MSFS: Autopilot basics in the Cessna 172 (Garmin 530/430) - Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Learn the basics of using the Cessna 172 Skyhawk's autopilot in Microsoft Flight Simulator. This covers the 172S that's equipped with the Garmin 530/430 GPS.
=== Chapters ===
0:00 Introduction
0:39 Engaging Autopilot, Default Modes
2:45 Heading Mode (HDG)
5:20 Brief overview of GPS Mode
7:02 ALT (Altitude Hold) Mode
8:26 VS (Vertical Speed) Mode
=== Related ===
Flight Planning with the GNS 530: • MSFS: GPS Flight Plans...
G1000 version of the tutorial: • MSFS: Autopilot basics...
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I am not a flight instructor and this video is not to be used as a resource for real-world flight training. It's only intended as a tutorial for casual use in flight simulators such as Microsoft Flight Simulator.
MSFS version 1.9.3.0.
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Thank you so much Kip.Although I have been Flight Simming for 20 years, it's been in the big passenger jets from PMDG and others . However, because my family gave me an 80th Birthday Present of a flying lesson in a Cessna172, I thought I would look for a good "instruments" tutorial. After much searching, I have been lucky enough to find this excellent tutorial, also the "GNS 530/430 ILS Approach". Both very clearly explained, and not like others I have seen ,where it is assumed that the students will have previous knowledge. My sincere thanks. Andy.
Thank you Kip. I've watched several of your tutorials on the Cessna 172. You explain concepts clearly, and I have gotten a great deal out of each of your tutorials. Great Job!!
Thank you for your tutorials - they are really clear and concise.
This was great. Exactly what I needed. Thank you Kip! Can’t wait to watch the video on navigation mode next.
How can people dislike the knowledge this man is giving us I swear there are haters no matter what.
Because he made many mistakes, when described AP
@@Foxtrot2Flike what?
Thanks Kip for this educational tutorial. I think it's very good that you focus on one topic. Your explanations are good to understand even for me as a beginner. I look forward to your other tutorials. Greetings from Germany.
love how detailed your videos descriptions in regard to pilot habits for setting auto-pilot and other functions to ensure accuracy. thank you so much for these excellent videos. Excellent videos compared to other similar videos from other authors.
Best video I have found on the auto pilot settings. Thanks so much Kip, I really appreciate it.
Thanks Kip I'm new to the Garmin GNS 430 and 530 Excellent video, very helpful.
Excellent tutorial. Clear, easy to follow and very informative.
Best tutorial I've found on understanding basic auto pilot .. many thanks!
Damn, how don't you have more subscribers??
This was a very well structured tutorial, keep up the good work!
Totally top notch! Really enjoyed this video and found it immensely useful
Excellent video on the autopilot basics. Clearly explained, no fluff, and you even got into some of the nuances of the Flight Sim controls. I am looking forward to the Cessna 172/Garmin 530/430 GPS autopilot tutorial. Thank you!
@@KipOnTheGround Yes, GPS navigation, flight plans, waypoints and how to activate and edit them. Some of us still like to fly the C172 with steam gauges and the Garmin 530/430, so that would be a very helpful video. Thank you very much!
Second msfs youtuber ive found with less than 100 subs. And its been awesome
Thanks, as others have said, clear and concise.
Thank you, this was a very helpful tutorial for me!
Really clear and precise explanation .. thanks!
Thank you for the amazing tutorial
Excellent tutorial. Many thanks.
Look forward to seeing your video on flight planning using the 530/430. Enjoyed this AP introduction very much.
@@KipOnTheGround Excellent! That's my breakfast viewing sorted :-)
I've added links to both videos in a Facebook group I run - FS2020 Resources facebook.com/groups/fs2020resources
you are the best in all tutorial I have seen thank you
Great tutorial, Thanks!
Clear and to the point, nice one. +1 Sub.
Well done and most informative for rookies like me. Thanks.
Good info, thank you.
And all the time I was thinking my auto pilot was not functioning correctly. Should have watched your tutorial(s) earlier! Many thanks.
very helpful - the VS was confusing me- but simple once you get it
Excellent tutorial
This was so helpful thanks. I only knew how to use the G1000
Very informative great video
Just found your channel. Great video quality and excellent tutorials! Please keep it up!
Ideas for other videos:
Your sim hardware setup (and costs).
Your sim software settings.
Would be a long video, but walk through from beginning to end of a IFR flight, navigation planning, gps settings, flight, etc.
Apps or web sites (free ones) for flight planning and navigation.
Flight and navigation using just the six pack.
Thanks!
Best mfs guide around, straight to the point with all the tech language.
Nice instructions!
Thank You...Big help!
quick question...is there a way to pick any airport in the gps and fly direct to it without a flight plan?
This was a very well done tutorial. Thank you! Would you consider doing a tutorial on the basic operation of the Garmin 530 itself?
Thanks!
GG, I have stopped watching everyone else now, you just do it heaps better GG keep the vids coming!!!
Hi Kip ! I’ve flown too much DC-6 without GPS, so completely forgotten how use AP, so a revisit needed…most embarrassing 😳
Wow, I'm learning so much from you. I'm a newcomer to piloting and love how well you explain things. I'm feeling more than ever confident that I can become a pilot and everything seems to be clearer all around. I know I need to be patient. But man this stuffs exciting. Thank you alot. Do you have patreon or other ways people could support your channel?
You're a Blessed man. Good things are yet to come. Happy New Years brother! :) see you.
GERAT !!!
Hello from the future!
I did come from the future!
Hey I have a question, I switch to the heading and I switch my heading dial on the instrument but the aircraft would not change the heading is there a way I can fix that?
Awesome! In the current version, if you click UP or DOWN, instead of the ALT button, it also brings you to VS mode. The benefit of it is that after you click once, don't have to move your mouse again to set up your VS ratio. :) Anyway, I don't know why we still don't have the "click on the instrument to 2D view" feature that X-Plane has. Why would it be crucial? Because tell me, how to dial in that heading in 20 kts wind. Unless you are not a Counter-Strike superstar, you just can't. Because the aircraft is twitching all around. And don't get me started on the active pause, please. :) :D
My ap if you toggle it, nav doesnt light up anymore but still functions
Hey what the device on top of the 530 with OMI markers ? Do you have a vid on that?
It's an audio panel that controls which radio frequencies you're transmitting on or monitoring (COM and NAV radios). The "O M I" lights are related to the Outer, Middle, and Inner markers/beacons associated with an ILS approach. The lights will illuminate and a tone will be heard when passing over these specific points during the approach. Hope that helps :-)
Could you do a more detailed video? You didn’t explain the “APR” , “REV”, “ARM”, and “BARO”.
Honestly I like the old steam gauges more than the glass.
How do you get rid of the control column?
I have FSX2020 but all Cessna 172s have Garmin glass cockpit. How do i get the steam gauges instead ?
The 172 in this video is included with the Deluxe bundle for MSFS. You can buy it in the Marketplace. It comes with 5 planes: Baron G58, C152 Aerobat, C172 Skyhawk (steam gauges + Garmin 530+430), DV20, DA40 TDI (Garmin 430).
You could also consider the Deluxe+Premium bundle, which is both the Deluxe and Premium bundles together. Each of those 2 bundles have 5 additional planes.
What does the Arm button do?
How turn off AP ?
How did you installed gn530 in your Cessna 172? I installed the program, but I just only have g1000
Deluxe edition 172 has the 530/430
Why do you have both Garmin 530 and Garmin 430 installed in the plane, is it a safety backup thing?
That's one of the benefits, yes! But you also get an additional COM radio, NAV radio, and can have 2 different screens going at the same time (for example, the 530 could show your map and the 430 could show the flight plan screen).
One realistic use for the 2 comm radios is that you'd keep your ATC frequencies on COM1, and use COM2 to listen to weather/runway information on an ATIS frequency without needing to leave the ATC frequency (leaving the ATC frequency would actually require you to get permission from the controller so they know you'd be off the radio temporarily to check ATIS).
And a use for 2 NAV radios would be the ability to track 2 different VORs at the same time, like when changing from one VOR to another, or monitoring your radials relative to 2 different VORs to determine your location.
I wish the excellent AirfoilLbs C172 for Xplane would come to MSFS.
Just watching this in a real PA28 over Germany to activate NAV Mode of the Autopilot… thanks 😅
How do you get the that cessna with the garmin 530/430? All i have is the G-1000.
It’s part of the deluxe bundle
Oh ok
This is probably a really stupid question. But where are you finding the steam gauge version. I'm only finding a g1000 c172 in my msfs
@@KipOnTheGround Ah right on, thanks.
I realize you did this some time ago but wondering if you could give a quick explanation of the ARM button? I thought it had something to do with the altitude setting. Or, direct me to another video that covers it. Thanks sir!
I looked up the manual for the KAP 140, which is the real autopilot this is based on, and it says ARM is for toggling altitude capture mode (see page 85). So if it's disabled then I suppose it wouldn't capture the selected altitude and would instead just pass by it when climbing or descending using a vertical mode. I enabled tooltips temporarily and pointing at it says it's for toggling VS mode (must be a mistake), but that doesn't appear to be its function in MSFS or the intended real-world function either.
Hope that helps! Here's the manual I found:
www.bendixking.com/content/dam/bendixking/en/documents/document-lists/downloads-and-manuals/006-18034-0000-KAP-140-Pilots-Guide.pdf
yeah it was driving me nuts because im prepping for ifr checkride and in real life i forget to press that button all the time. i want to make sure i do it in both real life and sim (if they ever patch that)
Hey, I only seem to have the G1000 version. Where can I find the regular version. It’s not in the marketplace
@@KipOnTheGround Thanks for the reply I have the deluxe premium version (highest teir- whatever they call it)
@@KipOnTheGround maybe all content isnt downloaded?
@@KipOnTheGround yup all i had to do is go to content manager and there it was... thanks for your help and videos..
For some reason my c172 wants to pull a top gun and goes stright vertical in mine
When auto pilot is engaged
What's that instrument to the right of the tachometer used for?
It's called an ADF (Automatic Direction Finder), and is a radio-based navigation instrument. When you tune into an NDB (Non-Directional Beacon) station that's in range, it will show you the direction the station is in. I actually haven't used one myself yet!
@@KipOnTheGround Please tell us how to use it. I'd assume it's similar to VOR.
But why do you input the height if it won't change? You need to use vs, but when arriving correct altitude couldn't you just set vs to 0?
Entering the target/selected altitude will automatically level the plane off when reaching that altitude, so we don't need to manually put the plane into altitude hold (ALT) mode when reaching our target altitude. It does it for us.
Using VS at a setting of 0 FPM is different than ALT hold because it prevents the autopilot from climbing or descending the plane at all. While flying, the plane will change altitude when passing through air and because of wind. Say the plane is pushed 50 feet higher, VS set to 0 will not descend 50 feet to compensate, but ALT hold will.
@@KipOnTheGround Thank you!
How do I change my instrument panel from G1000 to 530 and 430. I want to practice on those
Unfortunately you can't just swap the avionics, but actually need a separate version of the plane that has those specific avionics. The 172 in this video is in the MSFS Deluxe upgrade (or you could get both Deluxe+Premium, each come with 5 additional planes). It's a steam-gauge 172 with the 530/430 installed instead of the G1000.
Another option is to get a third party / Marketplace plane that has a 530 and/or 430 in it, like the JustFlight Piper Warrior II that recently came out.
@@KipOnTheGround ok thank you I appreciate it!! And I really enjoy your videos
I have FS 2020 standard version and I can not find Cessna 172 with Garmin 530/430. There is Cessna with Garmin g1000 only. Could somebody tell me, what is the reason. Is Cessna 172 with Garmin 530/430 maybe in ultimate version only? Best regards!
Hi Zoki, the C172 530/430 version is only in the Deluxe or Deluxe+Premium versions, so unfortunately you'll need to upgrade to get it. Alternatively, there are some third party planes in the Marketplace that have a 430 or 530. I have an in-progress spreadsheet comparing many of the planes and what equipment they have here that you could use to explore some of the marketplace options: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T6B23qOxRPYbG8izFL-vX3E-OE8V-TE5_YsJEzC1tyI/edit?usp=sharing
@@KipOnTheGround Thank you very much. Best regards!
Anyone else having issues engaging autopilot from the latest update? Just beeps then nothing.
How do you do a RNAV (GPS) approach?
Hey Josh. I don't have an RNAV-specific approach video yet, but the ILS video will help get you started because the basic principles of flying the approaches are similar. In both cases, you'll need to look at the approach plate/procedure document to learn about the specific of an approach, and know how to use your avionics to program the approach. An ILS approach happens to be a radio-based (VHF+UHF) approach that provides both lateral (horizontal) guidance AND vertical guidance. There are also radio-based approaches like a LOC (localizer) approach that only provides lateral guidance. RNAV approaches are basically the modern GPS/WAAS-based equivalents, and there are many types of these approaches as well. Some have lateral-only guidance, like a LNAV (lateral navigation) approach, and some have both vertical and lateral guidance with precision like an ILS, which is an LPV (localizer performance with vertical guidance) approach.
If you're interested in trying out an ILS approach first, check out this video first: czcams.com/video/Cx9KFQtfN-c/video.html
@@KipOnTheGround thanks for the timely and informative response. I just get the feeling that RNAV aren’t completely working.
Can you turn off all altitude modes and keep heading/nav mode without turning off AP
Negative :-( When autopilot is active, there is always a lateral and vertical mode enabled (by default, the vertical mode is Pitch Hold). When in pitch hold mode, you can use the UP/DN buttons to control the pitch though (it works this way in the G1000, so I think it does the same with the 530/430's autopilot as well). I'll often use HDG+ALT mode and then use the heading dial to steer the plane as I wish, while the autopilot maintains the altitude for me.
@@KipOnTheGround thanks, but I experienced very violent pitch up after re-engaging AP and I almost stalled. Are there any manuals or instructions for each plane in game or game folder maybe?
Unfortunately not, but I’ve heard of this bug many times… there will be a big patch this Thursday and supposedly autopilot fixed are in it, so hopefully that solves your problem. You could try Reddit or the Microsoft flight sim forums to see if anyone found solutions to that issue though
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how doni acces this aircraft in 2020 i only have g1000 available
It’s part of the deluxe upgrade
@KipOnTheGround ok thank you
The "deluxe" G530/G430 C172 has gotta be the *most* disappointing aircraft for me. Its the one aircraft I bought the top tier Premium Deluxe for (because 6-pack... like 90% of most GA aircraft out there) and its by far the MOST underwhelming and broken. The database doesn't match for shit, the autopilot fucks off half the time, and the Garmin units are so poorly done it's frustrating. Don't even get me started how broken GPS approaches are... Garmin should be disappointed that their brand name is in the sim on the 430/530, and should work with Asobo to fix it.
@@KipOnTheGround Thanks, I have the Community mod, it helps, albeit barely. At least it sort of half-fixed the Direct-To function. I'm working on getting a navigraph, not really sure if I want the charts or not, as I fly mostly in VR and having to keep popping under and look at my screen gets kind of tedious as is(vs sort of ducking under and using my Gov't provided iPad for FAA charts), though I'm looking at in-VR solutions right now that might help solve that. It's just a shame that Asobo put the "basic" 172 in the highest tier package, for it to be as bad as it is.
Also just noticed, the WX seems really wonky right now. Flying in the North-East USA (Philly/Newark/LGA area) and the temp is below 0-C, yet the dewpoint in game isn't being tracked properly, its saying its +10 (physically impossible?) so as soon as you take off you have a massive ice build up... I'm hoping that REX weather fixes this, but I'm not a fan of how it generates/pops in weather right in front of you, though I think I might get over that if it fixes the Dewpoint problem.
To in engage autopilot to you have to be straight and level or will it correct for you?
Is there a really good steam c172 3rd party model available?
@@pgreenx not yet. Waiting on a Dev to come out with a good "full realism" mod.
@@Munky332 thanks. I’m new to this and don’t really know what that means. Will it be in the msfs s sim marketplace one day or do I have to look somewhere else?