Lidl Parkside Inverter Welder/TIG Welder PTMI 180A1 unboxing, test welds and review
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
- On Thursday the 4th of August I bought a Lidl Parkside Inverter Welder/TIG Welder PTMI 180A1 and here is my unboxing video, with welding tests with TIG on steel and stainless steel and a test weld on thick steel with a 4 mm welding rod.
The adaptor I used was BOC stock number 6355,
See here:
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Also this one looks right to:
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0:00 Introduction
0:19 Unboxing
1:44 Problem with the lead and solution
2:33 Finishing unboxing
4:32 The TIG Torch
7:36 A regulator for the welder
8:28 Problem with the gas connection and its solution
10:02 Preparation of metal to be welded
10:35 Grinding the tungsten electrode
13:57 Back from Lidl with a new welder
14:40 Showing how to tighten the regulator fittings and setting flow rate
16:15 Adjusting the welder settings
17:23 Safety notes
18:26 TIG welding mild steel 3mm thick
20:16 Showing the weld
20:46 TIG welding 1.2 mm stainless steel
23:45 Showing the stainless steel weld
24:05 welding stainless steel pipe badly
26:35 welding stainless steel pipe
31:26 Showing the weld on stainless steel pipe
33:05 TIG Welding 1mm mild steel sheet
37:40 Showing the result
39:13 TIG welding a thin stainless steel corner
43:20 Showing the result
44:21 Arc MMA Welding 1/2 inch steel plate with a 4mm rod
46:40 Showing the result
48:40 An explanation of how the settings work
49:52 Conclusion - Jak na to + styl
great info Ben, if your needing for a tig. thanks for sharing
cheers
kev
Many thanks! It's also a good arc welder too! (Once I had worked out the menu)
Thanks for watching!
Cheers for the video. I done a course on Tig welding yesterday. I spotted a few flaws. You're using zero ventilation. You need a strong extractor. Can build your own yes. But adjustable so it's above you. You want 12-18 inch distance from your face. You do NOT want these fumes in your body. If you can taste it STOP! you shouldn't be able to taste it. Also, yes, you should have a welding / suitable coat/top. Tig is not easy! But I was getting there. One thing.. Your primary hand holding the Tig, the filler you use in the other hand. To bind the ends to hold you don't need the filler. Your Tig hand isn't stable.. you're shaking everywhere, you need about 30 degrees angle, and you (I found) should be about 5 mm from the surface, you're too high. You'll burn through / warp. It's a big learning curve. But I was getting there through listening and practice. This welder is called a scratch welder, I was using a frequency Tig welder. It was definitely easier, but the parkside one is a scratch, so immediately you're contaminating the tip. Turn your angles so you're welding straight, don't turn your body to find the joint. See at 30:00 plus. Your approach angle and vision angle is all wrong. You'll tire, you need something to rest on. But remember the 30 degree. Otherwise, not a bad video. I just wanted to see if these things are any good even to home the skills. Also, when you're tightening the tungsten.. push it too far out. Approach the table surface about 30 degrees, the cup and tip should just be touching the surface, now tighten the tungsten in place. Now you have the prefect spot to create the clean arch.
The door (4 feet by 6 feet) and windows are open. No, you can't taste the welding.
It isn't a scratch start, it's a lift TIG welder.
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@@BensWorkshop oh, a lift Tig? I was advised there were 2 kinds . Scratch Tig and frequency Tig. The frequency Tig I was using has a switch where you had a rotate valve. I looked up your video to see if these 'cheap' rigs were any good. There's a few things I wanted make and not spend a grand to then start. I'd rather practice / get good then go from there. What I had learned was you do NOT want a draft / breeze. It blows away the gas. So you need a calm environment. Which is why I'd suggest a descent extractor, some flex ducting and a fix positioned inlet. Picture a mic stand. Again, zero hating on your video, I'm just trying to advise if you didn't realise yourself. At one point I totally understood what the cent did, he left it off for a few minutes and I could start to taste it. It lingered. Once vent back on.. sorted. And in regards to the tips he was doing the same. Using a sand/grinder. I asked about a tool and he said absolutely, but it's £1200 for it lol just to sharpen the tips. So what's a lift Tig? Is it just another name for scratch? So you make contact to spark then it activates?
You don't want to do it on a windy day, but it works. I've also ad to do a lot of MIG welding outside. Lift TIG fires when it detects a contact brake, unlike scratch TIG.
HF start is better, usually they have a trigger switch. You can but a DC set for anywhere from £150 up, for example the Röhr HP-160L TIG/ARC 2 in 1 Welder at £169.99.
Haven't tried one though. Thinking about getting an AC/DC set which will also do aluminium but costs a lot more.
If you are only doing steels, copper etc, DC is fine. The biggest thing you need is practice. I buy scrap materials which is very cheap and allows me as much practice as I need. Hope that helps.
Incidentally, I do have most of the bits I need to fit extraction, which is much more important for arc welding, and will be posting a video. The system will have set me back around £20 to £30 at most when done. I will post a video though it will probably not be for a few months. If that interests you, subscribe!
Hello Ben,
An interesting and informative video, thank you. You reminded me that I should try my little welder...
Take care.
Paul,,
Many thanks! Yes, welding is good fun, just needs practice!
I wish to invest my self a tig welding, When I ever need tig welding I always end up going to a shop. Looks reasonable for a hobbiest workshop. Thank very much for making the timeline with titles,. Thank you ben.
As a hoobiest starter machine I think it's quite good. The issue is then getting the gas and regulator and connecting them.
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@@BensWorkshop thats the most thing that holds me. The rent or anually cylinder service test for the cylinder tank.
@@enginelover1 Yes, I got one with a deposit only.
Great vid Ben, warts n' all. I've had two welders sat in their boxes for too many years now, really need to bite the bullet and try it out.
The weekend is here o it i a good time to have a practice. If you have a scrap yard near you you may even be able to buy metal to practice on.
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Unfortunately with TIG you do have to keep that distance tightly controlled. The better machines allow you to come up a bit and still maintain the arc - though if you come up too much you still lose the gas shielding. TIG is not a fast welding method. If you need to weld different metals and create good and neat welds it is great but for speed its MIG or stick. Horses for courses. I learnt on oxy-acetyline and find TIG easier than MIG. You can't be an expert on everything ! I would say to viewers learn the skill you really need because learning to weld no matter the type is never easy.😀
Nice video
Many thanks and thank you for watching.
Good honest as you see it video thanks
You are welcome.
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Cheers for that, saw one in the lidl in the middle and thought Hmmmmm.
Tig takes a bit of practice, and I need it.... But I do like it! And it can burn rods well too! You do need a gas bottle, regulator and possible adaptor which you need to factor into the cost.
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Good job for having a go.. practice mate..
Many thanks, welding takes practice, but you can't practice TIG welding without a TIG welder! And now I have one.
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Thanks for a very useful video. Can I ask who you went to for your argon bottle and what are the options around buying/deposits etc. Have been seeing a few things on line about it being high cost for the small hobby type bottles. Only looking for something for occassional use so guess similar to your setup.
I went to Affordable Gas Supplies. I put a £25 deposit on the bottle and paid £35 for the fill. 10 Litres would have been a £55 deposit with a £60 ish fill. I may upgrade next time I swap bottles. They are in Horley
affordablegassupplies.com/
They use a gas supply firm who appear to be cheap.
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@@BensWorkshop Thanks for that. Gives me an idea of options and will check local suppliers. Good channel covering a lot of stuff I am also interested in so thanks for recording and posting these.
Many thanks!
Hi Ben, a quick question. What colour electrodes are you using. As a newbie, I have no idea what I should be buying.
I can't remember, can look when I get home, but it didn't seem to make much difference.
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@@BensWorkshop Thanks Ben, but please don't go to any trouble. I ordered a mixed set of electrodes from Amazon a few minutes ago. I am a new subscriber and you have my like. I enjoyed your video about the TIG Consumables too.
Many thanks, very grateful.
Great video just bought one of these,shame torch has not got a on and off button rather then a knob,
It is, and it is also a shame it does not have high frequency start on the button too, but it works.
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Does it do AC as well as DC ?
No, so it can't do aluminium. It's only £149.99 though!
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Would you recommend this as a good arc welder Ben? Does it run sticks good at the higher amps?
Good question. I am limited to a 13 amp supply, so can't hit top current, though ought to be able to get close.
What had you in mind of stick and current? (And indeed thickness of base material). I might well test it at that and post a video.
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@@BensWorkshop get a circuit breaker 3 pin plug and use it through it. Will protect both welder and your power feed.
I think you'll get close to the
180 tbh. It's newer technology in those inverters. It's not like the old transformer oil welders that would blow fuses if you looked at them.
Anything over 160 - 180 on half inch plate or thicker.
I've heard good reports of these new Parkside welders and I'm thinking about getting one.
What size rod? I can do 4mm, 3.25 and 2.5.
@@BensWorkshop 3.2 and 4mm please then cut to see penetration difference.
Corner or but welds? (The latter being ground to be welded from one side only unless you would like it welded from both, the former just welded into the corner)
I'd like to see it demonstrated by someone who can weld, but the fact the gas isn't auto with the switch means i'll not buy it, it will cost a fortune in argon, as a TIG welder of many years if i could give you one tip and that is as soon as you burn the point off the tungsten regrind, it is a pain but you'll learn to weld much quicker and eventually you'll only have to grind at the start of each session.
On the TIG get some thinner leather gloves so you can feel what you are doing better. You don't get much spatter with TIG so you only need thin gloves but you do get UV. Always keep skin covered up or you will get a bad suntan ! Put the mask setting so you can just see OK. If your vision isn't great the better masks allow for a flat lens to fit inside. I don't know how food the Parkside helmet is but you need a good helmet or you will get fed up and / or harm yourself.
It is best for beginners to forget the filler rod just use the torch. OK you will get a thin joint but you will learn to get a steady motion just pushing the weld pool with the gas. When you are learning you have to learn to keep your torch
at a consistent height before anything else . If you can't do that you will always have problems. When you can move the torch at a steady height then try the filler rod as well.
You can't get proper welds with the work piece perched on two bricks and your hands in mid air. It needs to be level and you need to be able to rest your hand on a stable flat surface. You don't need to weave with TIG but it helps move your hand against (if you tend to lean on your hand/arm and it tends to stick to the surface you are leaning on.) the surface it is resting on without your hand moving too far. It should also help to do dry runs moving your hand holding the torch and just watch the tip move to get a feel for things. You have to stack everything in your favour when trying to learn TIG as it is a bit tricky at first and you can soon get disillusioned.
If need be use proper welding magnet squares to hold the job in one place even just to tack it. The work piece moving around is bad enough when you are experienced but when you are learning it's a million times worse.
Many thanks for the kind advice. Those welding gauntlets I was using were sold as TIG welding gauntlets. I too am unconvinced as it is hard to feed the rod. I should get some more where I can look at them before buying.
The Lidl auto darkening helmet is good. Used it loads.
I take your point about it being easier if you have your hand resting, though often when doing other types of welding (MIG and MMA) I don't have somewhere to rest. Seems not to be too much of a problem.
My biggest problem is picking the right current setting and moving at the right speed (whilst feeding enough rod in).
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Get your torch hand resting on something and it'll probably help a bit.
Probably, though I found it not to bad without. I could also do with sitting on a stool.
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@@BensWorkshop whatever it takes my friend, only started messing with Tig a couple of years ago and getting my hands steady made a difference, as did practicing on welds that didn't need filler.
Yes, though my hand is reasonably steady with a TIG torch. I will try to reorganise my shop.
Hey Ben you weld like me. 🤣👍🏼
Is that a compliment or a dig? 😉
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LoL Ben, sadly it’s a dig, I’m no Mr Henry when it comes to my welding skills.
Well, at least he has offered some sound advice.
He’s always nice like that. 🙂👍🏼
Mr Henry gave me the best welding tip ever once, he said I should give it up. 🤣🤣
Just kidding
You should have a dedicated grinding stone so you don’t contaminate your tungsten same with a wire brush it should be stainless steel
That's true, what I will probably do is get a new grinding disk for only that for an angle grinder and use that.
The wire brush is not for the tungstens, it's just on there.
Many thanks for watching and the tips, my that's an early start for you!
You’re running too hot and you have too much gas practice practice practice with lower heat
You are definately right about the gas! Which weld am I running too much heat on?
Absolutley need the practice and I will, this is the first time I have TIG welded. I am impressed with the process.
Many thanks for the tips Henry, keep them coming!
35:09 😩 😫👹 👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹
We all makes mistakes, said the dalek climbing off the dustbin.
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God mate tighten ya lid🤦