Missouri high school football coach, team under for fire for 'illegal' prayer
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- The Freedom from Religion Foundation has filed a complaint against a high school football coach for holding a post-game prayer; former NFL player and Utah Republican congressional candidate Burgess Owens weighs in.
Freedom of religion. You don’t have to pray along .
The government (public school employee) may not endorse religion. Period. It's so simple yet you Christians just can't resist showing off how holy you are to others. Look at me, I'm praying in front of everyone instead of privately to myself! Aren't I wonderful!
Freedom FROM religion.
Matt Foley Again you have the right to not participate. Why are you trying to force your view when they aren’t forcing you ? What’s wrong for praying for health and safety?
Matt Foley plus you sound more like you have a personal agenda .
@@youhi2543 I'm betting you're a Christian.
The same people that complain about bullying are against prayers and morals unless they are to Satan?
^ fake kristian who supports locking up 70,000 innocent children without medical care where hundreds have died from the flu and the mumps. BABY KILLER!
@@ancientlink116 you like to copy and paste a lot Don't you
@@thepropaganda1066 If the shoe fits, fake kristian and BABY KILLER, wear it.
@@ancientlink116 so I take it you have nothing to share as far as information
There is no god or satan. You are stupid.
And they wonder why children lose their way, and become violent.
^ fake kristian who supports locking up 70,000 innocent children without medical care where hundreds have died from the flu and the mumps. BABY KILLER!
@@ancientlink116 you okay? sounds like to me you forgot to take your meds today.
@@ancientlink116 let's see some links to your clams
@@thepropaganda1066 Why bother? MAGA Hate Cultists don't do facts. You wouldn't recognize a fact if one sat on your face.
@Ford Fairlane
But they want YOUR VERY YOUNG CHILDREN to have story time at the Library with a 6 foot 4 dude in a dress. THINK ABOUT IT.
Not just story time... They've advanced that to wollow time and mini skirts sitting spread eagle while they read!
I'm atheist and I don't want that. I think you mean liberals
That's weird.
The left can't push their immoral agenda if there's prayer in school.
Exactly
So prayers illegal now?!
We are now living in peak stupid
Joe Blow unless of course you are required to pray five times daily during work hours.
Foreal
@Purple Heart Scott
and that’s encouraged
No, most prayers are legal. Unfortunately for your argument (although it's a stretch to call it that), official prayers led by public school officials are illegal. Engel v. Vitale.
@Bray
Peek stupid
People care about this crap? Who ever reported him needs a life..
Major_Valentine505 amen bro we are strong through god
@Major_Valentine505
you aren't Jewish, I can tell
YES, THEY DO.
One nation under GOD. Love it or leave it.
That particular part was only added in 1954.
So if I dont love god i should leave? Also doesnt say what god by the way. You can say this is a christian nation but a lot of the Christianity influences came after the founding of this nation.
See, but there's also the freedom of religion. Google Engel v. Vitale. Pretty sure it applies here.
@@Max_Mustermann In 1954? Wow. It sure took them long enough.
@@autorevive2821 No, Auto. You can stay.
This is sick. Sounds like a bill the deep swamp came up with. Coaches keep praying.
Whenever these stupid lawsuits go to Court the atheists lose. Problem is people/schools cave without going to Court.
DRUMP IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SWAMP. ;;BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS''
@markj6700 If you had faith you would know that their is no such thing as as an unreliable faith in God. We believers all have a great reason. Eternal life. I feel sorry for you.
How can ‘prayer’ be illegal?
✝️🇺🇸WWG1WGA🇺🇸✝️
Our Government was based on the Judea Christian Faith and the Holy Bible.
Because it violates the Constitution. But conservatives think the Constitution is “phony” so that’s no surprise.
@@Supernautiloid How does it violate the Constitution?
@@johnpatrick1647 Thank You
Try the Bill of right's concervatives are Christian Bible belivers and believe God created us all to be equal.
You should always have the right to pray to God
Anytime. Anywhere.
@fumanchu we do. There is only one!
@Blue -eyed you do have the right to not pray you have the right to pray as well
No one is forcing any one to pray.
@fumanchu There is only one God, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
How can a Prayer be illegal?
Its illegal to satan woshipers
Some teachers have recently been caught forcing their students to recite Islamic prayers. I guess only Christianity is illegal.
@@Dean4511 Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father but by me" (John 14;6)
PUBLIC SCHOOL. Moron.
That coach shouldn’t have apologized.
Amen. Have the courage to say no.
Right. Once you apologize, even to calm things down, it will often be used against you. Unless you are wrong NEVER apologize.
Never apologize for doing what’s right....they are all nuts. Leave if you don’t like it!🇺🇸🙏
@@MBFLA45 The left never accepts an apology from the right, never.
We’re taking this country back ! Can I get a USA 🇺🇸 this toxic culture has no place in America .
This bothers me considering before our game my coaches would always pray with us.
This is ridiculous. I prayed before every single football game I ever played. Fellow Christian teammates AND coaches prayed with me as well. Those who didn’t agree simply wouldn’t pray. You have the right to express your religious beliefs and also have the right to not participate. I highly doubt the coach forced the kids to pray.
just because you were brainwashed as a child doesn't mean other people should suffer like you do.
THANK YOU..
Maybe if there were more prayers in schools there would be fewer shootings?
...no.
Yes
It isnt magic..
Maybe if we didnt just pray for our problems to be solved, and did it ourselves, there would be fewer shootings.
Didn't seem to be any mass shootings back when we prayed in school. Just sayin'.
Need to put God back in school today is proof of that
I agree, but would you prefer it be Ganesh, Kokopelli, or Allah
I don’t recall freedom (FROM) religion in the constitution.
It's freedom of religion. Apparently, the left is entitled to add a R and an M to that.
The first amendment is freedom of religion and expression.
I don't recall Jesus in the Constitution.
Religion is a disease and destroys society
@@mattfoley6082 no but freedom of religion and expression is... It also covers freedom of speech and freedom of press. if someone doesn't want to pray that's cool , But if somebody wants to pray that is absolutely their right under the first amendment..
The United States has gone mad it's illegal to pray now??
NOBODY SAID THAT. You are an idiot
@markj6700 🤣 he is ur GOD too ! My prayer is that u have a supernatural meeting with him ! 🙏❤ and have a changed heart. I'm sorry for whatever happened in ur life that made ur heart hard I do pray u recover from the pain !!🙏❤
And oh not gods but GOD .. only one !! His name is Jesus !!
@markj6700 The law doesn't forbid prayer in school. No one is forcing your children to pray. Separation of church and state says we will not be a theocracy or have a "State" sponsored Church. Why are atheists afraid of something they don't believe exists?
@markj6700 Nobody is PUSHING it on people by praying. No one is being forced to participate. It's a violation of someone else's rights when you prevent them from it.
@markj6700 It's not illegal and your children are not being forced to pray if a teacher chooses to exercise their individual right. Unless they told the rest to participate or else.
And you wonder why school shootings happen more now... Take morals out and see what happens
"of" Not "from". The founders knew this would happen, they saw the pattern.
As is always the case with people who have selective literacy, they read "of" as "from". These are the same people who endorse freedom of speech, provided you agree with them.
@markj6700 WHAT DOES THE
SO---STAND FOR????
Praying is the foundation of our constitution, atheist people should STOP telling us that we can't pray and believe in our religion!
^ fake kristian who supports locking up 70,000 innocent children without medical care where hundreds have died from the flu and the mumps. BABY KILLER!
No one's saying you can't pray. Simply that you can't force others to pray.
No it's not. You're either very ignorant or a liar.
Me 0020, they weren't forcing them to pray.
@@chrisullery3386 If a teacher tells you to do something you don't have a choice, therefore it is forcing them.
I pledge allegiance to the flag and the United States of America...
one Nation under God
@markj6700 it was originally "one Nation under God".
It was taking out of the Pledge because God offended people.
@markj6700 you must be a dirty filthy commie peodile scumbag then and thats being polite
Congress opens each session with prayer from a federally paid Christian chaplain, yet school prayer is illegal? Can you say CON JOB by activist judges, who grossly misinterpreted the so-called separation clause in the constitution?
There is already law on the books that no one ever calls on when dealing with atheists. The freedom of religion act.
Freedom “of” religion, not from. Don’t like it, leave. Of course we all know you won’t because you didn’t leave in 2016 either when Trump became your president. That’s right, your president.
YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF TRUMP. 100 PERCENT.
THE CONSTITUTION STILL RULES. TRUMP WANTED TP CHANGE IT LAST YEAR AND HE DROPPED IT IN 2 DAYS.
@markj6700 Thanks for the good laugh. It's always hilarious when the left brings up the constitution. Now run back over to tyt like a good little npc.
We all have the right to pray wherever and whenever we want
OR to not take part in it.
Not if you're a public school employee.
"Atheists." Who happen to target only one religion....
Bingo
@markj6700 assuming privilege? You are joking right? Nobody is being forced to pray just like nobody is forced to say the pledge of allegiance or stand up for the anthem. Its freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
I would bet if he was of a different religious sect we wouldn’t even hear about this.
if it were nuslims etc there wouldnt be a problem
Ridiculous they act as if players are forced to pray everyone has a belief system even atheist they believe their is no god
Tell me I can't pray I will pull out the bullhorn. Now we all get to pray.
👋The team has their rights as well as those who are atheists. Don’t step on my rights or I will step in you .
I thought the title said “illegal player”
These people are stupid for complaining over a prayer. 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
Onehappydawg its all to do with united nations take over of america
@@melissamoats624
Melissa Moats sorry but the UN is on its way out, they have no power in our country. I’m sure if the democrats get full control the story would be different but that’s not going to happen for at least another 5 to 13 years.
markj6700 have you actually read the constitution? It says “CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....”
The Federal government can not make a law respecting an establishment of religion or its free exercise.
This was a limit on the federal government, not on STATE government.
Keep reading:
“The powers not delegated to the United States(Federal Government)by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Study your history. Shortly after the constitution was signed and for a long time after, different states had laws that said things like, “if you were not a Christian you could not hold a state public office.”
Some said if you were not a protestant you could not hold a state office.
None of these states were sued, the federal government didn’t say, HEY, you can’t do that it’s against the constitution!”
No, they left them alone because there is no such law as separation of church and state. The constitution only bars the federal government from making laws establishing religion.
The constitution protects our right to religion not from it.
This is pure bs!
He’s right don’t let those people bully you.
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Freedom from religion group
They need to have a word with the atheists in the middle east
Satan will never be a God so he better get over it
Satan will never be God but Satan has control of America and has for a very long time.
HE RULES IN HELL.
@@Thyalwaysseekshut up atheist
What a Congressman of merit and "grounded in the Founding Fathers true meaning of the Constitution" he would make.
Praying to god is ..........what. They have been trying to cancel god since eve ate the apple. Ever happen. God rules
What a bunch of Demonic monsters.
This is a direct violation of the 1st amendment the school board needs to be held accountable
@Zquadfather I have the right to worship whenever I want. You don't know what you are talking about. Where will you go when you die?
@Zquadfather the first amendment allows freedom of religion ...period. That goes the same for any religion
"Doesn't matter how many times you change your rulers or forms of government. Without ethics, morality and religion you will not have a lasting liberty." - John Adams
Igornant as hell should be able to pray
BURGESS OWENS IS A GREAT AMERICAN PATRIOT AND WE ALL NEED TO SUPPORT HIS EFFORT .!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO IS BURGESS?///??/
who is he ?? not being smart just don't know.
Just because someone works in the public school system, doesn’t mean, they can’t pray. I’m tired of these groups claiming it violates the constitution etc etc, it doesn’t!!
IT'S CALLED DISCRIMINATION. CALL THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF YOUR STATE HE WILL EXPLAIN IT. IF YOUR SCHOOL GETS STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING.. THAT'S WHEN ALL THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS POPPED UP.. SAD SO SAD
The First Amendment says Freedom of not from Religion
You know in the south both teams
of our high school boys meet in the middle of the field after the game and pray without ANY turmoil. The way it should be.
WOW! and that's really cool.
SILENT PRAY ???
carolyn boyd both teams meet in the middle of the field and kneel in a circle and pray together. It’s always been that way. We can’t hear it but someone leads the prayer. If I’m not mistaken it’s one of the coaches of the home team. Happened every game this season. It’s a beautiful sight.
We prayed before every game 1998 to 2001
1963-1968
There's no such thing like that in the 1st amendment.
Oh really? So select groups of people who pray shouldnt be allowed to at all?
1st amendment again... it is freedom of religion and expression... Just pointing that out
Freedom of, not freedom from in the Constitution.
The Lord says in His word that if you forget Him, He will tear you to pieces. Give your Life to Jesus before its to late!💖
I've read all the way to the back of the BOOK .... It doesn't end well for these evil "groups"
GOD BLESS THE USA!!!!
GOD BLESS THE FLAG THAT FLIES OVER THIS COUNTRY AND OUR ARMED FORCES.
Keep praying the world needs it!God bless everyone!!
The state cannot pass laws to make religion illegal. Therefore there is no illegal prayer.
Yeah, cause someone is going to die just for a little prayer! Incredible!
THANK YOU, SAMUEL FERNANDEZ.
Next time you pray spread a mat on the floor and turn to the Mecca. Nobody will dare to complaint.
Who are these people? I want to pay them a visit .
There is no such thing as an illegal prayer.
Reminds me of the time I got called into the human resource office because I sent out a Merry Christmas email to all the people in the plant I worked at. We had an atheist in the engineering department who complained. He could have just deleted it, but chose to make an example of me. Oh well...he was not with our company long, thank goodness. 🙏❤😎
I can't.. I'll pray whenever & wherever I want. Long hair dont care.. this is ridiculous..
i'm an atheist and they used to pray in all the sports when I was growing up. It's not a big deal, stop being a victim.
Hey Fox please fix the title. You have a “for” where it should not be. It should be “under fire for...” not “under for fire for...”
Common dude, you know that was most likely just a typo.
They probably mistyped some words when they were writing the title, tried to delete, then retype it and didn't notice the "for" between under and fire before posting the video.
It's an honest mistake that happens to everybody.
You're not saying you never make errors like that are you? Because I have a hard time believing you seriously didn't catch that.
Or could it be that you are simply trying to be a smart ally.
Hu? "Under for fire for" what could they possibly mean? Humm???
Oh! But that's not right. It should say "Under fire for" not "Under for fire for".
I better wright a comment, and let them know. Not everybody is smart enough like me to figure it out, and they could have many of their viewers confused about what their title actually means.
Thank God for me!
Give it a rest bro, it's just a typo.
People are smart enough to get that, and if there's any who don't they probably won't even care or even think anything of it.
Just relax.
@@conspiracytheoriesorconspi9061 so quick to call someone out,wth
RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION.
Religion doesnt belong in schools. ANY religion.
In The USA it's "In God We Trust"! All others feel free to leave!!!
"...Satan, the mighty prince of the power of the air, who is at work right now in the heart of those who are against the Lord." Ep. 2:2
THE MIGHTY PRINCE OF POWER IS IN THE OVAL OFFICE.
No more separation of church and state. Let’s be a theocracy like Saudis
those who do not want to pray, don't pray...those who want to pray, pray...
A woman asked Ben Franklin this as he exited the building the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written in; "Mr. Franklin, what kind of government have you given us?" He answered back, "A Republic, if you can keep it." Too me it looks more and more every day like the only option we may have to avoid the Democrat/Socialist/Communist attack on us is to water a certain tree...
I hate to tell these anti-religious people this but::
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PRAYER IN SCHOOL, so long at there are Pop Quizzes.
Prayer is also a first Amendment Right was the team forced into Praying? No apologies coach!!!
Forgive the non-believers. They are slaves of worldly things.
Praying for Missouri!
Your right to exercise your religion cannot be infringed by the authority of the state. That's what's clear in the first Amendment.
IT CHANGED IN THE NINETIES NOW WE HAVE SILENT MOMENTS WE CAN PRAY.
Those who uphold Freedom of Religion are not trying to prevent those who uphold Freedom from Religion, from exercising their Constitutional rights. Yet, in this case, those who uphold Freedom from Religion are unconstitutionally trying to prevent those who uphold Freedom of Religion, from exercising their Constitutional rights. Case closed.
Anti-religion is a form of religion.
The Coach and team voluntarily participated in the Prayer. If a player wished to include a alternate prayer, or not participate, Fine. Only if the accommodations were not made is there any issue at all. "National Anthem plays, Then " O Canada " plays for Hockey and Roller Derby. .......... Simplest thing in the world!
This is sad we should have a right to pray know matter where we are 🙏🏼
We need to pray for these people
We had prayer in school ,said the pledge of allegiance stood for the flag no one had to, it was always a choice and we didn't have school shootings
If people want to pray to their imaginary friends so be it....
Yes. I agree. And Christians should be allowed to pray to God.
We have the right to prayer anywhere and anytime. We are tired of these ungodly, self serving asses dictating to us what we can and cannot do. Separation is for the STATE TO BE OUT OF RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES. NOT RELIGION OUT OF STATE!
Always had prayers before games when I played sports😐🏈🏀
Pray for these atheists.
US currency says in God we trust
To take that it is "illegal" to say prayers to it's ultimate conclusion would imply that since the state has the power to collect taxes on what you earn that the state also has the power to determine what faith you have in any form of religion. If the state can take away your money to operate itself then all of your tax money should be beholden to the state and what kind of religion you believe in or practice. If the state has the authority to confiscate all your money then they ultimately have power to take away your religiosity.
Freedom OF religion is not Freedom FROM religion. Were any of the team required to pray or be kicked off the team?
Why do the wants (complaints) of a slim minority overrule what the vast majority wants. At this rate it’s gonna be illegal to make eye contact with someone in 10 years because they might get offended or get their feelings hurt.
The separation of church and state means that the state cannot make laws determining what is religious or anti-religious. And certainly no one side of the can petition to the authority of the state because of it. That's why the freedom from religion stance has no constitutional relevance. The constitution clearly states that the freedom OF religion cannot be infringed though. And that is constitutional law!
Doesn't that come under the First Amendment ? freedom of speech? isn't it okay to have religious freedom too? like the atheists?
.... endowed by the Creator with inalienable rights....
Unconstitutional?
I am tired of people thinking that their 1st Amendment right supersedes someone else 1st Amendment right. Did this coach force any player to stand in the hurdle of prayers? Atheist are bully’s that refuse to allow all people of the same rights. Americans must fight back.
The resources of the state cannot be used to prohibit the citizens from exercising religion. Therefore the state is not a factor whenever people exercise their religion. The First Amendment implies that all expenditures of the state can never be used to prohibit people from exercising their religion. Otherwise it would logically follow that the resources of the state or the authority of the state could prohibit the exercise of religion in its entirety or in any particular instances. The only limit on the state is that no particular example of religion should be promoted by the state as an oath of office to the state's authority and how the state operates in a negative sense.
If someone doesn't want to pray because his beliefs are different or he is an atheist, he can't be forced to.
But if none of the players complain... who cares?
*Nobodys making them pray or believe. Its a friggin voluntairy thing. You want to be the capitalist Kaepernick clown that takes a knee help yourself. But you can't stop someone from taking 30 seconds to pray that nobody gets hurt during the course of the game*
Freedom of Speech!
The freedom from religion is itself a stance on religion and is therefore an exercise of religion. The state therefore cannot effect a motion which protects a freedom from religion.
Right on. I'd vote for you!
Can't we all just pray for Trump to be impeached. Deal with it
I honestly don't care that THEY do NOT believe in a higher power. AS LONG AS THEY DON'T MIND IF I DO!! IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!
To say that people cannot exercise religion to a body which they are taxed is fallacious. And it is certainly fallacious to a code of governance which promises them absolute freedom of religion as the first amendment to the entire original agreement between the individual and governance.
The freedom from religion would imply that government cannot move to establish law freeing people from religion since freedom from religion is a stance on religion.
Evil hates righteousness.
allah would NEVER be questioned!