iPhone 11 Pro VS 12 Pro Cameras - Can You See A Difference?
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Were you able to see a difference? Did you guess right???
I did. But I was surprised and semi sad to see the 11 was better!!! 😳
The dynamic range on Camera B gave away the 12, and less red skin tone.
@@RichScott I think it will be way different once youtube starts supporting dolby vision HDR and direct uploads of it. but for now yes the 11 looks very good. not sure if it's better but at least as good.
Yes I guessed it right ) you can’t escape the yellowish tint of iPhone 11 pro
100% the 12pro look terrible, but this is on you man, sorry to say. You should not use hdr in the comparison, but the normal video mode. Dolby is at the moment just for apple device that can see it, they need to make a codec usable.
And to be honest I used the HDR from the xt3 vs the log in past, they are completely different, grade hdr is not just a nightmare but it is a completely different science.
Honestly my guess was that B was the 12 pro, just because of the colors and the low light noise
Matti, I appreciate the actual informative details you put in this video instead of making it like a 99% b-roll commercial. I'm glad you added all the steps and comparisons it took to get the final product. These devices have a learning curve and mostly go underused in beginners hands
Thanks for shouting Danny out, Matti. He definitely deserves the attention. That was a profoundly moving video and sharing in such a pivotal moment in his life and growth was a privilege to behold.
Love the love for Danny! Great seeing my favorite creators support each other :)
Ahhh you’re so close to 1million! It’s been a treat to watch you grow these years! :) definitely got some good filmmaking tips from you!
Unrelated but you’ve made me want a one wheel so bad. Although, not too sure how much I would use it. It looks so fun watching you cruise around on one!
I want a one wheel so bad but I’m pretty sure I’d faceplant immediately!
@@makestuffmike hahah same 😂 btw I just checked out your rode reel film and it was great! Can’t believe you filmed that all yourself! Goodluck!
@@JennaBrown Hey there thank you so much!
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I have been waiting for something like this, thank you Matti!
That rig looks insane! Loving the test Matti!
waiting for this video! Thank you Matti.
Loving this last videos with the phones 📱 Thank you for your content. Hug from 🇵🇹 Portugal
Great video, waiting on my 12 pro right now but it has a long waiting time here in the Netherlands. Thanks for the great video
Matti: The slow motion is Apples to Apples.
Me: The entire video is comparing apples....
Honestly they looked exactly the same. Made me feel better about sticking with the 11 pro
I do agree
Same. 11 pro still on top
@@donniejacobmedia I would not go so far as saying 11 pro is better.
@@Ethan-ee2sr maybe not better, but there’s no justifying the 12 pro at the moment. It’s tech won’t be fully relevant for a few years
Big difference when he was directly in front of the window, but other than that 11 is solid
Great video! And I can’t wait for you to hit 1mil!!
The music in the camera test was awesome!
Sick comparison Matti!!!
I actually did notice the difference in dynamic range and there was more of that light bleed / flare you get from cheaper smaller sensors. Especially obvious on the dark hat over the bright sky
My guy Danny gets the recognition he deserves! Cool stuff
Yesss🔥
Thanks for another amazing video Matti, love the time and effort you always take with each of these. One thing I'd love to know is aside from iPhone, have you ever tried the huawei p30 pro or p40 if available... Since these come with leica lenses and to my mind are still leagues ahead of any other phone camera. The video isn't world beating but the stills are phenomenal. Love to see you try these out against iPhone or Samsung etc. Leica lenses on a phone man... Amazing
Wohooo way to go for 1 MILLION! you deserve it.
Yeah Danny’s video was so good! Just watched it!
Why didn't you mention that you can simply turn HDR off in the camera settings on the new iPhone 12? Instead you stated that to get good color out of it you would "have to" color correct. Misleading.
Maybe he didn't know? haha.
You can't turn off hdr in video mode
@@nickyumsh Yes you can. It's literally a setting called HDR video.
I think the HDR is trash you can see all the reviews and you will see the flickering all the time, just look at them and let me know
@@DavidCastro-by5sp HDR isn't trash. Your phone just doesn't support HDR playback. Hence the flickering or whatever you call it.
Thanks buddy, love your videos.
I think I will keep my iPhone 11 since I shoot mostly with my a7iii 🤷🏼♂️
Crazy close to 1million! Woot! You got this. Cool comparison. I am for sure upgrading from my iPhone 8 Plus 🤣🤣
Yes I guessed it right, and I was sure. I’m very used to the 11 Pro look that I can tell immediately! Great video as always
Awesome review! Can you share with us some full resolution SOOC photos from the 12 Pro?
Rock on, botched or not, this is a fantastic review! Thx for the in-depth comparisons!
Yeah I saw Danny vid this morning and it was amazing
can you do a video on how you corrected the colors in the video for the iphone 12? Also does skin tone matter when you are making color corrections?
it's impressive how many people are trying to find out what apple actually improved on the 12. It seems most are trying to convince themselves they didn't spend their money for nothing... I got mine on Saturday and am really disappointed about the very little changes we get for the money. Just remember at the beginning of 2000 when every 6 months, mobile phone companies came up with crazy new innovations. Now, it seems they totally lost their creativity and innovation potential. It's just the "tech part under the hood" that improves, but the NORMAL user experience, the WOW, the surprises, the excitement of playing with really really new features, doesn't exist anymore... or is it just me?
Honestly, if we have to look hard for improvements, then it hasn't improved that much in the first place.
Or they’re just apple fanboys you know.
What huge leaps can you expect from these things now, anyway? They already have more computing power than the Space Shuttle had less than forty years ago.
I feel everything you're saying. Companies definitely lost innovation and creativity. They see that whatever they're selling is a hit so they continue doing incremental changes knowing they can do much more. For example I have the 11 pro max and I'm more than happy and not interested at all to switch for the 12 pro max because the only thing that changed was the edges, they are now squared. But the camera and speed is very little that has improved. I will wait for the 13 pro max and hope they get rid of the notch and add 90hz or 120hz..
@@largon2008 Totally agree. Companies like Apple can have the biggest controversy in the world , sells crap and people would still buy it.
I just purchased the iPhone 11 Pro Max after watching your video and a couple others that compared its photos to the 12 Pro /Max. I tend to like saturated photos with warmer color tones so the iPhone 11Pro Max was perfect for me. I thought the 12 Pro photos were too bright & and the distant background was too detailed and didn’t look realistic. I also took Portrait photos in Best Buy and I thought the 12 Pro was too bright and even hazy around my face due to the lights. I hear that Apple has stopped selling the iPhone 11 Pro Max so I’m glad I got mine in time. I agree with you, the 11’s photos are better right out of the camera, and even though I edit my photos, it’s nice to have them look good with one click.
1:30 AM binge-watching Matti's vids.........got a class at 7...still worth it.
I think your grading on the 12 footage made me like it more
To be honest it was pretty hard to tell up until the timelapse footage was shown. The inclusion of a long shutter mode seems to be the biggest upgrade so far.
We all will be super hyped when matti hits one million!
I would love to see a comparison between the Pixel 5 and the IPhone 12. Mostly interested in what Matti thinks of the camera quality.
I'll definitely need my Moment Case so I can mount a variable ND on that thing.
These are some #wheelgoodvibes Matti!
Well, I’m actually glad you botched the comparison, because every other youtuber does a regular comparison but you instead showed how good iPhone 12’s footage takes color correction and I must say I’m impressed! I should have expected this, since it’s 10bit, but wow. My 11 gets sooo noisy when I drop some preset luts :c gonna Trade it In for the 12 pro max soon 👀
Wait for the 13. Or at least wait the 12pro max
@@justaguyfromreddit I’m totally waiting for the max. But I want this year, because in Europe Apple has really good deal for 6.1” iPhone 11 trade in. 475€, while for the XS (which is only 1 year older and cost 1000€!) only 340€... and I miss OLED :c so for me it’s just perfect opportunity I guess 😬
Olso I bought 11 not pro last year, because I was expecting redesign this year, so it was temporal phone anyway
@@BernardWalter yes I am in europe too. But since I payed 1000€ for an iPhone 11 Pro Max 256gb, I’m not interested in switching until I get at least 120hz screen
@Issa Baddie remember to not compare compare CZcams compressed video to on device recording ;) I was comparing iPhone 11 video to s10 with my friend and iPhones lead was unbelievable. Also noisy after heavy color grading is actually quite expected... the fact that iPhone 12 seems to handle this is mind blowing. For comparison even Sony a7iii on,y records 8bit, while iPhones now record 10bit! Unedited 11 and 12 will be similar, especially on CZcams (and you can see 11’s footage in the video - pro has identical sensor, lens and processor...) :)
@@justaguyfromreddit I wouldn’t switch either :) it’s a great phone,
So crazy!!! Human forms look dang near exactly the same. But looking into the background... the grays are a bit bluer, there’s a little less green and more magenta (tiny bit). Background images have more detail, by that I mean more... dynamic range between highlights and low lights. But weird that people remain almost the same.
Even tho I don’t own any of them, and I am interested in one of them, but I honestly guessed B is the 12 pro.
I love this kind of comparison because it allows me to chose based on what it looks better to my eyes regardless the age of the device.
Hey Matti! Just curious how big the difference, could you do a video comparing the cameras on the iPhone 12 Pro and an older camera, maybe even as old as an iPhone 6!
This one definitely wins an upthumby for providing captions. Thank you.
Its interesting to me because the shots where you had the cameras stationary, camera A looked better. The shots where you were carrying them and moving, camera B looked better. To me. Maybe I'm just weird? Thanks for sharing this analysis!
Awesome 👍
I'm glad you posted this. I found myself liking the 11 pro better-which is good because I have the 11 Pro in my pocket
11 pro is definitely better
Still rockin the iPhone 6s. I plan on preordering the 12 mini.
Best botched comparison video on CZcams..!! Nice work Matti 🤟
You should look into the Moment phone cases and filters
From the beginning I knew that B was the 12 Pro, more details and the colorimetry on the 12 is closer to that of the iPhone X.
I’m still confused on I should go with an 11 Pro or 12 Pro for vlogging. Literally starting from scratch and I really like the look and crispness of the 12 Pro. You stating color correcting will be a real job has me kind of scared, and the price of the 12 Pro gives me something to think about. After watching this, I’m still not sure which way to go :( Help me!
I have the Iphone 11 Pro, I will not change to 12! Thank you Matti!
Same! 11 works for me
Just watched this video on my 4K computer monitor and man can you tell the difference between the two cameras. Especially the Ultra wide camera.
Happy with my 11 Pro Max which I got in March. However, the 12 looks like my out 4S which really felt like a non mobile device which I really liked.
Saw your recommendation on twitter, fun video from Danny. As for iPhone. I think if you are using a phone, if you edit on phone all good. Otherwise, probably better not using a phone if you need to do complex stuff on a computer. Phone camera look great but the amount of processing they do in phone and the features they mention seem more gimmick aimed at the every day phone user rather than pro filmmaker.
“Comparing Apples to Apples” - I see what you did there...😏
Try Final Cut Pro with the HDR Tools Preset/Correction which should takes care of the over exposing :)
Hello Matti. Could you give us some RAW photos from both cameras... it will be great to know the real differences...
Can you please do a comparison of a iPhone 12 and iPhone XR
The skin smoothing at 2:05 is insane, is almost worse than in Samsung's camera algorithms
Dude. The color correction was messing with me so that makes sense.
Definitely makes me appreciate the 11 Pro much more.
If you are watching the DVision footage on HDR supporting device that would look amazing! Or you can export in iMovie and turn HDR off when exporting so that it saves as a regular video format while keeping the HDR effect. Check Jonathan Morrison on Twitter for reference. CZcams won’t show the DVision footage unless exported as Jonathan has advices.
1 Mill, LET’S GOOOOO!
As always love what you do and thanks for sharing
Even a "bptched" camera comparaison look grear and is fun with Mati😜
Much prefer the new colours of the 12! Guessed right!
If you're really honest, there's only a slight difference between these two cameras.
Most of us will edit these photos anyway.
for the perfect pic I always use my DSLR
No actually most of us won’t edit them at all
@@anthonylunagonzalez what’s that
DANNY! didn’t expect this shoutout lol
you should make all yt videos for one week with the iphone 12 pro. Thats a good test
Hey Matti when are you going to upload videos on a 18/9 aspect ratio?
I guessed B was the 12 Pro. The issues sound to be app problems. For some it may be worth giving FilmicPro a few months to work with it and tweak their apps.
I noticed the right camera was 12 pro with the slight variation of the colors. That's crazy.
Yo get matti to 1 mill. His content is dope
Hyvä video oli, itse meinasin tuon 11 pro:n päivittää 12 pro maxiin :D Ihan juurikin kameran takia ja vihaan isoja puhelimia, no ei auta. Tykkään kyllä äijän videoista, iso peukku ja kiitos videoista 👍😄
You should try davinci, it has the function to process dolby vision properly
Both quality cameras! 🔥
YES! You found Danny!!
I thought the A was the 12, specially for details on the ground
A lot of people upgrading would be coming from the X, XS or earlier. Could you compare those cameras too?
Any chance you’ll be reviewing the 12 pro max in the future?
1000k like mark 🦾
Hey great Review Night mode on the 12pro kicks ass
Finally i got to see a Matti video on time
Hey Matti, why are you uploading in only 1080 now? It would look much better in 4k
Can you turn off Dolby Vision on the 12 Pro and re-shoot? That would put things on the same playing field.
Good point! Well, can you actually switch dolby vision on and off or is it always active and so will all videos look that flat straight out of camera and have to be edited kinda professional with color grading etc?
For sure! This is the test i'm waiting for.
Almost identical but there are frames that one is better than the other. I'm for A for the 12 pro. I'm wrong due to saturation on some of the 12 pro shot.
Cool!✌️
Thanks Matti - this video is a deal breaker for me. I will go for 11 pro!!!
Ok, great review, but I was very interested, please ... I have a Galaxy S10 + and I'm considering switching to iOS a lot. Will the iP11 Pro or iP12 Pro be a better choice for me? My point is, is it worth paying extra for the iP12 Pro compared to the iP11 Pro? And most importantly ... the photos and videos are almost comparable between the two models, but can we expect any update for the iP12 Pro, especially for LiDar, which will be crucial? Thank you.
Isn't dolby vision mode for HDR monitors? If you don't have an HDR display, the comparison is moot, but I've seen other youtubers disable the HDR mode, and problem solved.
To be honest the blacks in the 11 pro looks better
I think the Verge’s video covered the difference it has to do with this Dolby vision and it being a new format they tweaked specific to Apple that displays don’t support the exact HDR type yet. iPhone 12 looks way better though. Skin tones looked like a plastic doll on the 11 when comparing to the 12.
The last few videos on Matti’s Channel has been comparisons , man #techtober is no joke huh ?!
I have a question. I have an iPhone 7 and I want to upgrade. For about the same price I can by an iPhone 12 or an iPhone 11 pro. What do you suggest ?
Anyway great video ! Thank you
I actually cried so hard for Denny's video
Hmm so for photos with best real life color accuracy should I go with the 12 regular or 11 pro upgrading from an 8? Or alternatively is 12 pro worth it ?
Danny would appreciate it
Will all video footage look that flat straight out of camera of the 12 Pro and have to be edited kinda professional with color grading etc to make it look any good? Or can you actually switch off Dolby Vision so footage will look good or great from stock?
The 12 pro kinda has that weird magenta thing like the Sony a73
@Matti Haapoja
Great job! For filmmaking which iphone provides the desired quality at the cheapest price, i mean if telephoto lens does nothing when it comes to video shooting is that okay to get 11pro or even lowest models, it is really important to me and this'll be a helpful answer to a lot of people like me? thnx in advance.
The iPhone 12 Pro Max will probably be a bigger difference but the only real noticeable difference was it was a bit brighter, the colors popped a little more (your red jacket for example) and some details were a bit sharper but not a night and day difference.
As usual it’s probably best to wait a few model years to see a big difference.
Wish while testing Pro Max you won't color grade the footage, this review is confusing. Don't understand which lens is which and which footage is straight out of camera? Otherwise good work man! 👍