place by utilizing different moves - just like in the games you've mentioned.
At the end of the day, it's a matter of personal preference more than anything - many consider old TR controls outdated and "stiff" as you said, and many others still enjoy them to a great degree.
I'm not trying to make anyone like the old controls or dissuade them from enjoying what the like in other games. :)
If you liked Anniversary you'll like Legend and Underworld
I come from a time where more or less every game had a completely different control scheme. Some of it worked some of it didn't, some of them fitted your personal preference some of it didn't. But what it meant was that every game offered you unique new gameplay to experience. Classic Tomb Raider games did that.
Contrast that to most modern gaming where it doesn't matter whether you are playing Tomb Raider, Uncharted, GTA or Assasins Creed... it all controls the same making you feel like you are playing the same game over and over with just another skin on top.
... so it isn't even that much about "depth of movement". Lara's classic controls are simple and predictable and they work really well with the type of game the original Tomb Raider is.
(as is mentioned in this video, as they moved away from the grid based environments into full 3D environments with Angel of Darkness that control scheme stopped making sense)
He is alive guyz
The legend
who is this man? landed in my algorithm lol
@hundkebab2433 youtuber who covered division and destiny and quit then both for long form content and now barely uploads
@@eranronen573He is a shade of a past time. Legends say that he appeared around the 7th Generation of game consoles. But there are some accounts that can be tracked all the way back to the foundation of mankinds history!
Stop lying
This was a fantastic behind-the-scenes retrospective. 👏
Hoping to see you cover more games in the future.
Amazing video! Loved TR4. Enjoyed every second of the video, thanks for that.❤
Freakin' hell Marco I was just thinking back to TR1 last night and how awesome it was back in the day, wishing for a 21st century remake of the 3 originals (give or take the third game as the first two were the best imo) then you came along with this video!? Awesome, just awesome, and lovely editing too.
TR 3 was just as good as TR 1 & TR 2. Most see third game as "more of the same". There were some good ideas and improvements but, it wasn't put there in your face. So most don't notice them.
Well the first 3 are getting a Switch remaster now.
I rarely comment but this vid was so well put together, edited, researched and presented how could I know comment to boost engagement! I've been in the TR community for years now and watched so many retrospectives, reviews and analysis vids and thought I knew all there was so know. This is the first video essay in a long while now to have shown me a whole other side of the franchise. To think people have touched on the conditions of the classic games for the developers but never in this detail. I can't believe I never knew just how horrific their life was during the time working on this project 😮 really draws a contrast on those of us that still love and appreciate the crystal dynamic time line of games but to know all this about the core team and their struggles and burn out makes me appreciate the growth of tomb raiders identify so much more but in a darker light given the history that was really there
Never watched steve of war have u?
Congratulations man, one of the best essay/documentary about games I have ever watch, and I'm glad to see how you prioritize the developers words, there experiences and how all production cicle impact people live,the end product and the series, thanks for delivery a piece of midia that cares abou the working class.
Pleas,e bring to us a part 2 !!!!!!!!!!
Although I knew a lot of the TR story, I really enjoyed watching this upload with all the information edited together. I can only imagine how much time and research it took to make this upload. Appreciated. 👍
I just really wanna say that these types of videos are the ones that will become recommended and what people (judging by the views on other videos) really come for this channel, including myself. I hope you dont get indimidated by the length of the videos, like you said in the Far Cry video about it being 2 and a half hours, but thats what I really enjoy, and feel like many more do as well.
Honestly, I'm never going to play these games but have always been kind of interested. This gives me exactly what I want. You (and anybody you might have had working on the video) did a really good job putting this together and I'm really impressed by a lot of the editing skills on display here, *especially* the stuff that looks lthe games themselves were edited.
With older games like this, it's important to put them in a proper historical context if you want to cover them properly, and you did a great job with that. On top of that, I very much appreciated the way that you put the focus on the developers and what they had to go through to get these games out of the door on a yearly basis. I don't really have any negative feedback, and as a person who discovered your content with this video, I'm looking forward to whatever you make next.
Great video, very informative ! I had no idea these games suffered so many issues, they were a big part of my childhood. Waiting eagerly for part 2 !
This was a enjoyable watch. Please do part 2.
It was "arguably" the biggest achievement for its time". What? There is nothing "arguably" about it, this game was MASSIVE. It changed the video game industry and the first time I played it, it made my jaw drop. Games, today, can't do that anymore. The fog to hide draw distance and black skybox, I always felt, added to the atmosphere instead of detract from it. It definitely made open areas such as lost valley or colosseum look "bigger". I would take a burnout any day for a few hundred thousand dollar in royalties. "It starts off in a long corridor that wants to kill you and it only gets harder from there", this is false. Most of the game is actually easier than the first level. It takes a decent while for anything to match the opening gauntlet. But we did have a "Tomb Raider 2.5", it was called "The Golden Mask". TR1 also had a gold version with new levels.
As a Tomb Raider fan since I was young this was an amazing video to watch. Amazing work with the script and editing ❤
AWESOME video! You should definetly make a part 2 💪 Congrats for the GREAT work
This is quite literally one of the best retrospective like review videos I've ever seen felt like I was watching a documentary
The quality of this video is a masterpiece in itself.