Early malls also had auditoriums. They were meant to be multipurpose regional centers. Southdale's center court was inspired by architect Victor Gruen's native Vienna, a European town center brought indoors.
I grew up in "Oakdale" (suburb of St. Paul in the East) ,which they had a small shopping center, but no mall :( It would've been perfect to have a place called "Oakdale Mall" top go with the theme of the other surrounding malls (e.g. Rosedale, Southdale, Ridgedale, etc..). They should've called "Mall of America : Bloomington Dale or Bloomingdale" ;) Great video..never thought about the ending..now I know "valley" (English term)
Southdale is often said to be the first enclosed mall shopping center in the United States. However, that depends and how you define enclosed-mall shopping center. If it means branch department stores as anchors, then Southdale was the first. However, another, now defunct and demolished, mall in Appleton, Wis. opened at least a year before Southdale. Valley Fair opened in 1955 with a W T Grant's variety store and a Krambo grocery store as anchors. The mall was fully enclosed, heated in winter and air conditioned in summer at a time when many retail stores were not yet air conditioned. Between Grant's and Krambo were stores on each side of the walkway.
it was the fad back in the days these were made from the 1950-1970's theres a mapledale market in new york, and practically every shopping hub in california is a something'dale. palmdale was my favorite.
Great episode! Have had to explain this a few times, now I can just text the curious a link. On a related note, how did "ramp" become the preferred Twin Cities and Upper Midwest term for parking garages? When I've referred to a parking ramp in Massachusetts and New York and California, people shoot you a funny look and ask what you mean! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
in the 1970's when democrats took control of the state all of old hwy 12 going into minneapolis terminated into parking ramps being built in the way to end traffic and force every poor person into being raped robbed and murdered on public transit platforms and bus stops. same thing is happening with light rail in the suburbs. in the 1980's old twelve received federal funding to revamp it into what is now 394 out to minnetonka at ridgedale. ridgedale ended direct public transit due to all the thieves rapists and murderers it brings.
Lazy... if you're going to make a video, make a video... don't just have one slide with audio... and it's very Minnesotan to remind everyone that you're the largest newsroom instead of just letting your reputation speak for you. 🙄
I hate seeing brick & mortar stores going away. Online shopping has many drawbacks. You can’t tell the quality of an item, you can’t tell if the color of something will be the same as you see online (it’s often NOT), AND- if you’re a woman, there is no standard clothing sizing from brand to brand. A size Small in one brand fits like a Medium in another-and so forth. Seeing the real clothing in person with your own eyes, AND being able to try it on-is really the only way to be sure of what you’re getting, and IF what you bought will actually fit! It’s a hassle to have to repack and ship stuff back because the sizing is off or color looks nothing like it does online. I’ve bought new pants online that weren’t sewn right or had other defects. Had to ship them back. Another benefit of in-person shopping is NOT putting yet more money in the hands of billionaires like Bezos. Brick and mortar should always have a place in retail. It seems like consumers are losing more physical store choices daily with this obsession with online shopping.
Early malls also had auditoriums. They were meant to be multipurpose regional centers. Southdale's center court was inspired by architect Victor Gruen's native Vienna, a European town center brought indoors.
I grew up in "Oakdale" (suburb of St. Paul in the East) ,which they had a small shopping center, but no mall :( It would've been perfect to have a place called "Oakdale Mall" top go with the theme of the other surrounding malls (e.g. Rosedale, Southdale, Ridgedale, etc..). They should've called "Mall of America : Bloomington Dale or Bloomingdale" ;) Great video..never thought about the ending..now I know "valley" (English term)
Brookdale was awesome in its day.
Southdale is often said to be the first enclosed mall shopping center in the United States. However, that depends and how you define enclosed-mall shopping center. If it means branch department stores as anchors, then Southdale was the first. However, another, now defunct and demolished, mall in Appleton, Wis. opened at least a year before Southdale. Valley Fair opened in 1955 with a W T Grant's variety store and a Krambo grocery store as anchors. The mall was fully enclosed, heated in winter and air conditioned in summer at a time when many retail stores were not yet air conditioned. Between Grant's and Krambo were stores on each side of the walkway.
I’ve always thought the ridge at Ridgedale was the bluff on the north side of 394. I’ll have to take a look from the Nordstrom café.
Bertha's Kitty Boutique in the Dales: Rosedale, Southdale, Airedale, Clydesdale and all other fine shopping centers.
Mall of America is unofficially called Hugedale😊
Thank you Mystery Science Theater 3000
it was the fad back in the days these were made from the 1950-1970's theres a mapledale market in new york, and practically every shopping hub in california is a something'dale. palmdale was my favorite.
Great episode! Have had to explain this a few times, now I can just text the curious a link. On a related note, how did "ramp" become the preferred Twin Cities and Upper Midwest term for parking garages? When I've referred to a parking ramp in Massachusetts and New York and California, people shoot you a funny look and ask what you mean! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
in the 1970's when democrats took control of the state all of old hwy 12 going into minneapolis terminated into parking ramps being built in the way to end traffic and force every poor person into being raped robbed and murdered on public transit platforms and bus stops. same thing is happening with light rail in the suburbs. in the 1980's old twelve received federal funding to revamp it into what is now 394 out to minnetonka at ridgedale. ridgedale ended direct public transit due to all the thieves rapists and murderers it brings.
What about Dinkydale?
Lazy... if you're going to make a video, make a video... don't just have one slide with audio... and it's very Minnesotan to remind everyone that you're the largest newsroom instead of just letting your reputation speak for you. 🙄
I hate seeing brick & mortar stores going away. Online shopping has many drawbacks. You can’t tell the quality of an item, you can’t tell if the color of something will be the same as you see online (it’s often NOT), AND- if you’re a woman, there is no standard clothing sizing from brand to brand. A size Small in one brand fits like a Medium in another-and so forth. Seeing the real clothing in person with your own eyes, AND being able to try it on-is really the only way to be sure of what you’re getting, and IF what you bought will actually fit!
It’s a hassle to have to repack and ship stuff back because the sizing is off or color looks nothing like it does online. I’ve bought new pants online that weren’t sewn right or had other defects. Had to ship them back.
Another benefit of in-person shopping is NOT putting yet more money in the hands of billionaires like Bezos. Brick and mortar should always have a place in retail. It seems like consumers are losing more physical store choices daily with this obsession with online shopping.
Sounds Racist.
Ilhan should rename them alll "Floyd" to honor one of the greatest Minnesota families of all time
You sound like a racist yourself.
St Floyd of Fentanyl Regional Medical Center
Not too funny to this born and raised Minneapolis senior. I lived at Southdale every Saturday with my friends such a fun time.
what a racist comment