Do physicists believe in God?
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- Our scientists respond to more questions from viewers - this time it's questions about God and astronomical features. More from us at www.sixtysymbols.com/
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That story with the microscope is gold
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite pls. go to jw.org
+Attnel Ofsurds ikr
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite Christmas is a pagan tradition. You can celebrate christmas if you want but not me! I'm from the Philippines. Many people here don't celebrate Christmas because of that Simple fact that I said awhile ago.
Why are you all replying with a religious debate? I just said it was funny...
+Attnel Ofsurds I doubt it's true. Proabably just wants to seem like such a hardcore scientist that he was doing this as a kid, yeah right,
"ohh that's a big question... (1 sec. later) okay no" lol not so big it appears.
+Franklin Gomez And afterwards he started explaining why, also, a big question doesn't have to have a big answer.
+Franklin Gomez Ever hear of Sarcasm?
He probably simply already gave it a lot of thought...
big question, small answer
to make a physicists to become religious is a Mission Impossible: Physicists aren't religious movie
"Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonalbe conclusion is that they are all wrong.”
- Christopher Hitchens
Or all of them are wrong but one? "Since it is obviously inconceivable that all the various ways in which relativity and quantum mechanics can be theoretically reconciled are correct, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong." Really?
Well if you've ever read The Sandman, then you'd know it's possible for all of them to be right.
I haven't read The Sandman (though I probably should, Neil Gaiman is awesome), so do you want to explain how it's possible? I'm going to guess that regardless of how interesting the idea is from a literary point of view, that Neil Gaiman has no exemption from the basic rule of logic that two statements which contradict each other can't both be true.
dt Well basically, all religions exist because we thought them up. Our minds in the world of the Sandman have an effect on reality. Science is still very much correct in this world, but our dreams made the myths real as well. However there is less interaction with these mythological beings today because we don't believe in them anymore which in turn takes their power. The most powerful being in this world outside the creator (not abrahamic in nature btw) is Satan because nearly 4 billion people believe in him.
I'm not saying that you should accept the premise of the logic, but it is nonetheless a logical explanation for how all religions along with science can be correct simultaneously.
Saed Abumokh Do you have a better provable idea?
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Boril Boyanov at least my parents are still together!
johnception WHAT?!?? HOW DO YOU KNOW??? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR??? CIA, FBI COINTELPRO INTEL?!? I SWEAR I WILL DESTROY ALL YER CAMERZ BRO!!! *twists head around furiously*
prospecops 3 grab popcorn
2:10 Just observe the world and make your own opinion about it. I wish more people thought like that.
Agree, but sadly people love to jump at other people with different opinion
Not really. More flat earthed would be born 😂
no, thats a terrible way of doing things. The universe is objective and our views are subjective, the point of getting closer and closer to the truth is to become more and more objective to what is. Observe the world make your own opinion can lead to "Jews are bad" - Hitler.
"oooh that's a big question, okay . . .no." LOL
Professor Moriarty ftw
Well, as far as believing goes, I agree with Einstein. "I am willing to believe when there is evidence, but then it is knowing."
Not true, having evidence isn't knowing yet. That is where faith is. There is evidence but you cannot know for sure
1:54, that is why he is a professor. If he thought of that at 9 years old he must be pretty damn clever.
+Wolfgang Ambrus Personally I was heavily indoctrinated by nuns for 8 years, starting from age 4. At age 13 I realized it was all rubbish. I'm not a prof, but at least I know I'm not gullible. :)
+Wolfgang Ambrus my thought exactly! at that age I would be thinking more about how I couldn't wait to watch this show on the telly
Sith Smasher me agnostic at age 11, atheist at 13. high-5 for team young atheist! ex- muslim tho. nice to meet u :)
Ikmal Axl wow you must feel really proud of yourself, thanks for the blog!
NEprimo im not proud show off punk. i just said i was atheist at young age. it's not hard at all y am i suppose to be proud of it? all i said we need more ppl like this. educate dem
"Oh that's a big question. Ok. No."
For a big question he sure did answer pretty fast and pretty straightforward.
he answered honestly.
It's not like he made up the answer on the spot though, is it? Who knows how long and how much thought it took to get to that answer. I mean, it's also a huge question whether the universe is going to expand forever or not, but when the answer's known for certain after decades of research, that'll be a one word answer too.
It's a big question for him because of his past. It probably took a long time for him to decide which view to take on the subject, as you could have guessed if you had payed any attention to the video.
***** That appears to be you. He was in no way being sarcastic.
Am I the only one that thought they wouldn't give such obvious answers?
Meh... I meant that I thought at least half of them would come out as believers while it's obvious they are expected not to believe
+Marcos Socram The answer IS obvious
+Ahmed 360 But the entire creation story is wrong and you can not prove Gods existance. As long as something can not be proven, it has to be regarded as false.
***** But consciousness IS just governed by biochemistry. Also, I didn't mean Adam, I meant the creation of the earth in seven days which is entirely false.
***** Consciousness is the awareness of ones existance. Plants are not conscious. Also you have jumped to the Quran, while the original creation story is in the Tora. Lastly, even if the time frame is correct, the creation story is just lacking in to many places to be right. Noah's ark for example is physically impossible.
A lot of people are making comments warning everyone about the comments section however from what I see it seems pretty calm.
Mike Hunt Nothing, actually. I was expecting you to run away, actually. Wow. This is awkward.
zed1207 Oh. Have a nice day.
Jeez I thought this was an old comment of mine that I forgot :)
I agree... try some 9/11 video for comment cancer.
Try reaching the newest comments
The guy speaking between 1:22 & 2:11 expains it well. WHY'D THEY KICK HIM OUT OF THE CLASS IF HE DIDN'T HAVE A POINT?!
"...you're not just looking at large distances, you're looking back in time."
Well to be fair we are constantly looking back in time... and that is just as amazing to me. :)
I'm God and I find this offensive.
Uuuuuh y plus there is a reason that is acceptable and they r allowed to believe whatever
Kachun Wong A shotgun is a product of science, you filthy infidel!
Kal Sage 'cause I hate you.
Kal Sage Yeah, well, Brad Pitt prayed harder. Sorry about that, bro. :(
i am the angel wich created the NUKE :P
God doesn't have to be the religious God.
It's on the mental field, not in the material. With your mind you can create whole universes.
But only in your mind.
I wouldn't proceed past this point in the comment section. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
The comment right below yours says " the comments are actually pretty calm"
You have got two replies now! I am coming for you.
There was one comment that stood out:
"There's no contradiction."
Science isn't a belief system, its a tool for discovery.
I love this channel and these videos, thank you all for being a part of this. It is really inspirational.
Prof Merrifield's thoughtful and open-minded response is a fundamental reason why he is my favorite presenter in these posts. He also knows how to see the humor in heady topics. I just like him (not that I don't like the others...).
Me too!
Awesome! Love this vid, pretty much made my day.
Moriarty's denial of Flying Spaghetti Monster offended me deeply.
Flying Spaghetti Monster is pure cringe
@@AtheistJr LoL dude, you must be so cool, putting atheist on your name so everyone knows about it, damn I wish I can grow up to be an edgy teen like you too.
@@Belial-jv5tq man you got offended real quick.
He's NOT Pastafarian??
Please ask the Numberphile guys if they believe! Thanks!
Pc They would believe because Mathematicians usually know very little about science since society puts math in a higher level than most other sciences but then again there's no contradiction.
Littlemanz Jordan What? A very large amount of mathematicians are physicists as well, simply because of how much they interlink.
@@littlemanzjordan7267 Huh?
Ask them if they believe alien exists.
*grabs popcorn as I scroll into the comments*
triggered theologians for miles!
I was literally just eating popcorn while I watched this. O.o
Michael Graziano 😂😂😂
This was very satisfying to watch
1:51 ...this...
very good documentary
thank's for your work!!!👍
I love this channel and all those involved!
Moriarty's proposal of checking the bread after the eucharist reminded me so much of my schooling (I was also brought up catholic and went to a catholic school) and I got beaten for similar reasons, and then sent out of the class, and just for asking innocent questions that any enquiring mind would ask. I was an atheist by the time I was 5.
That's why catholics arwn't Christian though
@@uganda_mn397 Explain why you say that.
@@ZER0-- they deviated from The Bible in Theology, in deeds as an organization and most of them just follow the cultural Christianity which is more following your nation as Christianity is conversion in it's core based on ezekiEl 36:26 ( that's maybe too sophisticated for now but it's true ), not something you adopt or get born into
The first guy is my fav he said that’s a big question but said no amedietly without having to think😂
Damn! Can't get more straightforward than that!
Stoked with the Hitchhikers reference... Bless you
Lol, the Great Green Arkleseizure. Yet another Hitchhiker's reference from Professor Moriarty.
A defintion of faith is to believe without evidence.
False.
True
@@juance2262 If you have evidence faith is irrelevant.
@@Artman1 why?
@@juance2262 Faith is ignorance dressed up as something special.
That last story was amazing
00:44 I believe in Miles Davis.
And he believes in you 👍
The Hubble Deep Field is absolutely jaw-dropping to me. Hubble, if I recall, was trained on a section of totally black space about the diameter of a straw...or was it a postage stamp? Either way, it's too incredible. The sheer number of them, for starters. Then you realize some of the galaxies we see in that photo were already 6 billion years old when our Earth was barely forming.....! ! ! ! ! The implications render me utterly gobsmacked.
The microscope story is depressing, how can people be so closed minded...
I was about to comment the same thing... Catholic doctrine is sooo screwed-up. It is sad that he believes that is what Christianity is when it is just plain wrong. In my church, we encourage these sorts of discussions.
As a Christian, I don't quite understand why Catholics can't see what a political and very much HUMAN, not DIVINE, institution their church is. Or, heck, any church.
Oh, and the descriptions of space are beautiful too. Wonderful to hear these intellectuals talk about them.
let me understand. Are you saying some churches are diviner than others?
doid3r4s Do you mean me? Not especially, in my view. There are simply different ways people express their faith, though some churches I don't respect. And, at risk of upsetting anyone, I'd rather not say more about the subject.
You're so unfair, he was just a child
That transubstantiation experiment idea is epic! That is only a leap that a 9 or 10 year old would make, yet requires a certain amount of knowledge and perspective to make it.
There may be some things that are unknowable for us no matter how deep we dig, but until there is positive proof I'd have to say I'm atheist. I agree, the Hubble 'Deep Field' image just blew me away too.
1:06 this man got a balance idea, not trying to put down the other argument, and trying to get out of his subjectivity.
Lovely hitchhikers guide to the galaxy reference :D
Look at all of those useless downvotes.
Andrew Crum how are they useless ?
2:25 in the video it slams me right in the face that the professor have a beautiful picture of Miles Davis. What a sight!
What prof. Ed said at the end is really mind-blowing. Imagine a close-up on a world from 5 billion years ago...
Massive respec to Prof. Moriarty for bringing The Great Green Arkleseizure into it.
More of a believer in the second coming of the Great Prophet Zarquon then Phil? Love the Hitchhikers references!
@sixtysymbols, this video will bring you into the top discussed videos this year!!! XDXD
My new favorite guy, the one who referenced the "Great Green Arkleseizure" from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
I would've liked if this particular question was asked in Numberphile, Periodic videos, computerphile etc.
Yeah.... there's a reason we never got Part 2. This is Brady's job now.
Being able to look back in time is actually pretty freezing amazing and scary
Freaking*
If there were a mirrow on an imaginative edge of the universe could you watch what happens in the past? If the light of a happening would return back.
If that mirror was there from the beginning, you'd probably see a gas cloud which our sun and planets were born from a long time ago.
Not that spectacular though, you can see this happening everywhere you look in the universe.
That story with the microscope Is gold
0:29 with captions/subtitles, I lol'd
I guess I can understand them. I myself am studying theology at a university in Sweden and am becoming a priest in due time. But I also like physics. Not that I'm particularly good at it (It was a long time ago I had the chance to do more advanced math) but I like to hear about scientific discoveries and I'm all for accepting the scientific advancements that has been done during the 20th and 21st senturies. I also think it is my duty as a soon to be priest to at least try to understand these discoveries. They are the facts of the world, so why should I make myself an authority on matters that I'm just a novice in.
To summarize my thoughts. I am religious and I invite people to participate in the religious beliefs that I have. But as the church is a part of society and a part of nature, the church also have to realize that it has a duty not to scrutininize science but to learn from it.
Science is fact, while religion is belief and I don't think that the two have to be opposites. But when it comes to belief it is up to the individual what is subjectively true or not. Science is just true or false.
I really liked the video about how worried these teaches seemed on physics in school (sorry, didn't find a link). I really agree and I think educating people on physics and math also would make a difference upon the church, making it more inclusive and understanding. This could make incidents, like when the teacher spoke about the transubstantiation, not happen (or at least not as frequently). I think both the church and scientist need to try and understand that religion and science aren't opposites.
That was a long post. Sorry about that.
Well said
perfect.
Science is not entirely fact because sometimes it is based on theories which in some cases are not proven.
Anton where are you at with all this now? I’m currently on a journey similar to where you were 6 years ago - keen to hear how you are getting on.
@@JordanALAllen Imagine lying for a living :). Brainwashing children should have the death sentence.
I love how they all laugh at the thought of god existing.
Lol
@@piec6062 that reply was a little late
Lol XD
Do you? You must be as dilutions as them. You must also think they are geniuses, even though they have discovered nothing, and contributed nothing to the work of Newton. The father of Physics, and a true believer.
SJY newton was a heretic btw
There are also many atheists who have contributed tremendously to science (perhaps you’ve heard of Einstein, or many others)
As for Newton, he’s a bit of a mixed bag. He was one of the greatest mathematicians/physicists the world had ever seen, but he also believed in alchemy, had mercury poisoning, stared at the sun for hours and put a needle under his eye just to see what would happen
Nice video!
0:00 "Oh, that's a big question." Answers it a second later.
A big question can have a small answer, especially if the person giving the answer has given a lot of thought to the question.
They most likely considered this question over a long time before, so while it is a big question they already know and understand their view on it.
"Do you believe in God?"
"Oh, that's a big question. Okay, no."
This is the second time I'm hearing about this flying spaghetti monster! xD imma do my research...
Scientology
From a physicist too :D
Ramen, brother, Ramen! :-)
I'm shocked by people who have not heard of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I hope you checked it out, three years ago. Here's a start ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
Arthur G wow...
Hitchiker's reference at 0:52. You win at life.
Wow I loved this video!
The thing about physicists is that they are a significantly less homogeneous group of people than you see in many fields. Different physicists can have *very* different personalities. From the introverted geeky type to the "drive fast cars and party hard" type like Von Neumann. From autists like Dirac to extremely extroverted and excentric types like Feynman. From the light-hearted and humoristic to the very serious minded and old fashioned.
The majority would declare themselves atheists because they're trained to demand evidence for any unreasonable claim, and because they have a very reductionist view of science and a good understanding of emergent properties. Also, plainly because high IQ people are less likely to believe.
However, there is a portion of Christian scientists, and there is a fairly large portion that underscore the "physicists are different from one another" by being into every kind of eastern religion and new-agey stuff. Gell-Mann was a good example of this, introducing stuff such as the "eightfold way" as mainstream physics terminology.
I think that you have basically described mankind as a whole.
Why is it obvious that an intelligent God created a universe but it is not obvious that an intelligent man wrote a book?
James Evanko Haahaha, so very true. Although they might not have been _that_ intelligent, too many plot holes.
ObeseYeti There were many, and I'm pretty sure they didn't know each other.
+James Evanko Did you universe come from nothing?
+Mike Tyson. Define nothing.
the bible is face and they miss translated the reed see with the red sea. all the slaves from Egypt crossed the reed sea. so that proofs that the person who wrote it is an idiot lol
It's my first time watching videos from this channel so I don't know any of your names. But guy in the grey shirt, what an awesome 9 year old you were.
Ahahaha I love the experiment proposition though! ^^
0:19 "No, absolutely not. No evidence for it" is the correct answer.
No evidence for it or simply we don't want to look for... Whatever but basic question remains that nothing can't come out of nothing.
@KiwiPokerPlayer Do you believe other life forms outside of this world?
@@pushtostart1377 Of course. The idea that life on Earth is the only life in the universe is absurd... sorry it took 4 years to answer. There must be systems out there that contain life. The universe is pretty big.
Mike Merrifield is awesome. Such a balanced, normal, respectable, non-virtue signaling answer.
my thoughts too
Dr. Kaii +
yep My most watched playlist is the Mike Merrifield one. He's the best
He is. I've even emailed him about an expedition we did in Elite Dangerous (space game) and he replied. Great guy
whoa nice find wrindwolf
my departure from religion really began the first time i saw the hubble deep field, its amazing
I love this channel
I'm not a highly educated person as these guys. I only have a bachelors degree. But I have done a lot of "research" for myself about the question "is there a God?" over the years of my life, and I have come to the conclusion that based on the lack of proof and the bible's inconsistencies with our scientific understanding today, I do not believe in God.
In spite of this, I have respect for other peoples beliefs, and I also understand that some people find comfort or "need" to believe in God. So as long as people don't force their beliefs (that goes for atheists too) onto others, or that the religion they practise cause physical or psychological harm to others, I am perfectly fine with it.
theists cannot help but cause harm to others! its a nasty mental illness and should be eradicated
I think black holes are very interesting.
Finally someone who has a meaningful comment. Physics is interesting. Newton knew that, and he was the father of Physics. He also spent half of his life studying the Bible.
Just a quick note on transubstantiation since the guy in this video got it wrong. It means a change of substance which, in the Aristotelian definition, is a duality of matter and form. Changing the matter (the physical bread in the Eucharist) does not necessitate a change in substance. A change in form, however, does. The doctrine of transubstantiation holds that the matter is the same as before, bread, but the form is now divine, thus constituting a change in substance.
does it really matter? his point was that he was told there are some questions you shouldn't ask, which didn't sit right with him
So much butthurt in this comment section.
Actually everyone here agrees with each other lol. Like a bunch of mindless zombies.
Doesn’t it also take a leap of faith to believe so firmly that there is no creator and we’re all here by mathematical chance and random chemical reactions that led to our creation?
No, because that isn't asserted as scientific fact. That's just the assumption at the moment, but in the future we probably will figure out the origin of life and the universe in greater detail. It's better to admit you don't know something than to just make up an explanation with no evidence behind it.
@@sekhmet7774 why would that show the lawgiver doesn’t exist?
@@sekhmet7774 So if I find a book with a coherent story, proper syntax, and grammatically correct sentence structures, is it not reasonable for me to believe that an intelligent being wrote that book, or is that too big of an assumption and I should instead just say "Gee, I wonder how this book got written?" The apparent design IS evidence.
Believing in gods is no different to believing in lepricons or smurfs...
aha. didn't know that actually. thanks for the answer :)
If I may hazard a guess, it seems that what Professor Moriarty DOES believe in is “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”. 🙂 (As do I!)
To you the light has been traveling for 10 billion years for the photon the path was instantaneous
Joshua Lansell-Kenny yeah because at the speed of light time stops. so the light "feels no time"
+Jake Sutter Time is a debated subject, theres many ways someone can perceive and interprete time, where i won't elaborate on, but theres evidence that time is the same in any situation, whether you're a snail or travelling at the speed of light
I love Moriarty!
Working on it right now. I already have a Bachelor's in Aerospace Engineering and currently taking classes for a Master's in Computer Engineering.
Did you finish?
@@ERROR204. Yes - December 2017.
How can 1000 people dislike this video?
Our minds are never going to be able to contemplate infinity, and even when we know everything we know, there will be something out there we couldn't imagine. It might not be whats written, and it might not be whats been said, but if the search inspires any scientist, then just like anything else, its worth pursuing. The only danger is fundamentalism
0:52 hitch hikers guide to the galaxy reference
that was awesome
"Scientists are closed minded and arent open to god. Shouldnt a good scientist be open to god? Why is a lack of evidence enough to reject god? Scientists' [and humanity's] knowledge of the universe is very limited."
Ok, so you think you know more about the universe than these physicists? Go on...
well should'e saw it coming guys, asking a scientist if he believes in god is the same thing as asking a catholic priest if Allah is their lord and savior.
rationalmartian Well, It's not like majority of scientists are religious because the majority of them are not. And these are chemists, depending on your field your view changes. It's like saying America is an English speaking country then say "No it's not, a lot of people in america don't speak english".
Actually, I wanna become a physicist, and I'm christian
Johnny Nguyen America is a pretty big continent. The most popular language is Spanish; there are also several tenths of millions who speak Portuguese.
***** your an idiot
***** you probably do hope that, but that's impossible. It will happen to you though
Sixty Symbols, please disable the comments as people will start making flame wars over religion. Oh wait, they have been for the past 3 years...
S-someone disagrees with me?! Silence them!
You made the spaghetti monster mad!
"give us one free miracle,and we can work out the rest"TM
I honestly don't think this is a scientific question. It's a philosophical one.
+Allison Forest ok
+Allison Forest Philosophy is just science without experimental proofs.
Agreed, but how often does the statement "there's no evidence that supports it" relevant to philosophical debate?
+Allison Forest If you start looking into metaphysics, existence of evidence does come up in the debate. The whole question "Are we living in a virtual universe?" is directly related to science.
It would be a scientific question if there were any evidence. Those who have faith should admit that it is faith, belief without evidence. If there were evidence, it would be called knowledge (acceptance of a high likelihood based on empirical data.)
"No. Absolutely not. No evidence for it." Exactly.
@alice hatterz can you elaborate?
@alice hatterz idiot
@@flygandeskote1702 any evidence for evolution?
@@margaretirvine131 YES....Yes there are more than a 1000 experiments that prove evolution and that the Darwin was right
John Stasinopoulos can you explain that? Because I just read about how thousands of PhD scientist are now denying Darwinian evolution
Scientific method :
- Make an assertion.
-Try to prove it wrong by all means.
-If you can't then it is probably a true assertion.
Say what you want about faiths and beliefs.
I still think the Greek (and subsequently the Roman's) and the Germanic pantheons and myths are really elegant.
1:48 to 2:12 ..."Science adjusts its views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved" - Tim Minchin.
Ironic how spiteful both seem to be. Why do you believe science went the opposite direction than the spirit?
@The Mountain I definitely agree. But to those that dont know the spirit is a real thing....
UM WHAT DID HE SAY ABOUT THE GIANT SPAGHETTI MONSTER 😂
Well, there's really no evidence (pushes glasses onto forehead)...Uh...the...well (stares at camera and smiled) ..uh..yes I don't...
Is it scientifically safe to say that universe had a beginning?
They did a video on it. It was given to him, and he thought it had nice pictures :)
Which god? There are like 3000 of them ...
I would like to apologize to some of the scientist and particularly the one who was once Catholic. I am sorry that your priest and catechist did not give you a proper answer. The true Catholic does not forbid questions but seeks explanations and answers. Part of the fun of faith to the discovery and I think that is also the fun of science. I guess that I why a good many of scientist and been Catholic Monks like myself. I do wish you all well in your research.
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
― Werner Heisenberg
+#1 Cartmenbrah (Original) Very deep errr philosophy from a Beavis and Butthead fanboy or whatever you got there.
"All the good work it does" is balanced out by the harm it does too, but regardless, just because someone does good things doesn't mean his religion is true right? (And just because someone does bad things doesn't mean his religion is wrong)
Also, there are secular groups who do good work too