The Unknown Physics of UFO/UAP With Avi Loeb
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Can new physics be learned from studying UAP? Is Omuamua an iceberg or a piece of Alien technology? Avi Loeb joins John Michael Godier to discuss this and more....
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Keep the long interviews coming! Never a bad episode JMG.
Always love Avi, and your friendship and familiarity with each other makes your conversations with him even better.
Agreed. I've found Avi has a tendency to be somewhat guarded in other interviews with people he's not as familiar with. John always seems to bring out the best in his guests with his open mindedness and really firm grasp on a wide range of topics which results in really great questions.
Thank you both for helping to destigmatize communication surrounding this topic. I appreciate both of your open mindedness and capacity to reflect.
So far every talk you've had with Avi has been excellent. Top notch quality thank you!
Another FANTASTIC interview, John! Thanks a bunch! 😃
There are lots of things to think about from what dr Loeb said!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
it wasn't his interview, its stolen audio from another youtubers interview and he has edited out the interviewer and put his own voice in.
czcams.com/video/86E03OzQDCo/video.html
We most certainly do not steal audio from anywhere. We've had Prof Avi Loeb on as a guest since literally the beginning. We've also had Dr. Brian Keating (the person of whom you're are accusing us of stealing from) on our show numerous times, including the Thursday just passed.
@@GoddaryuTUBE dude, you're freaking crazy! And not the good kind.
@@MCsCreations It literally is the exact same interview, same answers, same questions in the same order.
You know that the Universe keeps going when it is Thursday and you see an Event Horizon episode with Avi Loeb.
My favourite day of the of the week😊
Nailed it
The week starts on Thursday because of this.
Or are we in a loop?🤔
Avi Loeb is the 21st century Wolfgang Pauli, stamping out bad science wherever he finds it
Avi is an awesome example of high intelligence and logic packaged in a polite, articulate honest decent human being. Thank you for keeping our childhood curiosity alive.
Yeah, but he has become a clickbait factory for alien stories. I know it’s all to generate interest and make him money, but he just takes the smallest amount of information and finds a way to explain it with aliens.
@@cougar2013 That is exactly what the Lizid People want you to think!
@@cougar2013 Not to condone this kind of thing but maybe that's a response to mainstream science taking any little bit of information and running with it to say things are explainable WITHOUT aliens.
This is awesome having Avi Loeb back! I can listen to John and Loeb for hours.
Me too
Avi Loeb is my favorite returning guest. I could listen to John interview him all day. Thanks for the episode!!!
It makes me giddy to think about the day we all learn that we are not alone.🦋
These Avi Loeb interviews are the most fun of all your interviews. 😊
So far the natural explanations for Oumuamua have been just as strange and new as aliens.
Some rock acting a little weird and difficult to explain is 'just as strange' as aliens? you must be daft.
@@BartJBols Oh, you must be rude.
We know for 100% certain that life and artificial spacecraft exist in this part of the galaxy. We don't know that hydrogen icebergs and cosmic dust bunnies are even possible.
@@bozo5632 we know they arent ours though, so no, we dont know aliens exist and are capable of making craft like that. The more elaborate claim is the less likely, and aliens being real and visiting is VERY elaborate to explain a weird rock.
@@BartJBols We don't know that aliens aren't common. We do know that weird rocks are uncommon. You're making ignorance equivalent to fact.
@@BartJBols nothing even similar was articulated you need to listen critically. If you feel the need to be aggressively hostile there are plenty of pseudo science out there. We need to ask the questions and some may not be what YOU want to hear.
Just at 11 min in, Avi is so spot on... our species seems to do this with everything...
One of my favourite guests! Amazing podcast, as always! Keep it up.
Thanks! Will do!
Dr Loeb is a real scientist, kudos to him for not straying from the path to finding out what is true and what is not.
If more only more were like him..
Avi and JMG is a match made in heaven. Thank you both
Yep, you said it. I'm so glad Avi comes straight to the public through JMG's channel. It's just so important in my opinion.
I have long looked to the stars wondering who and what else is out there and always felt a longing to a deeper connection with the universe. The evidence that our world is being visited at this time by intelligent races from the universe is overwhelming going back to WWII. I did not find a convincing text about this topic that resonated and stirred me at a deeper level until discovering the books Life in The Universe and the Allies of Humanity Briefings by Marshal Vian Summers. I feel these texts describe the nature and intent of the extraterrestrial visitation occurring on our world and as the teaching puts it, this is not a visitation, it is an Intervention.
That makes more sense than most of those dam cartoon alien sparkling saviors from Arcturus with computerized voices. Sort of sobering though.
To quote Chris Mellon, "This is real and it's happening now."
Yes, these Briefings pretty much describe what I learned being a lifelong experiencer. Some other sources come close in parts, but this is the first thing I've seen that lays it all out so you can see it - who, what, how and why - I was floored. This is challenging stuff, people need to know. Life in the Universe is the second most important book I've ever read, after Steps to Knowledge, which describes what we need to do about this and how to go about it - this is preparation for contact. All free to read online, translations in multiple languages. Free our mind. Check it out, decide for yourself, and then pass it on.
Thanks for sharing. I have also found Marshall Summers' work to provoke a deeper understanding of the extraterrestrial reality for me. Before this, I realized the evidence but struggled to make sense of the UFO/abduction phenomenon... It is like the Allies Briefings provide the larger context, the big puzzle pieces to begin filling in the rest of the picture.
Hello, life in the universe is my favorite New Message book, whenever I read it I feel internally confirmation of the veracity of the information contained in this book, it is difficult to express in words what I feel, if you want to know what is happening in the universe I suggest reading this book, especially during the night when the world is silent and we can read and meditate on the subject.
Marshall Vian Summers' books are definitely a wake up call, thank you for mentioning them.
The world needs more scientists like Dr. Loeb!
I love Dr. Loebs passion in what he does. Huge fan of his mission and resolve.
Dr Loeb is such a likeable guy! I wish the best to him and his colleagues.
A magnetic personality. He doesn’t like compliments but it’s the truth.
Dr. Loeb does quite a few interviews. He seems to especially enjoy these with JMG. Thanks, to you both!
I love how Dr. Loeb doesn't seem to falter, sticking with his opinion through all the resistance. Chapeau!
I wonder if crowd funding would be possible. I look at CZcams UAP interviews with millions of views and I have to imagine some portion of those would be willing to contribute.
Best Dr Loeb interview heard thus far. Takes me back to my childhood and the wonder I experienced with my first telescope.
Science has always been dependable … trustworthy and open to new information. Acknowledged truths are changed when new information reveals the next step in understanding the fullness of that truth. Thank you, Dr Loeb, for keeping science humble in the face of arrogant scientists❤️
Hearing that the some part of UK press has integrity is a rare thing indeed!
Keep fighting the good fight Avi!
What fight is that?
I love him so much lol. So many science communicators (and scientists) like shitting on Avi Loeb for his original Oumuamua hypothesis, which again, has never needed to be unquestionably true (this is supposed to be how science works), and nobody has ever had to believe that Oumuamua was artificial (we're just still seeing the growing pains of the scientific mainstream culture being made to do science, and respond to science, _scientifically...imagine that),_ and my dude just doesn't let it get to him.
It's fantastic that he's found JMG's Event Horizon to be such a healthy outlet for him. I mean he really gets to come straight to the public directly here, he doesn't have to get filtered through a science media infrastructure that I keep wanting to give the benefit of the doubt, but who still, even 5 years later, continue to demonstrate that they're still failing to see what all of their problems with Avi Loeb say *exclusively about them,* not him.
Somebody needed to take on this role, and Avi was clearly the best person for the job. There is zero doubt in my mind about that.
Reminding everyone that this is the best channel on CZcams, next to the JMG channel of course 😂
Totally, and I love your username lol.
@@realzachfluke1 thanks, let hope you never get sent to my office 😂
911 Dispatcher: What is your emergency? Me: Help, I've fallen and I can't get up! 911 Operator: Sir, where are you? Me: Event Horizon! 911 Operator: Is there anyone there with you? Me: Yes! Dr. Avi Loab and John Michael Godier! 911 Operator: (silence) (hangs up phone)
Men in black are in route to your location
Dr. Loeb is the modern day Galileo.
Great episode! 👍
Let's be perfectly clear here. Galileo was directly persecuted, while Dr Loeb has the respect of a large number of people, including some people who can and do provide funding to his research.
Is Dr Loeb getting unscientific pushback against his approach, like Galileo? Yes, absolutely. Is he likely to be remembered by science historians of the future, like Galileo? I certainly think so. But one of the defining features of Galileo's scientific endeavors was the severe censure and punishment he was subjected to for his work. Let's make sure Dr Loeb doesn't ever experience that important parallel to Galileo!
Love it when Avi comes around.
Gotta Love Avi his intelligence, honesty and enthusiasm .. Paraphrasing him : "Govt you don't have to divulge secrets..JUST TELL ME THE DIRECTION AND TIME to point my instruments" love it.
I always enjoy your one-on-ones with Avi. Kudos to Avi for keeping it real. His courage to do real science instead of relying on popular "scientific sensationalism" for credibility sets him apart from others in his field. We must explore all options to find answers. I for one am grateful for Avi and of course for you John. You don't seem bothered by putting out lengthy content. And those of us that listen in appreciate it. Some people still do have attention spans to last more than a few minutes. Thanks for keeping it real John!
I love Avi, he's a rock star. The wanting to be left in space comment has cracked me up. I love the show, and y'all keep science honest!
Great show! Thank you EH! Avi is spot on and i think it’s so important to allow continuous discussion on these types of topics so all supported points are considered especially when publishing to mainstream outlets.
JMG asks the best questions, and has the best guests, Dr. Loeb being one.
Fascinating. The concept of time dilation whilst travelling close to the speed of light kinda turns on its head the idea of physical space exploration, replacing it with a one-way ticket to the unknown. Such an esoteric quest would probably mean sacrificing a mental association with Earth's existence & replacing it with a SuperAI alternative reality which would form the historical resource to live a new physical existence at Destination X.
Has anyone tried modeling how a magnetic field associated with a body consisting of ferrous material could interact with the solar wind? I could see that giving a push to something that doesn't produce any outgassing because the transfer of energy is by an entirely different mechanism.
That makes a lot of sense actually
John, you continue to do a fantastic job. Your talent stack is quite deep. Never disappointing.
The theory that ouemuamua has zebra stripes but only when no one is looking is the most convincing yet. I propose that such objects be named zebroids. Zebroids may be the first of a whole class of such objects, which may be found by not looking for them.
The reasoning that Avi uses to defend his idea of Omaumau is also the perfect example of why the truth of UFO's and other so-callled pseudo sciences doesn't need to be kept secret. The truth can be there in broad daylight and simply mocked and ridiculed until most people no longer accept the reality.
I love Avi's optimism. When he spoke of the negative mass engine and how time dilation would effect the passengers, it reminded me of the belief that the center of our galaxy is a super black hole or a collection of black holes. Well, every sci-fi nerd knows about the time dilation effect generated by a black hole. So it occurred to me that time dilation zones could exist across our galaxy as concentric rings expanding from its center mass. Naturally, that would effect interstellar travel, so I then began to wonder if the time dilation effect of the negative mass engine and the time dilation effect of a galactic black hole would interact with each other in some calculable way, and what that might look like. 🤔
the simulation would crash , 404 followed by the end of our existence
For fun, I asked ChatGPT:
Negative Mass and Black Holes.
Model: GPT-4

Someone on CZcams asked, 'I began to wonder if the time dilation effect of a negative mass engine and the time dilation effect of a black hole would interact with each other in some calculable way, and what that might look like.' What do you think?
The idea of a negative mass engine and its interaction with the time dilation effect of a black hole is purely speculative, as the existence of negative mass has not been demonstrated in any experimental or observational evidence thus far. Negative mass, if it were to exist, would have exotic properties that could potentially lead to interesting interactions with other massive objects like black holes.
Time dilation is a well-established effect in general relativity. In the presence of a massive object like a black hole, time appears to slow down for an observer near the black hole as compared to an observer far away from it. This effect is due to the warping of spacetime by the massive object.
Now, assuming the existence of negative mass and a negative mass engine, one could speculate on how it might interact with the time dilation effect of a black hole. Negative mass would have peculiar properties, such as repulsive gravity, which could lead to bizarre interactions with a black hole's spacetime curvature. In the presence of negative mass, the spacetime geometry might be further distorted, possibly leading to even stronger or weaker time dilation effects.
However, without a proper understanding of negative mass and its properties, it is difficult to predict the exact nature of such interactions. Any conjecture about the interaction between a negative mass engine and a black hole's time dilation would be purely speculative and would require rigorous theoretical investigation or experimental evidence to support it.
@@UnrepentantFenian Don’t forget to divide by zero
So time experiencing time dilation being time dilated by a bigger and possibly longer dilation of time?
@@kaycad9605 but is it central daylight time dilation or or daylight saving eastern time dilaton? Maybe like Arizona where time dilation is not observed like most other states?
Always great to hear from Dr. Loeb. Very interesting, thanks.
This is a great discussion. Thank you so much.
I've got a lot of love for Dr Loeb. And I'm particularly excited to learn that he's finally embarking on his asteroid retrieval project (whatever it's called). Whatever it turns out to be will be interesting, but that fact they may turn up anything at all will be astonishing. It'll be a great piece of science, and for me that's thrilling.
When you listen to Avi Loeb's scientific breakdown explaining the Ukrainian UAP claims, and the high standard of scientific scrutiny he applies to his opinions, it makes you realise his ideas about OmuaMua are well grounded and very well considered.
An excellent episode.
I appreciate Avi standing by his thought that Omuamua is atypical. The fact that other scientists cannot agree and even push against Avi's theory is just more evidence that Omuamua is not fitting into classic comet, asteroids characteristics.
I'm an avid sky watcher and I have to say I can understand why the ancients felt a reverence towards it. My experience, the first few months I started watching the sky the sky was not overly active but I enjoyed it regardless.
At one point I asked the sky to show me more! and I can say this... it answered! and my goodness some nights I was awe struck with wonder. I tell you the sky started to watch back, the sky knew I was watching!! I kid you not.
Avi my favorite guest, spittin' the real facts like usual.
Can't believe I missed this one. Fantastic as always , thank you.
Could listen to you and Dr Loeb all day
I love listening to Avi on EH. But sometimes he misunderstands John’s questions.
“Ask the taxpayers” wow, what a concept. Love it Dr Loeb!
Great interview with a great guest.
Something that a lot of people are talking about are "techno signatures" and describing various em frequency ranges and gas spectroscopy etc. I wonder whether an absence of data may be a techno signature in and of itself? If a Kardishev level 3 civilization exists and can control all available energy of it's galaxy, then it's stars will likely go dark due to dyson sphere analogue and or total consumption of the stars energy. They are likely to spread out on all directions, leaving maybe a few stars that are not worth harvesting, or for some kind of monument, or some other alien reason. I wonder whether the Bootes void could be evidence of something like that happening? I have no clue, nor academic training in this subject, but it absolutely fascinates me. Sorry for my naiveté. As I say, I'm fascinated.
Ross Caulthart has mentioned several times that the U.S Navy has known since the 1970s that before they are seen they give off a 3000 Megahertz? That's very interesting, measuring there electric magnetic field I'm sure has been done.
Yeah people have been saying for years that super voids could be techno signatures of a super advanced and old civilization. It's possible but kind of the most extreme case scenario, I find it unlikely any species is capable of changing that much of the universe that much.
I love your voice and your program and those songs you play on the background. This is so awesome 👏🏻 thanks for presenting..
I love this guy. He is a master class in brilliant scientific thinking. He's always so clear. Thank you for having him on. I don't always feel good about the world & stuff but knowing he's out there kinda makes me feel better.
Really looking forward too this one! Avi Loeb is one of the most interesting people on this planet!! Thanks for great podcast!
i just hope he doesnt go fulll "Michio Kaku" .. Never go full Kaku. 😂😂
Avi Loeb is a wise kind genuine human being. I love the way he says ,"dust bunny"; making it sound like a scientific term!!
Hi, I like when he taks "dust bunny" too :-) as a matter of fact I am not sure to the core what dust bunny is...;-)
This object is so weird, even more when it's the first interstellar thing to observe. Almost as it was destined to be found.
Great episode!
Name a more iconic duo than John Michael Godier & Avi Loeb
Thank you John. It's unconscionable how Dr Loeb is being treated.
So someone was claiming it was Schrodinger's Comet? It had a tail or not depending on whether we were looking at it? That seems... questionable.
Amazing just amazing ... ❤❤
Love your show man. Vive la event horizon
Favorite channel on CZcams!! ❤
Intressant som vanligt på denna kanal.
"Your world is a prize. It is greatly valued by others. You are unsuspecting and perhaps might assume that advanced technological races are advanced spiritually as well. But alas, this is not the case. The path of technological development, more often than not, leads away from real freedom and the true nature of spirituality as it exists in all manifest intelligent life.:
A quote from the Allies of Humanity FIRST BRIEFING:The Reality of Contact
Thank you!
Hey John, have you ever tought of inviting physicist Marcelo Gleiser to your show? I'm sure it would be great!
Loved the episode, by the way. Always good to hear Avi Loeb!
AVI LOEB!!! What a treat to have such a long in-depth episode with one of my favorite guests! I’m glad he continues to refute those political narratives with actual science!
Beautiful explanation 😊😊
simply the best; better than all the rest
Another excellent episode with Dr.Loeb.
The best speaker.
Alway enjoy these podcast.
Great episode as always. I miss the timestamps though!
Hessdalen lights in Norway definitely weird, great place for one of these sensor collection's.
Wish we could send something to chase Oumuamua.
its so good to know that mister Avi Loeb. is working to find that witch we need to known thank you for your work and that and those you gather for are in enlightenment ..
I really like Avi Loeb. His dedication to Oumuamua is a reminder that science is not as cut and dried as many people would like.
Thank you for this video
Ah man I love Thursdays!! Time to fire up the bong and fall into... The event horizon 👽
So good to see some " real " input into this , Avi Loeb , no Bullshit, and won't be Bullshitted to !! I love it !
Avi is very thorough...
John, next time you talk to him in light of this, ask him about Tabby’s Star and its Magic Dust.
Awesome content. Please add chapters.
I'll thumbs up any interview with Avi
Thank you John for all your work in bringing these informative Discussions to the world!
I IWILL SEARCH AND WATCH EVERY VIDEO WITH AVI AND WATCH THEM ALL . JUST CAUSE HES A NICE GUY.
Control gravity = control time (measured: gravitational time dilation.)
Faster than light, and wormholes are time travel, so they tell us that causality also is an illusion of time, and the future is changeable.
You and Avi Loeb are the Dream team…just gotta add the COOL WORLDS guy he’s good…
The world should be proud to have a scientist like Dr. Loeb thinking outside the box and a source of motivation for progressive-minded people. I was wondering whether the somersault-type movement of an elongated object having an uneven surface would eventually slow down its speed while traversing in space before picking up momentum due to slingshot-type action around, say, our sun. Any comments?
Avi Loeb is definitely an S tier guest
How it spins will nullify any normal surfaces causing an effect ,right , left , up , down ,reverse,or forward, equalizing temperature continuously in all directions.
I’m sorry but when Avi speak. All I hear is Dr doofenshmirtz and it’s the greatest thing ever
I like both good doctors... even if only doofenshmirtz makes me laugh
Platypuses forever!
Avi is AMAZING
I love this guy.
Sounds like the person who said Omuamua shows signs of being a comet when we don't looks at it is trying to borrow the same logical inconsistencies quantum physicists use, since it seems to work for them.
I was sceptical about bunnies made of dust living in interstellar space until I discovered there is also low hanging fruit. That bunny eating strawberries video is proof.
What I want to know is how those scientists concluded that 'Oumuamua was an ordinary interstellar object when we've only seen a handful of them at all and none up close.
Suddenly five years after it left our solar system Oumuamua was emitting hydrogen. These others have no real idea. Avi Loeb a man with a trail of integrity whether we're looking at him or not!
Excellent.
Can you link us to the papers that Avi Loeb is talking about?