Building a Minimal Wardrobe | The Art of Manliness
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Brett takes you into his closet to show you how to build a versatile yet minimal wardrobe. For more info on building a minimal wardrobe read this article by Antonio Centeno: www.artofmanliness.com/2013/11... - Jak na to + styl
My favorite parts of this video are all the poses you do with each outfit.
Like selecting costumes for a character in a video game and they do little animations.
Hahah true
I was about to comment exact same thing LOL
THE SIMS
When you try to dress up CJ in GTA San Andreas
He looks like a Roblox character though. 😅
I take you into my closet to show you how I use just a few items to build a versatile wardrobe.
*****
Linen. All the linen.
***** i think he did talked about it in the AOM blog, but guayaberas, google them, they are widely used in the tropical areas of mexico and have a very casual / formal feel to them, they have a bit of "old man clothes" label, but still they will keep you fresh while looking sharp (also you can always pretend that you have found you have cuban heritage and want to connect with it :p)
Where are you at on sentimental items such as old football jerseys? Have plenty of these type of things and typically keep them stashed away in storage but have some out that I simply look at and reminisce on
Nick S There will be a few things you will always keep even when they don't fit anymore. Stuff like the suit you got married in or a t-shirt that has your high school name on it. Half a dozen peices is ok just don't go overboard.
well done brother but it is way to bussy for me even with just the things that you have. I'm all for steve jobs or mark zucker kind of closet. allI have is black Tshirts one denim from walmart. one pair of shoes black only (have to get that) and one white shirt. I could care less what society thinks of me. black slacks and running shoes, thats it for me, ohh a a leather jacket black of course.
What I do to see if I'm wearing all my clothes: at the beginning of the year, I reverse all my hangars. As I wear an item, I'll put it back the correct way. At various times during the year, I'll check the hangars. If I've gone through a season without wearing an item, I'll donate it. Keeps things neat and tidy.
That’s a brilliant idea.
@@jebthegodemperor7301 Not my idea, but it's worked well... until 2020--I pretty much have only worn t-shirts and shorts for two years! I guess were back on.
For anyone complaining about the fit of his trousers.. The dude is not in his 20s. (I think.) "Manliness" is not about following trends or the latest thing on pinterest. Dude is obviously advocating for the classic look - his moustache is not an ironic ode to the hipster movement that requires skinny or tapered jeans. It's a symbol of a bygone era of classic american masculinity.
Ethan Woo exactly this. I've seen a lot of comments about the fit of his pants. I HATE tight jeans and prefer the more loose fit, mainly because I'm moving around a lot during the day, lifting and squatting and such. This is my opinion, but skinny jeans look ridiculous on anyone. However, I acknowledge that some people like the look and that's fine.
It certainly comes with an acquired taste, but I noticed that the people pointing out the ill fitted trousers aren't exactly saying he needs trendy "skinny" jeans. There are more sleek options than skinny, but the fit that I've seen work with many is the "slim", which is roomier on the top and a bit tapered on the bottom. You don't have to get an all-tight pant to do that.
I don't think its about the trend as much as it is how odd his legs look because of all the extra fabric folding. It doesn't really seem clean or serious (which, I know sounds extremely superficial, but then again we're on a video about clothes so yeah...)
James I was reading the comments about his pants being fitted horribly, but then I saw them they aren't too bad. But when people say they need to be fitted they don't mean skin tight and uncomfortable. Just a nice tapering in the lower leg
Ethan Woo a good fitting has nothing to do with age
That's so much worse than just being a hipster. That bygone classic american masculinity you speak of is the cause of much of the gender dysphoria we're seeing today. Let it die already
If one wears parts of a suit separately, it is important to have them cleaned together otherwise, over time, the trousers and jacket will no longer match.
Man, I loved this video. You kept everything so simple, basic and minimal. A great advice at the end also. (About donating clothes). Thanks for those tips. Very few times I feel like some youtuber talks straight from his heart. I felt it in this video. TY (Y) Keep manliness going.
Nikhil Vetam Thanks!
Epic moustache! Every time I see a moustache I automatically attribute it to manliness, power, prestige, and my dad,
grandad, and uncle - they all had damn amazing moustaches!
I love your videos and in a world where people (especially men) are now often attacked for having old school morals and values; your videos give me faith in humanity and future masculinity!
Keep up the great work!
Finally someone who actually shows the clothes being worn, unlike every other video about minimal wardrobe out there. THANKS!
Your posing antics were great. Love the vid.
Can't take this stuff to seriously. They're just clothes, but whether you like it or not people make judgements based on how you look, so you need to spend a bit (emphasis on bit) of time thinking about this stuff so you can put your best foot forward.
Bringing true manliness back to the U.S I salute you good sir.
Definitely agree on starting with the pants. You never need as many pants as shirts or even shoes.
I really appreciate this video and your channel as a whole. Yesterday you taught me how to polish my husbands shoes and now I can surprise him with shiny new shoes when he comes home from his business trip!!
Filling the role of 773.225 missing fathers. Manly indeed.
Breadlord lmao why decimal? Are they missing leg or something
I believe the decimal functions the same way a comma would in some countries. It's nice to step out of the ethnocentric box sometimes.
Laura.ren101 almost every European country uses the dot in numbers the way Americans use the comma. For example in my country, the Netherlands one thousand would 1.000 instead of 1,000 and 90 cents would be €0,90 instead of $0.90
Dik van Achteren curiously European mathematicians, engineers, or scientists don't do that. They'll use a space to separate. Which weirded me out a little the first time I worked with a European engineer, but it does provide a significantly cleaner look, imho.
MoustacheTex do you mean like 1 000 000 instead of 1.000.000? In that case, it does look cleaner and I think both are correct, depending on the persoon.
The mustache rocks, ignore the haters. Thanks for the tips!
You have such an awesome genuineness that is so visible through most of your videos when you talk! You are an awesome guy and have an amazing heart for others! Thanks for giving this generation advice on to stay classy and manly! God bless!
That Cladwell site is amazing. Actually seeing what you need and what you'll wear prevents the problem of having a closet full of clothes but nothing to wear / nothing you feel comfortable in. I also like that they give you choices instead of other services that just send you random clothes from their personal brand.
I've wanted a pair of nice boots for awhile so I'll look around next week (black friday) to see if I find anything good. Wearing sneakers all the time is getting old.
liked the showing us what it looks like instead of just talking about it like others do on youtube. I'm using youtube to fix my room and clothing look. currently I toss everything in a giant pile then dig through it to and Wear whatever I find. I never get rid of anything until I get too fat to fit in it or it just falls apart. even then I'll sew it back together until it looks unsightly. had dress pants once with a hole near the front pocket I just sewed it shut and wore it with a sew line down the side :D
Yes! What a video, Bravo Brett. As a 22 year old man whose been subscribing to Art of Manliness for about a year now I absolutely benefited from this video. This is some knowledge that I've been trying to understand for awhile now. Working at a new station I've been trying to find that balance between professional and not outdoing the on air talent for awhile now. I've always wondered about getting my lower-end shirts and pants tailored and I've never got a straight answer. Thanks a lot Brett, looking forward to the next vid.
- Jason
Glad it could help. Yeah, definitely take those clothes to a tailor and have them altered. It will make all the difference.
Welcome to your thirties
great video! thanks I'm rebuilding my wardrobe and I though I had to buy the most flashiest things all at one time but you taught me to build it over time with simplicity
This is the best guide yet, most minimalist guides don't provide practical examples and only give abstract ideas like "mix and match"
If I wear a sweater over a button down I sweat like a blind lesbian in a fish market.
Yes. Shoot, I sweat in just a long sleeved shirt.
Is the Sweater Light-Weight?
Are wearing it in the summer?
That is the best analogy I've heard in a long time
I just laughed so hard. Took me half a second to get it though.
That was a damn good line.
Great vid. I've lost about 30lbs when I finally started working out and now I can make good, versatile, yet quality choices when building up my wardrobe. I've cleaned out a lot in my closet and working on making mine look as good as yours.
Congrats on losing the weight!
Coleco Co Make sure to tailor your clothes now that your down some sizes, wouldn't want anyone missing out on all the hard work you did.
I keep coming back to this video. It's great how you show the different looks and explain everything. I also start off with pants. Great video thanks God bless. 👍👍👍
Awesome video, it changed my perspective on how I look at my closet. It literally made everything easier for me.
Glad to hear!
Art of Manliness does a mustache make you a man?
Not one thing makes you a man, rather many qualities, features, skills, etc. We strive to be not only men but gentlemen.
I probably shouldn't say I like this video since I work in a clothiers and my job is to try and get men to buy lots of clothes, but I do like this video a lot. It's awesome to see someone finally break down how versatile simple articles can be; denim-friendly blazers, chinos, white shirts, a dark suit, etc... which I always try to include into a mans wardrobe when doing a consultation. It's also great how you explained it's okay to have a few basics as long as you mix and match them into different outfits. I hate it when men insist they just need the one exact same outfit for every event like it's a military uniform or they're a cartoon character, I mean, at least change the tie.
Thanks for the kind words, Mitchellfw
***** Keep spamming those Deodorant man. It'll help you.
Nikhil Vetam He probably uses AXE.....sad teenagers these days, no hope to become a man
Amazing advice. Glad I found this channel. Your intros to different outfits were awesome :D
Amazing, starting my first job out of college and trying to learn business casual/professional dressing. Thank you
Greetings! I took your advice and had my shirts tailored. BEST MONEY I EVER SPENT. They wear like 300 dollar shirts now. Perfect fit, neat in appearance, and MANLY. Ordered your 4 books (autographed of course). Just finished reading "The art of Manliness", and just started " Manvotionals". Excellent books! Totally thrilled with my purchase. Going to start working on "the 100 books every man should read" that you mentioned in your first book. Let's just say I have a lot of reading in my future. Thanks for all that you do. Stay manly.
awesome, great video. great backyard too, man. basics are important. my only 2 rules for myself are to never buy anything that's not timeless and never to buy anything that doesn't already go with everything else that I own (this way I actually "build" a wardrobe, as opposed to just owning a bunch of shit). i also go for good quality stuff whenever i can, so it sticks around a lot longer (worth the investment, imo). great advice on donations as well. I think goodwill is a little bit bogus, try the mens shelter (especially this time of year). happy thanksgiving, AoM.
Stevie Raekwon Great philosophy towards clothing. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
Great information! Could you do a post or video on how to 'Speak to your Tailor'?... I've never brought a pair of pants or a shirt to a tailor to get adjusted and I am interested in learning more about that.
I hadn't seen this, but this is basically what I've learned in the last year. I LOVE my wolverine's. Expensive as well, but they look amazing and will last so long. I also have some Chippewa Apache's I really like.
Good advice, I was on the path but as usual I learned something. I can't wait to retire and clear out my work uniforms, I'll have twice as much room for my minimal wardrobe!
Truly good stuff. Thank you.
***** You're welcome!
Solid info. Thx man!
Thanks, dude
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Thanks for the tips!!
I stumbled upon your channel recently and have watched several. Excellent guidance! At the end you of this video, you talk about editing out unused articles of clothing. I have a method of determining what stays and what goes. I return my hanging clothes to the left side of the closet, and select generally from the right. This does 2 things. It keeps me from over-wearing favorite items, and it shows what I never wear, as they are eventually parked at the far right of the hanging rod. Occasionally, I purge that end.
I myself have three rules for a manly wardrobe:
1) Dress according to use. Nothing is less manly and more ridiculous than wearing trendy backwoodsman boots to work at a NYC tech startup.
2) Buy for longevity. Quality always trumps quantity for a man. This rule helps avoid unnecessary purchases because you're going to spend $200 on one pair of excellent, lifestyle-appropriate shoes, not $50 on four crappy 'fashion accessory' shoes. It also forces you to avoid trendy looks because you're not going to be overhauling your wardrobe at H&M every year.
3) Don't worry about men's fashion. Appearance is important, but the appearance of worrying about appearance is unmanly. Keep accessories to a minimum, don't give in to trendy looks (uncuff you damn jeans), and don't try to draw attention to yourself using your clothes. You want people to notice your actions and your personality instead. That's manly.
Interesting comment. I'm very much into having a wide variety of nice quality clothing that's appropriate for my lifestyle. My wardrobe is diverse with various colors, textures, and styles. Yet, I'm an introverted person who shuns the spotlight, and so I have this dichotomy where I'm trying to look really sharp, but not too flashy so as to be the center of attention. Thus I try to downplay my outfits with my low key personality. Basically, the approbation that I seek from people is for them to associate me with middle class quality, not lower class gaudiness, or upper class superfluity.
My trouble is sometime I buy a 400$ suit (at a Men's clothing store like Moore's) and after wearing 4 times, the fabric between the legs starts to thin and rip. The I get a 40$ pair of trousers at sears, doesn't feel as high-end at the touch but still looks good and it lasts me more than a year. I have to wear a suit at least 4 days a week, so cheap but sturdy suits are a better investment for me that nice expensive suits.
But I actually cuff my jeans so there isn't bunching of material at the bottom. I wear my "trendy boots" because they are well made and last me years in various seasons and resolable.
Very sensible I concur
Hey I like cuffing my jeans fuck you
im a girl and i really enjoyed this video! I wanna apply these principles to my wardrobe :)
I'm 15 now, and I'm not sure when to switch from teen style light denim and tees to an actual wardrobe like you have here. I know it won't be for at least like 3 or 4 years, maybe even a few years into college, but it's just something I like to think about.
22 now?
Thanks Brad! Been thinking a lot about my wardrobe latelly and you have some great suggestions!
You're welcome!
I literally said "Wow that looks sharp!" At 8:24
I'm not sure if i want your wardrobe or your back porch more
Awesome video - I am going to share with my male clients - simple and classic. Love it. Thanks!
"Versatile" is the key word there, great video Brett!
This was awesome
Gracias.
Next I'll need to learn proper hygiene, food intake, and hitting the gym/home gym. go from video game beer gut nerd to Brad Pitt
Sounds like a good plan.
How’s it coming bout to start that
Very simple adequate tutorial. Thanks a lot.
I realize I am female, but I still very much enjoyed your video. My husband and I have purged and removed so much stuff from our lives, but the one thing that I just refuse to touch is my husband's clothes. Well...except holey socks. Those can ALL go. I hope to show this video to the hubby soon! =)
ur mustache dear sir is dapper 😎😎
Why have I never heard of this channel ?? It's brilliant btw what's the name of his podcast?
Great tips. Thank you. The video itself is great, too; good examples, good visuals, awesome presentation. No wasted words either. Well done, sir.
these videos are so inspiring
I just "went Darwinian" with my closet last week. Most of what I found were specimens of otherwise extinct species. Since I don't have several thousand dollars to spend on a new wardrobe at the moment, I'm going to take this advice and see what I can build around a few good pieces.
Cladwell wants your credit card number up front.
This is great if you want to use the word minimal while spending all of your money. For me, I do laundry about every five days. Five days of clothes (for me) consists of five shirts, two pairs of jeans, one pair of overalls, and a modest supply of socks and underwear. Done. I have not needed a suit since I was 15, but if I need one I'll just stop at a thrift store and pay a solid $30 for one. In my opinion, this is pretty complicated for something considered minimal.
I agree with the twice-per-year purge, with the exception of my suit. If I haven't worn my suit in the last six months, it means that I haven't attended any funerals lately. That's a good thing.
Also, I have a rule that I can't bring home a new clothing item without pulling out a similar-but-outdated item.
Good call on not purging the suit.
Those chinos fit fine. Chinos are not very dressy, so they can totally be less than perfectly fitting. They always used to be a little loose, just look at any old pictures of people who wore them. The recent fad with tight-fitting clothing has been too overzealous.
I completely agree. Also it depends on your body. Skinny can make you look top-heavy and imbalanced really quick
What if I'm living two lifestyles (one secret) and I'm just tryna get the best of both worlds?
This is practical and gentlemen like, thank you sir, u have opened my eyes
Thank you so much Bred
You look very sharp and handsome in those clothes but also quite...dad-like. Not that that's a problem. Aha I appreciate the tips though and I'll take them into forming my own minimal wardrobe. Have a great day c:
Well, seeing how I'm a dad, that's not a problem.
I think every man needs a flannel and a 10year old sweater
Yes
At least 10 if not older
I really wish you didn't stop making videos. Your content is amazing and so are you
I was like, "this is what the RMRS guy told me!" And then you mention him at the end. Good job!
"Mama just killed a man, put a gun against his head.....pulled the trigger now he's dead....."
What is the deal with the Freddy Mercury look? Has that made a comeback since the 1980's?
Freddie*
U mad because you can't grow a moustachio?
shelleyinthecity Because Freddie Mercury invented the moustache, and it hasn't been popular for hundreds of years...and he's the first and last to wear one, right?
3:23 Ned FLANDERS is that you ?
I'd love Brett to do an on the road wardrobe make over video for some of his viewers. Starting at my house, lol. Great tips. Thanks Brett!
Thank you for another helpful video. I am surprised by how well your suit complements your mustache. It works really well.
It sounded great at first, until I saw they want you to pay. C'mon, now.
+distopianfuture It used to be free
You know why beggar's look like shit. They can't pay.
Big Rock and here I am thinking it's because they can't be choosers
Wow, it amazed me to see how many negative comments are on this video because, he said, "I wear it to church only on Sundays."
If these "men," only knew the level of Manliness it actually takes to live a life after God's own heart, they would see that they are just boys.
Keep it up, bro. I only wear my suits to church, too. Because no ones deserves the best in my closet more than my God.
Isaac you gay bro?
@@papayama3678 is that an insult or an invitation? I'm leaning toward invitation
Isaac A true man is not ashamed of God and Jesus Christ. God bless you.
Papayama Change your tampon -- you're starting to stink.
Very Good Video! I think you hit the nail on the head on what most guys are interested in!
This is the second video that i watch from this channel and i have to accept that there are a lot of things i didn't care about! Thanks for the tips!
What city do you live in? You have a really nice townhouse.
MrIskate101 i believe he's out in Tulsa, Oklahoma
ur such a cool dude but for the love of god slim down on ur dress pants. theyre so freakin baggy
Do you not understand that the reason some men have baggy dress pants, is due to a "large seat".if you are packing some impressive muscle in your hips and legs, then you can not wear thin pants properly.
Remember, clothes are designed to fit the man not the man to the clothes.
AznSensAsians If you have matchstick legs, then you'll look fine in slim pants. If you have thick legs you won't look good in slim pants.
It's more of a problem with them being pleated. Those make trousers look so much bigger and you look so much fatter.
As someone who does have rather muscly legs, wearing slim jeans or other slim trousers looks great, but skinny is just not good. That being said, not many people can pull off the skinny (hipster) trousers look.
AznSensAsians i absolutely agree. those pants are way too heterosexual to the point it's uncool to be worn in 2015!
+AznSensAsians I only ever wear balloon pants.
absolutely loved all the different aspects of this vid, well put together and very clear. Versatility and simplicity is a key quality to being a Man. I love and live on versatility. What this video shows is that its very easy to look good without really trying to "look good".
Thanks!
Nice wardrobe! Definitely what I was looking for without looking too preppie
Nice outfits but I would think you would be more into fitted well-fitting clothing. Nearly all your clothes are very baggy and odd looking.
What can I do to look sharp when I'm obese ? I have like real issues with tucking in my shirt because it looks gross, any idea on what I can do ? :/
Here you go: www.artofmanliness.com/2013/07/24/large-man-style/
Thank you very much, this somehow slipped un-noticed :)
Lose the weight?
Art of Manliness
Thanks! Though I would not consider myself obese, I am in the 'fullback' category and I find it hard to find nice clothing to look good in without looking like some '70s LV gangster. So basically, any tips for people between yourself and the obese? Thanks!
Great vid man, love the simplify advice... i know I’ve got clothes I’ve not looked at in years.
Almost a million views! Wooooooo! Rock those poses Brett!
nice vid, but you've gotta tailor those pants bro
With all due respect to your personal style, why the 'stache? While facial hair doesn't ages the face (DUH!), you have 3 choices: 1:You are Freddie Mercury 2:You are Rob Burgundy 3:That kind of moustache does age your face. I don't know where do you work at or would they accept it at your workplace but a well trimmed but larger fullbeard or even a handlebar (if you are not afraid of being called either a hipster or a gypsy) would fit you better in my opinion.
His moustache looks great on him in my opinion!
Why? Because I like it.
But thanks for your unsolicited anonymous internet opinion.
Art of Manliness
Your stache is great.
Art of Manliness Ever considered a full-face beard? It'd be interesting...
Art of Manliness If you like it roll with it, i just think that facial hair is similar to hairstyle because in both cases the facial shape plays a huge role in looking good or bad and in my opinion a Chevron/Zappa style works only with peoples who have really long faces or pointy jaws(diamond shape or heart shape). You sir, as far as i can see have a less pronounced mentum, in between the oval and the round facial type somewhere so personally i would either grow something pointy(a handlebar, a ducktail beard or even a pancil mustache) or something that gives my face a bit more length(a longer fullbeard).
As far as the other thing goes...unsolicited...yeah sorry, i didn't mean to offend you! Anonymus...i know that it would be a lot more credible and nice if i would show my full name but i have all of my comment history, playlists etc on this account and i cant change my name so i will stick with this.
Studio-closet? Genius! Clothes provide great sound absorption
10:40 it simply tells your taste and needs evolves. Nice video. Thanks.
thumbs down, the website is not free
Yeah that annoyed me.
+File Saved same
+5Siver it was
8:45 Dad mode activate
If you get a suit, try and get a second pair of pants. Generally the pants will ware out faster and this way you can reduce the replacement cycle.
If you do not fit well into a clothing store suit (off the rack), consider getting yourself a tailor made suit (i.e. made to measure). I switched to tailored about a year ago and haven't looked back. Also, because of the extra 'tailoring' I was paying for when it came to the off the rack, switching to a tailor paid for itself.
Awesome data, so helpful for men! simple and basic! good stuff.
the trend nowadays is skinner tighter trousers not those baggy ones
well i think it look more manly and nice over all
Dont buy razor skinny jeans or loose jeans its doesn't make you look manly if they are baggy, its makes you look like a poor slob. The rule of thumb is get the tapered look, its timeless.
Definition of Tapered: Taper Fit : Tapered jeans that are simply roomier at the top and narrower towards the ankle. They are usually fairly form-fitting and considered a type of skinny jeans.
Echo Affliction I can agree with you on that. A good pair of tapered jeans or khakis are very versatile. Not too tight on the ankle, but not too baggy. I can wear a pair of my slightly tapered jeans with my boots while at work, or cuff the ends and wear with a nice pair of sneakers. Looks good with both. Just don't get an ankle hugging pair of tapered jeans and look like a goof.
Quad Squad Exactly, there perfect! And depending on what wash of chinos or denim you are wearing you can add some oxfords, a blazer nice belt and shirt and you're set! Top it off with some nice shades and pocket square and you will look gangster.
Mid Mid they look fucking shit.
how to look like your southern white stepdad
Better than than being Caucasian, and dressing ghettoe.
added this video to my playlist i'll check this probably after 30 years! :D
This is great info, nice stash too.
Never wear baggy pants to a suit. That's not a good look. Even for church.
Thank the lord, someone with sense, suits are built to fit well👌
couldn't agree more
thats one thing too avoid when it comes to suits.
I think it looks very good on him. Makes him look smarter.
Amen!
Your advice is sound, but you definitely need to work on the fit of your clothes.
I loved the final tip about getting rid of clothes you've no longer worn for the past 6 months. Personally, I have difficulty throwing away or getting rid of stuff, especially clothing. But it's useless to leave clothing just hanging there in the closet when you could also donate it to people who would actually wear it. I reckon this knowledge would also make it easier to give them away.
Thanks for the helpful advice.
When I became a woodworker like 6 months ago my wardrobe changed from solid color t-shirts and shorts from jcpenny to flanels and two well fitting pairs of jeans and a couple baggier pair. still got all the t-shirts I've got to go through at some point.
How about baggier pants bruuuuuuuuuuuuuh.
Seriously Twat?
UrbanDanger ! What you talking bout bruhhhh?
No offence but the cut of all of your trousers is absolutely horrendous. Otherwise, good vid
Atleast someone else noticed.
+nickthesnowman i think the same... all of his trousers are awful. they are way to big...
+nickthesnowman fitted is the way to go
I agree...for someone doing a video about what to wear...you certainly have NO sense of what a good cut is...almost all the pants, most of the shirts, and BOAT shoes? Are you serious? Boat shoes!?! Even for a straight guy you should know better...or at least your advertisers should!
+RafeeeeS
I'd rather have someone like this guy than all these dudes with their body-fit shirts and Skinny Chinos.
Very interesting video. I've had that mentality for quite some time, you know, suit or two, some nice khakis and a few dress shirts. Throw that on with some nice leather shoes and you're one classy and casual gentleman. Having some more examples of a simple sweater or sport coat really helped. Thank you so much.
This was really helpful. I'll try it!