Indonesia's New COMPARTMENT SUITES Train: Is it Worth the VERY HIGH Price?
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Hello and welcome back to Indonesia for a special review that so many people have been asking for!
Tonight, we'll be travelling the 800km+ from Surabaya to Jakarta onboard the BRAND NEW Bima Compartment Suites Sleeper Train which has luxury lie flat bed and complimentary food and drinks. However, it's received very mixed reviews since its launch, so let's go and see what all the fuss is about, and check it out together!
Date of Filming: 29 to 30/10/23
Camera: GoPro Hero 12 Black
Operator: KAI (Indonesian Railways)
Departure: Surabaya Gubeng, Indonesia
Arrival: Jakarta Gambir, Indonesia
Cost: 2.05m Indonesian Rupiah (£104, €122, $131)
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00:00 - Intro
01:20 - Arrival at Surabaya Gubeng Station
01:55 - Station Tour
02:30 - Ticket Check & Lounge Tour
03:28 - Route Info
04:00 - Heading to the Platform
04:30 - Train Arrival & Info
05:20 - Boarding & First Impressions
06:00 - Departure from Surabaya & Pricing
06:52 - Food & Drinks Service
07:56 - Suite Tour
11:00 - An Amazing Toilet!
11:35 - A Few Problems...
12:26 - The Next Morning
12:56 - First Light in Jakarta
13:12 - The 'Executive' Coaches
13:36 - Trip Summary!
14:50 - Arrival at Jakarta Gambir Station
15:15 - Outro
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Bro, I think what you said is right, don't break the link that ain't broken. In the past, Indonesia had a compartment train with beds. However, people used them for sex transactions. I understand this is silly but that's how KAI reacts on that finding.
Bloody hell that wifi on the train is faster than my internet at home here in Australia
🤣🤣🤣
That's hardly surprising with Australia 😂
thanks to liberal
Lived in Indonesia from the early 90s to the mid 2000s and I’m astonished by how Indonesia have developed A LOT for the past few decades. Before 2004, they didn’t even have a highway from Bandung to Jakarta so we had to drive around 10hrs to reach the capital but now? Luxury sleeper train, high speed rail and a metro system..just wow
Pls come again.. i believed you will be Veny Happy to see the improvement
From 10 hrs to 30 minutes.... wow so proud for the development we achieved....
Yet somehow I miss the old days when things were much more simple. The Indonesian character I love is very quickly being lost. I'm glad I got to experience Indonesia in the 80's and 90's. It was much more colourful, interesting, challenging and unique. Now it's starting to look like everywhere else in the world. 😢
@@dalecollins-smith3551are you really speaking against technological improvements that benefit Indonesian economy?
@@dalecollins-smith3551Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China are able to modernize, even outpacing the West, without abandoning their cultural identity
The concept of sleeper train was actually existed in Indonesia long time ago. The Bima train was actually the sleeper train first launched in 1967. It was an overnight train with sleeper and couchette facility just like the overnight train in Europe (well, the original Bima train's rolling stock was made in East Germany). Unfortunately, the sleeper train service discontinued in early 90s due to many reasons.
It has been a discussion among Indonesian railfans questioning why apparently KAI insist to reluctant using bed for sleeper train. It started when KAI launched Luxury class, an airplane business class-like accommodation without compartment. The price is expensive for the average Indonesian wages yet it doesn't give the comfort of real sleeper train. There are many speculations about why KAI never interest to use bed for sleeper train. One of the most believed is that the regulation from Minister of Transportation prohibiting the use of lie-flat bed for the land transportation, although it's actually only referred to the bus only. Another speculation is the cost of the operation as sleeper train have less capacity compared to seat train, and KAI always looking for more capacity to gaining more profit. This also has been debated as Thailand also have sleeper train with more capacity, more comfort and cheaper ticket price. Personally, I wish KAI are looking for inspiration into Thailand or Japan who have sleeper train that run on the small gauge railway and still managed to get more capacity, more comfort, and cheaper ticket price.
Anyway, congrats for your experience and thanks for the video. Great job as expected.
Yeah, they need some good honest couchette coaches 🤗
@@NonstopEurotripyeah sometimes our ministry give some nonsense reasons to ban something like not while ago Kominfo try to ban many popular websites like Reddit they say the web has a lot porn so they block it
Their reasoning for removing the proper sleeper trains back in 1992 was because of the high amount of sexual misconduct occurring inside the coaches, disturbing the views of the little children who also got onboard of the train.
Which is ridiculous, but understandable since how wild the life in 90s Indonesia was.
But I couldn't grasp my what on why they're so reluctant to add them back now.
@@dava_arvarabi I think if they want to prevent such thing happen again they can use mini cabin just like in capsule hotel. Basically just like current Compartment class but it's double stacked so the capacity is multiplied twice and the ticket price can be cheaper, yet passenger still get privacy.
I hope it gets resurrected once Sumatra got their lines connected. And I hope every major island bigger than Java got one, that include Sumatra, Borneo (could have Borneo loop line with Brunei-Malaysia-Indonesia linked up), Sulawesi, and Papua (could have north line from sorong to jayapura, and south line from sorong to merauke). With longer route than Java, they would need sleeper train.
KAI must watch this video
I'll be sure to link them 😆
@@NonstopEurotrip I think you made little mistake in the description about footage date, in there written 30/10/21.
@@NonstopEurotripthere is another super luxury indonesian train that is unlisted, it is called Kereta Wisata, and cost you upwards from $1500, you have to contact the KAI special child company which manages it to book one
Tentunya bakal ditonton 😅
Maybe the company is to busy to watch the video
13:57 The reason KAI uses seats instead of real beds is because there is a regulation in Indonesia that prohibits travelling in a 180-degree reclining position for vehicles/land transport (For safety reasons). Even the sleeper buses that existed before this train also use seats.
But these do recline to 180 degrees
Which regulation? Is it Permenhub, UU, or PP? I'd like to read more on that
@@NonstopEurotrip Probably 179 degrees, lol.
The constant horn is actually for safety protocol here in Indonesia it is called Semboyan 1 and Semboyan 35. It definitely takes years to settle this issue if they want since the protocol usually is very rigid and difficult to change.
Semboyan 1 (one long horn inside train station) must be applied when the train is departing as reply from station master whistle and the train machinists have to depart, clear the train from the platform and they have clearance to pass to the next halt.
While Semboyan 35 (one long horn outside train station) must be applied before the train passing to level crossing (you can found the sign on the side of the rail with S35 marking) which compare it to Europe, we have a lot of it. Although this thing is getting better especially in urban area or certain region who have better fiscal space to build bridge and underpass.
I never said they shouldn't blow the horn...
No worries I understood since this might be annoying for foreigner.
I just try to explain it, why this sort of things happen✌️
@@fendysuryantoBut your comment suggested that he asked the horn to stop, while what he said is giving suggestion to move the compartment suite car at the rear consist so it will be more comfortable for those passengers who paid 2 million for an 8 hours train ride.
@@NonstopEurotripBut you said it clearly in 11:55 that it's a problem, SMH 😑
@@rhs_0938 the problem is the compartment suites coach is right next to the horn. And as not blowing the horn isn't possible, I suggested the move the coach to the rear of the train, in both directions
15:10 that train on the opposite platfom is the "Argo Semeru", the only another train services that overing compartment suites class. with the same route as Bima but with day time journey.
Oh btw the Compartment suite coaches it self is made from 2008 built Eksekutif class coaches. Its been modified by KAI's own Manggarai Workshop in Jakarta. KAI first planned to buy a brand new coaches from INKA, (there are even a double decker option...). But its turn to be too expensive..
Oh currently Bima also has "Luxury" restaurant coaches that refurbished with Compartment suite interior vibes.
As shown in the video
I personally wouldn't call this a sleeper train, but rather just "compartment suite train/class". The design and service reminds me about some Japanese luxury limited express trains
Well you sleep in it, so it's a sleeper train.
I would like to be there too because now I'm freezing with a fever at home in the Czech Republic.
Get well soon 🙏🏻
Just a friendly correction: At 0:42, "Don't speak English?" should be translated to "Tidak bisa berbahasa Inggris?". "Jangan" is different from "Don't" in that "Jangan" can only be used for a warning statement.
From the look of that I definitely agree that a bed would be a better solution. Given the space, they could have had a decent seat and a bed that folds down over it
The prototype have that kind of bed/seat.. But they choose this
That's a shame!
I think the ride is not so smooth not because the track quality, but it's because the boogie quality that's been our issus for years. Our last comfy car was K9 air suspension boogie, developed together with Alstom. But due to the high cost maintenance and it's not suitable with mountainous terrain (it's frequently got derailed because of that), K9 was discontinued.
Most of Indonesia carriages are now using K10 boogie, and that's what you felt. Hope INKA can develop more comfy boogie 😅
I agree, yes! Thanks for watching 😀
Ada Indonesia coy
anyway, nice to see you back here :)
the last time the bed method was introduced in 67 - 1990, it had some "social" related problems
Thanks for the info!
@@Crying-Croc interestingly, they want to continue the project by the previous government to build railways across Afghanistan
Please elaborate on what you meant with "social related problems"
@@Selvariabell gambling and uh...the passengers often do the deed
@@muhammadfadhiil5992😁😁😁
12:39 I think its more about the coach than the track itself. all the track was already upgraded to R54
Interesting, I'm surprised!
Banyak yg keriting pastinya
@@NonstopEurotripyup, I can confirm it is most of the time is the coach problem because some coaches have an old bogies that didn't really help too much when on high speed, but other reason is possible knowing at the time you making the video I'm pretty sure is the same time the track were still on the process of upgrading, meaning the track is safe for high speed operation but it doesn't mean it will be comfy. I can tell today is way more comfortable than before, although the bogies problem is still exist, so if you unfortunate enough to get coaches that have bad bogies.
@@NonstopEurotrip The compartment coaches used here wasn't exactly new, it actually used to be just a regular executive-class coach with wide windows built by INKA in 2008.
That's why in the black information bar on the bottom of the coach reads " T1 0 08 xx" which means "1st class sleeper of 2008 generation number X" Old number is "K1 0 08 xx"
@@dava_arvarabi So it's using a 2008 bogie? Or did they upgrade the bogie already?
the price is 5 times than economy seat. 2.5 times than plane ticket for (non busy day without luggage). the train station is located in the heart of the city, yet airport is far away from city needed 2 times transportation. almost unlimited luggage weight limit. dont need to do hassel while check in. good arriving time (morning). got food, can sleep trough the night. VS plane ticket ex: 750.000 + 200 x 2 (city to sub airport + airport to city jakarta). kind of worth it
I have done the same journey on the Compartment train but I did the daytime trip.
The daytime trip was fantastic as there was a lot of amazing scenery.
I enjoy train travel in Java and do it a few times a year but I would never contemplate on overnight train journey in Indonesia as I know I would not be able to sleep.
If I was leaving Surabaya for Jakarta at night, I would take a flight.
Thanks for sharing!
Fun fact: Bima is short for Bi-ru Ma-lam (Biru = Blue, Malam = Night). The first Bima train was painted blue and ran at night, and it was also the pioneer of compartment trains in Indonesia.
That's why the paint of this compartment train carriage is blue.
Bravo to KAI 👏
Lah baru tw, kirain Bima nya si Pandawa CS
Great trip. The train is honking many times because level crossing is everywhere along the journey. Yeah definitely agree, this car should be placed on rear for comfortability, but we should mention the CC206 horn is very loud. Overall nice cabin, nice food and nice seat, and the ticket is absolutely expensive for average local people like me.
Thanks for watching! And yes it was expensive for me too 🤣
I think you would like the Genoa - Casella railway, it uses trains from 1998 but also one from 1928 renovated in 1953, and also one from 1929 which has recently been renovated in its original condition, It's 25 km and takes about 1 hour, obviously narrow gauge of 1000mm
Thanks for the suggestion 😃
love this video ❤️❤️❤️ such a beautiful train
Thank you very much bro 😺
Another amazing videos your videos are the highlight of my week
Happy to hear that! 😊
The friendly voice of train travel, thank you for your great videos!
So nice of you ☺️
if you want to go west you need to take a bus to Bandar Lampung then you will take KA. Rajabasa (economy class train with a price range of Rp. 30,000-50,000) you will find out One thing that is very surprising and is rarely known by foreigners is the super long coal train pulled by an EMD locomotive
Keep in mind that Ka. Rajabasa only leaves in the morning so you have to plan your schedule so that you don't have to wait too long for the train
Thank you mate for this great insight. This summer we gonna travel by this train.
Have fun!
Nice video. Thank you for uploading.
Thank you 👍🏻
Unfortunately Whoosh extension wouldn't make to surabaya in the near future.. it might take 10-15 years. If the gov is really supportive abt this project and throw massive amount of money and just build the whole 700+km of track in a single phase. Then we can travel from Jakarta to Surabaya under 3 hours maybe in 5 years from now.
The government will probably prioritize the new railway network they are building from Nusantara to the rest of Kalimantan.
@@ianhomerpura8937 and school lunch💀 but well whoosh project is not G to G but B to B.. So we'll see
@@kibruazkaenk1510 all in for lunch aid coming soon 2029... we'll just wait, sit, relax, go for gemoy dance. OK GAS OK GAS premium rice skyrocketed🗿🗿🗿
nopw, the new Presiden Prabowo will continue Jokowi HSR to Surabaya, even Gibran said that
@@joMan1060 we don't know.. Do you know the budget for the free school lunch program will be around Rp450T a year, yes Trillion Rupiah a year. And the whole Jakarta-Bandung Whoosh project is only Rp112T. It's difficult.. I love his ideas but not that free school lunch..
The main reason why trains always sound their horns at night is so that if someone is crossing you can hear that the train is about to pass so that person can immediately move away from there.
I'm aware. I never said they shouldn't
Berita bagusnya masinis anda selalu fokus ke stir. Dan bekerja. Mengetahui bahwa kereta bisa berjalan sendiri jika jadi masinis saya akan tinggal main kartu poker.😂😂😂😂
Nice video nice presentation too thanks
The design of the coach is fabulous, and so are the uniforms of the attendants.
Odd to see that the Indonesian language simply copied the Dutch word for 'sink' ('wastafel'). On the other hand, Dutch has plenty of Indonesian loanwords.
I totally agree, but I really wish it had an actual bed lol 😂
Indonesia had a lot of Dutch loanwords too.. Especially due the fact that dutch colonize Indonesia when we are still Dutch East Indies.. Dutch Words Like Wastafel, Kulkas, Kantor, etc. Actually used a lot in Indonesia
11:54 Maybe, a good step would be to move the series of compartment suites to the very back of the series, so as not to be disturbed by the sound of loud train clacks, but if you get off at a station where the platform is not too long, you may have to pass through another carriage. 😅
12:37 Yes, because of the quality of the Indonesian railway track, following the terrain, it will cause severe shaking, different from the Whoosh Track, you can find out from Nagreg Station which has a height of +848 m above sea level, and the lowest is at Surabaya Pasar Tuti Station with a height of +4 m above sea level
As mentioned
0:40 "jangan" does mean "don't" but the meaning is "to stop".
for "not able to" the phrase is "tidak bisa".
Kereta Cepat Indonesia. Mantap!
Thank you for a very interesting video! I personally quite like the idea of a a large chair which can be converted into a bed. It would surely be ideal for a train journey of (say) 12+ hours which involved both day and night travel. It makes much less sense if the journey is 'nighttime only'. As to the fare charged, then, given what you said about the cost of top-class hotels in Indonesia, I anticipate that there will be very few passengers who will fork out a large sum of money for a compartment suite!
That's kind of exactly the point. It's not a bad thing, it just overpriced and had to many niggles
I think the reason why KAI insists on installing this kind of seat instead of proper bed is because they want flexibility for the coaches to be operated both for night and day trips as bima trainsets are also shared by day running argo semeru....bunk bed in seat mode is usually 90° upright seat which is not so comfy for longer journey compared to recliner, meanwhile in day trip passengers don't always want to lay on bed throughout the journey, so I think this kind of seat is the compromise for KAI , though I don't think the seat has to be bombarded with tons of gimmicks like this compartment seat, making the price tag unnecessarily more expensive and the seat prone to premature damage...I myself would prefer a true sleeper with proper bed for night trips....
Amen 🙌🏻
looks decent, i must try it someday
KAI, bring back the sleeper train damn you!! 😂
We don't really need it, just 8 hours journey and it too short for sleeper train. Except we can connect Java and Sumatera by train, I think we need it for sure.
Hopefully one day!
@galihpambudiarto3008 how about the upcoming Jakarta to Banyuwangi direct train? Haha
@@agungheryadi4226 The locomotives would be like: please stop... I just can't anymore...
@@rusticcloud3325 they probably will change the locomotive on the route..
06:20 hi, Indonesian here, I need to clarify, no with the price tag of IDR 2.05 million, you cant get nice three night hotel stay in Indonesia, especially Jakarta.
Pretty sure with such price tag, would only able to get you at least 1.5 night stay in nice hotel in Jakarta in 2024😂.
Those price tag would get you nicer 3-night stay if you pick hotel outside Jakarta, outside Java even and in second tier cities.
Yes you can, because I have. Many times.
@@NonstopEurotrip Yes you can, even sometimes 5 stars hotel, it's just about the times. At peak season, close to impossible but at mid or low, most definitely possible.
Great video !!
Thanks!
nice video, keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Like the Control-Panet on the Captains Chair on the NCC-1701-D from Star Trek ^^
😂😂😂
Hi, from indonesia here, love your video, actually I want to say thanks for providing very nice review, as your video helped me to decide on my recent trip to europe on taking the thalys amsterdam to paris route and whether to take the sncf inoui from paris to milan or the frecciarossa train from paris to milan route, keep up the good videos👍
Regarding review on the Bima compartment, yes I agree with you that KAI could improve more on the placement of the coach, preferably on the rear end of the train configuration like their counterparts on Argo Sumeru, also maybe you should try the new luxury train on Argo Lawu or Argo Dwipangga Jakarta-Yogya/Solo route, as they’re given new 2023 trainset by INKA, the new coach actually better at noice cancellation and ride better at bumpy tracks, but overall it’s still not as smooth as any european rail networks
Thank you, glad I could be of help 🙂
0:33 Whoa, it's so weird to see places where I live in in a video like this! I hope you had a great time in Surabaya, Nonstop Eurotrip!
Just a fun fact, locals usually say 'Surabaya' as "sue-roh-boy-oh" :)
Thanks! 😃
You should visit mount bromo and borobudur temple....very beautiful😊😊
I already have been to both 😌
Hi,I recommend the Daxing Airport Express,it's brand-new and comfortable.I recently took this train,it was a nice experience❤
im indonesian but i never knew it was this amazing
Thanks for the informative video. Agree, having light from the hallway could be disruptive to sleep, along with the horn sounding. Just wondering, did you ever do a trip from Jakarta to Borobudur?
I have yes, I spent 5 nights in Yogyakarta and did all the historical sites around central java 😊
The gyaatt of that staff who showed you the suite was dayummmnn
Bro got brain rotted by watching to much skibidi toilet and u get skibidi toilet syndrome stage 4
@@imdedmousehahahaa
mantab,.....
Great stuff
Thanks 🙏🏻
You should look into making a video on the new Tren Maya or Trans-Isthmus Railway in Mexico.
Coming soon 👀
Greeting from Formosa. I'm sure this is the best train journey around East Asia - besides those at Japan.
Maybe 🤔
@@NonstopEurotrip At least that's not a good idea to travel in Formosa under Fake Free China by train again. The new intercity train is a big nightmare to us.
Indonesia is South East Asia. Japan is East Asia.
@@moonchild7790 I see. In some ways I'm wrong. At this case, KAI serves the best train services around Southeast Asia.
I have shared your video with one of board member PT KAI
Thank you 👍🏻😊
Indonesian are among the smallest and shortest people in the world so this kind of seats/bed is big enough and more than comfortable enough for them but i understand that bigger western foreigner would prefer real larger bed for more comfort.
I dont think the size is the problem, its simply that it isnt a proper bed.. KAI is trying to take a leaf out of commercial aviation's book with these lie flat seats, which is ironic considering how some airlines are now offering fixed beds in addition to a seat in their first class cabins
Indonesian people is Not that short. You only stuck in Old and Outdated data. Most Indonesians today has average height between 167 Cm to 175 Cm for Indonesian Males, and between 155 Cm to 165 Cm for Indonesian Females. These Indonesian height average are the Common height of Asian people. Btw, the population of Indonesian Males with height more than 185 Cm and the population of Indonesian Females with height more than 170 Cm are also Huge. I'm an Indonesian Male with 193 Cm Height.
@@Akainu_D._Ace average men are lower than 160. youre rare caase
I'd Love To Watching You Commuting With KAI Commuterline On Rush Hour Tho
I have 🙃
KAI made this seating style because they were also inspired from yet another airline product - Emirate's First Class Suite. Just like the 2018 Luxury "Sleeper" inspired from many first class products of airliners
It's not quite an Emirates FC suite lol
2013 build in GE sir
Almost similar with Frecciarossa Executive Class Paris-Milan.
Better seat
Two questions, is the chocolate fondent another type of chocolate brownie? when the train arrives at the destination, do you get extra time before you get kicked off?
It's like a brownie with a gooey centre, and not really you have to get off right away 😞
A cool trip, you should try South Sulawesi, there is the first train there.
Very soon 👀
please come to BANGLADESH. you are most welcome here.
One day I will!
WE are waiting to welcome you here@@NonstopEurotrip
The design is very stylish indeed.
I have got the feeling that from a branding point of view, resembling a business class plane seat was KAI’s priority. Objectively a second class SNCF couchette bed probably offers more comfort for sleeping (although much less convenient in the daytime).
The sounding of the horn is indeed annoying. It is of course necessary in countries with unsecured level crossings.
Nice..
Thanks
Nitip jejak ae lah :)
There will always be a room for improvement…I agreed that the luxury coach supposed to be always located in the rear side of the train and away from the loco as well as the power engine compartment. KAI should really consider this placement of the coach.
And yess agreed about the price
It’s just way too expensive especially to the fact that this particular coach is still using the old boogey that makes it move a bit shaky along the journey.
However, about the chair, I don’t think that Indonesians are very comfortable using just a “bed” kind of compartment. We love to use this kinda of multi function chair/bed.
Well, it’s just preferences, right? Just like how Indians love their fully bed compartments so much.
Me personally, really like this compartment coach so much (especially that massage feature, ough they’re so good😊)…but again, all I have to complain about is the ticket price.
Like always i'm impress with your video especially this one. And I want to give you a little information about the compartment suites carried by the Bima train.For departures from Surabaya to Jakarta the compartment suite train will be at the front while for the opposite...
The compartment suite train will be at the back for departures from Jakarta to Surabaya.
This can be seen from the Argo Semeru train which is available in Gambir and carries a suite compartment on the back train. Just like the Bima compartment suite train carried by the Argo Semeru train, it will be at the front for departure from Surabaya.
I made a long message, didn't I?
😅
I'm aware of this, that's why I said they should shunt it to the back....
Biru Malam is back
Agreed that the sleeper train should be on the opposite side of the head of the train so the honking sound much less compared to other class. Also the floor lights should be able to turned off or ar least dimmable. If it’s not possible they should opted for a point LED at the 4 corner only with much less watt rather than strips led, as some people may usually sleeps with complete darkness
I think they could try Fuxing style of put a plane's first class seat inside instead, no need to divide into tiny rooms. As I see this is just a cubicle with a chair that don't goes as flat as a bed.
Also any chance you spend thousands of USD in E&O trains?
Oh they have one of those too, I rode it last week 😂
twitter.com/nonstopeurotrip/status/1759824622839865721?t=7-5wVK7Gs-I-iqdb10cNiA&s=19
Argo Bromo Anggrek 1st Generation Luxury Class
Nice! I'd definitely try it if I could, but since I never travel alone, probably not a good option.
Fair enough!
0:41 I think the Indonesian text on the video needs to be slightly corrected. The correct form is "Tidak bisa berbicara Bahasa Inggris? Gunakan Subtitel 'CC' di bawah ini untuk menerjemahkan ke 140 Bahasa!"
The meaning is close enough like the English one (Don't Speak English? Use the 'CC' Subtitles below to translate in to 140 Languages!)
Anyway, how is the firmness of the Compartment Suites seat? Is the cushion is more comfier than European standard Couchette or Sleeper trains (especially ÖBB Nightjet, had previously tried Nightjet in sleeper car from Vienna to Amsterdam) or this Bima Compartment Suites seats are more softer than the Nightjet Couchette or Sleeper?
Thanks 🙏🏻
I like the concept. I'd definitely take it.
Hope you can one day 🫡
Nice video. Small point: The correct translation of "Don't speak Indonesian?" in your opening subtitles is "Tidak berbicara bahasa Indonesia?" The word "jangan" does mean "don't", but in the exhortative sense, used when telling someone not to do something ("Don't!")
Thanks, many people pointed this out and it will be changed going forward
I don't think when Whoosh is extended to Surabaya, the regular trains services with the same route won't be needed. Take Argo Parahyangan, they've served Jakarta-Bandung for a very long time, and even after Whoosh had opened, they still stands strong until now.
My opinion gets a stronger backup by the fact that Whoosh's price for the business class is slightly more expensive than Priority class in Argo Parahyangan, not to mention the fact that you could go to Yogyakarta with regular executive class by the price less than of First Class in Whoosh.
I think Whoosh won't replace the regular trains anytime soon, maybe one day, but untill now, I think Whoosh is only for those who are strictly in business and wants to arrive as soon as possible.
Overall, thanks for your video, and yes, I agree that beds are better than overly reclining seats. Cheers!
I expect it's all the crossings which is why the train is sounding the horn all night.High speed lines shouldn't be to the detriment of a sleeper train network as it's possible to have both and in Europe we are bringing them back.
I wasn't saying they shouldn't honk, but they should really move this coach away from it 🙃
@@NonstopEurotrip but anyway, from GMR, the set of compartment suites is in the back. Shown in your last minute video. Maybe they couldn't move the coach due to time limitation in SB yard.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make the review. But I didn't see mentioned power or USB facilities? If you did mention them and I missed them then sorry.
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I blame it on my old age:-) and thanks for taking the time to reply and point me in the right direction. Please keep your vids coming as they are not only informative but also enjoyable. Cheers Kym
What camera did you use to record the video?
GoPro hero 12
I dropped you a message on insta to say that if you're next around Indo, give the panoramic train a shot. The family and I rode Bruce Willis from Bandung to Jogja, which roughly worked out to 60 quid a pop, which is about the same as the Luxury class with their business class style recliners. As with your consist, the Panoramic train was largely isolated from the executive carraiges. That being said, the food and service was excellent, as was the wifi, even when going through the mountainous region between Bandung and Tasik. Bog as probably one of the best I've experienced on the train, with the only slight downside being that there was no baby changing facilities. That being said, I don't expect many families with toddlers to be travelling panoramic. I have to say that the investment in infrastructure in the past 5 years has been hugely beneficial to the majority of the population and puts the privatised british railways to shame. For the price of a single off-peak return to London from Bristol Parkway, you'd have an unforgettable experience.
Hello, sorry I didn't get your message! I have done the panoramic train from Jakarta to Bandung and will make the video later on! Thanks 🙏🏻
I agree, no matter how comfy and luxurious those seats are, a full bed is always the more preferred option, though its still a mystery as to why the minister of transport and KAI themselves are so reluctant (my only guesses are the problems with the old Bima train or that there's not really a journey in the current Indonesian rail network that requires a true bed sleeper coach, apart from maybe the yet to be refined Sumatra line).
Hopefully KAI and to an extent the minister sees this video and lift the ban or whatever reason they're not allowing beds
I mean it's basically a bed anyway, so they might as well use proper beds 😂
Tapi semenjak Pak Jonan ga ada KAI & KAI commuter kaya kurang disiplin, apalagi belakangan ini banyak trouble yang terjadi termasuk gangguan sistem, kereta anjlok dan kecelakaan yang melibatkan kereta api.
kecelakaan pas jaman pak Jonan juga lumayan banyak, paling parah PLH Petarukan tahun 2010.
Pertama, gangguan di KAI komuter disebabkan karena armadanya yg udh tua, seiring bertambahnya penduduk, armada tersebut gk bisa fresh lagi.
Kedua, berapa banyak kejadian kereta anjlok di era skrg? Masih banyak dulu atau skrg? Klo saya liat, KAI jarang kejadian anjlok.
Ketiga, kecelakaan kereta paling banyak disebabkan karena ulah pengendara lain yg gk sabaran.
Coba bandingkan yg dulu dengan skrg, masih lebih banyak yg mana permasalahannya?
Bom dia boa viagem assistindo
Aren't there some sleeper beds like this in Australia?
I don't believe they're closing door suites
Just watch this. I am surprised that Bima has reinvented with new cars and new class compartment. Its very expensive though, especially for locals compare to the trip time. But maybe there's a niche market they targeted.
Maybe i wont be able to to a trip with it so thank youbfpr your video and especially your honest review 😊
We agree!
Compartrement suite memang kereta kelas 1 Indonesia.. wajar harga yang sangat mahal
indonesia use narrow gauge (1067mm) instead of standard/wide gauge have something to do with the bumpy ride quality. it's is known that narrow gauge is cheaper to built and more suited for indonesian mountainous geography. that's combine with the fact that japan also use one and indonesia is known to import many ex-japanese commuter line also contribute to why KAI uses them as standard gauge for indonesia
Iya bener banget, harganya begitu mahal sekali hanya untuk perjalanan 1x yg kurang dari setengah hari.. Biayanya ga transparan buat apa aja, jgn2 pajaknya makan 40% dr harga
Kalau gak mampu ya tidak usah naik itu kereta kompartemen, nak saja yang kelas ekonomi. Simple kan?
Tidak usah ngoceh delusif-ilusif... !
Come to BANGLADESH
The majority of Indonesians are Muslim, that's why the compartment dividers are semi-transparent glass and only 1 seat is available in each compartment. (You know, to prevent people from doing something...)
What? Sleeping?
@@NonstopEurotripto stop people from creating new lives on train
It is on the rear on the reverse journey
That's no good for me though is it
The man behind a better transformation of KAI was Mr. Ignasius Jonan
Ok?
3:13 they already create new lounge for luxury train passengers, not using that room anymore
I think you need to rest the sleeper ticket for bus in indonesia too
Looks absolutely beautiful! I’ve got your point reagrding to price but let’s be honest compare to any European rail service 100£ is bargain for 10 hrs journey on such a luxurious train.Thanks for this video :)
Yeah but £100 is 3 nights in a 5 star hotel in Indonesia 😂
that blanket is for one journey then recyled again, so its new
Never said it wasn't?
Yes, i know it from my grand
indonesian railways now is completely incredible, but it has diffrent story when you try in early 2000s
@@Crying-Croc prety sure at that time our train was a disaster. You can still see people commute on the roof of the train
You live in the past
A change for the better then!
talking about prices, what do you think about the new NightJet pricing?
They've actually come down a lot since the uproar!
Actually I like the concept tho, I want to sleep while able to see the scenery, many sleeper train doesn't have bed that facing the window. Also I like that I can have a chair so my head won't get tired watcing the scenery while sleeping. Extra points, I love how private it's with just one people per room instead of two people like how sleeper train usually have. Agree with how noisy is it tho and also how expensive it's for the local.
Thanks for sharing 😊
you should have made the more apt comparison with discount air service
Hardly the same class 😂
When train start from surabaya gubeng, the luxury class is always at the front of the consist, because the platform at surabaya gubeng station is not to long and the luxury class passenger will not to get a proper platform.
As I said, it needs to be moved
Actually, you forgot the sleeperete as type and this car appears to me like an upgrade of a sleeperete. All in all I agree though. This is how a 1+ class should look like for a train in day mode.
Absolutely 💯