Puukko Knives, traditional tool of the north
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2021
- Review of a few puukko knives, some from Scandinavia some not. Jarvenpaa, Roselli, Mora, Erapu, Bark River, Spyderco. These are tools, which excel at wood carving.
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Love All My Puukkos .
Could watch vids on puukkos all day. Such a simplistic and minimalist design.
No Damascus steel required, no one harping on about how they're not full tang (if they've used and understand their functionality), no argument necessary about if uses the most expensive super steel in the world by someone that lets it sit inside their knife drawer...
A true tool for sure, and this video does it great justice. Nice work!
As a Finn, having been around these things since child, it's interesting to make comparisons. I saw in a video the old puukko maker said the steel they use is a rusting one by choice, as it gives the best results for the blade. Even though it rusts it stays sharp, which is sort of opposite what you'd expect. Another point I'd make is that I think the lack of groove or a shield at the base of the blade is great for woodworking detailed things where you'd run your fingers on top of the blade. The design is more flexible this way, yet, more dangerous obviously. When I was a kid, my dad taught me how to handle a puukko which was important. How to hold it in your hand (blade down), how to hand it to somebody else (holding the blade), and how to stick it onto something (hold your thumb on the back of the knife). I think the dangerous design needs these rules taught well before handling one, and I know many people cut themselves by accident.
Thank you. I find that my knife of choice is almost always a puukko, and I reach for my old Jarvempa puukko most often. The simple but elegant design is so useful and the carbon steel blade takes such a keen edge that there is little need for anything else.
I don't think in terms of handicraft hand knives you can have anything better. Puukkos have evolved to perfection as multi-purpose knives
I think i know the video you meant. He was talking about just quality of steel. Not even that long ago "stainless steel" knives were kinda bad, but also steel technology has come leaps ahead right now. Still though if you actually forge knives the simple high carbon steel is better than modern "super steels". I think you are talking about Kustaa Lammi video hes not saying knife stays sharp even rusty hes just saying carbon steel is better than stainless, and when the video was filmed it was actually 100% true. Super steels of today are not good to forge, but forging also wont give magic to the knives, and actually factory made suoer steel knife will surpass everuthing over traditional ones, but thats not the point.
And the groove really is for lightening the blade, and it became common in finnish knives in like 19th century ss Kauhava really started to produce knives its actually called fuller or blood groove "veriura" in finnish, but has absolutely nothing to do with blood or any that kinds stuff. Modern manufacturers like Lauri dont do fullers, and such because its just one extra step, and even historically they are fairly "modern" in puukkos
@@lalli8152 I think you should just read a bit more accurate. I didn't say a carbon steel puukko will stay sharp if it rusts. I said it stays sharp even though it's made from steel that rusts. Then you misread me a second time and thought I am talking about veriura (blood groove). I wasn't. I said a puukko doesn't have finger protection. Thirdly, your theory about the origin of veriura is subjective and unconfirmed. Lightening is one option. In any case I wasn't talking about that.
Now that i own a martiini 250, i am in love with these style of knives, the traditional look and feel is just something special 👍
I used them since maybe six years old and bought my first good one at fourteen 😊
Still got it.
The Mora robust ìs a handyman knife and a forest knife. The reason to the button clip is traditional here in Sweden. manufacturer's attach a button on and a loop the right leg. It's easier to get the knife from there when you're working then from the belt. Interesting film
Here in norway atleast back in the day men were taught if thrusting/stabbing with a knife you should curl your little finger behind the butt of the handle to prevent your hand from slipping forward. It's also good practice when cleaning out larger animals.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the tip!
Nice knife you made 😊. Greetings from Finland
Loved your video! I’m half Norwegian and have several puukkos. I even have a folding Helle Dokka. These knives cut like nothing else plus they look like nothing else. Thanks 🖖🏻
I have and use many finish puukko ,BB [ birch bark,] and of course curly birch /karelian birch ,are most traditional...nice video ..
Puukko is specifically a finnish sheath knife, the general word for a knife in finnish is veitsi, but we do call all knives here that resemble a puukko a puukko even if they're technically not.
Thank you! I appreciate the clarification.
One of the best reviews on this topic.
Excellent video! I love puukkos!
Bark River knives ar made in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan where there a a lot of people of Finnish decent.
The "Zero" grind edge, also has reduced edge retention. The edge will dull much faster, That and the reduced edge stability, are enough reasons to choose a balanced steel Scandi knife, with a good heat treatment. Don't go cheap with those knives, if you want them for use and not just a collectors piece. Go for steels that provide better edge stability and decent edge retention. Mid Carbon steels, like 52100 ballbearing steel, is one of the best options, if not THE best steel for such knives. That being said, heat treatment of the steel, and proper bevels, are more important. You did really good job on this video. It shows you've used these knives and you have some experience. I've seen a ton of videos, and channels that pop out of nowhere like mushrooms, where all the creators are "Experts" however, they don't know half of what you put into this video....Good job!
Upper Michigan has a large Nordic population,🤔👍 so I'm sure also the Bark River knife is inspired by the puukko knives. Thanks for sharing.🌟🌟🌟🌟
That's a beautiful pukko
Great video, my friend! And really nice work on the Puukko you made by yourself!
nice collection. I enjoyed the video
The marbles is a meat processing knife inspired by a fighting knife (bowie).
The Puuko is primarily desined for carving.
Both knives can be used as general purpose. Both knives should be kept equally sharp.
The full flat grind of most american style hunting knives is more robust as is the more substantial tang and scale handle design. The stainless also makes them easier to maintain.
Puukko knives really have changed very little since viking times and traditionally are quite small (blade length of 2-4 inches)
The Puukkos are light and beautiful and much better at carving wood.
Puuko's traditionaly are multi use , being used for everything from gutting fish, to skinning , cutting meat, Kitchen vegetable prep and also wood carving... specific wood carving puukos usualy have different shaped blades and tend to be shorter with a narrower point.
Detailed explanation. Thanks bro!
Great job on your self made knife!
Very well presented and interesting to listen video. Only I would like to point out that mora is not a puukko. The puukko is Finnish knife and the mora is swedish. But that's not the main thing. A puukko has primary bevel that is higher than the half way the width of the blade. In most cases 2/3 or more. And yes - a real puukko has no finger guard.(i didn't know this information myself until I came across a post of Pekka Tuominen on some forum )
Thanks for sharing your opinion on these awesome knives , Cheers
Really good video buddy and your holly puukko looks great.
Best wishes from Finland.
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Also, that knife and especially the sheath you made- a thing of beauty! Very impressive. I would be proud to have made something like that.
I gave it to my daughter. It was a labor of love.
Great content,just taken that you did not mention Wirkkala Puukko.
I like the scandi grinds for woodwork, but often they are terrible slicers. Some really nice puukkos in your collection.
I agree, especially those made of thick steel. The "rhomboid" puukkos, however, are great slicers. The two I have are the Spyderco and the Jarvempa.
@@bryanmarsh9886 Good to know! Thanks .
Benchmade Puuko is a great knife and the Leuku they make. I have both. Both 3v tool steel. By far the baton thru kiln dried oak with no chipping whatsoever. And though carve fairly decent. Not as deep as a scandi grind though.
I have the 5 inch forest I have been looking hard for a shorter one like yours!!
Thank you for an outstanding tutorial on puukko knives. I absolutely love your handmade knife and, more importantly, your sheath design. Interested in selling me one perhaps?
I really enjoyed this video! Great collection and thanks for explaining some of your puukkos!
Note: I believe fullers (also referred to as blood grooves) lighten and stiffen blades, they also help to prevent "suction" for instance when slicing/cutting meat.
Can i just say as a fellow knife enthusiasts.......bravo..my man...beautiful build. What will it take for you to make me one??
Fantastic in depth video,, thank you,, I'm looking to get my first traditional Puukko, would you recommend Ahti, as a good starting point,? Also for my first one, which blade length is most useful, do you think, ,? All the best from England,,,
I really prefer the hand forged carbon steel knives for sentimental reasons but I am not giving up as much as most people think by going that route. People who have years of experience working with the same steel develope a level of perception that is influenced by so many subtle clues to all your senses both known and esoteric that we simply call it intuition in our ignorance. They are able to coax very impressive performance from humble steels and more importantly they can do this consistently and likely in their sleep. Any steel can be terrible if the heat treatment is not done properly and many steels can have surprisingly stable edges and wear resistance with the appropriate alchemy and ritual. Or" How I learned to stop worrying and love the sharpening stone! "
That said if you are on the broke side and live in a humid or salty environment 12c27 and 14c28n are really great inexpensive stainless steels that aren't too awfully difficult to heat treat properly so they can be very respectable from a factory as long as they are somewhat competent like Morakniv and most reputable manufacturers.
Is carbon or stainless steel better for using the spine for striking a ferro rod? Does it have to be a 90 degree spine
Thank you very much for your perspective on traditional scandinavian knife design! This was very interesting! I have used Mora Knifes from a young age (my mother was actually born not far from the town of Mora) and in those days they had no protection whatsoever for your fingers. Many hand injuries among the unskilled public imposed the change in design I believe. Do you own any Sapmi made knifes? They usually have reindeer antler sheaths, and might be the ancestor of every Norwegian, swedish or finnish knife I think.
Propably all those knives share the same proto design.
Loved the one I had for over 30 years, but it was stolen.
Interestingly, the “traditional American hunting knife” you showed is actually an English pattern from Sheffield. Granted, yours may have been US made, but it’s an imported design. Really interesting video, thanks.
Everything I've read says the exact opposite of what you do. I haven't seen any Sheffield versions of the Marbles design that predate the 1890's debut of the Ideal. Do you have any proof that the English makers had this design before Marbles?
Super informative. More like taking a class in Pukko. Need Links! Hard for an illiterate like me to figure out how to spell the companies that make these knives.
One of my favorite sites is Ragweed Forge.
ragweedforgestore.com/
I sliced my finger on a puukko one time. Dear God! That was the worst cut I've ever taken. It was so fine, it didn't even bleed at first. It was such a fine slice that it took a very long time to heal. Be very careful with a puukko. I learned my lesson. My actions are far more planned and deliberate now.
It's veriura.
Окей.
The knief time 1:31 what it name ? Thanks
It is Marbles Ideal knife. It is at least 60 years old.
Thats not a Mora Robust. The Robust is a variation of the Basic(511). Yours is a Companion or Companion HD.
You would be correct if mine were a new robust. Mine is very old. I bought it long before the current "basic" line existed. The original version of the robust (mine) was based on the companion line, but the handle is slightly different, and the blade thicker than even the companion heavy duty.
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@bryanmarsh9886
Oh! I had never heard of this. That's interesting.
Thank you for clarifying.
Is the blade stock the same as on the Heavy Duty? Or is it even more as the HD, as it is in the Basic variant?
Yeah don't use puukko for stabbing. That's how you get your tendons in your fingers separated.
I can understand how Mora knives are a great value for the money, but they have no soul. If you take a Mora into the forest, the trees will not welcome you.
how dare u question mora, the trees will welcome you cause mora is almost 100% recycelt steel.
edit: morakniv is true to form, awesome performance and simple design.
i have a custom puukko but i will never turn down my mora.
I have one puukko, its made by Malanika.. my Moras,and i have a few are NOT puukkos, Feel free to disagree.
So saying "puukko knife" is redundant 😂
Well, some problems here. First, That Marbles knife may be what people think of when hunting comes to mind, but it is not, and never was, a typical American hunting knife. It's a fantasy knife made by a cheap company that really never made knives for anyone except teenagers and very ignorant non-outdoorsmen would use. Knives of that size almost didn't even exist in most places until the twentieth century when all sorts of silly knives were made, including what is mistakenly called a "Bowie" knife was reinvented for the same groups of teenagers and non-outdoorsmen. The typical belt hunting knife, which is also very, very recent in America, has a very small guard on the bottom only.
You don't cut yourself by stabbing, but by cutting meat when butchering an animal, and having the point hit a concealed bone. A guard is important, and absolutely does prevent unnecessary injuries. A small guard does nicely, like the plastic or rubber guard on a Mora. In America this would be made of metal, but serves the same purpose.
Second, a Scandi grind is not one bit sharper than any other grind, and is certainly no sharper than a average American knife, which is sad because razor sharp knives are a very stupid idea. The advantage of the Scandi grind is simply that it is far easier and faster to sharpen, even with poor sharpening stones, than other grinds. Even someone who has never, ever sharpened a knife can learn to sharpen a Scandi grind in five minutes or less.
Really, the only reason every knife you see or buy has a razor bevel on it is because the CZcams knife community was started by amateurs, and fueled by ex-military who can't tell a knife from a flamingo. A few companies, including Ka-Bar, ignored these amateurs and still put a knowledgable bevel angle on their knives. The funny thing is that most who buy Ka-Bars have no clue anythinhg is different, until they ruin the bevel trying to sharpen it when it eventually gets dull, which takes a very long time compared to a razor angle bevel.
The trouble with CZcams is that people on CZcams learned from other people on CZcams, on and on. It's the blind leading the ignorant, at least where knives and wilderness survival are concerned. Like those giant, and completely ignorant, "survival" knives the ex-military brought to CZcams. The military has never used knives anything like those monstrosities. The Ka-Bar is reaqlly the only workable large survivale knife made. And even it isn't as useful for most situations as the pocketknife the military hands out.
The pocketknife has actually been the most carried, the most used, and the best survival knife of nearly every industrial nation for four hundred years. It's still fr and away the best, and outside of CZcams silliness, a good part of the world, and at leawst three militaries, depend on a pocketknife for survival. The Swiss Army knife is considered the best survival/wilderness/hunting/uility knife in very large parts of the world. It should be. It's better than anything called a survival knife on CZcams.
Even in America, the pocketknife has done ninety percent of all city work, and ninety percent of all wilderness work, since about 1600. Anyone who knows knives, and who actually knows how to live in the wilderness, still carries a pocketknife with more than one blade. Not a silly, childiss flip type knife with a single blade. Those are for people who watch too many bad movies. Whether it's a hunter style with two blades, a Stockman with three blades, or a Swiss Army knife, if you don't carry one, you have no business at all in the wilderness.
I love tradition, but the Nordic people carried two knives, one the size of yours, and one a good deal larger. With better technology, the small one would have been a pocketknife, and the large one would never have had a Scandi grind.
Of course in today's world even a large portion of CZcams adults act like little babies at the though of using a folding knife without locking blades. It's scary how sissified that is, but it's common all over CZcams. Thankfully, there are still large areas of America, and major portions of the world, where seven year old kids are still given such knives, and don't grow up to be sissies.
I have no idea where you got the bad information on the Marbles Ideal. It was designed over 120 years ago and is made extremely well. Mine is at least 50 years old and is a fantastic knife. It intrigues me that you praise the Kabar when it was designed as a larger version of the Marbles Ideal. Did you know that Marbles is credited with inventing the stacked leather handle? I agree that the double guard is useless unless it is a fighting knife - but many Ideals like mine only have one guard. There is a reason that hunters including my grand and great-grandfather carried and used these knives. There are a lot of cheapo imitations, but a real USA made Marbles is a quality knife, despite your prejudices.
"The trouble with CZcams is that people on CZcams learned from other people on CZcams, on and on."
I see your issue, which has its basis in a conceited arrogance. The thing is, your words are your opinion, which are based on the same perceived ignorance you are ranting about. One chooses the appropriate tool for the job for which it was specifically designed. Try telling a Sami reindeer herder that he needs to carry a folder in either "a hunter style with two blades, a Stockman with three blades, or a Swiss Army knife, if you don't carry one, you have no business at all in the wilderness.", they are going to laugh at you then gently pat your head.
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Looks cheap