In Invasion, Zach being mature about the Jenna/Bruno rumour is probably the only time we saw him REALLY treat Jenna nicely on the show (for any season I can think of)
Well he straight up didn't believe it. He was like "the Vegan..." he didn't view Bruno as a threat at all. But any attractive and social adept guy talks to Jenna... Zach will go apeshit. It's sad
Oh please Johnny was embarrassed bc he became CTs backpack that he weaseled into Adam’s ear bc it was obvious CT and Adam were going to win. So Johnny cut a deal with him
I think that happened as well. I think I remember Adam saying he would rather lose than help CT win. Idk if I'm remembering correctly but I faintly remember something like that being said. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I’m pretty sure Adam also never needed money like some of the other cast members as if I’m not mistaken he is from Beverly Hills. So throwing the elimination doesn’t really hurt his pocket like it did CTs but I’m sure he got a nice cut from Johnny/Tyler
I always found Zach totally hypocritical for getting upset with Jenna considering how many times he cheated on her. Zach showed in a very public manner how he treated women, from his treatment of a female roommate in a Challenge Final to his girlfriend Jonna and later Jenna.
I mean it is kinda hilarious that Cara "joked" about it that and that is 100% what happened. The other part that Tori was partnered with Devin and then given the most puzzle heavy challenge ever. Feels like they've been trying to gift wrap a 1st place win for her years because producers loved her even as a rookie. I notice Cara "jOkEs" about things that are true like the block that wouldnt fall in Amanda and Zach's elimination.
@@cambricjimenez4882All one hundred percent and then add in the pathetic eating challenge of spaghetti noodles with Tori being Vegan and it's like, how does no one else see what happened. It was blatantly obvious.
@@ashleyklink6156 Yeah they gave Tori a ton of camera time her rookie season. And the only person she beat was Marie (the worst person to ever play) lol. BUt after that they brought her back as an enforcer and she was on champs vs Stars. Like excuse me she was the rookie they let skate and she only got 3rd despite doing most of the final w/Jordan. Yet they treated her like one of the best to ever play. Production has been trying to hand it to her for years....guess they finally made it idiot proof. Give Bananas puzzle and Jordan well Aneesa lmao.
I may be wrong but I thought CT spoke briefly about Adam throwing that elimination with bananas on his the Death,Taxes, and Johnny Bananas podcast. I could be wrong
I mean...all of the JEK/ Bananas era were done like that. Bananas took the money from Sarah, he had a dry spell that lasted years despite production always stacking the deck for him. Kenny Santucci said on a podcast that during this time Johnny called him crying that none of the new cast wanted to work together with him to do $$ splits. Well yeah, it's a new generation of kids who have seen you lie and screw everyone. But it goes to show how many of the wins he had to get that way that werent REALLY legit.
I am not surprised to hear about Bananas manipulations. He learned how to win the Challenge by any means possible including cheating and backstabbing teammates.
@@LoveableNiki Wish we could of seen more of Kefla! Fessy was so scared of him. At last they found someone Fessys size, it would have been great to see them in a physical elimination.
I didn’t even know about Adam throwing the elimination until CT’s homecoming episode. Would seem silly for Adam to do that considering they probably would’ve won that final. Between that and Mark, there’s definitely an asterisk with Johnny
Yeah it's insane I get old CT victimized these people but tbh I don't condone the idea of paying someone off to lose. CT was actually trying to show he was not old CT anymore I can now see really why CT never liked bananas
@@ChrissaToddeh Adam put his hands on ct first tbf. I get that him and Adam didn’t get along but it’s clear Adam held a grudge and didn’t know how to use his big boy words
@@Mannequin22 CT has also said ppl were trying that new technique where they bully people into throwing a punch. I don’t condone needless violence, and I’m glad CT learned to control himself. That said, remember watching someone (I think it was Devin and Bananas, maybe?) following another person around for hours, keeping them from sleeping, basically torturing and harassing them in an effort to force an attack? I can see CT falling for that once or twice. Stopped falling for it, though, didn’t he? 😂
Some other rumors I'm curious about is tori and jordan hooking up on dirty 30 cheating on Derek and not after like they claimed . The amanda duck tape incident Shane and Simone fight in redemption house If Britney hooked up with her ex in remediation house cheating on Brad. The rumor that Cara supposedly said she is not allowed back until tori gets a win ( which I kinda believe tori won and now Cara and Paulie came back ) Tori and fessy
Cara has leaned too much into the arrogance. She was a great competitor and ruined it all because she couldn’t be bothered taking a swimming lesson. Her fella is worse. Tori won because she had everyone in the final who wanted her to win, then bananas was teamed with Nany, who despite the support, is 💩. Cara shot herself in the foot then backtracked. Glad to see her back but she’s being silly and her fans are gullible. Tori and fessy isn’t a rumour, they admitted they went to Turks and Caicos and spent time together there at a reunion. It wasn’t hidden. It just didn’t turn into a relationship. The Amanda duct tape has been confirmed by production and contestants. You’re talking about stuff that just happened in the show. Not rumours.
I remember on Total madness after that episode Cory was on the after show and spoke to the rumor and said the DM's weren't him but he did know who it was. I always assumed it had to be Tony
@@JVMack what proves he’s a better man? Shit talking people on the reality tv show he isn’t on anymore? Not changing diapers? Jenna is an idiot, idk that she knows what a healthy relationship looks like. So sure, ignorance is bliss?
Why? Nany has been known to be fine with being the "other woman" and helping people cheat. Even in her current relationship with Kaycee, the relationship started with Kaycee cheating on her gf with Nany.
She digs her own grave every season. She’s not a good competitor, she’s a reality star there to bring drama. Without that, she wouldn’t have a place on any season. 🤷♀️
@@kirstybrown1185 Agree. For someone trying to win, she hasn’t gotten around to any noteworthy strength or conditioning training in twenty years. I’m not sure she’s trying that hard.
Bruno needs to be on all stars this man was a first boot but was talked about for the whole season and then seasons to come Bruno is a true legend and deserved to be back
Adam had to have thrown it. Either that or he was somehow running that elimination with brain damage that somehow miraculously healed after it was over... Either way, spineless.
@@chasingfelix3609 I was saying it was faked brain damage. Basically I was saying he either threw it or he threw it. But you are right, if he had brain damage and still ran the elimination it would in fact, not be spineless.
Had not heard about dunbars home movie. He was so average at dailies and elims for the era. Lost out on final on the island. And season he got carried to win he didn’t get the winning. What a hilarious legacy. Surprised you didn’t bring up rumor of what ashley allegedly said to josh that got her kicked. Also feel like there was something about rumors about mark and robin and someone else that we never got info on. And a big one you could bring up would be johnny being acused of abusing adderol during a final. Also landon and miz fighting over who was gonna go against kuramo because apparently he was gonna through it so they were basically trying to their stats.
I think it's sad she didn't give him a chance and wanted to follow her career instead, I understand where she's coming from but still sucked for CT, you clearly see that he was hurt by it. maybe she thought he wasn't ready, who knows.
Excuse me sir, Amanda was not the one who started talking about what went on with Jenna & Bruno, that was NANNERZ-go back and watch again and pay close attention.
Bananas came into the game asking questions cuz the rumor was floating around. Bananas came into the game same time Zach did. He wouldn't have known who Bruno was because he was one of the first people eliminated which was way before the champs came into the game. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Another great video HOWEVER I don't think it's fair to guess whether someone was pregnant or not... especially if we're unaware of a baby arriving months later. There's many painful or traumatic reasons why a couple might not want rumours of a pregnancy in these circumstances xxx
The challenge and these women have created the conversation though. The babies safety should be more important than their mums rights to do a physical reality show that could hurt the baby or worse. These woman know how they’re getting pregnant. Then taking incredibly harmful risks. Discussing pregnancies can be damaging but when these women are potentially causing damage to the babies themselves, why is a discussion hurting them? It should be seen as bad that people are putting fake before the health of an unborn baby. There’s no way anyone can have me believe that each and every one of them didn’t know before they participated. Let’s protect the babies. 👌🏻
I know people love her, so people will probably defend her behavior; but Amanda was so wrong for that tweet about Zach and Jenna. If they chose to work things out and not talk about it in public, she had no business bringing that up years later.
i have a potential conspiracy theory that Bananas gave Sarah 1/2 the money behind the scenes afterwards. He is always striving the be the big bad challenge villain, and loves to do things that keep his name and legacy going, so "take the money and run" basically did that as a top Challenge moment, but then gave her the money, because he got the fame. You said here he has split money in the past, and now if it's a breech on contract to do that, they have to keep it secret.
Two of Johnnys wins are big “what ifs”. What if Adam didn’t throw the rivals elimination? What if Mark didn’t throw the battle of exes elimination? And they both involve CT in some way. I can’t see mark/robin catching and passing CT/Diem in that final even though CT was dying. And the rivals final would possibly be up in the air between Kenny/Wes and CT/Adam
Hey Drew, you should look into the rumor of Bananas being on Adderall during the Rivals final where he took Sarah's share of the money. It sounds like he was using 'performance enhancing drugs' in order to stay awake longer than her. The rumor is he was charged for having drugs on him but the fine was like $3k, nothing compared to getting 1st place & not having to share any money with the partner that helped get you there.
I have checked into it and talked about it in a video about The Challenge Production Decisions. It's crazy he only got a fine when that was performance enhancing to help him win overall. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I think the Dunbar thing is shady. Sex workers deserve respect, Dunbar included. As long as consent is given, adults should be able to make their choices. Here's the real reason for MTV's actions: Exploitation is what MTV utilized for female castmates to pose for Playboy, along with just using their sexuality/appearance for ratings & encouraging "locker room" behavior by males in earlier seasons. Mark even says this during the Mandi/Vinny incident that "I don't think they allow that now". I am in NO WAY defending the assaults that have happened. In fact, I am blaming the network for their own hypocritical, chauvinistic behavior. In later seasons, they basically protect their "stars" after instigating fights that result in DQs, monetary loss (and Final opportunities) & other repercussions because the "faces" of the show might go home and/or cheat (Adderall).
he really did throw that elimination and it's not like CT was gonna fight him again after they let him back to the show. he was really trying to be better and change his image and be smarter and not fight on the show, Adam knew that.
Man i loved that ct adam team. Adam sorry if he threw that he was my fav character i wanted them to win because of him, but if he did thats the storiest thing in challenge history.
That CT and Adam edit showed why people believe it was a throw. I 100% believe Adam threw it. Adam 100% derailed the CT Train. It's disheartening knowing deals were made behind the scenes to fix comps. Makes your wins not really mean anything at all right? Remember that scene where Zach said women are objects to be controlled by men? I remember. Remember his homophobic stuff during his season of The Real World? I remember.
The only one I didn't know of, or ever even heard of was the Last one with Dunbar! So he did a P°rn shoot or something and they said, nope not paying yoy now!? Lmao!
Basically. The theory is it was a breach of contract. If it's in the fine print; he screwed up...if it's true. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Wow, some of these rumors are very interesting. First, I didn't know that Mark had made so many deals to win money during his time on the Challenge (it kind of ruins the integrity of the game, but it makes sense why people do it). Secondly, Adam for sure threw that daily with CT; people wanted CT out of the game, and it was a known fact that CT and Adam had issues. Third, Devin ravaged the house with that Bananas-Nelson rumor (and I'm pretty sure it happen because Kayleigh wanted her revenge for Nelson flirting with other girls in the house). Fourth, Nany and Bananas definitely hooked up. Moreover, the fact that they didn't show any footage in the redemption house is very interesting (makes me wonder why is production trying to shield/protect Bananas' image), plus Bananas partnered up with Nany for Ride or Dies. Fifth, the Jenna rumor that Amanda started caused a lot of problems in Zach & Jenna's relationship. Moreover, it ended up that she did kiss Bruno, but he didn't use his fingers lol. Lastly, if Tony hooked up with Jenna in Dirty 30; given that Zach saved Tony from elimination, that would be nasty work and the ultimate form of betrayal.
Mark made many deals. But Mark got two championships early on and back then the games were the hardest when it's two team format. So with two titles - making it to the end he wanted a bigger paycheck if he couldn't win it. As a person, I understand securing the bag. But as an fan, I hate fixing eliminations and finals. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
How about the rumor that Banansas was taking adderall all throughout the finals of vendettas when he took the money from Sarah..? Personally, that made for great tv and I’m glad he did it.
Not only that, but she’s horrible. She tries to pretend she’s nice, but her entire history is bullying people. Which just makes it funny. I love watching old seasons, watching her be the worst, and knowing what she gets. 😂
I don't like Bananas but I loved watching Sarah finally getting her karma. She can change her hair color all she likes, but she's still the same person from Cutthroat that made Cara Maria a living hell, calling her weak and a lay up and ended up being DQ'ed at the final because she couldn't do it. She's a pretty shitty person pretending to be the nice, innocent girl next door. Bye Felicia lol
I hope Jenna and Tony hooked up bc Zach deserves karma in that relationship he is the epitome of a mysoginest and still acts like a high school jock bullying everyone around him and jenna gets his wrath the worst. I really obviously don't know if this is true but I would not be surprised whatsoever to know that he beats her. He's always given me that kind of vibe, ladies you know ehat I'm talking about..
Are we really that shocked about Johnny and Nany? She was the original certified h03 of the challenge. OG was Veronica, she passed the torch to Nany who then passed it to Nurys 😂
@@AngelcakeVids CT was killing it that season! And after the cho cho he “couldn’t get up” he was dropping the ball all the time it was suspicious to me
To this day I will always believe Adam threw that elimination..he's a follower, Bananas is the biggest manipulator in the challenge he got in his head easily
How about Johnny cheating on the Exes Final, according to CT on the Bananas podcast? That's bothered me since i heard because he potentially stole Diem's first win.
Its hard to watch that final for me. Diem absolutely deserved to win at some point, especially that season, which was her best. She showed all her endurance and heart by passing Camila and Bananas easily!! Diem was a classic case of "built for a final, struggles with physical eliminations." But regardless, CT was too bulky to handle the cold and the elevation. He couldn't finish in time regardless of how Diem did. And Bananas and Camila as a duo were just more equipped for the elements that final. That being said, Diem single handedly should have won, and the fact she couldn't be awarded it, haunts me
@@robertsmith4145 true CT was too big but according to him, Johnny and Camila climbed up the side of the mountain where there was less snow despite the rules stating not to do that. I didn't have a problem with Johnny and Camila winning until i heard that. If CT and Diem had done the same they might have won.
@@elysebonds3526 it would have been super close!! I just think CT was more deterred by the elements than Bananas and Camila. But Diem WON this final, CT guided her through the season in physical stuff. This final was hers and suited all her strengths. Wish it was a solo season and Diem could have been the first solo winner!!!
CT smoked than and also was still smoking in Double Agents, he gassed out at the elevation and from having smoky lungs. Shocked how many of the cast smokes, Devin, Aneesa, Ashley Mitchell.
@@robertsmith4145 Welp is was Diem's idiot decision to let Bananas skate to a final. She did enough seasons to know production loved him and would let him and Camila skirt rules. Also they let CT break through the snow, and just walked in his foot steps-Johnny admitted it made his hike wayyy easier. Plus Diem didnt do crap before that portion so she was fresher for the hike. Camila and Johnny worked together before .Diem deserved 2nd and wouldn't even get that with any other partner.
Also if this adam being paid is true which seems to be the truth, what a horribly cowardly thing to do, CT showed true change on the season, but also adam can still not trust it sure, but to let someone pay him off? Not okay I hope they stopped letting players bribe other players to lose
I don’t think Adam threw the elimination. Him and CT had a pretty tight bond on that season after some healing and I think Adam was genuinely just gassed and started making mistakes. Even Johnny was dead after that elimination so I think Adam just couldn’t get it done but that was a tough lose for CT especially after all the growth he had on that season. I’d love to see a Rivals 4/All stars type of season were they could have some sort of redemption as partners.
Johnny was dead because he is bigger and heavier than Adam and had physical contacts between him and CT that threw him off balance, Adam is slimmer and had CT protecting his ass. so him not getting things done was deliberate, that elimination would not tire Adam out, no way.
I don't think Adam threw that elimination with CT - if anything, he would have loved to make CT super proud by winning that elimination & having them go to the final together! Even the way CT handled that loss, I don't think HE thought Adam had thrown it. It was only after the fact when lots of voices got in his ear that he felt like Adam might have done it on purpose.
he definitely threw it, you don't know how petty Adam can get, he really was waiting for the moment to stick it CT, and the gang were on his ears from the beginning, he can't fight CT so what a better way to pay him back than to deny him a championship that he wanted for so long.
In Invasion, Zach being mature about the Jenna/Bruno rumour is probably the only time we saw him REALLY treat Jenna nicely on the show (for any season I can think of)
Well he straight up didn't believe it. He was like "the Vegan..." he didn't view Bruno as a threat at all. But any attractive and social adept guy talks to Jenna... Zach will go apeshit. It's sad
Adam absolutely threw that elimination. Probably was offered a cut by Tyler/Johnny
Absolutely threw it. I don't think he got anything out of it except screwing CT and sucking up to Johnny and Tyler.
Oh please Johnny was embarrassed bc he became CTs backpack that he weaseled into Adam’s ear bc it was obvious CT and Adam were going to win. So Johnny cut a deal with him
I think that happened as well. I think I remember Adam saying he would rather lose than help CT win. Idk if I'm remembering correctly but I faintly remember something like that being said. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I remember seeing somewhere that Adam did lose on purpose. I believe it.
I’m pretty sure Adam also never needed money like some of the other cast members as if I’m not mistaken he is from Beverly Hills. So throwing the elimination doesn’t really hurt his pocket like it did CTs but I’m sure he got a nice cut from Johnny/Tyler
@@LeoPacheco-nw6rm he couldn’t have won the whole thing 🤷♀️
I always found Zach totally hypocritical for getting upset with Jenna considering how many times he cheated on her. Zach showed in a very public manner how he treated women, from his treatment of a female roommate in a Challenge Final to his girlfriend Jonna and later Jenna.
Yup
Zach is the kinda guy who would throw his phone so his girl would not look threw it and find the truth.
Hahahahahahaha
and then blame her into believing it was her fault he threw it cause why doesn’t she trust him
Before gaslighting was a common word, this d bag defined the term
Done it.
Or the girl herself. 🤷♀️
Man CT and Adam were clearly about to send Tyler and Johnny home and all of a sudden Adam’s legs stopped working 🤣🤣
I still believe Adam threw that elimination… he’s never going to admit it because he might see CT again someday
"Anessa speed" slows down everyone.
The rumor that Cara Maria was blacklisted until Tori won is my fave. The Reddit threads about this always have me going crazy
This one is a million percent TRUE!
I mean it is kinda hilarious that Cara "joked" about it that and that is 100% what happened. The other part that Tori was partnered with Devin and then given the most puzzle heavy challenge ever. Feels like they've been trying to gift wrap a 1st place win for her years because producers loved her even as a rookie. I notice Cara "jOkEs" about things that are true like the block that wouldnt fall in Amanda and Zach's elimination.
@@cambricjimenez4882All one hundred percent and then add in the pathetic eating challenge of spaghetti noodles with Tori being Vegan and it's like, how does no one else see what happened. It was blatantly obvious.
Wait till you see them two in the current season filming. They are put against each other in an elimination. Wonder what yall think about that.
@@ashleyklink6156 Yeah they gave Tori a ton of camera time her rookie season. And the only person she beat was Marie (the worst person to ever play) lol. BUt after that they brought her back as an enforcer and she was on champs vs Stars. Like excuse me she was the rookie they let skate and she only got 3rd despite doing most of the final w/Jordan. Yet they treated her like one of the best to ever play. Production has been trying to hand it to her for years....guess they finally made it idiot proof. Give Bananas puzzle and Jordan well Aneesa lmao.
Adam definitely threw the Daily and is too coward to admit it all these years later.
I thought Johnny admitted to paying him to throw it, no?
Adam was a weasel.
Adam is such a loser for throwing the challenge
That whole season, he showed how much of a loser he was.
Adam smiled when asked if he threw it. Duper’s delight. He knows he threw it and he also knows that he would get so much hate.
I'd love to hear your take on the Johnny Bananas Adderall rumor.
I may be wrong but I thought CT spoke briefly about Adam throwing that elimination with bananas on his the Death,Taxes, and Johnny Bananas podcast. I could be wrong
He did! I remember Johnny just laughing it off.
@@melodiadeamor yep Johnny said he won more and CT said who won more money? Lol. I thought he did mention it. I knew I wasn’t crazy thinking that.
So much money kick back suspicions I have.
Its one thing to gift friends, another to manipulate games with the promise. That deminishes the fun.
I mean...all of the JEK/ Bananas era were done like that. Bananas took the money from Sarah, he had a dry spell that lasted years despite production always stacking the deck for him. Kenny Santucci said on a podcast that during this time Johnny called him crying that none of the new cast wanted to work together with him to do $$ splits. Well yeah, it's a new generation of kids who have seen you lie and screw everyone. But it goes to show how many of the wins he had to get that way that werent REALLY legit.
I am not surprised to hear about Bananas manipulations. He learned how to win the Challenge by any means possible including cheating and backstabbing teammates.
Adele and lindsey lohan behind you in the beginning for their “rumor” related songs. ugh i love you
My Boo Kefla made the Patreon ad. Let's go!!!!!!!!
@@LoveableNiki
Wish we could of seen more of Kefla! Fessy was so scared of him. At last they found someone Fessys size, it would have been great to see them in a physical elimination.
Oh this was a fun watch do a part 2
I didn’t even know about Adam throwing the elimination until CT’s homecoming episode. Would seem silly for Adam to do that considering they probably would’ve won that final. Between that and Mark, there’s definitely an asterisk with Johnny
Yeah it's insane I get old CT victimized these people but tbh I don't condone the idea of paying someone off to lose.
CT was actually trying to show he was not old CT anymore
I can now see really why CT never liked bananas
@@ChrissaToddeh Adam put his hands on ct first tbf. I get that him and Adam didn’t get along but it’s clear Adam held a grudge and didn’t know how to use his big boy words
@@Mannequin22 CT has also said ppl were trying that new technique where they bully people into throwing a punch. I don’t condone needless violence, and I’m glad CT learned to control himself. That said, remember watching someone (I think it was Devin and Bananas, maybe?) following another person around for hours, keeping them from sleeping, basically torturing and harassing them in an effort to force an attack? I can see CT falling for that once or twice. Stopped falling for it, though, didn’t he? 😂
LOVE CT Hope he's on season 40 when is it coming out???
Rumor is (LOL) August 14th is a possible premiere date. We'll see if that's the case. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Do more of these
Love the Patreon ad, we have so much fun over there!
I watching that Dunbar “movie”.
Twas a great time. Lots of action. Great writing. The build up to the climax was very fulfilling.
Hmmm I'm intrigued, where do I find such movie? 😉😂
Some other rumors I'm curious about is tori and jordan hooking up on dirty 30 cheating on Derek and not after like they claimed .
The amanda duck tape incident
Shane and Simone fight in redemption house
If Britney hooked up with her ex in remediation house cheating on Brad.
The rumor that Cara supposedly said she is not allowed back until tori gets a win ( which I kinda believe tori won and now Cara and Paulie came back )
Tori and fessy
Nah Cara wasn’t going to come back without paulie. He supposedly wasn’t allowed back due to the cast ect.
Tori did Fessy, that's true. Woman has horrible taste in men.
Cara has leaned too much into the arrogance. She was a great competitor and ruined it all because she couldn’t be bothered taking a swimming lesson. Her fella is worse. Tori won because she had everyone in the final who wanted her to win, then bananas was teamed with Nany, who despite the support, is 💩. Cara shot herself in the foot then backtracked. Glad to see her back but she’s being silly and her fans are gullible. Tori and fessy isn’t a rumour, they admitted they went to Turks and Caicos and spent time together there at a reunion. It wasn’t hidden. It just didn’t turn into a relationship. The Amanda duct tape has been confirmed by production and contestants. You’re talking about stuff that just happened in the show. Not rumours.
Tori and Fessy? The hook up? I guess they were pretty clear that it happened. But then again, it's Tori and Fessy. What else is new?
THE BAKERY SAW THIS FIRST!!!!! Bakery, stand up!!!!
These were so interesting! I only knew about the contestants cutting deals with each other.
I remember on Total madness after that episode Cory was on the after show and spoke to the rumor and said the DM's weren't him but he did know who it was. I always assumed it had to be Tony
That's the theory everyone goes with. I believe it's possible. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
With all those Rumors about Zach,Jenna and Tony. Glad Zach and Jenna have a family together and Tony and Zach still friends today
Nah. He’s terrible. Idc if he convinced her to have his kids.
@@Mannequin22 he’s a better man today and there happy so bye
Jenna deserves much better than Zach but unfortunately she’s too insecure and dependent on him for some reason. Poor girl
@@JVMack what proves he’s a better man? Shit talking people on the reality tv show he isn’t on anymore? Not changing diapers? Jenna is an idiot, idk that she knows what a healthy relationship looks like. So sure, ignorance is bliss?
@@0000bnk can’t help people who won’t help themselves. Two shallow individuals.
Tbh idc if people hate jonny bananas but to punish nany too for this rumour is wild.
Why? Nany has been known to be fine with being the "other woman" and helping people cheat. Even in her current relationship with Kaycee, the relationship started with Kaycee cheating on her gf with Nany.
She knew he had a gf lol
She digs her own grave every season. She’s not a good competitor, she’s a reality star there to bring drama. Without that, she wouldn’t have a place on any season. 🤷♀️
@@kirstybrown1185 Agree. For someone trying to win, she hasn’t gotten around to any noteworthy strength or conditioning training in twenty years. I’m not sure she’s trying that hard.
Coattails Nany...
Worst player ever...
Great job on the video, Drew!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope you're doing well. Keep crushing it on your podcast.
Love your videos and this is another banger! Love it! So cool to hear some old stories confirmed true. And to hear about some new rumors too. Amazing!
Bruno needs to be on all stars this man was a first boot but was talked about for the whole season and then seasons to come Bruno is a true legend and deserved to be back
Id really like to work on this show with you. I have a lot of interesting takes that I don't hear people make.
Adam had to have thrown it. Either that or he was somehow running that elimination with brain damage that somehow miraculously healed after it was over... Either way, spineless.
How would it be spineless if he had brain damage though?
@@chasingfelix3609 I was saying it was faked brain damage. Basically I was saying he either threw it or he threw it. But you are right, if he had brain damage and still ran the elimination it would in fact, not be spineless.
Had not heard about dunbars home movie. He was so average at dailies and elims for the era. Lost out on final on the island. And season he got carried to win he didn’t get the winning. What a hilarious legacy.
Surprised you didn’t bring up rumor of what ashley allegedly said to josh that got her kicked. Also feel like there was something about rumors about mark and robin and someone else that we never got info on. And a big one you could bring up would be johnny being acused of abusing adderol during a final. Also landon and miz fighting over who was gonna go against kuramo because apparently he was gonna through it so they were basically trying to their stats.
Rumor question?- Had CT and Diem been together for a while before Exes 2. She talked about CT being her partner and being ready to get married.
I think it's sad she didn't give him a chance and wanted to follow her career instead, I understand where she's coming from but still sucked for CT, you clearly see that he was hurt by it.
maybe she thought he wasn't ready, who knows.
I still feel the Dunbar rumors is definitely true and kinda unfair
I don't remember the Dunbar one! Whoa!
OK BUT THE LILO RUMORA VIDEO EDIT IS TOP TIERRRRRRRR
That music video was such a blast from the past. I almost forgot it existed until this video lol
Excuse me sir, Amanda was not the one who started talking about what went on with Jenna & Bruno, that was NANNERZ-go back and watch again and pay close attention.
Bananas came into the game asking questions cuz the rumor was floating around. Bananas came into the game same time Zach did. He wouldn't have known who Bruno was because he was one of the first people eliminated which was way before the champs came into the game. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Sticky fingers for the Jenna Bruno rumors chapter 😂😂😂
Another great video HOWEVER I don't think it's fair to guess whether someone was pregnant or not... especially if we're unaware of a baby arriving months later. There's many painful or traumatic reasons why a couple might not want rumours of a pregnancy in these circumstances xxx
The challenge and these women have created the conversation though. The babies safety should be more important than their mums rights to do a physical reality show that could hurt the baby or worse. These woman know how they’re getting pregnant. Then taking incredibly harmful risks. Discussing pregnancies can be damaging but when these women are potentially causing damage to the babies themselves, why is a discussion hurting them? It should be seen as bad that people are putting fake before the health of an unborn baby. There’s no way anyone can have me believe that each and every one of them didn’t know before they participated. Let’s protect the babies. 👌🏻
I know people love her, so people will probably defend her behavior; but Amanda was so wrong for that tweet about Zach and Jenna. If they chose to work things out and not talk about it in public, she had no business bringing that up years later.
Amanda: “Rivals, here I come!”
i have a potential conspiracy theory that Bananas gave Sarah 1/2 the money behind the scenes afterwards. He is always striving the be the big bad challenge villain, and loves to do things that keep his name and legacy going, so "take the money and run" basically did that as a top Challenge moment, but then gave her the money, because he got the fame. You said here he has split money in the past, and now if it's a breech on contract to do that, they have to keep it secret.
I love the Easter egg for Lindsey Lohan's music career.
Two of Johnnys wins are big “what ifs”. What if Adam didn’t throw the rivals elimination? What if Mark didn’t throw the battle of exes elimination? And they both involve CT in some way.
I can’t see mark/robin catching and passing CT/Diem in that final even though CT was dying. And the rivals final would possibly be up in the air between Kenny/Wes and CT/Adam
Rumor that is true is that CT and Diem were back together on Exes 2
Adam threw The Challenge and 2 really big ones for me are Kenny and Evan and also the Bananas Adderall one because if that's true that win is bullshit
Kenny and Evan did Tonya dirty, really dirty and even now Kenny acts like it was no big deal and blames Tonya for ruining his Challenge Career.
Hey Drew, you should look into the rumor of Bananas being on Adderall during the Rivals final where he took Sarah's share of the money. It sounds like he was using 'performance enhancing drugs' in order to stay awake longer than her. The rumor is he was charged for having drugs on him but the fine was like $3k, nothing compared to getting 1st place & not having to share any money with the partner that helped get you there.
I have checked into it and talked about it in a video about The Challenge Production Decisions. It's crazy he only got a fine when that was performance enhancing to help him win overall. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Dunbar didn’t deserve to win anyways, so is it cold that I don’t actually care?
I think the Dunbar thing is shady. Sex workers deserve respect, Dunbar included. As long as consent is given, adults should be able to make their choices.
Here's the real reason for MTV's actions: Exploitation is what MTV utilized for female castmates to pose for Playboy, along with just using their sexuality/appearance for ratings & encouraging "locker room" behavior by males in earlier seasons. Mark even says this during the Mandi/Vinny incident that "I don't think they allow that now".
I am in NO WAY defending the assaults that have happened. In fact, I am blaming the network for their own hypocritical, chauvinistic behavior. In later seasons, they basically protect their "stars" after instigating fights that result in DQs, monetary loss (and Final opportunities) & other repercussions because the "faces" of the show might go home and/or cheat (Adderall).
Adam's case looks sketchy but CT almost destroyed him in Dual 2 so I don't think he would risk that again.
he really did throw that elimination and it's not like CT was gonna fight him again after they let him back to the show.
he was really trying to be better and change his image and be smarter and not fight on the show, Adam knew that.
Man i loved that ct adam team. Adam sorry if he threw that he was my fav character i wanted them to win because of him, but if he did thats the storiest thing in challenge history.
Not THAT'S ME!!!!! Hahahaha
I cackled so hard lmfao
That CT and Adam edit showed why people believe it was a throw. I 100% believe Adam threw it. Adam 100% derailed the CT Train.
It's disheartening knowing deals were made behind the scenes to fix comps. Makes your wins not really mean anything at all right?
Remember that scene where Zach said women are objects to be controlled by men? I remember.
Remember his homophobic stuff during his season of The Real World? I remember.
The only one I didn't know of, or ever even heard of was the Last one with Dunbar! So he did a P°rn shoot or something and they said, nope not paying yoy now!? Lmao!
Basically. The theory is it was a breach of contract. If it's in the fine print; he screwed up...if it's true. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Wow, some of these rumors are very interesting. First, I didn't know that Mark had made so many deals to win money during his time on the Challenge (it kind of ruins the integrity of the game, but it makes sense why people do it). Secondly, Adam for sure threw that daily with CT; people wanted CT out of the game, and it was a known fact that CT and Adam had issues. Third, Devin ravaged the house with that Bananas-Nelson rumor (and I'm pretty sure it happen because Kayleigh wanted her revenge for Nelson flirting with other girls in the house).
Fourth, Nany and Bananas definitely hooked up. Moreover, the fact that they didn't show any footage in the redemption house is very interesting (makes me wonder why is production trying to shield/protect Bananas' image), plus Bananas partnered up with Nany for Ride or Dies. Fifth, the Jenna rumor that Amanda started caused a lot of problems in Zach & Jenna's relationship. Moreover, it ended up that she did kiss Bruno, but he didn't use his fingers lol. Lastly, if Tony hooked up with Jenna in Dirty 30; given that Zach saved Tony from elimination, that would be nasty work and the ultimate form of betrayal.
Mark made many deals. But Mark got two championships early on and back then the games were the hardest when it's two team format. So with two titles - making it to the end he wanted a bigger paycheck if he couldn't win it. As a person, I understand securing the bag. But as an fan, I hate fixing eliminations and finals. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
How about the rumor that Banansas was taking adderall all throughout the finals of vendettas when he took the money from Sarah..? Personally, that made for great tv and I’m glad he did it.
Not only that, but she’s horrible. She tries to pretend she’s nice, but her entire history is bullying people. Which just makes it funny. I love watching old seasons, watching her be the worst, and knowing what she gets. 😂
I don't like Bananas but I loved watching Sarah finally getting her karma. She can change her hair color all she likes, but she's still the same person from Cutthroat that made Cara Maria a living hell, calling her weak and a lay up and ended up being DQ'ed at the final because she couldn't do it. She's a pretty shitty person pretending to be the nice, innocent girl next door. Bye Felicia lol
Have you heard anything about Logan’s chances of returning for future seasons?
I really want to know if the Kenny Evan Tonya thing true I seen videos of it all being made up then I see it’s true so I want to know what you think
Am i bugging or did you accidentally upload this is in slow motion? it seems more normal at 1.25 but best at 1.5...maybe just me? lol
I just want to know what actually happened to Nam and why he never stayed a whole season..
great video
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I hope Jenna and Tony hooked up bc Zach deserves karma in that relationship he is the epitome of a mysoginest and still acts like a high school jock bullying everyone around him and jenna gets his wrath the worst. I really obviously don't know if this is true but I would not be surprised whatsoever to know that he beats her. He's always given me that kind of vibe, ladies you know ehat I'm talking about..
I don’t trust Zach for shit, and I find it baffling that Jenna’s such a spineless pick me for his attention. Poor thing.
Amanda is a Legend. Hahahaha
Queen behavior lol Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
The Adam/CT rumor is so blown out of proportion. It was a simple case of Adam fumbling under pressure.
I don't think so, he really was in cahoots with Johnny and his gang. they were planning to get rid of CT from the beginning, Adam was their last card.
@@soheiladam7510 So then why did Tyler make the very same error? Was he in cahoots with CT?
Are we really that shocked about Johnny and Nany? She was the original certified h03 of the challenge. OG was Veronica, she passed the torch to Nany who then passed it to Nurys 😂
Before Nurys, there's Tori lolol
5:57 I always said the same thing
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@@AngelcakeVids CT was killing it that season! And after the cho cho he “couldn’t get up” he was dropping the ball all the time it was suspicious to me
Where is my Chalkboard Art, Cake???
I'll make sure to have Chalkboard art from here on out. I got you lol Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
@@AngelcakeVidsYou know I'm high maintenance. Hahaha 💛💛💛
To this day I will always believe Adam threw that elimination..he's a follower, Bananas is the biggest manipulator in the challenge he got in his head easily
I can't even remember the one girl who found out she was pregnant on double agents 😅
I believe it was Natalie from survivor
@@nerissacalderon1510 no the other one, I think she's British?
Hmmm the only other one I can think of was Melissa, she was pregnant and did the final
@@nerissacalderon1510 I think the name is Liv or something? Gonna check Wikipedia for the cast list
It was Melissa blonde hair she was in the final
Did Adam really get of that $ though? I doubt it 🤣
Nany would hook up with Big Easy if it got her a win.
Mark giving the win to Johnny irks me. Mark didn’t need to do that. I’ve always felt mark was top tier on skill and politics. He was better than that
How about Johnny cheating on the Exes Final, according to CT on the Bananas podcast? That's bothered me since i heard because he potentially stole Diem's first win.
Its hard to watch that final for me. Diem absolutely deserved to win at some point, especially that season, which was her best. She showed all her endurance and heart by passing Camila and Bananas easily!! Diem was a classic case of "built for a final, struggles with physical eliminations." But regardless, CT was too bulky to handle the cold and the elevation. He couldn't finish in time regardless of how Diem did. And Bananas and Camila as a duo were just more equipped for the elements that final. That being said, Diem single handedly should have won, and the fact she couldn't be awarded it, haunts me
@@robertsmith4145 true CT was too big but according to him, Johnny and Camila climbed up the side of the mountain where there was less snow despite the rules stating not to do that. I didn't have a problem with Johnny and Camila winning until i heard that. If CT and Diem had done the same they might have won.
@@elysebonds3526 it would have been super close!! I just think CT was more deterred by the elements than Bananas and Camila. But Diem WON this final, CT guided her through the season in physical stuff. This final was hers and suited all her strengths. Wish it was a solo season and Diem could have been the first solo winner!!!
CT smoked than and also was still smoking in Double Agents, he gassed out at the elevation and from having smoky lungs. Shocked how many of the cast smokes, Devin, Aneesa, Ashley Mitchell.
@@robertsmith4145 Welp is was Diem's idiot decision to let Bananas skate to a final. She did enough seasons to know production loved him and would let him and Camila skirt rules. Also they let CT break through the snow, and just walked in his foot steps-Johnny admitted it made his hike wayyy easier. Plus Diem didnt do crap before that portion so she was fresher for the hike. Camila and Johnny worked together before .Diem deserved 2nd and wouldn't even get that with any other partner.
Why did Ashley Mitchell go home on season 37 ( I think) million dollar Mitchell I never liked her anyways
Also if this adam being paid is true which seems to be the truth,
what a horribly cowardly thing to do,
CT showed true change on the season,
but also adam can still not trust it sure,
but to let someone pay him off? Not okay
I hope they stopped letting players bribe other players to lose
I don’t think Adam threw the elimination. Him and CT had a pretty tight bond on that season after some healing and I think Adam was genuinely just gassed and started making mistakes. Even Johnny was dead after that elimination so I think Adam just couldn’t get it done but that was a tough lose for CT especially after all the growth he had on that season. I’d love to see a Rivals 4/All stars type of season were they could have some sort of redemption as partners.
Lol Adam threw it. On Bananas podcast when CT brought it up Johnny laughed. It definitely happened. They gave him a cut of their winnings.
Johnny was dead because he is bigger and heavier than Adam and had physical contacts between him and CT that threw him off balance, Adam is slimmer and had CT protecting his ass. so him not getting things done was deliberate, that elimination would not tire Adam out, no way.
I saw Dunbar’s show. It. Wasn’t very impressive 😂
I don't think Adam threw that elimination with CT - if anything, he would have loved to make CT super proud by winning that elimination & having them go to the final together! Even the way CT handled that loss, I don't think HE thought Adam had thrown it. It was only after the fact when lots of voices got in his ear that he felt like Adam might have done it on purpose.
he definitely threw it, you don't know how petty Adam can get, he really was waiting for the moment to stick it CT, and the gang were on his ears from the beginning, he can't fight CT so what a better way to pay him back than to deny him a championship that he wanted for so long.