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  • čas přidán 16. 09. 2022
  • In the game Hearts of Iron 4 there is a prompt players will often see. This video explains what to do if you get that prompt.
    The provisional government of France
    After a long and concerted effort to improve cooperation and compliance between our occupation forces and local civilian authorities, we are now ready to put control of blank back into the hands of a local government. This new government is made up of sympathetic civilians and is ready to closely coordinate with us.
    More videos on the intelligence to follow.
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    Title: Which option should you pick for the provisional government?
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Komentáře • 85

  • @hatless_spider
    @hatless_spider Před rokem +314

    Collaboration governments are actually incredibly powerful.
    You get access to 75% of their military factories AND civilian factories.
    Even integrated governments only give 25% civilian factories and 75% military factories to their overlord

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos Před rokem +10

      Do you get 100%+ puppet millitary factories out of collabs with Tsar Ferdinand?

    • @hatless_spider
      @hatless_spider Před rokem +4

      @@42carlos i believe so.
      AFAIK you can't get over 100% though 😁

    • @noxiss8975
      @noxiss8975 Před rokem

      + you can make division from his manpower

    • @Wickedonezz
      @Wickedonezz Před rokem

      @@noxiss8975 ew dog toucher
      Get out

  • @bog_w
    @bog_w Před rokem +262

    you can also use their manpower =)

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +73

      That's a great point! If you continue to occupy them you get the non-core manpower which usually isn't super good... however if you release them, you may get that sweet sweet garrison support.

    • @bigdiccmarty9335
      @bigdiccmarty9335 Před rokem +19

      @@Pydgin you can also train divisions using their manpower pool, drain the country of manpower in this way, then annex them again

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 Před rokem

      yep

    • @Plexpeak
      @Plexpeak Před rokem

      But how to use the puppeted manpower?

    • @inc0mingr0flc0pter
      @inc0mingr0flc0pter Před rokem

      This is especially useful as India during/after civil war, as Pakistan can typically be collabed before they rise up. This can give you millions of manpower to create colonial templates and having hundreds of large divisions.

  • @AngryDrake
    @AngryDrake Před rokem +67

    Really needs a repeatable "what is meta in Hearts of Iron 4?" intro.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +13

      I'm trying what they call a "cold one" in the biz.

  • @braziliantsar
    @braziliantsar Před rokem +78

    In the case of Vichy France, it's also always good to form them as you have a strong force in Africa, and it really helps when you suck at the game (my case, I understand why others might not do it)

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +16

      As Germany being able to release France as a puppet is super cheesy but man is it effective. I'm surprised it hasn't been patched yet.

    • @braziliantsar
      @braziliantsar Před rokem +8

      @@Pydgin Exactly! In real life, the Vichy forces barely did a thing in Africa (territory wise; I'm pretty sure their forces fought for the germans and italians there).

    • @matro2
      @matro2 Před rokem +1

      I like having that AI controlled army in Western Europe. Allows me to focus in the East.

  • @NotKnafo
    @NotKnafo Před rokem +17

    even if you click they are not ready yet you still have a decision in the decisions tab to release them as a collaboration government

  • @georgeofazgad2176
    @georgeofazgad2176 Před rokem +50

    I’m mad when you form collab government and they take your cores with them (collab Czechs take Sudetenland, collab France takes Alsace Lorraine)

    • @an2939
      @an2939 Před rokem +3

      i did a german empire run and i released france after i did the reintegrate alsace lorraine and luxemburg and the puppet took alsace lorraine like it wasnt my core *puppet and collab

    • @ZPheenix
      @ZPheenix Před rokem

      @@an2939 ye don’t u realise that is normal and it removes ur cores

  • @Pydgin
    @Pydgin  Před rokem +18

    Tomorrow there will be a follow up video on the "Prepare Collaboration Government" mission. On the 27th the new DLC By Blood Alone releases which changes Air and Navy. After it's out we're going to resume those topics. I'm also hoping to get a few more video out before than as well.

  • @cotefabrice1801
    @cotefabrice1801 Před rokem

    Quick, straight to the point, all we needed to know. I found the perfect video

  • @zartoon7534
    @zartoon7534 Před rokem +6

    Still wish you could choose states you want to keep if releasing a nation. Like Germany's not going to give alsace lorraine back to France!

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +1

      Oh that would be great!

  • @gameser6052
    @gameser6052 Před rokem +2

    It's also very useful to keep a free trade in a mid or late game because you can easily sell all your resourses and buy resources from your collabs.

  • @berkeihlamur4160
    @berkeihlamur4160 Před rokem +2

    I remember when I was Italy, I was collab governmenting in the eagen island of greece. So when I attack greece while at the war with allies I give all of it to my Island goverment and without agents I get a full greek puppet in my color. Which is so tasteful.
    It is so useful. When it helps you your occupation. You get more factories without a proper effort of agents and garrison. The samething is like reichkommisarriats. Through a focus you can get a puppet of your color just like collab government

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +1

      Yeah it's just like the reichkommisarts exactly!

  • @Bahns007
    @Bahns007 Před rokem +3

    Plus in some cases like France in this video, if you have land that you core but your colab government also cores, it gives your core to the colab government which is really annoying

  • @randomguy-tg7ok
    @randomguy-tg7ok Před rokem +6

    Posting random facts because I don't have LaR, round 3:
    Uhh... I've forgotten, because it's been so long since the last LaR video and I didn't write any of my ideas down.
    So, thinking up one on the fly: While both the Luftwaffe and RAF had active jet fighters squadrons in time for the Battle of the Bulge, RAF and Luftwaffe jet fighters do not appear to have ever actually fought each other.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      Ahh sorry bud, I've been busy IRL. Is LaR the only DLC you're missing?

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok Před rokem

      I only have them up to MtG, so I'm missing a fair few of them. Maybe I'll pick up the ones I'm missing when my interest inevitably cycles back to HOI4 from its current location at Vicky2.

  • @JiroInagaki416
    @JiroInagaki416 Před rokem +1

    Subscribed. Your video's are really concise and I appreciate how to the point they are. Can learn the meta without having to watch a ton of drawn out 10 minute videos/guides.

  • @pablo_escanor1681
    @pablo_escanor1681 Před rokem +17

    Doesn’t it also grant you access to another capital which delivers supplies to your troops and therefore strengthens your logistics

  • @berkkarsi
    @berkkarsi Před rokem

    I got a Paradox ad right before watching this video about the Pre-Order Bella Ciao song.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      lol, I guess the algorithm found the target audience.

  • @xenoxtrollik4150
    @xenoxtrollik4150 Před rokem

    Pretty cool trick but still it just makes your pc run just like in modernday in late game

  • @FogoPQ
    @FogoPQ Před rokem

    now i know what is meta, time to get the dlc with provisional governments

  • @szymonrozanski6938
    @szymonrozanski6938 Před rokem

    And this is why i play Hoi4 like EU4, vassal swarm.

  • @madensmith7014
    @madensmith7014 Před rokem +1

    As Japan, its always best to just let the Marianas out. More civies and you don't call them into the war so they don't get island hopped.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      Thank you!

    • @CheeseMan2916
      @CheeseMan2916 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah I remember through the focus I got like 3 extra civs for free lol

  • @neilangelomolleda7283

    In defense of Vichy France vs Collab. Please release vichy first and wait for 2 years for them to complete their focus.. then you can release collab. (wait for 100/90 so it wont decay) To get the insane buffs vichy gives to germany.

  • @fillipe4700
    @fillipe4700 Před rokem

    Nice

  • @benlex5672
    @benlex5672 Před rokem

    Collab government is really powerful tho...
    Not only do you get the factory, but you also get to tap into the manpower using puppet templates (which you will be able to produce a lot of divisions). Unless you can core the territory, the collab is always better for me personally. 20 times more manpower for your division is just way better unless you are playing Russia or China.

  • @biharek7595
    @biharek7595 Před rokem +1

    also, collabs slow the game down massively, so it's not really worth it. I imagine doing it with countries with chunks of manpower, as you can extract it easily using a few tricks.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +1

      More countries, more calculations... sometimes the game is a race against the late game lag.

  • @YungIsyan
    @YungIsyan Před rokem +1

    I like the fact that they have the same color. But when i try to create cool borders it always messes shit up. When i integrate alssace lorraine they give the territories back no matter what. Same with poland poznan gdynia and danzig😭 i cant create cool borders

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +2

      yea, it would be nice if you could "release" but do it state by state.

  • @jpegquack5922
    @jpegquack5922 Před rokem

    i always make all collabs possible when playing italy or japan

  • @ChalleonPlays
    @ChalleonPlays Před rokem

    Very good to know what benefits you when.
    The video seems to cut off a bit early for me might just be a Problem at my end though.

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +1

      I did cut it a bit abruptly to help with the view duration.

    • @ChalleonPlays
      @ChalleonPlays Před rokem

      @@Pydgin ah okay good to know it was intentional.
      Watchtime in percent is a very Important stat for the algorithm from what I know so I definitely get it.

  • @jeschoofs
    @jeschoofs Před rokem

    I always do it just to prevent border gore

  • @whitezombie10
    @whitezombie10 Před rokem

    It's hard for me to deal with resistance so I just release countries

  • @youraverageuser7039
    @youraverageuser7039 Před rokem +2

    I once made Japanese China in Taiwan and regular china had just lost a government battle against another warlord so I had shek as my puppet in Japanese China super based imo

  • @janehrahan5116
    @janehrahan5116 Před rokem

    Also the puppets look prettier.

  • @RunicRhino22
    @RunicRhino22 Před rokem

    Collaboration governments are really powerful, it's especially worth it on countries with a high civ count, but for more barren countries, it's not worth the time investment lost civs due to the operation

  • @Onion__Duck
    @Onion__Duck Před rokem +1

    I learned stuff

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      I also learned stuff :D

  • @titanlord9267
    @titanlord9267 Před rokem

    I don't like having puppets, mainly because I want more land, I often just solo france as Germany, I annex all of Slovakia as well, and solo soviets, I just prefer it

  • @hardlimiter4744
    @hardlimiter4744 Před rokem

    Don´t forget.
    If you have puppets with a special focus tree (start a war) you will have problems.
    That´s why I never have yugoslavia as puppet because they will always start a war, even as puppet.

  • @nesknero
    @nesknero Před rokem +1

    I just wish I wouldn't loose my cores when doing a colab

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +1

      Same, more granular control when releasing/returning territory would be cool too.

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 Před rokem

      Yeah they should change that. There are mods for it but you can't get trophies

  • @FeZe1997
    @FeZe1997 Před rokem

    so that's how you get the puppet to have your color

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      yup, there are a couple decisions some countries have that do it as well.

  • @somedude8468
    @somedude8468 Před rokem

    but alscase lorraine is my core, it gives it to france, same with sudetes and checozlovakia, and danzig with poland.
    even sometimes, you want claimed states like posen to still be yours so collab are meta, but is fucked that they keep your cores too

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      yea, that's a slight problem...

    • @somedude8468
      @somedude8468 Před rokem

      @@Pydgin is it so hard to just... not give the collab the state if they have a core/claim from owner? aint to hard is it?

  • @emib6599
    @emib6599 Před rokem

    The most used tactic when playing a minor nation is get full collaboration government on the Soviet union, get some land enough ti create the puppet and let Germany do all the work

  • @somedudeonline1936
    @somedudeonline1936 Před rokem

    I like puppeting most countries I conquer if they don't have that important of provinces since I have a problem using all the shit I make so I give the ai the extra stuff.

  • @AmariFukui
    @AmariFukui Před rokem

    For france specifically its totally worth. They immediately annex vichy and all their lands before free france can

  • @kaltenstein7718
    @kaltenstein7718 Před rokem

    best is neither, install core with compliance mod and just make it part of your own country

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      But that's one of the options! :D

  • @something6905
    @something6905 Před rokem

    Collaboration government make game slower btw

  • @AjarTadpole7202
    @AjarTadpole7202 Před rokem +3

    2nd

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem +2

      You were first bud!

    • @AjarTadpole7202
      @AjarTadpole7202 Před rokem +1

      @@Pydgin In terms of comments yes, in terms of views I was second

    • @Pydgin
      @Pydgin  Před rokem

      ​@@AjarTadpole7202 No way! That's amazing because I watch the video over before hitting release. I still think you were first.

  • @lmao.3661
    @lmao.3661 Před rokem

    collaboration governments can actually make borders not look stupid while also highlighting your influence in the world by being a similar colour. "german reich" plastered over asia looks horrible but a few grey puppet states and it gives off a much cooler effect.