Answering the HARD Baptism Questions w/ Dr. Jordan B. Cooper & FLAME
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- Answering the HARD Baptism Questions w/ Dr Jordan B. Cooper & FLAME! You definitely want to tap in to this one! Enjoy! #ExtraNosAcademy #DrJordanBCooper
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Why did Paul say he was glad he did not baptize many? What does being "baptized into Moses" mean? Does baptism replace circumcision? If Abraham was justified by faith and not circumcision, how can Lutherans claim baptism saves? Is "Spirit Baptism" superior to water baptism? These and many other complex components concerning baptism are confronted head on by Dr. Jordan Cooper and FLAME in this
episode. Lock in and learn things about baptism you may have never been confronted wit
Dr. Jordan Coopers work and your 3 Lutheran albums have helped me greatly in my search of theology and move towards Lutheranism. It is much appreciated. Your albums have greatly inspired me to articulate theology through my Hip-Hop music.
Wow, that’s definitely encouraging to hear bro! I’ll have to check your music out. 🫡
@@ExtraNosAcademy Blessings!
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I think that it is so much easier for new Christian converts to be Baptists because they remember a time before they were saved and the experience of coming to Faith is important to them. For people like myself, however, who were born and raised Christian we don't have that conversion experience necessarily. I can't remember a time in my life when I didn't believe. Yet, I still need that assurance of my own eternal security. Becoming Lutheran has saved my faith when so many of my Christian friends that I grew up with have turned away from Christ because they got burned out on the pietism of modern-day Evangelical christianity.
I’m baptist, went a year or so to a Pentecostal church, went to private school at a Mennonite church, didn’t go to church for years but then as an adult when to a Calvary chapel. Although I didn’t know the word pietism, I didn’t struggle with some of the things I heard like from ray comfort. I wondered why they out so much emphasis on the works when we should be trusting in what Christ did for us. We aren’t saved by our works so why is there so much emphasis on our works, pointing us back to what we are doing. I get doing works, but shouldn’t we do them because we want to,not just to prove we are saved or out of fear?
🎉can’t wait to watch this one. Dr Cooper wit da knowledge
Big facts! Thanks for tappin' in!
Thank you for this Flame and Dr Coopers. I’m currently talking with a Reformed Baptist who is hung up that I believe Baptism saves and says that I believe in a heresy. This conversation has helped me understand that this is biblical and to recall my baptism. God bless and Merry Christmas!
A comment regard conversion leading up to 21:54 in the video; Salvation is described by St. Paul as a thing done in the past, “we were saved” (Rom 8:24), as a present state, “you have been saved” (Eph 2:5), as a process, “you are being saved” (1Co 15:2), as a future result, “you shall be saved” (Rom 10:9).
Amen! Thanks for posting that Gary. Very helpful.
I really like the two of you!
Thanks a lot! That's encouraging to hear!
Would love a follow up like this on communion eventually
I have a feeling he is going really deep into Baptism, and will only be a matter of time before he does the same with the Body and Blood!
God be Praised!
COOP THERE IT IS
The homie! Thanks for posting!
I hear a lot of David Scaer Confessional Lutheran Dogmatics in this. That book is fire. 🔥🔥🔥
As a former Baptist who changed to Lutheran, I do remember my baptism, because I was 8 years old, so it is comforting to assurance of my salvation. Please explain how it is comforting to those who were baptized as infants and can’t remember it. I’m glad I was baptized after believing, because I would feel sad not to remember it. We have a few photos but that is not the same.
Hello Tammy! Great question. The call to remember our baptism is meant to highlight what Jesus delivered through our baptism. Not necessarily to remember the experience. As you mentioned, in the case of infants, they will not be able to recall by memory. However, they can think back to what Jesus did for them in their baptism. How He cared for and saved them in their most vulnerable state. The majority of Christians that have ever lived and that exist today practice infant baptism. It’s only more prominent to be baptized as adults in Western culture and contemporary Christianity. However, as you mentioned, people may have pics or videos from parents if they want to look back visually. Although it’s not necessary to do so in order to remember what Jesus did for them in baptism. Thanks again for asking. 😊
Agree!
And there were witnesses to your Baptism, church records can give you the confidence that it did happen, even if you don't remember it.
At 45:00 there was a great heartfelt discussion about Christians going through doubt about being saved. Dr Cooper says that baptism helps us then in a way nothing else does because baptism is objective and particular: it happened and it happened to you.
As a Catholic I can and do agree with everything Dr Cooper says here - baptism reminds us of our Christian identity and that we're marked forever by the protection of Christ. It remains a functioning reality, as FLAME put it. I would just wish to add that there is another sacrament which helps us in this moment: confession. And I think it can help us even more than the memory of baptism.
Not only is confession objective and particular, it is _present._ It involves a present act of faith. What I mean is, it is not merely something we exert ourselves to remember. It is not just my own mind encouraging myself with a recollection from the past. (Though I'm all for encouraging ourselves in that way, especially in times of temptation!) It is also not something we have to do alone. Rather, confession takes place _today,_ in the Church as it lives today. It brings us back into good standing not just in God's eyes but also with the whole Body of Christ in the Church.
I would argue that the Sacrament of Reconciliation is the strongest way to address the sins which occur after baptism - perhaps decades after baptism: sins that disrupt our faith life presently - as well as the doubts that might arise about our salvation. No, it is not a rebaptism by any means, but what it does do is newly cleanse away the muck that has covered over the reality of our baptismal regeneration. It heals us from the damage sin has done and brings us renewed confidence in the power of Christ's forgiveness and our life with him. It repairs our damaged relationship with God and sets us right on the path of working out our salvation. In that moment, leaving the booth and doing your penance, you know very concretely that it is _you_ (the you of today) who are forgiven by God in Christ.
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I wrote this next part in reply to another comment before I wrote the above. Sharing it again because it says the same thing but a little differently 🙏
One reason Catholics practice the confession is because of this scenario where the Christian worries about their own salvation (it's unavoidable, as Dr Cooper suggests). Even after we are baptized, we know that when we commit sin (esp mortal sin) we damage our relationship with God. We know we want to _restore_ that relationship. So we need a venue where we can reaffirm our repentance, express contrition for our new sins, and ask God for forgiveness. The sacrament of confession and reconciliation makes this possible. Christ gave the Apostles the authority to forgive sins (Jn 20:23) for this reason: to keep believers in contact with the grace and mercy of God in Christ.
Like all the sacraments in the Church, confession keeps open the channel to God's love in a concrete, embodied, prayerful way. It is a precious way of coming closer to him as his children and allowing his sanctifying grace to enter us more deeply. It also saves us from feeling the shame of our new sin forever (and then spiraling into even more darkness), so that we leave the booth in peace proclaiming the Gospel with purity of heart (and with a fresh shot of confidence in his saving word!). Regular confession helps us keep our inner house clear and clean, so that the Spirit can dwell within us ever more sweetly, more beautifully, more openly in the light of God and Church, more wholly.
In short, confession is there so we never have to be anxious about our being saved! We don't have to put everything on some moment of conversion, on our baptism some time in the past, or on an abstract justification. We don't have to guess! We can regularly take everything that separates us from God _directly_ to one of Christ's representatives on earth and get forgiveness from Christ through him. We can purify ourselves by this and all God's graces and feel him come nearer as he conforms us to the image of his Son, strengthening us by his Spirit to "Go and sin no more"!
I pray everyone experience the beauty of this sacrament!🙏✝️🙏
Learn more: czcams.com/video/pfZkq7BABJM/video.html
Love this man!
Thanks Clay! I appreciate your time and comment. God’s peace.
This is so helpful
Just found this channel today, this is fantastic! Keep it up!
Thanks Christian! I’m glad you found the page! Explore and enjoy! Much more to come!
Dope video bro
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Great convo, not a Lutheran but listen to Jordan’s channel often and Flame’s music since “Our World Redeemed”. I pray you’ll entertain my two questions, they’re genuine as I try to understand Lutheran theology more.
Question 1: Dr. Cooper’s explanation of baptism’s role in the assurance of salvation for the doubting believer had me wondering. If someone were to baptize their whole block, regardless of how he convinced each person to agree to it, would you then say every one of those people will now inherit eternal life, that all of them are saved? Even if no apparent change ever took place in their heart and they go back to being exactly how they were prior to the baptism for the remainder of their lives?
If the answer to this is no, then how can a believer who struggles with assurance look to their baptism as something that puts and end to their doubt?
Question 2: You answered another gentleman’s inquiry about the purpose of sacraments for continual sins… that in Lutheran theology they provide continual salvation because we are saved, are being saved, and will be saved. But then you respond to his hypothetical about what happens if you were to die before partaking of one of those sacraments the next day by affirming the person is still saved. If this is the case then what role do the sacraments hold if the person is saved anyway? Can it really be said that they are a part of their “continual salvation” if they sin the next day/week/year without partaking of them and yet are still saved?
I’m struggling with this entire idea of being “continually saved” and the need for sacraments to play a role in order for this to happen. If Christ’s work on the cross is sufficient and it is truly “finished”, and if my ability to receive forgiveness of sins and his imputed righteousness is directly tied to my faith in Him and the work he accomplished then I don’t understand the need/requirement of taking something in in order to keep being saved. I thought it was done but now I need to worry about being saved every day? What if I miss a day? A week? A year? How long exactly do these sacraments last? You see where I’m going with this I hope. What does losing salvation look like for Lutherans? If Sola Fide is true, that we are justified by faith alone then the only way someone can conceivably lose salvation would be to lose faith that Jesus is the Christ and that he shed his blood on the cross for forgiveness of sins or maybe to simply not believe that he did that for them personally. But I still don’t know how one can be born again and then somehow be unborn. Or receive eternal life and then lose it because then it was never eternal.
Okay that was more than two questions, please forgive me :)
Question 1:
Baptism assures grace to the one who repents and believes. A lifestyle contrary to the life of faith is an outwork working of a rejection of grace and unbelief. So while the baptism is the assurance of grace, they are choosing to nullify it.
Question 2:
Our salvation is contingent upon union with Christ by faith. The sacraments deliver us Christ in his person and work -- even the person who believes before baptism is regenerated by the word (gospel message) being spoken to them. Faith and baptism go together like conception and birth or engagement and marriage -- you're alive if you're conceived but the ordinary pattern of life is to be born. In practice, it serves as an objective locus of salvation and a sign that sustains our spiritual life from then on.
If someone is regenerated to faith, but refuses to be baptized, they cut themselves off from Christ by refusing obedience AND cutting themselves off from a means of grace which permanentizes their status as "born again" and bound to the Holy Spirit -- no different than if someone who is "already saved" refuses to ever read the Bible again (which God's Spirit also promises to work through).
Another point to bring out is that, unlike faith in the verbal gospel, baptism being unrepeatable infuses a character into the soul of the recipient such that even if you fall away, there is a sense in which the Holy Spirit is always at work in you (in this case to restore you to faith), in a way that He may not be for the unbaptized. You may die in that place and end up in Hell, but you're in a less precarious place being baptized than you are if you simply believe without baptism.
Thanks for the great content! Really interesting interview!
Thanks for the kind words. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Time-stamp
38:38 - Paul and baptism in Corinth
39:06 - Beginning of Cooper’s response
40:04, 40:32 - the point
40:55 - Moses and baptism
Thanks a billi! 🫡
@@ExtraNosAcademy I took your time-stamp of 38:38 lol :;P
Anyone have the time stamp on the question of why Paul said he was glad that he didn’t baptize in Corinth?
38:38 Thanks for asking!
This is really good!!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 A great teacher will inspire the learner to want to learn more, so very good... I try to be on it (studying)... (Had me read the whole 95 Theses, had no clue what I was reading or what in the world...) Anyway, keep going frfr! This was dope!!!
*edit* When I say what in the world, it wasn't because of Martin Luther's writing but my understanding. I had to check my glasses a few times
Lol! You’re good! Thanks for checking it out.
Yea, Luther had specific concerns in mind pertaining to theological abuses of his day. Many are still relevant. Definitely interesting stuff, though.
I’m glad you enjoyed the vid. 😊
That’s awesome that you are interested in learning. Luther’s “95 Theses” is probably not the best document. I remember looking it up early in my study years ago and having the same reaction. 😂 😂
The official Lutheran Doctrine is the 1580 edition of the “Book of Concord”. There is a reader’s edition available that is published by Concordia Publishing House (CPH). It might be cheapest in Amazon.
If you want a great read that is kind of a summary of Lutheran Doctrine that is very applicable for today I highly suggest the book, “Has American Christianity Failed?” By Pastor Bryan Wolfmueller.
Blessings to you as you study!!!
@@brandonluft8950 Phew!!! I thought I was the only one... 😳😂 But I'm definitely going to get that book... I was trying to wait until I move but I think I need to order it like soon. Thanks a bunch!
@@ExtraNosAcademy Word... I read some of the stuff Luther was dealing with... He was a real OG... I was lit... Bruh publicly burnt the letter the pope wrote him demanding that he recant his statements... Gangsta!
I think where this trips me up as I attempt to understand your position is, when a person is baptized and then falls away. What is your response to these situations, in my mind it would make the work of God through baptism fall short. If the old Adam dies and they are raised to new life in baptism. What do we say happened to these who fall away??
Thx for asking! Just curious, are you from the Calvinistic camp? Only asking because, “falling away” is uniquely the place of anxiety for Calvinist. They are more preoccupied with “falling away” than all other camps, unfortunately. God’s work in baptism is permanent. If a person deviates from the benefits of their baptism, they can always return! Praise God, He is faithful…even when we are not!!! Since baptism is God’s work, His work never fails. If a person leaves Christianity for good and dies unrepentantly, that does not reflect poorly on God’s part but on the part of the sinner. The Bible NEVER declares any weakness on God’s part but ascribes blame to the sinner or Satan. Calvinist have created a false category that a person falling away will mean God failed if He died for all. That’s false. So it is with baptism. It’s false and foreign to the Bible to blame God for sinful rebellion. In closing, a person who was baptized by faith will be saved, if they walk away and return, God will apply the benefits of their baptism because He is faithful on His part. Much more can said. Thx for your interest in the matter. God’s peace.
@@ExtraNosAcademy I am of the reformed Presbyterian/Calvinist camp. I have been watching all of your discussions on the topic.
I’m trying to wrap my head around it but this issue specifically has my mind blocked. I will say that you have given me a greater affection for baptism. Thank you for that!
0:18 Word and Water is out!
1:41 Discussion of pushback to W and W.
4:41 Obedience not the true focus of baptism.
7:28 Baptism as God's work.
11:37 Flame's recommended resources.
12:35 Order of things that happen in conversion and salvation
16:07 God's gifts come in more than one way.
19:50 Household baptism
23:49 Household baptism passages are awkward in our modern western culture. Discussion of Abraham.
30:05 Baptism isn't something totally new in the New Testament.
32:18 Naaman and Noah. Salvation bestowed through water.
34:50 The power is in God's word.
36:07 Spirit baptism
38:30 Paul "didn't come baptizing"
43:21 How is this useful?
47:54 Baptism drowned you
Thx for doing this! 🫡
I was baptized twice. The reason it was twice was because the first time I went to my dads one weekend and he was like “we’re getting baptized” I wasn’t living it then.
We address that here: czcams.com/video/5iUD1tBC4Bk/video.htmlsi=hEZg4RBZWz5sjQSB
But if I'm in continual need of the sacraments for the forgiveness of co tinual sins, what happens if one believes, is baptized, and then dies after commiting a sin? Are we not saved then?
Thanks for watching and asking the question. We all will die as Christians who still sin. We will never be free of sinning until We die or Jesus returns to bring on the New Heavens and the New Earth.
To answer your question, as Christians we are saved, being saved, and will be saved. So when a believer dies they do not have to fear the judgment of their sin. Jesus took that on for them and constantly brought forgiveness to us throughout our lives by His word and Sacraments.
I hope that helps and makes sense.
Catholics practice the sacrament of confession because of this scenario. Even after we are baptized, we know that when we commit sin (esp mortal sin) we damage our relationship with God. We know we want to _restore_ that relationship. So we need a venue where we can reaffirm our repentance, express contrition for our new sins, and ask God for forgiveness. The sacrament of confession and reconciliation make this possible, and Christ gave the Apostles the authority to forgive sins for this reason: to keep believers in contact with the mercy and grace of God.
Like all the sacraments in the Church, confession keeps open the channel to God's love in a concrete, embodied, prayerful way. It is a precious way of coming closer to him as his children and allowing his sanctifying grace to enter us more deeply. It also saves us from feeling the shame of our new sin forever (and then spiraling into even more darkness), so that we leave the booth in peace proclaiming the Gospel with purity of heart (and with a fresh shot of confidence in his saving word!). Regular confession helps us keep our inner house clear and clean, so that the Spirit can dwell within us ever more sweetly, more beautifully, more openly in the light of God and Church, more wholly.
In short, confession is there so we never have to be anxious about our being saved! We don't have to put everything on some moment of conversion, on baptism, or on an abstract justification. We don't have to guess! We can regularly take everything that separates us from God _directly_ to one of Christ's representatives on earth and get forgiveness from Christ through him. We can purify ourselves by this and all God's graces and feel him come nearer as he conforms us to the image of his Son! I pray everyone experience the beauty of this sacrament!
@@ExtraNosAcademy thank you for answering. I am however still confused as to what that mean. How can I become more of something I already am? Either I'm damned or I'm not since I can't be a little damned. The same I feel goes the other way, either I'm justified and righteous or I'm not. Do you mean that we maintain salvation through sacraments? I really have a hard time understanding, so I'm sorry if not making to much sense
@@marianweigh6411 Lutherans have this same means of grace for the same purpose, it's either called the third sacrament or simply a return to the grace of Baptism.
The shame is that too many forget and forgo this wonderful gift of God. To have God's promises and grace personally and explicitly applied to you again is a wonderful and freeing thing!
And yet to the OP we don't need to receive the Absolution before death to ensure salvation, there we point to the Lord's mercy and rely on His promises rather than rely on our words or actions (especially for the mentally ill)
@@j.g.4942 if I’m not mistaken I think Luther referred to absolution as the second plank of baptism. By Gods grace I’m thankful my Lutheran parish does confession every Sunday corporately. We also do private confession. It’s a wonderful thing living in our baptismal promise.
Bookmark 25:36
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit)
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church?
The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again)
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant
(CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order.
(ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation.
(GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things.
(KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
(KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357
(NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
(NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established.
(YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them .
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New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Watch the CZcams videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
So do Lutherans believe you lose your salvation if you didn’t ask forgiveness on a certain day? If someone is struggling in sin do they keep losing their salvation? This is a genuine question.
Thx for asking. No, Lutherans nor scripture teach such a thing. Quite the opposite. We don’t minimize our sin but freely confess it and receive God’s forgiveness over and over. Delivered by His word and sacrament. Enjoy my podcast and this episode: czcams.com/video/z5xBv8zhQ5I/video.htmlsi=vCPM-ryWymbR_Prl
@@ExtraNosAcademy thanks for your response. I’ll check it out.
When will you do a song based on what all the early Christians, Church father's and church doctors believed and practiced, the Eucharist. All the church fathers you talk about and put in your songs practiced and preached for all Christians to partake in the Eucharist. And if they didn't they weren't following Christianity properly. You can't accept one without the other right??
Thanks for posting! Ha, I released a project exactly on the Eucharist (titled, “Christ For You”) right before “Word And Water” concerning baptism, lol. Perhaps, you just tapped in. Here ya go: smarturl.it/ChristForYou
Enjoy!
I just tapped in with "Word and Water".
So much content to be had, I haven't gone backward yet.
talk-talk-talk you make it confusing -- believe then baptism - after baptism you are a child of God.
Thx for posting!
Firstly, take a deep breath. You appear to be worked up.
Secondly, Matthew 28:19-20 says baptism first. It’s not about the chronological order but that salvation and baptism are tied together.
“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Lastly, did you even watch the whole thing for understanding of the ancient Christian way of processing baptism?
Is there a specific point where you may have gotten confused or lost?
It’s ok to work through a thing slowly and repeatedly. You don’t have to understand it all at once.
Pray, stay calm, & walk through the discussion carefully. And, with scripture.
Happy Saturday! God’s peace.