Haaland and Mbappe is GOOD but Messi was already the GOAT at 23!
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- Mbappé and Haaland is GOOD but Messi was already the GOAT at 23
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Statistically, he is the best dribbler and goalscorer of this era, and of the best playmakers of this era. It is bittersweet that a great player like Ronaldo had to share his career with a monster like Leo.
The only 2 things he was and still missing are showing up in big moments and lacking a lot of character and hunger to win, that's why i tend more towards Ronaldo who made me fall in love with football next to the one and only Ronaldinho in 2005/2006 back when he was a winger/midfielder and was dribbling like nobody and literally revolutionized the PL with his flashy but effective play style and most importantly playing with a lot of passion and hunger to win and be the best, but other than that Messi is the biggest talent in football history period
@@ceronibalsamar5352 man said Messi has a lack of character and hunger to win
@@ceronibalsamar5352 Messi had 1 game winning goal in champions league finals. Ronaldo has 0. Everyone says Messi had Xavi and Iniesta, but Ramos and Bale saved Ronaldo and Madrid in multiple champions league finals.
@@driloni mesis se hace chiquito contra bayern y real madrid
@@EdwinSalgado999 winning goal? 😂scored 1 in a 2-0 win vs man u and another goal in a 3-1 win, idk what's your definition of winning goal but Ronaldo scored 1 against Chealsea, 1 against Atletico, 2 against Juventus and other than that it's not always finals, big games are moments where your team needs the most, Barcelona vs PSG it was Neymar, Roma he fumbled, World cup final he fumbled, against liverpool he fumbled, against Bayern he fumbled over and over, Copa america final against Chile he fumbled and i'm not going to bring up recent moments because he's old and shit happens, on the other hand Ronaldo saved his team against werder bremen with a necessary hat-trick, another one against atleti when he was with Juventus, another one against bayern in the semis, the Copa del rey header in 2011, another important hat-trick against Atleti in 2017 CL, 2004 euro winning goal against the netherlands in the semis, his 2 winning goals against Switzerland in nation-league semis, the hat-trick against spain in 2018 WC, his goal in 2008 that sealed the PL and his goals vs barcelona in 2012 that sealed la liga, his winning header against Millwall in 2004 to win the FA cup, his backheel goal against Hungary in 2016 to save Portugal in the gorup stage, his crazy long-range important free-kick against Arsenal in 2009 semis, his header against wales in 2016 euros semis... and the list is long, i probably forgot many other important goals where he was needed and showed up and those moments are a huge part of Ronaldo's identity and there is a reason why he's by far the king of the biggest club football competition and i'm not saying he never fumbled the bag, but he showed up way more than Messi did in tough moments and nobody can deny this fact.
Messi V ronaldo is the most forced debate ever
Facts
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They’re the two best ever idc about the rest
don’t do that
This nothin but faxed most forced debate Messi just different
he is 35 yo and he just scored his 2nd freekick in a row yesterday with psg, already 19 G/A in 14 games with 11 goals and 8 assists
Ligue 1 tho 😕
@@ceronibalsamar5352 argentina 2 games this season : 4 goals, 1 assist
@@_rassim__6306 You mean Jamaica ?
@@vinsmonkonoa1250 and then what ? you saying he shouldnt score against them ? if he scores u gonna say its only farmers league its only jamaica honduras and if he doestn u gonna say its only farmers and yet he didnt score and still mock him,
@@ceronibalsamar5352 why does that matter its still a league its still difficult to score in
Messi goalscoring peak was 2012 he scored 50 goals in La liga alone and 73 goals in a single season and 91 goals in a calendar year in just 69 games on top of that he got 22 assists no one in football history has ever scored that many goals in a single calendar year some say he's the greatest and statistically he is the greatest.
Look at top 10 goalscorer of last decade, messi is at top
Look at top 10 assist provider of last decade, Messi is at top
bro already had 4 ballon d'ors at 24💀
No he hadn’t
@@vinsmonkonoa1250 25 not bad
@@wowo1005 i just hate when people say fake stuff without verifying just cuz they saw it on TikTok like the legend of Messi having 3 ballon d’or at 23 or 4 at 24
MESSI IS MORE THAN GOALS WITH SO MANY GOALS 😂🙌
???? Rip grammar 💀
@@srgdvsdsfadewfaefas4013 nah man it makes sense if u think about it
Wtf did i read lmao ☠️☠️😂😂
@@Mr_Nobody_18 what do you mean? He clearly said that messi is more goals than goals lol
Good luck to Halaand trying to reach 91 goals in a year. If he stays injury free i feel he can score atleast 75, but 91 seems like an untouchable record.
At the rate he is now it's very doable
@@mauriciolandos4712 He wont play in the worlds cup, so thats some games less.
@@stefankatsarov5806 and dropping out of the UCL
crazy thing is messi was injured at the half of the season
The only final so called mr champions league has ever lost is to LIONEL MESSI THAT TOO A TOWERING HEADER FROM MESSI
bro literally the best dribbler, goalcorer, and playmaker of all time that crazzzyyy
la liga is and was always the best league only england fans make it seem like prem is the best league
Goated reactions
When you watch Messi at his best, you'll understand why no one will ever change my mind on who's the Goat. Players like Ronaldo come every generation but Messi is a once in a lifetime kind of player. The benchmark for best all round footballer, he got it all.
I see many people whining on my comment saying that players like Ronaldo don't come every generation 🤣. The fact is that players with the same play style as Ronaldo are a lot but they just fail to reach their max potential and some of them lack consistency. But for Messi, I have never seen anyone play like him ever, Messi is a full package, 780 goals, 330+ assists, passing ability of De Bruyne, dribbling ability of Maradona, free kick skills.
Agree. Ronaldo is a top 1% while Messi is top 0.0001%
@@LustyyOG very well said
Ah yes every generation has a person that beats every record like ronaldo😭 you sound silly asf. Both messi and ronaldo are once in a LIFETIME.
Facts! Halaand is the Ronaldo type player, but I can't seem to find that one Messi type player. Shit's rare! "Once in a lifetime kind of player" for reals!
@@realraphaeljr haaland play style is like modern Ronaldo but not career Ronaldo. Ronaldo could do everything EVERYTHING in his prime. Haaland is a poacher.
Sometimes when I watch Messi and I remeber that he will retire in the next years,I feel like crying.
The Greatest there ever will be. 🐐
We can compare stats between Messi and Ronaldo all day long. But Messi just has that watch factor, when you watch him play you're just in awe. Ronaldo doesn't have that in my opinion.
Here's how I'd put it: Ronaldo is a machine. A robot. Messi is just an artist. His football is just free flowing art.
It depends what of those 2 you prefer.
This is the difference between cr7 Messi and then Mbappe and haaland.. the first two still produced extremely magical moments in those huge games with so much pressure.
Young Ronaldo was lit too but Messi goated fr , both better than Mbappe and Haaland
Lionel also destroyed prime Manchester united with Ronaldo, Scholes, Giggs, Ferdinand, Vidic and Rooney in the 2009 CL. Ronaldo is the player with the greatest work ethic and work driven mentality but Messi is just natural talented.
If Messi wins the world cup the GOAT debate is literally 100 percent over. I pray he does...pls Messi!
HE WON!!!!
he did🥰
The Best Dribbling and Playmaking ever
Statistics are gonna be broken sooner or later. But Leo's genius is untouchable. U don't measure that. He is football!
That is true FIFA is planning to change it soon. So ronaldo and messis records might be broken easily now.
Haaland is a killer infront of the goal but he's the one who gets the last pass playing as a CF. Messi killed whole teams, to get his goals back then. Haaland could never do that. Ronaldo couldn't do that neither. This video would be a decent career highlight for every player, he did that in just one year and he had multiple even better than that.
3:02 he still got it, if you watch a psg game live you will see🐐
its literally simple. the greatest dribblers of all time are Messi iniesta and ronaldinho. the greatest passers of all time are Messi xavi and zidane. the greatest goalscorers are Messi, pele and ronaldo. the players with the most trophies are Dani alves and messi. Messi is in each and every bracket of those 4. its crazy how good a player can be. all this and messi has one of the highest football iq ever alongside busquets and pep. Literally the goat
Infesta a better dribbler than Maradona?
I watched many players in their prime, lets say starting from 2004 when i understood football completely, i can safely say that Messi is the best i've witnessed
The most complete footballer to ever grace the game. I respect all the others but how can you watch him and not see the difference
7:30 Cristiano’s bag was DEEEP back in the day. Especially young Ronaldo. You don’t see too many dribbling highlights from him because he switched roles early in his career to a striker goal scoring role but don’t get it twisted. His bag is DEEP
exactly!!!!
He started watching football last year you can’t really blame him
😑😑 you switching roles or positions don’t mean u can’t dribble nomo. If u can’t, u can’t!
@@Z4K11 true true just tryna inform him
@@realraphaeljr In Man U he was known as a dribbling flairy type player. In Real Madrid he became a complete player.
the best compliment ronaldo ever received was every time he was compared to messi
I think Messi was meant for greatness, but playing and competing vs Ronaldo made both of them what they are today.
Halaand and Mbappe are great but they have to compete against teams and superstars of their caliber to further improve, also i hope none of them gets a career threatening/ ending injury as they're still in their prime.
Honestly you could erase half of Messi's goals and he'd still be in the goat debate, I don't think that'd be the case with Cristiano. In fact, seeing how monstrous a goalscorer Haaland is, I think Haaland could equal Cr7's legacy on the pitch (outside of it is impossible I believe, considering he is a mediatic monster), but not Messi, because Messi is like a combination of Cr7's goals, Maradona's dribbling and Pirlo/De Bruyne/Modric vision and passing
Nah bruh I love Messi but I also gotta show Ronaldo some respect. Both of these goats were doing incredible things in their youth, something I’m not sure haaland, mbappe, or anyone else might be able to recreate. Stats may say one thing but watching the games and seeing the magic of these two was something else
For people who knows ball knows Messi is by far the greatest player ever to touch the ball and it's not even an opinion it's a fact! 🙌🏻✨
U got to react to David Villa honestly a underated legend He even is Spain's all time top goal scorer
Ronaldo was less skilled as a dribbler but had more speed and scored headers. Ronaldo also used weird skills when he dribbled but when Messi ran at players he just glided past them like nothing.
The reason why Haaland can be better than CR7 but not Messi is because Ronaldo was more of striker like Haaland, but Messi was a dribbler/playmaker/goalscorer that’s why he’s the goat,.
Goat❤
Bro your football reactions next level man 🔥 you are the real deal. Keep it up
And guess what! Messi is back! This season he's just a monster!
Did you react to Messi vs Arsenal where he scored 4 goals? Always been one of my favorite memories.
2,3,4,5.... doesn't get you a balon d' or. Any person that knows anything about football wouldn't evaluate a player based on one quality only, it has to be a collective variety of qualities. But yes Haaland is a beast and who knows what he will become. But for the ballon he needs a few years. Messi at 23 got everything, and he played like that since he was 3 years old, the difference is that now people notice Messi, but he always scored 3 or even 5 goals in one match consistently his entire life. Heil Messi! (Try to find the Argentina-Brazil [4-3] 2012, Giants Stadium. First time Messi played Neymar and met. I was at that game, Messi scored 3 and the last goal in the last minute to untie and win the game was the best game I've seen in my life, live or anywhere. And I'm 42, I've even seen Maradona play live. But Messi was the GOAT at 23 already and 3 Ballons and 3 champion, who beats that? I.ve been following him since he was in La Masia 15 years old d because I'm Argentinian, I've seen every single game he played and he always scored, sometimes many times in one game, and always so many assists and dribbles. You are just happy if you had watched him all his plays and goals live or even at some stadiums.
Bronco with the fade I see you !!
The only thing that cristiano has over messi is pure god given physicality. The only thing ronaldo can do that messi cant is purely based on something you cant control. Its not close.
In terms of talent Ronaldo is touchable but Messi is not no doubt you need to be born with talent for either type of player but Messi is the generational talent while Ronaldo has talent but he was the hardest worker of his generation usually the era get one or the other never both because the guy who usually is born with talent gets lazy and after while lose the drive because the game is too easy for them. People don’t realize with being gifted Messi talent you also need his mindset of wanting to be the best for 15+ years and most people with his talent lose the drive after 5 to 10 yrs and some will lose it after 1 year. But it’s is a blessing we get to see the child who was born to play a sport never get tired or lazy he always wanted to be the best player in the world and always wanted to win that’s another thing he doesn’t let his talent get to his head. Ronaldo’s get born every other year but most of them don’t have his mindset and work ethic but a lot of them will get close but a lot of us will never see another Messi our children might but that will be rare thing
W bronco
Goattttttt love from South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
When he turns mad around 4:33 he reminded me of that Mario brown mushrooms 🍄 😂
@Da Bronco speaking of your notice of commentator in this compilation, you should do a React video to "Roy Hudson loosing his mind on Messi" video.
6-3 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's the same Bronco! Like haaland is a scoring machine like Ronaldo and Mbappe be shifting around the pitch like Messi
Mbappe be shifting around the pitch but not like Messi please don’t say that again
@@primetime_drc8852 I'm just saying Mbappe dribbles
@@Reina_Kousaka I understand what mean
At 24 he got his third ballon d'or and at 25 his fourth. 28 his fifth, etc.
When RUUD GULLIT says he is out this world then the gravity of it is just something else
Mbappe is only good because The French league is weak. Messi was the best in the Spanish league something that's difficult but that helped Messi cement his legacy as well as CR7
the fact is that most ronaldo fans are either real madrid, juventus or man u fan. Nowadays its hard to find a ronaldo fan who doesn't support those 3 clubs, and actually watches football consistently.
I mean why would a barca fan (or other big clubs) be a fan of him. He litterally destroyed every of those clubs 😂😂😂😂
@@Z4K11 Destroyed Barca?? 👀👀
MESSI 🐐
Ronaldo built his empire on work ethic, there will be always the next hardest working player, but a bigger talent given form the gods never this man shared his gift with us all
They call him an alien for numerous reasons
And this was in a single season. 🐐💙❤️🇦🇷
Never just focus on goals
Messi is shy, timid, and humble like the geniuses
Sorry but he's not timid, he's as stuff as anyone could be
🐐 reaction to 🐐
Haaland and Mbappe can have 800 goals plus and be better than ronaldo but not Messi. Haaland is at the right place at the right time. Haaland and Mbappe will never reach Messi's dribbling,passes,assists,. It's gonna be hard for haaland and mbappe to continue his goal scoring streak his entire career like ronaldo and messi. No disrespect to haaland and mbappe they have enormous potential
Its amazing how reactionary everyone is. Haaland has to score 45 goals every season until hes 37 to reach ronaldos goal tally. Hes amazing but hes not gonna pull that off (he has an injury record). And people conveniently forgot ronaldo is in the top 5 for most assists, goodluck to haaland for beating that lmao, considering hes a poacher.
@@riszulu he already have 170 goals and counting at age of 22. If he go with 45-50 goals per season he can break cr7 record at the age of 36 but the biggest question mark is longevity and form to continuously banging same amount of goals
I'm argentinian. Of course, a Leo's fan.
If we're going to compare Leo with any other player in this GOAT debate, it must be Cristiano.
Cristiano got 5 Ballon D'or in the Leo era. Mbappé can't even get one when Leo is about to retire.
That should tell you HOW GOOD Ronaldo actually was, that he was capable to hold ground to an absolute monster.
Not Mbappé. Not Haaland. Not Pelé. Not even (God forbid me) Diego.
Leo and Ronaldo are in a whole different category, they are truly two of "one kind".
Next up: Ronaldo (Nazario / R9 / Brazilian) before the age of 23. His form before his knee injuries in Inter = the would have been GOAT.
Only Pelé had an equally insane teenage rise to fame, but we don’t have as much footage of him.
Respect to this guy for calling "sokker" football,even thought he's American, respect
I like both cr7 and messi, it depends what kind of player your like more to say whos better
What is the name of the instrumental Bronco is always using in his videos @0:10 ?
Messi is the best player ever
Pls do Messi vs Ronaldo in matches they both played
Exactly Eerling Halaand is a physical specimen he is physical, strong and fast with 99 positioning, Mbappe is like R9 he has all the qualities needed his dribbling is op his technicality and ball playing attributes is op he is very complete and explosive player.
He needs to pass the ball a bit more, or train on his positional awarenes, when he gets the ball he gets too focused on his oponent and dosnt notice a teamate that is free and has a good shot at the net. Also he needs to train a bit more on long range passes in the goal ( resently he tried a lot of them in PSG and France, all being kiked too high). And afcorse his off the pitch atutude is a bid lacking.
If he fixes thouse problems he will be very complete.
Neymar curently is what Mbappe can be ( whit the added speed).
Ronaldo is a phenomenal player too 3 greatest all time but Messi is the arguably the best goal scorer of all time (highest goals per game in modern era the same way people say Michael Jordan is a better scorer than Kareem even though Kareem had more points) while being the best dribbler and playmaker to ever live. He is on a different planet to everyone else goat by far
You are right Ronaldo cant dribble like that, but they are different players. You cant say Messi is better than Ronaldo because he is better at one thing. Ronaldo is more of a winner, is a better goal scorer, better technique, heading, and overall more of an athlete. Ronaldo is my goat.
Better goal scorer 💀. Dude do you know something called a goal ratio? Better technique? Ronaldo is just power. Better overall? Ronaldo only has more goals than Messi but Messi has more assists, chances created, dribbles, free kicks...so tell me what overall you talking about.
@@X21.. you fried him
@@keri7031 these Ronaldo fanboy got the worst reasoning ever and their logic is ass
I mean Messi scores more goals ad assists more, has better UCL stats, better stats against the top 6 PL clubs, better stats against the top 6 La Liga clubs.
What I would say Ronaldo has over Messi is clutchness, that being said if Ronaldo is the clutchest player ever then Messi is the 2nd clutchest ever so even there he's not far ahead. Don't get me wrong I admire Ronaldo more than almost any other athlete but Messi has a much bigger impact on the game besides scoring, that's why he has 300+ Man of the match awards while Ronaldo has like 170.
Not a better scorer or has better technique, idk if he even wins more matches compared to messi
where is the player career mode vid?
It’s in his gaming channel
@@possessedboy4908 i’m talking about episode 2 he posted episode 1 2 days ago
Ronaldo's Champions league with an elite club comparing with individual awards is completely bullshit.
Americans don't know about the playmaking and stuff
*messi is the GOAT dribbler
*GOAT goal scorer(more goal ratio than ronaldo)
*GOAT in Assist
*GOAT playmaker
Ronaldo is only a goalscorer with biggest PR work of all time.
Recommending you to watch Kobe about Lionel andreas messi🐐
Erling thorson is something else . If no major injuries he will break loads of records. He may Win the champions league sooner than mbappe
Love it when u react to the goat
BROOOO REACT TO XABI AONSO! THAT MAN WAS PURE CLASS YOU'LL BE AMAZED WITH HIS LONG PASSES
Erling should only be compared to pure topscorers like Lewandowski, Eto'o, Villa, Henry,Raul,Shearer,Batistuta, .. Comparing such players with masters of the game like Bergkamp, Baggio, Del Piero,Messi,Maradonna,Cruyff,R9 is a lack of understanding of the beautiful game. That's why we should put Zidane ,Pirlo, Iniesta.. in a different category than Gerard ,Lampard,Makelele,Kante.
React to Young Ronaldo was Insane
Messi is Bilbao’s kryptonite
Messi moves like a gazelle
Bronco, ronaldo is a legend but will never get close to messi standards, im sure you genuinely know messi is better
Haaland is pure striker Ronaldo early days at man he played left right mid so...
Huge respect to ronaldo for being able to compete with messi at certain times. Messi is the goat
Young ronaldo was a beast had a ballon dor 3x pl champion in a row people forget how good his dribbeling was also has the record for most dribbels in a match 🤐
And people say Ronaldo is better at heading because he is longer but that’s the same with Messi he is shorter he can dribble better
He was modded back then
Broski Ronaldo was untouchable u23 as well before he turned into a goal scorer. Haaland is comparative to Ronaldo from 2016 onward. But before then Ronaldo was a dribble king as well his bag and creativity was deep. Also Haaland will never have a season like this again. He’s never had one like this in his career. Not to mention a lot of the city players are aging and he came into the league just on fire instilling fear and just playing with absolute confidence right now. But eventually teams will learn how to defend him and pep guardiola won’t stay at city forever unless the sheikhs keep lining his pockets behind the scenes. Haaland will probably break the premier league record or most likely will. But he’ll never have a season like this again. It’s a once in a life time thing, he’s literally never done this before at the professional especially in the premier league he just brought a lot of shock value. Of course he’ll still be good but it’s like Messi that one year he scored 91 he never did it again. He was just in absolute smoke playing at an incredible high w insane confidence. But to do it your whole career is a different story. He’ll definitely be known as one of the best finishers or strikers of this generation no doubt though. But people are way to quick to jump on the bandwagon and honestly most of the kids online haven’t even witnessed enough football. They’ve never even witnessed Ronaldo in his prime or Messi. Like Ronaldo and Messi were in a planet of their own and they remain there no matter how old they get. Majority of these kids opinions on Ronaldo is based on the last couple years because they’re like 15 years old lol of course they don’t remember anything at 10 11 12 with all the media they consume, most kids don’t get into watching football consistently until their mid teens that’s why there’s been a huge influx in viewership and why the premier league has those insane tv rights. Kids just jump on bandwagons as opposed to a decade ago people would watch their team that their family grew up watching and tv revenue was more well distributed.
Nobody is reading that my g
Broski idc if you or anyone else reads it or not lmao if ppl wanna read it they can, if you don’t wanna read it then keep it pushing wtf ? 🤣
Lil bronco I think comparing haaland to Messi is unfair haaland to ibra is better
goat
Watch Messi’s passes bronco 😤
1:40 didn't Messi have 2 instead in 2010?
4:10 Don't get it twisted, laliga is still in top of the world no matter what ppl say, yes epl is the most entertaining league to watch, but most of the times spanish teams they smack the shit outta epl teams either in cl or el.... Just recently Real madrid spanked your top 3 epl teams...
Messi es mi ídolo. Lisa y llanamente en cuanto a la magia de verlo jugar, Messi está a otro nivel y por cómo cambió el fútbol, va a ser muy difícil encontrar a un tipo que haga algo parecido a él.
Pero me parece un debate que es al pedo está comparación. El fútbol es de eras. Es generacional. Mbappé es una bestia total, estoy completamente seguro de que va a romper un montón de récords y se va a convertir en el nuevo "mejor jugador de todos los tiempos" de su generación. Y luego vendra otro. Porque así es el fútbol.
Nobody going to comment that he did not have 3 ballon dor at age 23?
Haland has the potential to break ronaldo’s records but he will never be better than messi,what messi does is beyond records and stats no one can come near him
Haaland doesnt touch Messi, neither does he Ronaldo, BOI HAVE YOU SEEN YOUNG RONALDO??
Yes haaland and mbappe is very good
messi has won more titles than cr7 not to mention
Messi=🐐 it just like that
Messi won his 1st in 2009, at 22, and his third at 24, but he basically got that bdo for this season