TESTED: Hodgdon Tite Group
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We recently tested Berry’s .357 125 grain FP-TP bullets over Titegroup from Henry’s Big Boy Revolvers. Happy with the performance, we decided to take a closer look!
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This is my go to powder for 9mm, 38 special, 38+p, 44 special, 45 ACP & 45 Colt. Not only is this a consistent product, it meters well in mechanical powder measures and most of all, compared to many of those traditional pistol powders, Titegroup is clean. I've never encountered residual unburned or ashy powder residue using this powder.
Same here
also have used it for more than 20 years in the same cartridges and 357 mag@@daimajind7231
I use it for 9mm in uspsa comps. 3.0gr tg 160gr head
My go to powder also. Loads very consistent out of a Dillon 550.
I have used titegroup for over 18 years for the same reasons
3.2gr with a 147gr plated bullet is my go to USPSA load. It is super soft recoiling and makes power factor. Thousands of rounds with that load no problems
Came here to say this. Works great suppressed too and can squeeze out some awesome ES/SD.
Guy is really coming into his own in front of the camera, a natural!
I have been using Tite group since I started hand loading ten years ago. The things I enjoy about this powder are just as you described clean burning, low charge weight, and versatility. I use this powder in everything except my magnum cartridges, and 30 carbine whch I use H110. I use this powder in 380 ACP, 9mm, .40, 45 ACP, 38 Special, 44 Special, and 45 Clolt.
Thank you for the Special Christmas Edition (to me) of UR. This is the first time I have heard a video from you. They way you phrase things, and your humor very much remind me of my late father. He introduced me to reloading 45 years ago tonight. Particularly fitting since my grandparents bought me a .45 ACP for Christmas. Well, technically it was my grandfathers and stayed locked in his safe, but it had my name on it under the tree. I put thousands of rounds through that gun. Tens of thousands. My father was shocked I had shot through all the powder he had given me as a started at Christmas and asked for more for my birthday the following April. And my poor old Speer reloading manual. I read that thing cover to cover 50 times or more.
Thanks for taking me down memory lane. I particularly needed it this year.
Thank you, and Merry Christmas!
Sometimes short lighter bullets in 38/357 uncovers the cylinder gap just about the same instant the bullet starts to engrave into the forcing cone of the barrel. Any little differences in the bullet engraving will allow variable amounts of gas to blast out of the cylinder gap leading to much greater than desired SD/ES numbers. Using a longer bullet keeps the gap covered for just enough time for the propellant to get burning real well. There is a reason full wadcutters have been the go to bullet for light target loads, ling skirt and perhaps a hollow base keeps the gap sealed just a bit longer allowing the light charges of propellant to burn more uniformly.
I've been using it for twenty years and almost replaced everything I used Unique and H110for. It's good to cut down on the different kinds of powder I have to store in my loading room. It's much cleaner in all my big bore pistols and lever guns. The small amount needed to load makes it cost effective, but you have to be sure Not to double charge a case, which would be very easy to do with this powder. 45 Colt, you have to look way down to see the powder in there. I've been very happy with this powder.
I’ve been using Titegroup for about 10 years + for IDPA. It’s the #1 powder used in IDPA too. Use it for 9mm. It’s great. 👍🏻 🇺🇸
I'm looking for a load for my kimber micro carry 3 inch barrel I'm using hs6,115 grain or 124 gr bullets 5.9 grains of powder mag primers or regular ones works great in my 4.75 barrel 1911 but not so much in my micro carry how many grains of tight group ate u using?
Have some Winchester powder but haven't tried it yet I'm just curious
@@chrisgrace1489 I use 124gr Extreme copper plated. If they’re out I’ll buy poly coated DG or Gallant. I use 3.7gr of Titegroup
I literally just started looking at Titegroup for 45 Colt just this morning.
Amazing video as usual. Titegroup is now the only powder I use for my handguns, 9mm, 38spl, 357mag, 45acp, 45 LC and 44mag.
Thank you for your time and effort in making this video. I just subscribed to your channel after watching. Between Titegroup and H110 I can load everything I need from 9mm to 300 Blackout and 30 Carbine.
I have even used Titegroup for 45-70. A small charge under a 350gr Berry's plated bullet makes a pretty neat subsonic plinking round.
I've tried just about everything available in my area for 45 auto. Titegroup is the only powder I've purchased more than once and continue to use. Nice work sir.
Great video, thanks for the work!
Thanks. Solid episode.
Thanks Guy. Really enjoy it. 😊
Thank you!
This is my primary powder for .45ACP (230gr ball and 200gr SWC) and for 9Luger (150gr FP powder coat). Extremely great powder!
I use 3 pistol powders CFE H110 and titegroup . with titegroup being by far the most versatile.
Well now this is a interesting video and I have been using tight group powder for years. I have loaded personally everything from 9 mm up to 45 Colt and have had excellent results.
Great video thanks!
Titegroup works fantastic for 9mm Luger as well.
I have worked up several good loads with Titegroup. Very economical due to low charge weights. Meters extremely well.
The new 2024 Hodgdon Annual Manual lists subsonic .308 Winchester loads using tightgroup powder.
Great job
I always really enjoy the way you do your videos,you explain very well,thanks
And thank you for your service,👊🏻🇺🇸
I use this for my reloading in .38,357,45acp and 45colt .i also make my own blackpowder thanks and have a happy new year
When I used to compete in USPSA, I used Titegroup in my .40 cal Glock 35. It was was excellent for me. I used to load around 3-3.5 grains with heavy bullets to make power factor. I think my loads were around 800 feet per second. Very manageable for competition double taps. It was accurate and recoil was minimal for follow up shots. With low charge weights, a pound of powder really stretched out. Which was good for me, because I was shooting close to 500 rounds a week competing and practicing. Even though I don't compete anymore, Titegroup is still my go to pistol powder.
I've been using titegroup for many years, primarily in 45 colt and 44 magnum. Some 45acp too. I like the ability in 44 mag to have load data for rounds in the range of 44 special without dealing with new brass and/or the feeding problems sometimes associated with 44 specials in a lever gun. I have accumulated a number of single action replicas and lever guns in those two chamberings and Titegroup is my favorite powder for those. If I want to max out velocity in a 44 mag, then there are better powders but I don't shoot those types of loads.
Great video and great information
This is pretty much all I use for pistol ammunition. It’s consistent, relatively clean, and economical as you don’t need very much of it compared to other common powders.
3.4gr Titegroup under a 147gr plated bullet works well suppressed in a 9mm pistol or PCC.
It has been my go to powder for the last 5 months for 9mm. Got really good results on coated lead bullets. It's great for 147 gn and 125 gn.
.380, 3gr. on a 95 gr, 9mmP, 4gr on 122gr and .38 special, 2.8 gr on 148 gr fwc. love this powder.
Very well done presentation, Guy. I’ve used TG for a long time in 9, 38 and 45 ACP rounds. I did some extensive testing several years ago and found that TG reacts unfavorably with the powder coat on cast bullets, so I don’t use it in those loads anymore unless they are destined to be shot immediately. I continue to use it frequently with plated and jacketed rounds. Merry Christmas! 🤛🏻🎄🎁🇺🇸
Good to know about the powder coating and Titegroup not playing well together. Thanks!
I don't have a license to shoot pistol in New Zealand , but was looking for a powder for Subsonic .223. Titegroup was a recommended option from hodgdon. 3.9gr behind a 70 gr speer semi point shot under 2" at 107 yds. Was impressed by the consistency considering the powder charge was only about 15% case fill and didn't use any packing.
Very nicely done, Guy. I enjoy your videos very much. 38+p, 357, and the 2 45's are my favorite cartrisges as well. No space to load right now, but i hope that changes later this year. I think i have some unused Titegroup with my stuff. If not, it will be the first powder i buy when i start up again. I have plenty of Lasercast 44 and 45 SWC's to use, among other things, and i will certainly buy some Berry's. Thanks for all the great info.
Great overview. Many thanks. Nice, nice collection there. I haven't used this powder before. We have bought and loaded kegs of Unique(Hercules & Alliant) in big bore handguns over the years. I have been working on a 4lb. Keg of IMR 700-X for a few years on 9, 40 & 44 Special. I have used a little Bullseye in past. All of these powders have served me well but they are all quite dirty. This is a very versatile powder apparently. When my powders get low I should give this one a go. Have a blessed time with family & friends celebrating Christ's birth.
Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
I don’t use it a lot in pistol. But I started using it in 12 gauge 1-1/8 oz at 1235 FPS. Hodgdon has since come out with High Gun that is the exact same powder at Titegroup that has dedicated shotgun data.
One heck of a 12 gauge powder!!!
Yup. I use it for 12 Gauge too. Makes a great 1 oz load. I have heard that you can use it for 3/4oz too, but haven’t found any published data for that yet.
I have had similar results in my 45 colt. Good star line brass and a profile crimp die helped.
I was looking for a 38 level load, a 125 at ~875 f/s in 357 brass for plinking. 231 and unique would vary 150 f/s, VERY position sensitive! Tite Group solved the problem. If you need 3 kernels of powder in a 55 gallon drum (like a 45 LC)... Tite Group.
I"ve been running Titegroup in .32 ACP & .32 S&W long primarily, but it works for range rounds across a broad range. Saying that, I have never tried it in .327 Fed mag, 357 mag, or 44 Mag. I may have to try it there now too.
Tite Group is the powder for my 45 Colt, 38Spl, often in 45 Auto. And yes, 6.2gr in the 45 Colt with anything from 200gr to 255gr cast bullets is always accurate.
Love Titegroup in pistol, and am messing with it in shotshell with light TSS 12ga payloads, with good results so far on waterfowl.
I found one powder charge that works well in 9mm(115 gr), 40S&W(180 gr) and 45 ACP (230 gr)-- 4.6 grains Titegroup... Great plinking/target loads. Using Berry's bullets.
Great 12g, tightgroup/hi gun samevexact stuff, that and cfe pistol for mass production 9mm
I love Titegroup for several pistol calibers. Primarily 9mm 147 grain. I have loaded many thousands. It is super accurate, clean, and cheap. The only downside I have found is it will discolor your clear powder tube on your progressive press. Pretty quickly. But it’s worth it. I have tried other powders but continue to only use Titegroup.
Have used TG for everything from 38 Spl cowboy loads to high end defensive 45 ACP and 44 mag loads. No issues with any cartridge.
The wear on that Kimber is perfect!
Ya, I've carried that pistol for a lot of years and put a lot of rounds through it. The amazing accuracy is gone, but it still shoots "okay" and that's fine. I do have a brand new Bar-Sto barrel & bushing on hand, waiting to be installed when the time comes.
@@guyminer3168I love honest wear on a gun. I really enjoy your stuff on the channel Guy! Thanks for sharing with us!
Thank you! @@camshaft6566
Looks like a very cool powder for light big-bore loads and a good alternative to the W231 I use for similar purposes. Great to know it's a viable backup if I can't restock 231.
Dirty powder doesn't bother me if it's useful. Talking about old powders, IMR4227 just became one of my favorite .44 powders despite being sooty and leaving kernel residue. Its velocity falls shy of 2400, H110, or Lil' Gun with similar load density. Its performance is a little more than, but closer to, Blue Dot or Longshot with much less blast, flash, and less perceived recoil than any of the above.
I haven’t noticed much difference between HP38, W 231 or Titegroup
This is the powder recommended to me in 38 Special when I started Cowboy Action Shooting. The charge weight is so small that you get plenty of rounds per container. Feels like shooting a .22 with these Cowboy Loads. Clean also. I won't say what the loads are...look them up for yourself in the manuals.
TiteGroup is a versatile and economical powder. But I found it has a pretty strong muzzle flash in my snubnose, and leaves all my guns dirty. I switched to Accurate #2 and like it much better. Clean burning, no flash, and nothing meters better. The TG is on standby in case things get rough sourcing powder again.
I have used titegroup in the 45 colt and got perty good accuracy and results from it for target loads it does do well I haven’t tried it in the other calibers you tried it in
Titegroup is my primary pistol powder. Interestingly enough it also delivered benches level performance in 300blk with Berry's 220 grain 6.0gn Titegroup.
ES 14fps, SD 6fps!!!!
Avg velocity 986fps.
Lotta good pistol powders in that burn rate. Universal is a favorite of mine in non-magnum cartridges.
All of my magnum handloads are fueled with H110, Power Pistol, AA#9 or IMR-4227. Pick one that works, and stick with it.
Love those cowboy bullets for the colt.
I have run this for years behind a 147g plated RN for IDPA and USPSA. Soft shooting, great consistency and with a small charge always makes power factors. The only powder Ive found that is any better is VV N320.
I am on a N320 kick at the moment it's good stuff.
There are two serious problems with Titegroup:
- It interacts very badly with polymer coated bullets, to the point of destroying the coating - it becomes soft, brittle and loses its adhesion to the lead. There are videos demonstrating this. The culprit here is high nitroglycerine content. The stuff is almost dripping with this chemical, feels sticky and oily. Unfortunately nitroglycerin dissolves in some plastics, degrading their properties. This powder may even destroy powder hoppers (old style red Lee Precision) if kept in there for too long.
- Its bulk density is very high for a fast burning pistol powder. There are two dangers associated with it. First it is easy to overlook a double charge, especially in the old school large case low pressure calibers like .45 Colt or .44-40. Some Titegroup loads in these call for 25% fill or less. The second issue is the bulk density being comparable to many slow burning rifle powders. So if the reloader mistakes Titegroup for a rifle powder, the charge weight may still fit in the case without overfill or even compression. I read about a rifle blown up this way, the surgeons barely managed to save the forward hand of the unfortunate shooter.
I've been using Tite Group for several years and absolutely love it. very economical, however I have found it is very sensitive to charge weights, specially in smaller cartridges like .380 ACP and 9mm. Also it is imperative to use safety precautions when charging cases because even small cases like the .380, or 9mm can easily be double or even triple charged. I'm only using 3 gr.
in my .380, 4.2 gr. in the 9mm and 5.3 in my .45 ACP.
I use 4.5 grains for 115 and 124 grain FMJ and plated bullets. Accurate, reliable, a bit more stout than your typical factory range ammunition, but still pleasant to shoot. A bit of flash with 3 inch barrels, but not obnoxious.
I use it in everything from 32acp to 454 Casull. It's always available and it works well in everything. I haven't found a super grouping load for my 454 yet but I get very acceptable accuracy with pretty much everything. I like big bore and I don't like recoil and it works great for that. However I do get a lot of residuals with published starting loads, particularly 38spcl.
Agree - it seems to burn considerably cleaner with loads closer to max. I've seen that with other powders as well.
I’ve used it for everything even 500s&w and throughout covid I was forced to use it duplex ! When I couldn’t get powders I needed and could only get very slow powders I’d add a spot say 5g and it’d spark off those slow rifle powders when nothing else was available. I’m not advising it just saying it’s super versatile!! It’s amazing how it not sensitive to position and light charges
2.7gr is my magic number for TG. When I was developing light loads for .38SPL with 148gr WCs, and I started using Unique when I was 5yrs old(I'm 51 now), and Unique was always my go-to general pistol powder, but at 3.2gr of Unique it just wouldn't give a good burn, and could even squib, as the powder wouldn't light properly. 3.4gr is the lowest to get a clean burn. Had a pound of of TG(2010 Obozo shortage garbage, and couldn't get Unique, so tried TG), and took the loads down to 2.7gr, shot BEAUTIFULLY. Had gotten the Walther P99 Y2K(SN 310 of 2,000)in one of the 500 they made in .40, and figured I probably didn't wanna use that for an EDC as it was unfired, so she went in the safe, and traded one of my Charter .38s, and $50 for a SW99. Was working down loads for reliable, accurate plinking ammo, took it down to 2.7gr TG with 175gr cast boolits, 1in groups at 25yds, functioned flawlessly. Started loading for my buddy's 32-20 SW Hand Ejector pre Model 10, 2.7gr TG. So 2.7gr in .38SPL WC, 175gr .40SW, .32-20WCF, .32 Long, 9mm 124gr castall function flawlessly, and accuracy is superb. When I started on .45ACP loads, book listed 4.2gr as minimum, so I worked down from there in my Sig 1911 Target. Load 5, test 5, got all the way down to 3.0gr, and still cycled perfectly, though best accuracy is at 3.5gr with a 200gr cast SWCTL, 8 shots in a 1in square at 25yds. But TG is weird as large cases don't usually like "miniscule" loads of super fast burning powder. 4.5gr in a .44SPL is BEAUTIFUL. The only problem I found with the TG was in the 6.0gr loads under a 200gr cast RNFP in the .44Mag was I was getting a bit of gas cutting on the top strap of my 629. So I went back to Unique for my .44Mag lite loads, and relegated the TG to "lesser" loads in the other calibers, and less than 6gr using SPL cases in the .44. .45 Colt absolutely LOVES it "original" pressure loads, and cowboy action loads. And the fact I get 3,300 loads to the lb in most calibers I load it in is nothing to sneeze at!
Excellent info. Thank you. I'll watch for that top-strap cutting. That's best avoided!
I using it for 9mm for uspsa , 147gr at 3.2 gr to make 125 PF. 4.2 gr for 115 gr . 3.7 for 124gr
I have loaded .38 Spec 158gr +P a bit. Shoots good, but I have noticed that it does burn hot. The revolver gets quite hot after 12-18 shots at a fast pace (I shoot PPC with them).
This was the first powder I bought when I started reloading. I also found that it does not seal 38 that well, but it does great in 45 acp.
I used titegroup until I discovered Ramshot silhouette. Now the titegroup sits on the shelf.
Titegroup is my go to powder for anything handgun
I started using Titegroup about 4 years ago in 45 Colt in my Rossi M92 carbine, liked the fact is was position and volume insensitive and it just worked. Up to that time I was shooting a lot of Red Dot and Unique, started using it in 357 with the same results. My 44 mags were always higher pressure and 2400 always filled the bill nicely but it took a toll on my hands in extended shooting sessions so I bought a 3" Ruger GP100 in 44 Special. I found it's perfect round, very accurate, small charges and very consistent. 5gr of Titegroup puts that GP100 with a 200gr cast and powder coated slug just under 900fps and is a pleasure to shoot. If I had any complaint it would be that it seems to transfer a lot of heat into the revolver, after 35 rounds or so My Ruger is getting hot and in my average range visits I might go thru 50-70 rounds in just 44. It pays to bring a second handgun with me and my 1911 in 38 Super fill that bill. Another powder that has a perfect niche is Silhouette, I don't use anything else in 9mm or 38 Super. It's also a top powder in 45acp also, I use it a lot for cast 200's along with WST for target work. Silhouette might be a great powder to test for the semi auto crowd.
I've used Titegroup in 45 ACP and 9mm and they've performed very well. I changed to different powders so they'd have better case fill for safety when loading on a progressive machine. I didn't want to chance a double charge, for some reason with Titegroup, which wouldn't overfill the case. Using a slower powder would overflow the case and I'd be able to pick it up quicker.
A very worthwhile consideration.
I switched from 231 to TG for .45 ACP for both USPSA Major loads (200 gr bullet at 840 fps) and steel plate loadings (200 gr bullet at 730 fps), and use about 20% less powder with TG for similar velocities... Major PF needed 5.7 gr of 231 but only 4.7 of TG, and steel plate loads needed 5.0 gr of 231, but only 4.0 gr of TG)
Used to load Unique but during Covid it was not available. Switched to Titegroup for target rounds in 9mm, 38 Spec and 45 ACP. Meters and shoots very well. For higher velocity rounds (for HP bullets) I use CFE Pistol since Titegroup has narrow velocity range. I load H110 in 357 with very goid results, but it is so fine it leaks out of my powder measure and messes up my bench.
Yes! I love the velocity of H110, but it's an interesting beast for sure.
This is my favorite for 9mm parabellum. I like Accurate 7, but I find that it takes a larger charge, to get similar performance to the Titegroup.
with no risk of a double charge. no one seems to mention this about the TG.
I have a colt python in the colt, and thompson center sigle shot, it's a ball to shoot
I have not used Titegroup yet (Bullseye has been my go to pistol powder) but I'll be sure to pick up a pound next time I'm at Scheels/Cabelas/Sporteman's Whse. Nice video Guy.
Have several loads with tg I've become a fan of especially in 44 special
Good powder. It really shines in 180 grain .40 subsonic suppressed. Low charge weight + fast burning = less volume, less heat, less pop, less noise. Longer the barrel the better. With the rise of 10mm, I think of .40 S&W as subsonic 10mm. Also tightgroup is very forgiving when reloading on mixed range pickup brass for training/local matches. Barrel length seems to not matter much outside of noise when suppressed .
Good to know! Thanks.
Great video and very useful information. I have been using Tite group for years on .38 Spl. I like to shoot duty size revolvers like Smith and Wesson M15, M64,M 65, M 686, and M627. This information is very helpful to me since now I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk, S&W M69, and a Marlin (Ruger) 1894. I got a real kick out of the M69 shooting.44 Spl. for the first time in my life ! Sad since I am about your age. I was able to get a can of Unique for $50 !! However I have several cans of TiteGroup. I usually recharge my stack of .38's when I use up about 500 rounds. Luckily I don't have as many.44 cases available. As you mentioned the shooting budget is always a major concern. Next I will also fill up 800 .45 ACP cases. Perhaps another consideration would be how to cut cleaning time on revolvers . Also Berry 's bullets that get stuck in the barrel.
Running a max of 6gr of tite in my 45colt loads intended for my 1872 open top. Gets around 880 fps with a 250gr plated berrys bullet.
I use it in 38 short colt for icore type loads!
Love Titegroup in my limited experience so far.
I use titegroup for pretty much all pistol cartridges. It works in everything and it's cheaper to shoot. Really good for economical 9mm loads. Not the best for high performance .358 magnum loads because it develops too much pressure to get the really high velocities. Also like it in .45acp. haven't used it in .44 Magnum yet but probably will soon. ( Just got a .44 magnum and don't have dies yet)
Just loaded some 38 special with Tite Group. Need a range trip to see how they perform.
I need to give this a try. I have been using Unique in my 357’s. Shots great but it is extremely dirty.
Yes, I've been using Unique for decades and still have a lot of it. "Shoots great but it is extremely dirty" is a great description.
Unique: Often referred to as "flammable dirt".
Thanks.,.
9mm for USPSA and IDPA loads. Shoot for 130 power factor to compensate for variable of the match's chronograph. Used to do 115 grain bullets but now mainly 124 and some 145 grain pills too. With 124, 3.1 grains gets it done without soot on brass. But, it is dirty; leaves the action and barrel pretty sooty. I miss Bullseye (had a good scent too) but I won't pay the prices that people want for it. Used to get Bullseye for 15 bucks per pound. Won't pay 45 in Q4 2023. I would go back to Bullseye in a heartbeat if the price was closer to Tightgroup.
Yep, I started using Titegroup when I saw I could load over 2,000 rounds of 9x19 per pound. Then found it was great for 45 ACP, 380 ACP, and 38 special. I think 460 Rowland is the only pistol cartridge I don't use Titegroup in.
What do you use for your 460 Rowland?
@@guyminer3168 Power Pistol
Be interested to see this and some other powders in a comparison for .300blk
Do bench mark next please! I’ve been using benchmark now for a while in my 308
That's a good idea. The 308 reacts well to so many different powders. Typically I'll use Varget or RL-15.
Guy demonstrates good technique for shooting a single action revolver (or a DA in SA mode) by using the support hand to run the hammer.
Thanks. The firing hand never has to break position that way. Helps me shoot better.
Heck I use tightgroup for my target 12 gauge. 15 grains 1 1/8 shot 1100 fps easy on the pocketbook.
Hello guy, love old school
You and me both. :)
If I only had one pistol powder, it would be Titegroup. I use it in nearly every pistol from .32 ACP thru .45 LC. For really serious social work I load slower powders at higher pressures using H100, Power Pistol, etc. However, I shoot hundreds of plinking, competition, and accuracy rounds for every carry round, fortunately, so far, these have all been used in practice only. Titegroup is really a versatile powder, clean burning, position insensitive, inexpensive, consistent in both going into the case and propelling bullets out.
I haven't tried Titegroup yet. I'm an old codger that is stuck with the powders I've been acclimated to over the last 40 years reloading. I use a lot of IMR 700X (as far back as when it was Dupont 700X) I still have some Dupont rifle powders too. I bought 2 twelve pound kegs of 700X on a very special sale back in the mid 90s and still have a few pounds left, in good condition. I've loaded 12gauge, 32 acp, 380acp, 9mm, 38sp, 357Mag, 40S&W, and 45acp with it. It wasn't very good in the 40S&W. It is too fast for some of the polymer guns. It has been hard to find lately. I have a good stock of HP38 and Win231 too. I've taken a liking to Winchester's Clean244. My only complaint with it is a whitish ash at the muzzle on my Sig's. Other than that it is flawless. I also like PowerPistol for hotter 9mm and poly 9mms. I use IMR4227 for 44mag in a lever carbine. I tried IMR 800X in a few cartridges and in 20ga trap but it wasn't burning completely and was pretty dirty.
I like to use it in small capacity cases, such as 32 ACP, 380, 9 mm due to its small load volume. It is hard to cram a full charge of a slower burning powder in these cases without compressing the load, but a faster burning powder like tite group takes up less space so you can easily fit a full charge if that's what you're gone for. Also, it's great for saving money if you're trying to get as many loads out of 1 pound of powder. I don't care for it in magnum rounds such as 357 or 44 mag because I feel like it's too fast burning for these type of rounds especially with heavier bullets also, there's too much empty or dead space in the case.
I shoot about 10K rounds a year of .45 ACP and 9mm in competition, and TiteGroup is my go-to powder for those calibers. It meters well and is pretty economical. However, when loading for .38 Special, I found the recoil impulse to be very snappy with bullets in the 148-158 grain range. On advice of some other serious wheelgunners, I started using Unique and found that recoil to far more of a shove than a snap.
One thing to be careful of when loading TiteGroup in those big-volume cases is that the charge weights are low and take up very little volume. Especially if you use a progressive press, it's easy to throw a double charge and not know it. I found out the hard way (with a bulged cylinder being the only casualty) and now use a powder lock-out die on the press.
I don’t reload a lot of handgun, pretty much just my 44 magnum and 357 magnum. For those I like using magnum powders like enforcer, lil’gun, h4227 and 296. In my 357 mag 158 grain loads, 6.1 grains of tightgroup gets you 41,900 CUP With 1229 FPS. 18 grains of lil’gun reduces pressure by 16,100 CUP and gives an extra 348, FPS.
I guess if you want to shoot slow bullets with a lot of pressure for reduce recoil, tight group could be a good choice.
This is a powder i have been wanting to try.
It works well for 380, 9mm, 40, 45, 38 spl, 357, and 44. Can be a little dirty but if you clean your guns every 300-400 rounds it’s negligible.
The biggest negative is it doesn’t need a lot of powder to reach desired velocities. This means less of a gap between min and max loads, and also less likely to see a double charge in some cartridges, so you have to be careful (not that you wouldn’t otherwise).
The main complaint I see with this powder is how dirty it is. Of course that won’t matter much to the typical ultra-low shooting volume 1911 and Revolver owner.
Yes I have some TG. I live behind enemy lines in CA. So lm just hoarding 😖
Great video. Can I ask what brand/model of chronograph you are using?
In an 45 COLT, SAA Uberti/Taylors... would the DATA you showed for that Black Hawk (a much stronger wheel gun) be good? Or should I be staying at 5.0 gr with Titegroup powder? My bullet weights are 200-255. Thanks for showing this . I am new to reloading and only using a Lee HAND Load set up. TiteGroup was the only powder I was able to purchase in Minnesota. Also someone on YT I watched was saying this powder was dirty and to smokey for an indoor range. From listening to you I see this is not true...SO. Again,Thanks
I’d like to see video on trailboss and something that can be substituted since it’s hard to find nowadays.
I think it was discontinued..
@@keatonjorgensen8793 makes sense why you can’t find it then. Thanks man.
Shortening your COAL (cartridge overall length) dramatically increases pressure. Without pressure testing equipment, there is no way to say how much is safe. Stick to modern reloading manual data and proper workup procedures.