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Top 10 Cards That “Can’t be Countered” in MTG
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Counterspells are often extremely powerful cards, with some of the best cards in older formats being counterspells of some kind. So, it makes sense that cards that are immune to their effects would be very strong. So today, we’re going over the best cards that are either uncounterable themself or make your other spells uncounterable.
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├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10: Lier, Disciple of the Drowned: (0:15)
9: Boseiju, Who Shelters All: (1:56)
8: Niv-Mizzet, Parun: (3:50)
7: Thrun, the Last Troll: (5:46)
6: Dovin’s Veto: (7:12)
5: Allosaurus Shepherd: (8:51)
4: Veil of Summer: (10:54)
3: Supreme Verdict: (12:16)
2: Cavern of Souls: (13:46)
1: Abrupt Decay: (15:47)
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.)
Fun fact related to Thrun: in the older days of Magic, before Hexproof became a codified keyword, it was often referred to as "troll shroud", since we had Shroud (This permanent can't be the target of _any_ spells or abilities, even your own.), but the version where the controller could still target something but their opponent couldn't was rather often seen on Troll type creature cards - most notably Thrun, and thus the term "troll shround" came to be used for that effect even on other cards, like Asceticism or Canopy Cover.
I believe the original troll which gave rise to the term “troll shroud” was Troll Ascetic from the original Mirrodin set.
@@chrayez yeap
Every long time jund player will know of this troll of a legend.
Actually, hexproof was referred to as “trollshroud” because of Troll Ascetic, which predates Thrun and is, in fact, the inspiration for Thrun.
Lier as a commander is always fun to put a counterspell on the stack, hold priority, and flashback an unsummon on him.
2 mana is fair but not really worth. adding damage would be too good as boros charm is currently the only one that does 4 for 2 and only to players
FYI, the opponent can let the unsummon resolve and then counter your counter.
I love how the 8:00 explanation on "counter wars" is pretty much just describing yugioh negates
Honorable mention to the card Last Word, a 2UU counter spell that can't be countered. It's a bad rate, but the flavor text is pretty great: "Someday, somebody will best me. But it won't be today, and it won't be you."
Beyond the art, one of my favorite things about cracking open a new set is taking the time to read through the flavor text. Some of the lore is rich. . .some of them are thought provoking, others are downright silly. May Flavor text never go away.
I like it as a concept but I think Dovin's Veto is better overall even though it doesn't work on creatures
A natural follow-up to this video would be "Top 10 cards that can counter uncounterable spells" including the likes of Ertai's Meddling, Venser, Mindbreak Trap, etc
Time stop, a personal favorite of mine
You did it, you got the video
You can tell this is a new channel in the MTG community because the comments section is nothing but players complaining about something with minor bothering to listen in the video.
Video idea, deep dives on popular full decks in various formats:
• Central idea, win conditions
• decklist breakdown to reveal some of the key synergies. Maybe with a visualization of a board state on screen
• how well it fit into its meta game
• key moments from tournaments, with deck board state on screen
• other stats like combined deck cost
Very much enjoy your channel as a novice mtg player but a professional mtg appreciator!
Awesome like usual
Was hoping for Counterflux to make the list.
2 Blue, 1 Red
Can't be countered.
Counter target spell you don't control.
Overload 2 Blue, 1 Red, 1 of any color: Counter every spell you don't control.
It was never good outside of Standard, I think.
@@fernandobanda5734 Probably. I use it in red/blue commander to shut down rampant Eye of the Storm counter wars.
Next one should be cards with "split second", assuming you haven't done that yet. It would be a psuedo continuation of this one, as all split second cards inherently have the "uncounterable" ability.
Also, side note for this specific video, one of my favorite "counter" spells in magic is Ertai's Meddling, and I put counter in quotes because technically speaking, Ertai's Meddling doesn't counter a spell on the stack, it just delays the spell's resolution for X amount of turns, which is great for so many reasons, even if you only delay it by 1 turn.
>all split second cards inherently have the "uncounterable" ability
They do not. Split second only prevents activated abilities and spells being cast while it is on the stack.
Triggered abilities will counter them, like those from Counterbalance and Erayo's Essence, you can also use special actions like the morph abilities on Voidmage Apprentice or Kheru Spellsnatcher, or the cycling ability on a Decree of Silence or Complicate to counter the ability directly, or still other ways like giving the target protection via morph ability on Aven Liberator. (this also works against "cant be countered" spells since the game rules just remove it from the stack and put it into the graveyard when it fizzles due to no longer having a legal target.
There's also likely plethora of ways to get something like a Venser or Ashioks Erasure entering the battlefield via triggers caused by using a special action in order to stop a split second spell. One that I've personally played was had an Escape Protocol and Venser in play and opponent played Krosan Grip targeting it, cycled something for the Escape protocol trigger, paid to flicker Venser and return the Krosan grip to their hand with the Venser's trigger when he reentered, could also have used the Venser to bounce the Escape Protocol itself so the Krosan fizzles to the graveyard.
@@zym6687 Fair enough, I agree, however I do think it would be a fun little psuedo-continuation of the video 😊
Another banger of a video 💯
I’m surprised dragonlord dramoka wasn’t on this list, it can’t be countered and makes your spells basically uncounterable during your turn (yes I know counter abilities exist but those are few in number and rarely used). Also, I makes it so your opponents can only use what they have on the board during your turn
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Surprised 15 mana emrakul wasn't on here. Sure, it isn't usually cast so that ability isn't usually relevant but I expected at least an honorable mention.
It's cast fairly regularly in Legacy, with Show and Tell -> Omniscience, and given that several of these card literally can be countered (they only protect other spells), I don't think they were that strict on what they would and would not count to be in the running. I assumed Emrakul would just be a constant "and then obviously Emrakul is #1" on this channel, whenever it could be included on a list. Yes, 15 mana is a big ask, but there are plenty of ways to get around it, and it is one of the strongest plays you can make, with or without the cast trigger.
All in all, Abrupt Decay taking the number one spot was just weird. If it weren't for Pioneer, Abrupt Decay would've basically disappeared from relevance completely by now, with all the other better options for cheap removal spells without nearly as restrictive a casting cost. Toward the end, I had thought they'd forgotten to include it at all, despite probably still deserving a #6-7 slot.
Same. Post decks still slam emrakul as one of their top ends
Fun fact: You can use counterspells on cards that can't be countered. They just won't be countered, but if your counterspell has other beneficial effects they might trigger, depending on how the counterspell is worded.
I'd like to see a spell that has hexproof now just for the weird interactions
Amazing!
Top Ten Cards That Have Made The Number One Spot On One Of This Channel's Top Ten Lists.
You could even do this one for Yu-Gi-Oh! too.
Top Ten Effect Redirecting Cards.
An example card: Willbender, from the Commander 2014 blue preconstructed deck.
Going in, I thought OG emmy was going to be on the list for sure. Though, considering she's basically never cast, I can see why she's excluded from this list.
Krosan Grip used to be used in Legacy Elves and is still the sideboard card you want if you somehow want to play monogreen. But especially before Abrupt Decay it was a staple sideboardcard in the deck. So here's my honourary mention to Krosan Grip.
Here’s an idea: what about a video/series maybe about going over specific mechanics/keywords/whatever else and explaining what they do, what/if they had any effect on the competitive scale, potential uses and possibly some uses that people weren’t aware about. An example would be with Ninjutsu and how you can still use it after damage is dealt not just before
Void rend is really useful against control decks, since it deals with things like Haughty Djinn and it can't be countered.
Notably the "Can't be countered" line on Lier is a nerf. It stops them from being played in control decks and locking people out of the game by flashbacking counterspells.
How a out top 10 5 color spell , or 5 color support cards ?
I just go into Painbow CMD deck and it is really fun. 🤣
In someway, Emrakul the Aeons Torn might be one of the strongest uncounterable cards, because it stops one of the only potential outs of the card, and the rest of the text covers removal of other types. Busted card.
The curiousity niv-mizzet combo you mentioned often isn't enough to actually win by itself in commander: unless the number of cards left in your deck exceeds the total of all of your opponents life totals.
If you can't win after drawing your deck and dealing 40-70 damage to your opponents or their board then I don't know what to tell you
@@jamesyoung3731 The problem is that if you can't finish off every opponent, you'll lose by decking out unless you have Laboratory Maniac or manage to stop the loop somehow.
@@alexandrapharmic6635 it's very easy to stop the loop with niv, and you can either use glint horn buccaneer to discard your hand for the rest of the damage, or just hold a hand of 7 counterspells and kill the last player with commander damage
@@alexandrapharmic6635 You just get Niv to ping himself to stop the loop. It's super easy.
@@simonteesdale9752 Curiosity says "you may draw a card" so you don't even have to kill Niv, you can just decline to draw as soon as you have pieces in hand to win.
In the same vein as Veil of Summer, I have three more words for you...
Teferi, Time Raveler
I love these lists and have been enjoying them a lot lately and gotten some great ideas. But how could you not put Vexing Shusher, the single best card in mtg
Does time stop beat all spells?
I miss Toski in Standard, he was such a fun card in Green Stompy
i play him as a 1-of in legacy maverick
ii think one of the ways those spells can be countered is with abilities that empty the stack, like, Obeka for example
I understand why it isn't on the list, however my favorite spell that can't be countered is Thought Distortion. Mainly because it looks like an ad for Five gum "This is what it feels like to chew Five gum." =P
In edh decree of silence when cycled is very hard to counter since stifle effects hardly see play. Or atleast last l played anyway
I think vail got under rated, because not only is it essentially a cryptic command for one green when you use it, it also stops three of the cards higher on the list if played in response to dovens veto supreme verdict or abrupt decay.
Maybe not so much in other formats but in edh, if you have access to green then you must run this card
Almost completely guarantees that when it's time to go off you will be completely protected to do so
Kinda surprised hullbreaker horror isn’t on the list but understandable
Would a bolt that can’t be countered be worth 2 mana? Or would it also have to deal additional damage?
I mean Lightning Strike is a fine card as just a 2 mana bolt already, so adding can't be countered would be pretty good. Probably not as good as just plain Lightning Bolt, as it's pretty hard to profitably counter a 1 mana spell, and it's usually good for you if they're burning their counterspells on a bolt instead of literally anything else you have in your deck. Still, just a better Lightning Strike would not be unwelcome.
Sudden Shock which is very similar costs 1R but only deals 2, so 3 might be too strong.
Any 1 mana spell may as well be uncounterable since you're usually spending more mana to counter it than the spell you're countering. It's one reason the Mox cards are so broken even though none of them are immune to being countered
Top 10 cards with a kicker
Notable omissions:
Malevolent Hermit
Sudden Edict
Emrakul The Aeons Torn
Meanwhile, Lier LITERALLY CAN BE COUNTERED.
Somehow, a card that can be countered made it onto a list of cards that can't be countered, but none of these did.
Just crazy.
@@dyne313 The list was cards that can't be countered or that makes it so that your other spells can't be countered. Veil is the same.
i missed toski on the list too
@@fernandobanda5734 The title of the video clearly says "Cards that cannot be countered". Veil can be countered.
@@dyne313 And the video itself explains the criteria further. It's not really an issue.
It's still not caterhoof. Check the R
Where is Emrakul?
in that one silver moon for now
@9:10 you mean LAN - O - WAR Elves... not Lanara or whatever you said.
Do a top ten broken keyword mechanics
Sad to see no Thought Distortion in there.
This makes me wonder if there were any cards that ignore the immunity to counters
Don't think so. There are spells that essentially counter a spell by exiling it, returning it to hand, library etc but don't actually have the text "counter target spell" on them so uncounterability doesn't apply.
Return target spell to its owner's hand
Top ten tribal cards in mtg?
sudden edict
Thrun the Last Troll.
Just. Thrun the Last Troll.
Lier is also legal in standard.
No love for Overmaster.
That actually sees Legacy play in the Epic Gamble and some variants of Ruby Storm and the Epic Storm.
Not powerful enough to make this kind of list but I HATE Terra Stomper with a passion. 3GGG for an 8/8 trampler that can't be countered. My group is pretty casual and my one friend has a bunch of these. I tend to play like aggro or control, usually decks that don't play a lot of big creatures. And I usually run some form of counter magic. This freaking card is the bane of my existence. He's so tactical at deploying it too where it's basically not worth it to block or is a 2 or 3 for 1 on me at best. I know I know, it still "dies to removal" but that's beside the point. I have been traumatized by this card enough times that the hate will burn in my heart forever.
Sounds like you need Glissa. First strike and deathtouch
What the hell did he say at 9:12????? Lenara??
ward is a counter to， decay will ignore ward。
First card reading the legality and was like what the fuck does nerfed in historic mean? And then I remember alchemy and was oh oh yea disgusting why I only play paper magic now so I never think about cards being "nerfed" lmao
Here to remind people that counterspell tribal makes everyone wish you step on Legos.
I couldn’t hear you over the sounds of your spells being countered.
Boseiju being legendary is another downside to it in Constructed formats, making multiple copies of it quite awkward to draw in your deck. And of course, running fewer copies means you’re less likely to draw it when you’d want it
Where is Chandra, Awakened Inferno? Surely it is better than Lier!
LIAR instead of LEER this dude is funny XD
first of all: "Time Stop" to rule them all.
4UU End the turn.
(Exile all spells and abilities from the stack, including this card. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.)
does not counter, but removes from the stack, so there is just no spell to resolve.
second of all:
you should do honorable mentions, when they bent the rules so they would technically fit into a list. namely abilities like:
Storm: creates copies of the spell on the stack. so even if the original spell gets countered, all the copies are still going off, and have to be countered individually. so under normal circumstances its "uncounterble" since all the copies still go off.
and
split second. at least uncounterable from spells or active abilities, since no one is allowed to use them on the stack while the split second spell is on it.
(but counterable by "automatic abilities", since no players puts them on the stack)
Time Stop isn't uncounterable nor helps your spells resolve.
@@fernandobanda5734 never said time stop would be uncounterable.
i said, Time stop does indirectly counter even uncounterable spells, by removing the spell(s) from the stack after they allredy have been cast, before they resolve.
@@dorping_Wolf Ohhh, I didn't get your point, that's why I was confused by Time Stop being mentioned.
There's usually never a good time to play Time Stop unless you can stick a seedborn muse
I've watched a dozen or so of these Magic videos, and I still haven't figured out what "tapped" is supposed to mean or if there's a Yugioh equivalent to it. Like how I'm pretty sure "exiled" and "banished" are the same thing.
Tapped is the equivalent of 'used this turn'
Instead of once per turn abilities (which MTG has started using recently), MTG uses tapping as a cost. (You can't pay a tap cost if the permanent is already tapped)
There really isn't a YGO equivalent.
Edit: Yep, exiled and banished are exactly the same thing, but YGO uses the exile/banished zone way more than MTG.
Tap abilities basically work like a soft once-per-turn effects, with additional copies of the same card (or the same card if it left the battlefield and later returned) still getting their own activations. The tapping indicates the effect has been used, and untapping (whether naturally at the start of your turn, or due to some effect) means you can activate it again. That aside, the best translation into Yugioh would be a restriction along the lines of "you can only activate one of these effects each turn, and only once that turn", since most creatures with multiple tap abilities are only going to be able to be tapped once in a given turn cycle.
The one other notable part is that being tapped means that creatures can't attack (or block). So if you think back to some early BLS/Chaos Sorcerer type monster designs, which gave up their attack to activate a once-per-turn effect, that's maybe a closer comparison in terms of capturing the same gameplay dynamics.
A card that has been tapped cannot attack, block, or use tap abilities until it is untapped (which happens automatically at the beginning of your turn). Attacking, blocking, or using certain abilities can cause a card to be tapped.
Lier is also legal in standard, just saying.
Ah yes, bad man's veto
Whoa Veil seems like too niche of a card to get a ban
It’s presence just made some decks or disruption options much less playable. Therefore, veil’s banning increased the variety of decks being played in the format, which is the point of banning cards.
That'll happen when blue players front enough cash for Wizards to listen.
@@cream3148 I get it. It’s just weird to see a color hoser be that powerful.
@@TRex-fu7bt Even situational cards can be too good sometimes.
Putting "Draw a card" onto any cheap spell makes it no longer niche
Hold up.
EMRAKUL DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST!?
Ok, yes, Aeons Torn is extremely expensive, and usually cheated out, but the rules for the list don't specify that the card in question has to actually be cast - just that counterspelling it wouldn't work.
Very rarely is she cast to begin with. Even if you don't cast her, once you trigger annihilator 6 once you've already won
Llan -o- War
you make great videos but ur pronounciation of names among characters or groups is often very off
Niv-Mizzet? The way you say it is weird!
Any card can be non-counterable if you can outcounter the opponent.
Top 10 Pay Half Your Life Cards in MTG
How many cards ask for that, let alone good ones?
didn't mention big pink space squid smh
Am I the only one who says "leer" instead of "liar"?
No lol the person who does these videos is the only one who says it that way.
Mispronunciation is kind of a staple on these channels, unfortunately, just like all the typos in the text on the videos. It's just something you get used to over time.
The way you pronounce Mizzet and Izzet kills me a little every time. izzet is pronunced like issit same with Mizzet Missit
lier being pronounced as liar instead of leer makes me hurt
Obliteration
Why does this guy think 5 mana is a lot, does he only play red aggro???
When will this guy start pronouncing craterhoof behemoth correctly
I can’t get over you pronouncing Lier as Liar
Erm, Niv-Mizzet is almost wrong pronounced ten times in this video. You could at least have checked how to pronounce it. It rhymes with Dutch: "Hoe is 't?" (= "How are you?") or "How is it?"
I also don't think Lier is pronounced like liar, since Innistrad. It's more likely pronounced as leer. And Innistrad is, well think East-European. So Eeneestrahd. The teeny squad from Innistrad.
9:11 And this one? You had thirty years to get it right. Emphasis is on Llan, so it's LAHNowar. Sheperd also isn't the basis of Legacy Elves: the deck is much older than that card. I'd say Craterhoof Behemoth still is the basis of Legacy Elves - which you find with Natural Order or Green Sun's Zenith which are protected under Sheperd. Glimpse is how you find those.
I feel like you're mispronouncing Niv Mizzet on purpose. I refuse to believe that a Magic content creator has never heard the correct pronunciation
"Liar, Disciple of the Drowned" sounds an awful lot like Lier, Disciple of the Drowned. Sounds pretty sus to just reprint a card from such a recent set with only one letter changed in the name. Come on, WOTC, you can do better.
I swear you're trying to give me a seizure. Izzet is pronounced Is It.
So Lier, a card THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE COUNTERED, is on a list of "Top 10 Cards That “Can’t be Countered” in MTG"
Like half this list is cards that, either CAN be countered, or are lands that cannot be "countered" anyway.
Maybe you should have changed the title of the video.
I like how you needed like 5 separate comments to completely miss the intro saying "Cards that make other cards uncounterable" would also be on this list.
@@superbaas8822 Why is the title so absolute?
@@dyne313 Because, unfortunately, that's how youtube algorithms work. Shorter titles get clicks, and the content creator actually depends on this for a living.
Rest assured, it's not worth getting twisted over, and just enjoy the content.