Roland MC909 Overview - The Ultimate Groovebox?
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Got this when it came out, it's still one of my favorite pieces ever made.
It's kinda crazy how 20 year old grooveboxes were so much more capable. I don't get why the market went towards removing features and capacity.
If I had to guess, it's because PCs and DAWs took over for a while. So when grooveboxes were reintroduced, designers/manufacturers made them to be limited pieces you use in a studio setup (where the PC is the centrepiece), rather than something to make full tracks with (which they intended for the 90s and early 2000s grooveboxes, even if very few actually used them that way).
It's the only explanation I can come up with for so many modern grooveboxes not having song mode, having bizarre limitations (e.g. mono sampling, tiny memory) and so on. I don't mind too much if there's a good 'render stems' function, but I do prefer to work almost entirely outside the box where possible (except for mixing and mastering)
They saw the apple sales strategy and decided to string everyone along and make you a subscriber
Less features means less money spent on development and more profit. Elektron does it correctly - make it as minimal as possible (aka gimped compared to these classics), make it shiny af and market it cleverly and people will buy it.
Yeah, the MC-909 is a crazy midi machine too, you can output all the 16 Channels as Midi in realtime and play the internal sounds at the same time.
@@ramonkey2939 Software As A Service (SAAS) did not start with Apple nor will it end with them. It is here to stay when users keep on demanding new features or new users seeking access to legacy content. That aside I agree with your sentiment that the companies that do this shit (like modern roland zenology) are absolutely out of their minds and losing loyal customers.
Still got mine and a MV and MC808. Love Roland Grooveboxes. I always thought the MC909 was the best looking Groovebox ever made and still do. RZA used the MC909 on the Kill Bill movie soundtrack.
Just want to say a big thank you. I had a mc505 years ago. I got back in to synths with an mpc 2yr ago and your videos have helped me when I was stuck or needed to find an alternative method. Your vids are always concise and easy to follow. Just setup a new channel and put up my first little jam vids made possible thanks to your tutorials. Genuinely appreciate your continued efforts. Thank you once again.
Man I wish roland made a
MC909 X ,, thank you tubedigga 🙏
I had one and I loved it and it was priceless.
It was a do it all machine
I just got one of these a few weeks ago and it’s been so fun to learn to use. I’ve been dropping in samples and MIDI from Logic and it’s like a tactile de-construction of my projects. Very creatively inspiring!
Thank you for your demo. I was dreaming about this machine for 10 years. I finally buy one this week, and am very happy waiting for it.
Great Infotorial Tubedigga, now an MPC user, I just started using my MC909 again after storage for a few years just last week as an outpost workstation, and find most of the edit possibilities amazing for sketching out ideas or just mucking around. If only the workflow would be a bit more simpler, 5-6 Buttons to save a Pattern, hidden UNDO function, and the slightly complex sample management which had me often scratching my head, getting the right, final edited, truncated sample to its designated patch and saving it properly. I use to love mangling samples on the ensoniqs eps16s & ASRs. It drove me mad how confusing this could be on the MC909. The Chord & Arps edit is superb though, as are the FX, I actually like the Sequencer editor and its possibilities.
The biggest dealbreaker was Roland dropping the support for this Machine so early. I think this is where Roland began their policy of abandoning relative, useful new machines and giving them the super short shelf life, all the way up to Aira and beyond. I bet, they could of squeezed some great updates into this Machine if they wanted to. Including: Realtime Live Recording! I still don't get how they fuc*#% that up so bad, (knowing?) exactly what the masses where seeking at the time. What a shame. Resurrect the Petition!!! This slightly ugly box could have become the ultimate king of Groove Boxes. If anyone needs spare knobs or bits, drop a line, I have a second MC909 with trashed Audio-digital board which I never managed to revive, but don't ask for the white Softpads, their shot ;-)
I desperately need a mixer fader cap!!!
RPS...yaaaaaaa. Miss that on the 707. There were a lot of frustrating problems with this box. But the machine was a blast to program. The 707 is superior in many ways but the 909 has some great capabilities that are missing in the 707. I’m glad Roland finally updated the 707 with the phonograph efx that the 909 has. I use often for saturation and to add some age to my sounds. I do miss the boost architecture types of the synth engine found in Roland synths of the 90s. I continue to use the 909 backpack case for my 707. Best case ever!
Excellent overview! Neat trick with the 8bit samples, thank you!
I loved this video especially because there's not many videos going even a bit into the machine itself. Lovely sounds, amazing capabilities but the steepness of the workflow is kinda making me use my MC 909 as an instrument rather than a production station as it was intended. Can't wait for more of your material on this piece of gear!
Good overview of this machine. I've never used one but I have an MC-303 since '96. I haven't used it in years but it was fun for quite a few years. Obviously way more limited than the 909 but still fun.
My first ever synth/groovebox… regret selling it, love the rhythm mute function that I miss in the mc 909.
Great video, for the year it was manufactured this piece of kit looks amazing, even if it was manufactured now it would be amazing by todays standards am sure. Looks great condition too congrats!
I have made multiple albums using just the Roland MC909, I have sold hundreds of tracks to other artist I made on the MC909. My favorite sequencer on any machine ever made.
I’ve wanted one since I first saw it. Got the MC-808 and sold it. Bought the MC-909 and have had it for over seven or eight years. It’s my go to now. Bought a Meeblip Cubit Duo to start going dawless. I’ll never sell my MC-909
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Thanks so much for sharing. Always wanted one of these
The 909 was so big. Had an 808, but had to re-learn something every time I used it. For me it's got to be the MPC1 & SP-404mk2 combo. Just wish they had more buttons knobs and faders.
Great video Bro, thanks for all the tips. Much appreciated. You're beats are dope! Keep up the great production. 👍 👍 🔥 🔥 🔥
Thankyou 👍👊
Nice score Tube
Underground musicians from the darker genres of electronic music are using this equipment in droves. Very good for EBM, Darkwave, Industrial. There are also a number of synthwave musicians who have realized the power of the digital synthesizer of these machines. In the last 5 years I've seen musicians abandoning notebooks with Daws and returning to grooveboxes.
thank you for your work👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Picked up one of these for 300 bucks like new. Dude didn't know what he had. I haven't broken it out yet
You got a great deal! I payed $700 for used one from Japan.
what a classic beauty 👍
Thank you! This is a very Good and Instructive video lesson! 👍👍👍💥💥💥👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍With respect to you - Andrey from Kazakhstan!
EXCELLENT ! Thanx :)
Ohh. I’ve had one back in the days 😍😍
@tubedigga 26:55 I believe the 'Amp' function of the sampler section is what you're looking for in regards to fade-in / fade-out. There's also a plethora of parameters in the synth section to deal with the fading of individual tones
What a beauty
wicked vid!
Great video! I prefer the MC-505 over the 909 but I must admit that's actually a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. The 505 is a lot more limited without the sampling option but for some reason I like its lower resolution JV sound engine better than the cleaner and more hifi XV sound in the 909. But also I never used the sampler in the 909 that much which seems to be its real strength. What kind of setting do you use for the pads? Do you even use them at all or do you control the 909 with a MIDI keyboard?
It is almost, I have it 18 years now :-)
I'm wit that MC909 since 2003. I took it out of the box and was capable to use it. This year, I bought and MPC X. The approach to this wonderful machine is much harder.
Nice little spacecraft. I have an RS7K as my main craft. Lots of similar features on paper but wildly different in approach.
I had two 909s in my studio, but the sequencer was too limited. Now I have a MC-707 and I absolutely love it!
The opposite for me, the 909 sequencer is really intuitive once you get the workflow. I found the 707 a bit claustrophobic and couldn’t expand short patterns to anything more elaborate. The sample editing was also poorly implemented. Great synth engine though 👍
It depends on what you're looking for in a sequencer. An important aspect for me is high maximum resolution and flexibility. I want to be able to start programming notes in a 16ths grid and switch to other scales like triplet grids and back at any time without affecting what I have already written, maybe insert short triplets just for the length of an eights note, which is how some real drummers would play all the time, and go back to sixteenths again. I want the option to switch to a high resolution scale at any point in the sequence and insert a number of fast notes with a long decay time to mimick the strumming effect of a guitar for example. I hate the fact many companies started getting rid of this functionality in their new machines. Yes, having these options can make things confusing but why not offering an easy mode and a more extensive one for the sequencer as well like they did for editing the sound? It doesn't make sense to me that I can build sequences in the MC-505 from 1998 in a way the MC-707 simply doesn't allow me to.
@@Leviathan-mj8gi exactly… calling the mc 909 limited is a proof of not knowing the machine…
I did 7 white label EP's with the MC-909 as the heart of my studio between 2003-2005 while living in England. Still the best groovebox Roland has ever made IMHO. It still had a few bugs after the latest OS update and Roland abandoned its' development. Sold mine and replaced it with an MPC 2500 in frustration with Roland and I haven't bought another Roland product since.
I still miss the "Roland" sound from time to time and often miss this product. It was maybe 1 or 2 more patches away from total perfection and to this day, I still can't bring myself to forgive Roland for abandoning its' development.
I get it, Roland have this habit of making products that sound great and for the most part function well but there’s always gaps which are very frustrating. Akai, Pioneer DJ and Native Instruments are all guilty of it in one way or another, too eager to roll out the next product and leave the previous one under developed. However I enjoy the challenge of making older gear do things most people don’t make the effort to, as ever there’s a lot to be said for the magic that limitation can evoke.
Good overview , Maybe the second best groovebox , rs7000 is the best , albeit much slower at sample processing .😜
Now I want one even more! I have ZERO music/sound naking hardware... looking to buy my first.... I just love the way these late 90s early 2000s boxes look. Tho a mc 101 would prob be the best for me or even just a volca at this stage of starting a new hobby.... But man these look cool and do more than new
I had one 15 years ago. Still can’t forget it. The effects 909 has are REAL, especially reverb and lo fi filter. I am using an MV8800 right now, but still want 909 back. Roland went wrong with the MC808 , which was inferior.
Hello I have roland mc 909 and purchsed srx 01 expansion after installing it show when go to system info that its inside but i cant find it the the rhythm patch please help thnxs.
I haven’t got any expansions and have never installed any so I’m afraid I can’t advise
The SRX patches are listed after the preset patches.
Dope tutorial. I also always wanted one since 2002, but the mc505 was my first. choice (got the mc303 back in 96 so th mc505 was my next piece on my gear wish list since then). How do you fiind the sampler part sounding compared to say a S760 from roland?
I’ve never used an S760 but the 909 sounds great, I was surprised how good the sampling is. Editing can be a bit slow with long samples but you get used to it.
Great stuff...
By any chance have you had a play on a Roland Fantom XA ?
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Fantom s without the keys
ROLAND MC AL909
Great overview! It's a great machine but even after owning one for over 10 years, it still catches me off guard lol. Treat each section as it's own thing. Edit a patch.. *write*, edit a sample..*write*, program a sequence.. *write*. No global project saving like MPC or Korgs, but it's a true power house and still sounds amazing today.
Yes that's the only thing I find tedious, you can easily forget sometimes and lose an edit.
@@TUBEDIGGA Happened to me many times 😩
Also sample management needs care too. It pulls everything into ram when switched on. If you've overwritten or moved stuff from its original place,and select an old pattern, that feeling of dread can kick in pretty quick when it plays a tambourine instead of a snare lol.
3:56 yes, it’s a shame you won’t see many good demos about 909 on YT. I don’t mean they are bad, but these videos are just dated and in poor quality, especially when there is so much pottential inside this machine. I cannot imagine there’s such significant loading time between projects of 707, while the pattern switching is just seamless and you can even RPS them inside another project with 909. Obviously, this machine didn’t earn the reputation it deserves.
I used a 909 for a bit years ago, really liked it. Now I'm quite torn between buying one, or buying the newer 707. I know you had a 707 too at one point. Which do you think is the better buy in this day and age?
The 909 if you are into sampling and synthesis. It’s so quick once you get the workflow. The 707 went out the door because the sampling was too limited, particularly the editing features. They should be way beyond the 909 but aren’t much more advanced at all. Good machine and great synth engine but I could never get much more than basic loops and patterns out of it.
@@TUBEDIGGA cheers, I'm big into samples and sampling so I may well pick the 909 up 👍
Bought a minty mc909 the other day, used to have an mc505.
Does the the mc909 do quantised shuffles and swings?
Peace
Yes it has shuffle both during and after recording I believe
I love roland gear, gott an mc505 and. loads of other stuff...thinking to get an mc909 or mpc2500 - what do you recommend?
Mc909 blows it away mate. One is a sampler drum machine sequencer other is all that plus a full blown dirty late 90s of synths rave box. But it all depends on ur workflow . Mpc is easier to live with
Could you do a video dedicated to drum sequencing on these? Would be so awesome
It’s the best sequencer ever.
Anyone have master tuning issues on the MC909 when using external synths as Midi controllers ?
Haven’t checked in with the digga for ages, how is the 4X trading going?
It went brilliantly, shame I lost a load of subscribers who assumed it was a scam. My account came to a natural end, if I had managed to get others on board I’d still be doing it. Anyway, I made some decent returns.
I honestly wish Roland still made them large like this and with so much tactile control. The MC707 is obviously advanced in most areas but the tiny little screen is garbage, and it has less physical controls.
Great video giving a run down on this machine. would love to see a video breaking down the sequencer on the machine, I find it a little weird to use
Pas mieux que cette machine dans le genrs merci
I live in Tallinn. I wanted to start producing music on a groovebox or build my own setup, but I don’t want to start with toys with a plastic sound. Well, the store offered to buy me a 909, but I said that it was hopelessly outdated, although somewhere in the depths of myself I was afraid that I simply could not cope with it, I would not figure it out. There is a manual, but it is completely in English. And I don't know it so well. In general, please tell me how you got acquainted with 909 and is it really so scary
It took me around 4/5 days to get my head around the main features and functions. It helps to know the general architecture and fundamentals of synthesis. It’s absolutely not outdated and not at all scary.
I have never read the Manual at all, made new songs on it first 30 minutes of use. You will love it!
I have a mc 909 a roland D2 groovebox and a Mv 8000 any suggestions for how to get the best out of all?
All I can suggest is get to know each one inside out and then you’ll know instinctively how to use them together, or know which one or ones you don’t need and could sell.
My velocity pads are not working ?
i really wanna know if that Electric Piano in the beginning tune is a loop or a synth whether its stock or a plugin type thing. It sounded absolutely beautiful and I'm a big fan of E-Pianos.
It's a sample, couldn't tell you where from I'm afraid, captured it from a random sampling session
@@TUBEDIGGA no problem mate, thankyou.
@@adammasci9737 SRX expansion card piano sounds are excellent
Real time recording on the fly (without having to mode switch) would be good.
Does the 909 use 5v or 3.3v smart media cards?
I got the MC-505 but I did not find a suitable card for less than ~100 Euros, I don't plan to pay that, it's a real bummer.
A random complaint I have about the 505 is that output assignments are per pattern but I would love to be able to globally assign them per track so I don't have to manually do it for every pattern and wait 10 seconds when saving the pattern each time. Also, you need to save the sounds separately from the patterns and that also takes 10 seconds per save (does not sound like alot on it's own but it sums up and gets annoying quickly)
I’ve no idea about smart media voltage, I’ve always assumed they were just all the same.
It's 3,3 V in the MC-909, not the rare 5 V cards.
About assigning individual outputs in the MC-505 - Maybe there are different ways of doing it (like so many things in the MC-505...) You just press the TEMPO/MIXER button so you can see the changes in the display, then set the part mixer to EFX/OUT, hold down [SHIFT] and move the slider up until you see DIR1 or DIR2 in the display. The part is now assigned to one of these outs, no need to save the pattern at this point, you can tweak and write your patch, write the pattern and save everything when you're done. Yes, the saving process takes a bit of time but I usually don't mind being slowed down a bit when I'm using the MC-505.
Create a blank 'template' user pattern that's already got the outputs assigned as you want them, and start from this template
hi @tubedigga how is this compared to the rs7000?
perticulary how do they compare as midi sequencers?
I'd say the RS7000 is probably better because of the way you can interchange patterns/sections and kits etc, at least from what i remember with the RM1X which is essentially the same but without the sampler. I only had an RS7000 for a short time as i didn't like the sampling options. The MC909 is more basic in terms of it just being a standard pattern sequencer. I might be wrong but I remember how you can switch out the sections in the RM1X/RS7000 was great for variations.
@@TUBEDIGGA thanks for this! if you had an rs7000 still, what would be the best sampler to pair with it which can be well sequenced by the rs7000?
prices just went up lol
I forgot..
I made m'y best tracks with the MC 909
First ✊🏾
Congratumalations!
@@TUBEDIGGA lol
Where can I get that smart media card
It’s an XD to Smart Media adaptor. Maybe eBay or Amazon
@@TUBEDIGGA thanks I’ll try their picking up my MC 909 today
@@TUBEDIGGA I just ordered a 128 gb smart media card
@@ramonkey2939 How much did you pay?
@@MeneTekelUpharsin I can't remember what I paid for the media card or the 909
Good video but about halfway through it played no fewer than about 10 ads in a row. A bit excessive. Not sure if that's you or CZcams doing that but I've never seen that may ads in the middle of a video.
It’s not up to me how many ads are shown but there shouldn’t be 10. I’ve only ever seen 2 on any video, whether it’s mine, a channel with a large subscriber count or otherwise. Possibly a glitch.
I'll take my MC808 over the 909 anyday. The insane beats I have made on that thing is unreal.
I had the 808 for a short time, couldn’t stand it. I found it extremely clunky. Glad you had a better experience with it 👍
@@TUBEDIGGA Thanks man. To be honest I only played on a 909 for a couple hours and I have made over 100 beats with the 808 so maybe I'm just super comfy with it. I have an MPC3000 but I'm finding it hard to navigate through the menus and I have no direction so I gravitate toward the 808 because I know it. Great video though. Maybe I'll give the 909 another shot!!
@@TUBEDIGGA Digital stuff in general is absolutely rubbish, and pc plugins dont actually make music, they make data. if you want real sound buy analog.
So, what are your thoughts 10 months later?
I sold it about 7 months ago…..great machine but ultimately it was taking too long to program - in particular the naming and saving of samples. I like to be very organised so I can find things later down the line but it was a little tedious. Not difficult but just tedious. Sounded great, effects were also a little limited for my needs. Kind of regret it but not that fussed at the same time. Worth owning just to see its capabilities though. Overall recommended.
@@TUBEDIGGA Thank you very much for your answer and opinion on the 909.
The MC909 has two big disadvantages: it doesn't have the megamix from the mc505 (which is a big disadvantage while playing live) and it is not possible to record while playing (not possible to do live jams). If Roland ever solved those 2 issues it would have been a killer machine. Certainly the built-in compressor is great. We need a company to pick up development of the mc909 where Roland stopped. Maybe Behringer?
I performed live with it last night, smashed it. It’s all about how you set it up, it’s perfect for live sets.
@@TUBEDIGGA the MC909 has been essential for me too… nothing like it in terms of livese performance
I also love it for live performances
@@TUBEDIGGA Nice! What machines do you use for your performance?
@@MeneTekelUpharsin Just the Force at the moment as it’s more versatile than my other machines
I had a 909 when they released... good tones, but live, in a live set, it was pretty bad... there's no way to make good transitions from one song to another... just like the MC707, there's no way. The patches are from the XV line, I think, they are interesting, but they are already worn by time and she is a ROMPLER. At the very least, the MC707 is a ZEN CORE synth, despite only having 8 tracks (909 had 16) and only 16 clips on each track (that's truly a shame!). Anyway... I gave up on groovebooxes years ago and I've been researching the 707, but I didn't get excited... very few scenes and tracks.
Hello..i bought it when it' came out....long Time...
I sold it last year....
This machine is complète, yes....but i found that sampling was difficult to save...
I bought thé intern memory option.....afraid to connect it...
So... A big memory...
To save a song or pattern IS too much steps '.
D beam is not for me
Sometimes thé machine stops...and what you were doing is Lost....
So i was saving every 5 minutes....... maybe i was alone in this case...
Yes it' s a great great machine.....
Now i prefer to have
A drum machine
A sampler
A synth
And effects.
Thanks for the vidéo
Bye ‼️‼️
Nice video. I have the MC-909 and the MC-505 since around 2000s and can admit that the sound of the MC 505 is much, much fatter and less digital and clean then the MC-909. They sound thin and like crap compared to the MC-505. On the MC-505 you have a low-boost potentiometer which really shakes the club!! The MC- 909 doesn´t have a realtime megamix function, which is really bad. The arpeggiopotentiometer (which is a beast for creativity in the MC-505 and you can export them in realtime while playing as midi) is also gone! You can meshup patterns from another track in the 909 but you have to stop the engine completely playing and go to the edit menue and execute a copy... There are a lot more differences between them. You have to make your own sounds in the MC-909 with samples (you can put them as waveforms in the synthengine) because the factorysounds are not representing the soundcapatibilites and qualities of the MC-909. There is also a editor for both and in case of the MC-909 it opens up some additional features. For studio use the MC-909 is a great addition and masterstation (for Midi aswell) and for creating/exporting ideas to AbletonLive or another DAW great but for livegigs with a fat and warm sound, I always prefer the MC-505. There is also another issue with the MC-909. You have to be careful on the sides of this beast because the device will give you a little shock if you are sweaty!!! It is very noticible on the sides, where no painting protects your skin from the bare metalcasing! The device isn´t earthed somehow and sometimes it hurt´s me during jamming with the MC-909 and I am not the only one who experienced it (google it). Roland throwed out some updates for the MC-909 but they are bugged and I am very disapointed from Roland why they never got rid of those issues and gave us more updates and functions. If you have questions you can reach out to me, brgds
overall do yoy recommend it? Im still not quite sure, I got an mc505 as well and love it for the reasons mentioned. Im thinking to use it for sampling, synths and drums.
@@AnalogFlava Depends on the price, I do recommend it but as an sampler it is outdated and slow, the cheapest laptop is way faster. If you gonna build your own sounds and make sounddesign its a different thing because the MC-909 engine is very deep and capaple of complex sounds - don´t judge the factory presest, build your own and you will see. For an MC-505 user I do recommend it - you gonna have the best of both worlds and you will love it. Check out the pads and buttons, especially the pads gonna wreck after a while and most MC-909 have this issue today. Check also out if the device changes values randomly (the ADSR/Mixer-Fader or others sends random values due to dust in the faders and you have to pull and push them around 100 times to get them conductive again - check if a preset changes itself magicaly to * wich indicates that something has changed- then you go in patch edit menue to see which slider or value moves or use the editor or Midimonitor to see which CC is changing). But the pads are crap and gave up after 6 months of use and have to be replaced or cleaned. ** I forgot to mention that the mastering-section of the MC-909 is quite unique in sound and pressure - it´s a real secret weapon!! In the past I had some guys who could master it on Avalon or 1178 real analog but choosed instead to push all tracks through the mastering section of the MC-909, it´s different and somehow special and for me it´s one of the most overlooked feature in this beast. In my opinion you need a very big studio with top notch gear and a army of skilled studio guys to match the same sound^^ The device is capaple of much more than the most of us imagine and even Roland don´t know this. So think about it.
MC303 must be the worst, was my first piece of gear, still have it but the sound is just crap!
I like the gritty and punchy sound of the MC-303, especially for drums, it has a character on its own. When you've learned how to use the effects, you know how to make it sound good. You can have a 909 / 707 / 505 and 303 without any serious overlap between any of them, they are all great and have their individual strengths in functionality and sound character.
MC 303 is so bad that it's actually kind of good.
I had it twice and NEVER liked the sound of it. It sounds like a cheap 8 bit computer. It sounds like a very small speaker. I love all the possibilities, is AMAZING! but the sound quality is BAD! Sounds like a Boss DR 550. The stereo effects sound like a mono reverb. It lacks dynamic and width. And the reason is.... they put so many digital functions that the processor can not deliver, the bandwidth is miserable. Is like getting a Lamborghini that can only go straight... no way to turn, the wheels are fixed.
Just listen to it. Sounds cheap, no low end at all, just a very cheap midrange. By the way, I am 48 years old and graduated from Audio Engineering back in 1995, I have been around. If you are black and you are going to do hip-hop, this machine will work. If you plan to do electronica or something that sounds good, you will hate it. It will not deliver.
Every user is different and will coax different results out of it. It’s not the machine. I played live with it a few times and it sounded amazing on a proper system and made plenty of jungle tracks on it. It’s only downfall in my opinion was the slow editing and renaming of samples. And the fx routing was limited also. It’s funny you think it sounded like an 8 bit computer because I loaded a ton of 22 and 11kHz LoFi samples into it to conserve ram and they sounded excellent as well.
@@TUBEDIGGA Jungle has no dynamic, is noise.
@@vjreimedia 😂