Transphobia In Skateboarding
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- There has been a recent controversy in skateboarding over a trans woman winning a women's skateboarding competition. The second-place finisher Taylor Silverman was upset that she didn't win and started the controversy. In this video, I go over how Taylor Silverman is a bad sport.
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If skateboarding is not about biological advantage why are there so many tricks women cannot do? Are they just not trying hard enough?
maybe they are on their .s
Women can do any tricks men can do there are plenty of women who prove this you misogynist.
Transwomen/men should be separated when it comes to sports. It is unfair especially when its a physical sport.
100%. The woke culture has indulged this obviously unrealistic phenomenon.
Male to female trans women competing against women are going to win pretty much everything and crush women's sports, and then your female to male trans men are... going to be at the bottom of the barrel in every men's sport because they can't even close to compete... this is both obvious... and a huge problem... which trans people are willing to completely ignore for the sake of "inclusion". Another imaginary word that people need to let go of.
Ok cool fantastic idea but then who would they play against trans people make up less then 1% of the population.
@@pappythe1st I don’t know. All I know the way it is now, it’s in a unfair climate for the rest of the competitors.
@@pappythe1st Becoming trans is going to become much more common in the years to come and the more that happens the less political power the left is going to have. We've also got these "self hating whites" who think that they're born, pure evil and refuse to have children too. So if no one's having kids on the left side of the political spectrum then in about thirty or so years there just isn't going to be a Democratic Left. They'll be weakened into irrelevance and eventually just not exist.
this comment section makes me so depressed. i hate being a trans woman bro
Keep your head up brother
I've never seen a pro female skateboarder on the same level as a pro male skateboarder. I would have been one a professional skateboarder back in my day if I was a woman. It's not fair to biological females.
Yeah it’s pretty obvious
Then you don't watch female skaters, many are on the same level as many of the male pros. Skateboarding is a gender neutral sport from the begining seeing men and women as equals and they competed against each other all the time, and women skaters out skated men skaters in competitions. It wasn't till recently that they even split it up based off gender and a lot of old time skaters think they fucked it up by doing that because they did, because the prize money is smaller and it doesn't do anything other than serve sexism and still enable horrible people to say women are less than men like yourself. Sexism is not biology get your facts straight.
I think the crazy part is that this was a redbull sponsor competition. The skaters were bad.
A 30 year old man would be a better skater than a 13 year old girl it’s not transphobic to want women to face women that’s why trans women were banned from swimming
I didn't once talk about a 13 year old in the video it was about Taylor Silverman
You have no high ground to talk for biological females/woman, period!
I don't think we are the homophobic, nor the transphobic, you have always been very well respected and welcomed, but you need to understand that each of us has got their boundaries and physical limitations, which must be respected. that's why we are not homophobic/ transphobic, but you yourself are the sole bully and womanphobic
I think the term you are looking for would be misogynistic not womanphobic also preventing trans people from competting in sports is transphobic because its an active act of discrimination.
@@pappythe1st They should have their own category, NOT be competing against WOMEN, THAT´S JUST RIDICULOUS!!! Saying thats it´s homophobic to say that Trans-Women shouldn´t be competing against bilogical women and girls is also simply just ridiculous...!
@@pappythe1st I had to make the terminology up , womanphobic instead of misogynistic, because misogynistic is more commonly used to describe men who have abusive and toxic behaviour against female victims, and misandrist is other way around when we find women who have abusive and toxic behaviour against males , but in this certain scenario hence transgender people do not identify among the male category then using the terminology misogyny was not really the right word to say, so I had to invent a new "phobic" term, that is very well used these days and trendy among certain people who like playing the victim sometimes.
I am not here with the intention of offending you, you are a person, who may have their feelings, emotions, and sensitivity, and I don't like when people attacks you on purpose trying to hurt your feelings. without being argumentative you need to bear in mind that despite you wish and like to identify in a woman, unfortunately nature has created you as a male, and so being such your body has got many more physical advantages that female bodies don't have.
it's all about physicality not about your own sexual orientation and gender identity, I am sorry but you shall still compete in male competitions , not in females competitions, if you really stand up for justice and equality in sports and society.
@@pappythe1st So what about trans people/athletes, such as Caitlyn Jenner, who speak out against it?
@@pappythe1st there's no biological advantage in skateboarding, like you said, so Trans female skaters can compete in the male division and still be competitive.
You can tell u really didn’t know who those other trans skaters were… like u reading it from ur computer!!! I would be able to tell u were. A Man Oh 😮I meant Trans … bc woman don’t have ADAM’S 🍎!
I look at my screen cause that's where I keep my notes for the video also both men and women can develop Adams apples but people that go through male puberty tend to have more prominent one
Look no need to be an asshole, this CZcamsr still looks very young and is not knowledgeable on the real world yet. I've seen the way they use "transphobic" and it makes no sense at all, but at least they are engaging with comments.
“I’m going to mention some of my favorite trans skaters”... that I can’t remember the names of so I put them in a que card. 😂
I was pulling up there IGs well my mind was on the thought to i could put there clips in the video
I said the same thing …. I just did not read ur comments before I wrote mine… They always make excuses..!!! TOTALLY AGREE
@@pappythe1st do you have onlyfans?
LMAOOOOOOO
Trans females in this case do have a biological advantage as men's have narrower hips and and a higher center of gravity, this aids biological males as lots of tricks are based on these factors.
Males have more fast twitch muscle fibers, main source is prenatal testosterone. That's an advantage for speed and muscle movement. Wider hips means wider quadricep angle which means more prone to injuries from landing so some tricks are not possible due to risk of injury. Lowe center of gravity creates clearance issues. Males with a higher center of gravity can pull knees higher so if both a male and a female have a 12" vertical.the male has a higher clearance as he can pull his knees higher due to a higher center of gravity. Support trans in sports all you want but don't lie to people or yourself.
Trans phobia isn't when people disagree with you. The first place finisher has male levels of testosterone. Not transphobic to point that out or any of the differences that I pointed out. Plus broad shoulders, that also is an advantage that doesn't go away when one lowers their testosterone. Not a good video, I mean basic facts about biology ignored.
@K Spring yh they have an advantage fir mostly everything and most trans woman know that
@@PebblesOTB Correct, there are actually a lot of trans people that actually believe it’s unfair to compete. While being delusional, it’s quite not that popular anyway.
some women have have narrower hips, and a higher center of gravity. should they be disqualified? to me it comes down to hormones and how long they've been with them. trans woman often fall within the range of traits as cis women. it's rare to find a man with skeletal traits that are beyond the range of a biological woman. this is why in forensics they cant definitively identify the sex of a skeleton without corroborating evidence. if a trans woman never went through male puberty, they will be 100% be within the range of cis woman. i dont see any of you adding an exception for that... for that reason i tend to think you are indeed transphobic, and/or uneducated on the issue.
also, look around you at the skatepark, every man is a different shape, it's never a level playing field when there's a natural variation. the athletes that set the most long standing records basicly always had some kind of advantage over other athletes. Shaq o'neal for example was massive, people his size are more rare than trans people. Audi Crooks is top ranked woman player in Iowa, she's also one of the largest women in the sport, most trans women are smaller and weaker than her yet she can play and they can not? explain that to me.
A transphobe in a very racist part of michigan I know that because I am from michigan and I have seen them discriminating against black people on that side of the state to small children saying racist things in Kalamazoo at a mcdonalds when I was a kid visiting there to a kid that was black and dressed in a cubscout uniform there for the same reason I was there and then getting harrassed by other people there. I spoke out against the racists at the age of 12 and saw it again later that weekend over and over again. That side of the state is very racist, very sexist, and skateboarding comps most that I know of didn't care about what gender people were they just allowed skaters to come in and compete and women commonly won against men. Most the comps were gender neutral, and most of the female pros I know skated against men pros and didn't care if they won or lost and yes they did win and yes they did lose too.
On a side note the Olympics has been very transphobic in skateboarding, I find it dumb that they divided by gender to begin with. Leo Baker dropped out the Olympics. I suspect it is because the transphobia.
29 Adult man vs 13 year old Child Seems Fair Habibi 😃👍
what are you talking about you clearly didn't watch the video Taylor Silverman the woman who got second and was complaining is 28
@@pappythe1st hes talking about the ricci tres situation dumbass, you know the ex navy father of 3 MAN who admits on video he "is not a woman and will never be" but still compete with girls as young as 10 and 13, with his testosterone so high he was rejected from the olympics?
@@pappythe1st it's still an adult male vs a female child. Theres a reason all athletes start dominating the sport when they switch over.
You didnt even watch my video where I talked about Taylor Silverman a 28 year old women upset about how she lost to trans women not a 13 year old being beaten by a trans women.
@@pappythe1st that's because a trans woman has almost every physical advantage if not every over a woman. Why does the physical differences have to be explained everytime? Also the child is 13 what all are you expecting the child to do?
Trans rights are human rights
This sounds heterophobic
Shouldn´t the title be "Trans-Women CHEATING in skateboarding"??? This is ridiculous!!!
what about it is cheating she followed the rules that redbull had.
@@pappythe1st No, it was a WOMENS competition, if you were born with male genitalia, and just a few years ago you were a biker dude with 3 kids and a wife, then how the hell can you compete against women and girls, that´s cheating...! Men have a physical advantage over women in sports, he/she would never win any medals in Mens/Male categories, hence why no one has heard of her/him untill now... It also shows a total lack of morals and respect for REAL biological WOMEN/GIRLS...
@@pappythe1st Nah. She’s a biological man.
He's a guy in a crop top and make up what about him makes a female
Nobody is on your side.
ok thats still not going to stop me for stand up for what i think is right
@@pappythe1st Please don’t stop. We need good material to cite.
@@pappythe1st Aye, I'll fight with you here. Nice to see that at least someone here knows what's going on.
You’re so wrong.
wrong about what pls explain what you think is wrong in this video
@@pappythe1st Everything is wrong with your video. Real women shouldn’t have to compete with trans women that are biological men.
when you start taking hormones your athletic ability drops to the range of cis women. there are plenty of trans women in women's sports and they don't dominate. Taylor Silverman the woman who got second beat the trans women before none of the other competitors had an issue competing with a trans woman. also it is a redbull comp and all the competitors where ams not pros.
@@pappythe1st Sadly, you’re wrong about 99% of trans women on hormone therapy being equal to “cis” women physically. Bone structure, density, muscle mass, and joint strength does not change after hormone therapy. I’m not sure how much it really affects skateboarding, but less than 1% of trans women are really equivalent to a biological woman physically.
@@pappythe1st this is patently false, I cant believe you people spout such nonesense, hormones doesn't change the size and density of your bones, doesnt change the wideness and placement of your pelvis, doesnt heighten your center of gravity etc. This is such a pathethic action to celebrate mediocre men insecurities at the cost of women opportunities, shame on you. The fact that its an am competition changes absolutely nothing
Why should all of society be expected to entertain the insane fantasies of a handful of nutjobs who want to pretend to be something they aren't?
Trans rights are human rights
Me siento confundida ahora, por un lado yo siempre creí q el skate era un "deporte" universal, debido a q en su mayoría es más técnica y trucos q otra cosa, cuando me metí a este mundo del skate fue mi hermano quien me enseño todo lo q se tiene q saber, si bien mis ídolos son masculinos de alguna forma nunca vi q mi género sea un obstáculo para q pueda llegar a ser como ellos, hasta llegue a ganarle a mi hermano en una competencia callejera, si bien no creo participar de forma deportiva en una competencia de skate, viendo los comentarios siento una especie de bajoneo no se xq jajaj, por un lado se q tienen razón pero eso no evita q me sienta mal de q estoy condenada a ser "debil" por mi genero, y es mas confuso xq ni siquiera es un deporte de fuerza o resistencia física sino algo en lo q me divierto y amo hacer, los únicos obstáculos q vi al hacer skate fueron las caídas, no el competir con hombres.
Pero bueno esa es mi opinión, aunque para mi el skate mas q deporte es un estilo de vida y pasión q preferiría mil veces practicarlo donde empecé o sea en las calles, no obstante también respeto q en esta nueva generación se quiera incluir como deporte y q también se respeten sus reglas, pues debe haber alguna razón para q tenga sus normas :)
Men are physically better in alot of ways i follow this girl who does alot of workout body movements and she just beat her 3x5 pr of 2 plates on the bench she has more years than me working out and i only have 1 year of training. 135 on the bench is my warm up
depends, on what sports are we talking about. most sports that we watch/play are centered around the male body and its athletic abilities. also skateboarding is not about strange its about trick selection and execution there are plenty of women that are just as good as the men.
@@pappythe1st There is not a single women skateboarder that is as skilled as the top male competitors/pro's. If you think that you either don't know too much about skateboarding or you're fooling yourself. I'm very much about inclusivity and also about respresenting trans people in skateboarding, by turning more trans people pro or supporting them through whatever. But when it comes to competition there is just clearly something problematic in my opinion. There is a reason why women and mens competition is separated, and it's in the interest of women to keep that seperation there as long as they don't perform at the same skill level as men. I do think trans women competing in womens sport have an unfair advantage and while it not being their intention undermines biological womens chance at winning. I don't have a solution as I completely understand trans women not wanting to compete in mens competition, but just putting your blinders on is gonna hurt biological women in the long run.
@TP B3333 You nailed it. Including transpeople in their chosen gender category is a form of respect and acknowledgment. I don't know what it's like to not identify as my born, given sex and the gender that corresponds to it. I can only imagine what it's like to feel out of sorts in one's body. I fully support that expression. Let people be as they choose to be. That's beautiful.
With that being said, I can't deny the reality that is happening when transwomen enter women's sports. The advantage is there. It's biological, and we can't ignore that. The solutions people come up with are controversial and berated politically by both sides.
This woman Taylor can't even have a discussion about her feelings or concerns to anyone who is progressive and left leaning, especially most of the media. Cancel culture of ideas, thoughts, and actions that are not deemed liberal is happening. That's why you can not see debates on CNN, CNBC, NBC, etc, with anyone who is right leaning, independent, or questions trans ideology. Liberals used to be "Question everything, debate, they to understand, unite and f*ck the system." Now they are."Accept only open-minded people within our framework of ideas, cancel the rest, and trust that the government will enforce and support us." Crazy how things have changed.
The argument for this is that we must snuff out racism, bigotry, transphobia by any means possible. I wonder, though, if it has been taken too far in that it is now attacking biological women who have gone through centuries of oppression? If title 9 is changed to reflect inclusivity of transwomen at the expense of biological women's thoughts and votes, is that democratic; is that fair; and is that consciousable?
Deep thoughts and questions that go beyond the scope of the discussion, I realize.
As a skateboarder in the past, I noticed an advantage of men almost always. I'm not an expert, but nearly all of my skateboarder friends agree.
@Pappy like who? Don't worry I'll wait...
Still waiting... @Pappy
Play me in skate…
ok are we playing bera rules
I'm sorry for all the transphobia in the comments. I'm trying to get into skateboarding and this video helped me find a lot of other trans skaters to look into, so thanks for making this!
What’s wrong with you ?
Wokeness
what do you mean by this comment pleas elaborate.
I see a funny trans woman with a good editing style. I subscribe. Simple as.
love your cheeks but disagree with what you speak.
why do you disagree
@@pappythe1st I think every major gender (based on demographic) should have their own separate class to compete with. and the minor gender (based on demographic) should be generalised into classic norms based on their birth.
@@ooffactor that would be great but there are not enough trans people for that to even work. trans people make up less then 1% of the population and there are even less in sports. also, there's not really a problem with letting trans people play with the gender they identify with if they have been on hormones for while. there have been plenty of study that show horomnes drastically change athletic ability and bring trans athletes in line with there cis counter parts. the media only covers trans people that win so they can paint the narrative that trans people are dominating in sports. When there are plenty of trans althets the vast majority of them are not dominating however.
@@pappythe1st link them studies 🤔 🤓. also am not sure about this but isn't it a grey area where a person has just started transitioning, is transitioning and has transitioned, I mean who is to say and how to say that a person is a "complete women" (pfft, "complete women" I remember rick and morty) and not a ounce of man is left in?.
most sports regulatory bodies say that in order for trans women to compete is that they be on hormones for 1-2 years. by that time hormones drop to cis ranges which heavily affect athletic ability. there is no such thing as a complete woman because every woman chooses that portray womanhood differently. there are many different types of women and saying someone is a "complete woman" is extremely transphobic and sexist.
Cool video. I'm stating to skate so I didint understand alot of the technical stuff but still cool
goddamn im so sorry you're getting so much hate for this video :(
naw thats most of my videos
@@pappythe1st still, as another trans person who also gets a lot of hate online i hope you find yourself in a more supportive online community
@@tylera5598 hey there hate comments count as engagement so I'm still winning
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I support trans degens in women’s sports because it’s really funny to see women lose, women should not compete in sports anyways.
this mf from 1879, shut up bigot