The: Fired for 10 cents story. Even if Op agreed to the deduction, he can claim (rightly so) that he felt that if he didn't agree that he would have been fired over 10 cents, but it would have been listed on his record as Theft (without the specific amount listed) which would have made it impossible for him to get hired at any worthwhile job. Basically have him getting only Minimum Wage jobs for the rest of his life....
@@ethanfrench9111 Exactly!!! I was trying convey that, and when they tried to justify it by his signing the paperwork, he could claim that he felt threatened with being charge with Theft and fired and he didn't want Theft on his record..... so he signed (under duress!)
The illegal deduction doesn't work the same way illegal contracts don't work: it doesn't matter if you consent, it's not something you can legally consent to because the action itself is illegal.
Sigh...I was having my bestest day, until my 6yr old granddaughter came downstairs to chat. After a few minutes, she looked at me and said "Old peoples fun is boring", I was playing Fallout 4 on my PS 4 Pro. I feel really old now.... Anyway thanks for the great video.
@@gordowg1wg145 that’s exactly what I would have done. I told my son, the games he play are boring when he told me painting and going to the park are boring
Yup, with the first one, technically he could have charged the company with extortion - he had paid for the item, as proven by the statement, but rather than merely be petty and have him pay the outstanding 10 cents(!), they forced him to hand over that amount again. Might be worth getting some legal advice on that, if you're as petty as they are - but with actual good cause.
You can’t legally consent to an illegal act. It doesn’t matter that OP agreed to let them do it, they broke the law and would be completely screwed in court
Here's the real problem: Management doesn't do their job -- and should be fired for it: You had one job to do and you were too incompetent, entitled or narcissistic to be bothered with it. Along comes a worker bee who recognizes the problem and tells the management -- and it's in the management's court, BUT... worker bee recognizes that management won't do their job and there's nothing that worker bee can to to make management do their job. If the job isn't done, the company will suffer along with a lot of worker bees being penalized. On the other hand, if worker bee fixes the problem (yet again), he (or she) is enabling management to be mental and incompetent. The difficult thing is to be able to choose which way to go -- make yourself a disposable resource and keep fixing the problems (which will escalate over and over higher and higher over time until the whole thing collapses) or to go straight to entropy, cover yourself and watch the whole environment go to scrap in shambles to the destruction of the innocent. It's a difficult ethical situation to make, often with a no win situation. Damn you management! Usually, you're not the ones to suffer! You inept, incompetent, entitled narcissists are garbage people. Let's be glad that occasionally it works out -- but I'm suspecting more often or not, it doesn't.
Story2 was funny! Be careful what you complain about! But I do agree the manager shouldn't have wasted their time or OP's time, with such a frivolous complaint. "Look into my eye!" - Sgt Apone, Aliens
We had a guy get called into management because he "wasn't his usual smiling persona". Management chewed him out. Big boss heard about it and investigated. His wife was in surgery and the caller board wouldn't let him off that day. Big boss had a fit, sent him home with full pay and off with pay until wife okay. A;so chewed out caller and Manager. Great man Big boss was. Miss you "Ollie".
Right to work states. But truth be told the first shops to close are union shops. Their operational costs are just much higher than non union. Cheaper to shut the operation down, redirect your salary employees to other areas and send the shop's manufacturing to other factories to complete.
But the sad truth? This is a case where the person making the decision is (1) unaware of how this will impact their operations and (2) is high enough on the totem pole to push the issue with HR. But as for HR in this story ... this was early COVID, so at some point HR probably got directed to work from home. So there was nobody in the office to even pick up the phone when the OP was calling. So unless you could locate the email address for HR staff? They probably aren't even aware you are trying to reach them.
@@superdave8248 Right to work has nothing to do with violation of *Federal Law* which the first story was an example of. Also high employee turn over is never a good thing as it is a possible sign the company is about to go bust or move as new workers take a lot of time (ie money) to train before they are efficient.
For story #2, In my experience there are a startling number of customers who will complain about anything and fail to see the stupidity of their complaint. One time at my job I was working the drive through register and taking drive through orders. Meaning that there are times where I’m having to hold two conversations at once or politely ask someone to wait just one second while I finish up an order (Usually it’s the window customer because it should be obvious to them I’m also talking to someone else). One time I had a customer complaint because they claimed I ignored them at the window after I politely told them I needed just one moment to finish up this order. My manager threw that complaint out because it was bullshit and I’m the most polite and professional employee we had. This scenario is why I believe customer satisfaction surveys need to be revised or outright thrown out.
Customer reviews cannot be monitored for quality control. It has been shown that an unsatisfied customer is at least five times more likely to write or fill out a review than a satisfied customer, and customers will perceive a very nice-appearing worker to be competent, when in reality they have not really taken care of the problem.
First story: I've often wondered why the USA has so much litigation going on, and just realized why. It's the only way to get companies to do the right thing (hopefully).
With employers, it is because the workers have been brainwashed to think that unions are corrupt when the reality is the corporations are super corrupt and spend millions on screwing the workers to keep unions from gaining a foothold again in the workplace. There is no reason a CEO (who often has no direct experience in the industry he heads) should make multimillions while the workers make just above minimi, wage. Example: Jeff Bezos could raise the minimum wage at Amazon to $25/hr for EVERYONE starting there, pay for comprehensive health insurance for full AND part time employees, and have a defined benefit pension plan, with four weeks vacation a year in addition to sick leave, and he would STILL be in the top five richest people in the US or the world.
USA has, unfortunately, moved away from a general, 'do it because it's right' mentality to a 'what's the most I can get away with without getting fined/arrested'. It's quite alarming.
The 10 cent one you should have sued them. They fire you over somethin as pathetic as that, but write it up as somethin completely different is illegal.
the music store story: in my experience with retail if a customer gives a review that is short of full marks, even a 4 out of 5, management will treat it as seriously as a failure.
7:04 this feels like an Amazon story, because as anyone who does, did, or used to work for Amazon, they would tell you a version of how they treat their employees like crap, I am one of those people, I've written up for "under proformence" I was working my ass off, and was only doing no work, because was stationed at a place that I couldn't leave waiting for said work, and they would write you up for the tiniest infractions, Amazon was a constant revolving door, you could barely find someone you recognize
Yeah. I'm aware of the stories about Amazon, even though I use them to get items hard-to-get where I am. On the occasion when an article gets delivered next door, I _DO NOT_ complain, as long as I eventually get the item. Not giving Big Brother/Boxer any ammunition. >:(
I want to throw this out there for and bad level associates and fresh managers: we are often told that it is cheaper to keep employees than hire new ones, which is true. You have to spend time finding new employees, then you have to spend time training them. I've been told it costs about $2000 for just training an associate at my job, 3-4 years ago. Value your employees, even if only numbers. We are expensive numbers lol
I believe the Redditor may be incorrect regarding the pay cheque deduction. Laws are different everywhere but I suspect this one would be the same or similar everywhere. In Canada, even if the two parties agree to something, if it breaks Employment Standards rules, it’s illegal. You CAN’T agree to do an illegal thing. It’s still illegal and both parties can be held accountable and/or fined.
@@josepherhardt164 true, I sort of meant it as a rhetorical question but there really are quite a few people that ridiculously incompetent at reality, aren't there?
What is a Federal no no is taking the ENTIRE cost back out of his paycheck instead of the .10 cent charge. Firing someone over 1 missed mental health day without warnings or write ups can be called wrongful termination, even in an at will state. Would they have gotten rid of him eventually? Sure, but now he gets to enjoy his schadenfreude.
On filing reports, I would write it but note that it was not my job to write reports at this level. I did it to make sure management was aware of the problem. Management should pass this back down to the proper level and demand they file a follow-up report. We need to have the reports from the proper levels.
Just because agreed to that deduction, it doesn't mean the company can get away with it. If the company does something illegal, whatever people sign is not enforceable.
1st story. Even if fake paperwork was created to show warnings for OP, they still need to show that OP RECEIVED the warnings. How they'd do that usually by showing paperwork where OP acknowledged the warnings with his signature. If OP signed no such documentation, the employer has a hard case to prove.
Something to consider for the first story. If you have bad blood with the company you work with and they are looking for a reason to fire you and punish you for illness and a 10 cent surcharge, Might as well let them fire you and collect severance. If they are mad at you and you fight them on their petty complaints, they will continue their search and try to make your life miserable. Find a place who appreciates your efforts. Sorry, I have worked for a few places where they didn't seem to appreciate me and when I finally got a job it was a night and day experience. One thing to consider though is that a lot of these stories, I think the assumption is that it took place in the United States and so their laws are applicable.
Sure OP could do something about the Write-Ups if the Company faked them... They could just point out that either the Write-Ups aren't signed by OP OR the Signature on them wasn't OP's (AKA is a Forgery)... In Canada and the USA, ALL Write-Ups must be Signed by the person giving it AND the Employee receiving it or it can't be used to punish/fire the Employee...
I was listening to your suggestion about OP having a Crazy Smile like in The Shining. I worked in the Bar business Yrs ago There was a backstabbing girl (long story, 2 long 2 type) Well we had blacklight Which if u work under it U know that bleached hair shines Green Contact Lenses shine Blue Your teeth can be a multiple of colors depending on dental work. Long story short 1 time she screwed me over Instead as complaints were being treated as jealousy between women I decided 2 scare her I'd stand under the blacklight ( I wore 1 Contact Lens) Open my eyes Super Wide Open my mouth while Smiling Then? Wave. If and when she goes crying 2 the boss because of well deserved Fear She'd be asked Well what did OP do? She smiled and waved at me OK But What DID She Do? She smiled and waved at me as she said hello OK NO U Don't Understand It was How she looked at me as she smiled (I was known as the Sweetest, Most Well Rounded "girl") So picture this question by the boss And her answer, going back and forth, round and round THAT was Just the Beginning But Another story 4 another time.
Harassing the wrong customer. The irrate clerk in the retail store did not actually know which customer made the complaint. Even if the targeted customer made the complaint, it may have been mis-translated when the story got back to him. This person needs to be fired for retaliating against the customer.
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Okay, the video store story. I have a problem with this. Because, if a person was autistic they would not be able to make eye contact. I understand that that was australia, but, in this country if you have a disability that's recognized by the Americans with disability act and that person's job can still be done by them with reasonable accommodations, then they can't be discriminated against.
If it's against the law for the company to bill you for the lunch you already paid for, signing a contract saying you agree to let them do that doesn't absolve them. Contracts can't override laws--this is something a lot of people don't get. For (an extreme) example if I were to contract you to kill me, and you had ironclad video and eyewitnesses proving that I wanted you to kill me along with psychologist reports confirming I was not demented, you'd still be guilty of premeditated murder if you killed me. The court COULD knock down the charge or penalty in light of the fact that I clearly wanted to be killed, but they could also decide to punish you to the fullest extent of the law, even if that included the death penalty. "It's illegal to do X to someone" does NOT mean "it's illegal to do X to someone unless it's OK with them."
The .10c story. I had a similar situation, where I was getting paid $2 per hour less than the new guys or even the temps who walked in the door. Turns out there was supposed to be a pay raise for anyone who worked on forklift equipment, which I worked on 100% of my day. But there must’ve been a mixup because I never got it, for 6 months. I informed management and it took HR almost 2 months to fix my paycheck and send me the check for back pay.
I was excited when you said you were on Spotify, I had no idea. 🙂 However, being a 'premium' subscriber to Spotify I expect to listen commercial free. This is not the case with your content there. I love what you do, you have a great voice for stories, but you lost me there.
shit umbrella is the perfect term, especially in the military. A good nco takes the heat for the lower enlisted from the higher ups. Makes corrections on whats needed but takes the heat for bs.
Your advice after the fired guys story isn't correct. Any write ups would bare OP's signature, so any forged write ups would not only be fraud but provable. Agreeing to illegal deductions isn't possible within the law, you can't contract out of it, the act of deducting the money is the illegal part whether you gained agreement or not because; Coercion is a serious charge and agreeing to allow an illegal deduction in an attempt to avoid being fired is a pretty strong position to be in while claiming coercion. Even if it's true that the management did not intend coercion and did not consider it an ultimatum or even be the party bringing up the idea of the deduction there is a case to be made that the employee felt an implied ultimatum and agreed reluctantly due to fearing losing their job. It's one of those situations where it's not enough to be doing the right thing (honestly not trying to coerce an employee) but you have to be seen NOT doing the wrong thing (just don't make the deduction) because even inadvertent coercion is still coercion in the law.
2:03 I don't think I'd call shipping cocoa cola brands as essential, and no Dasani is not an essential drink despite being a bottle of water, their are other and cheaper ways to get clean drinking water
They can't sell Dasani in the UK (legally they can, with a change to the labelling, but very few people will waste their money on it). They tried, spent a fortune on the bottling plant, but it was implied through the labelling that it was mineral water. That's what we expect to be in water bottles sold here, fizzy or still. Still water, even mineral water, is pretty cheap and you can buy it by the boat load. Fizzy is more expensive, of course, but the most expensive ones, like Perrier, have to follow the same labelling rules as the cheapest. Frankly, I can't tell the difference! Guess which type I get lol. Then it was discovered that they were bottling tap water, and worse, from part of the country where the water is so hard you have to bleach cups if you finish a cup of tea and don't wash up immediately. (I know, I used to live close enough to that place to have had the same water source!) Needless to say, there was a total blow up by the public, because they were selling tap water at thousands of times mark up (that amount of water at home would be a fraction of a penny) - basically at the top end of the mineral water cost range (still *and* fizzy!) There are a few places you can get it now, but its labelling has to make it clear that it's tap water, and whilst still ridiculously expensive for what it is, it's at a lower price. I don't know anyone who'll buy it. It would literally have to be the last bottle of any drink from the refrigerator in the shop, and it be one of the hottest days of the year before anyone who is old enough to remember the stink it caused will buy it. Most younger people have picked up the story and won't buy it either. Tbh, I think that the bottles on offer are those left over from the whole event!
I probably would have done the same, but I possibly can do better, since I can see everything in my vision, not like other people who have a tunnel vision of only being able to see what they focused on. Probably the same or more amount of tries with the computer, but much better at anything else.
It doesn't not matter if an Employee consents in writing to having a Company do something Illegal to them. The Government Regulators will still hammer the Company for it... The Company CAN'T EVEN ASK TO DO , Employee Consent is meaningless if the Action is Illegal...that hold true in both Canada AND the USA at State, Provincial and Federal Levels... I know this because many, Many, MANY moons ago, I worked for a crook as a Pump Jockey at a Gas Station and our Employment Contracts had a clause in them that we had to Initial when Hired that any missing money from our Tills would be taken from our Paychecks...in Ontario, this is a MASSIVELY HUGE NO-NO...I found out about it, reported him (I'd had 3 different Paychecks that were for less than $10.00 for 2 weeks work due to Drive-Offs) to the Ontario Ministry of Labour (for Wage Theft)...they sent in an Auditor, discovered I was telling the Truth and Crucified the Owner...not only did he have to pay back all the Illegally withheld money (that check was almost $2,000.00 with the Interest owed, for a 22 year old kid, that was a NICE check) but he was also PERMANENTLY Banned from operating a business...he could still have an Ownership Stake in a business, but he could have NOTHING to do with it's operations...his Business Partner/Co-Owner was NOT happy about due to both the Fines levied against the Station AND the fact he now had to run the Station despite not having any time to do so (he ran 2 other Businesses)... Note to Business Owners: Know the Labour/Heath & Safety/Tax Laws AND FOLLOW THEM...thrust me, you'll end up making a LOT more money in the long run (Fines and Penalties are VERY bad for the Bottom Line) and in the long run, you'll have far fewer Legal Headaches from the Regulators... And be nice to your Employees...if they're happy, they work harder and thus your Business (and you) make more money...
The: Fired for 10 cents story. Even if Op agreed to the deduction, he can claim (rightly so) that he felt that if he didn't agree that he would have been fired over 10 cents, but it would have been listed on his record as Theft (without the specific amount listed) which would have made it impossible for him to get hired at any worthwhile job. Basically have him getting only Minimum Wage jobs for the rest of his life....
That and even if he signed the paperwork it doesn’t matter. It’s still illegal for the company to do.
@@ethanfrench9111 Exactly!!! I was trying convey that, and when they tried to justify it by his signing the paperwork, he could claim that he felt threatened with being charge with Theft and fired and he didn't want Theft on his record..... so he signed (under duress!)
@@timengineman2nd714 And as to Rob's second posit to them falsifying paperwork, all of it would require his signature, not hard to prove.
Actually, having this as "theft" on his record should be libel. Talk to an attorney with a bad attitude.
@@josepherhardt164 Since he didn't pay the fee as he was buying food, it technically is theft.
Not a big theft, but still a theft.....
The illegal deduction doesn't work the same way illegal contracts don't work: it doesn't matter if you consent, it's not something you can legally consent to because the action itself is illegal.
Indeed. This is akin to "compounding a felony."
Sigh...I was having my bestest day, until my 6yr old granddaughter came downstairs to chat. After a few minutes, she looked at me and said "Old peoples fun is boring", I was playing Fallout 4 on my PS 4 Pro. I feel really old now.... Anyway thanks for the great video.
That's real pain. I feel for you. 😭
You should go and see what she's doing, then you can say "young people's fun is boring, too".
@@gordowg1wg145 lol
@@gordowg1wg145 that’s exactly what I would have done. I told my son, the games he play are boring when he told me painting and going to the park are boring
Yup, with the first one, technically he could have charged the company with extortion - he had paid for the item, as proven by the statement, but rather than merely be petty and have him pay the outstanding 10 cents(!), they forced him to hand over that amount again.
Might be worth getting some legal advice on that, if you're as petty as they are - but with actual good cause.
You can’t legally consent to an illegal act. It doesn’t matter that OP agreed to let them do it, they broke the law and would be completely screwed in court
My point exactly!
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Here's the real problem: Management doesn't do their job -- and should be fired for it: You had one job to do and you were too incompetent, entitled or narcissistic to be bothered with it. Along comes a worker bee who recognizes the problem and tells the management -- and it's in the management's court, BUT... worker bee recognizes that management won't do their job and there's nothing that worker bee can to to make management do their job.
If the job isn't done, the company will suffer along with a lot of worker bees being penalized. On the other hand, if worker bee fixes the problem (yet again), he (or she) is enabling management to be mental and incompetent. The difficult thing is to be able to choose which way to go -- make yourself a disposable resource and keep fixing the problems (which will escalate over and over higher and higher over time until the whole thing collapses) or to go straight to entropy, cover yourself and watch the whole environment go to scrap in shambles to the destruction of the innocent.
It's a difficult ethical situation to make, often with a no win situation.
Damn you management! Usually, you're not the ones to suffer! You inept, incompetent, entitled narcissists are garbage people.
Let's be glad that occasionally it works out -- but I'm suspecting more often or not, it doesn't.
Story2 was funny! Be careful what you complain about! But I do agree the manager shouldn't have wasted their time or OP's time, with such a frivolous complaint.
"Look into my eye!" - Sgt Apone, Aliens
We had a guy get called into management because he "wasn't his usual smiling persona". Management chewed him out. Big boss heard about it and investigated. His wife was in surgery and the caller board wouldn't let him off that day. Big boss had a fit, sent him home with full pay and off with pay until wife okay. A;so chewed out caller and Manager. Great man Big boss was. Miss you "Ollie".
I instantly heard Bo Burnham in my head "uncomfortable prolonged eye contact."
The second I start cooking I check my phone to see if Rob has uploaded. Boom instant notification.
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The first story , this could never happen over here . They would have the union's lawyers down on them like ton of bricks !
Right to work states. But truth be told the first shops to close are union shops. Their operational costs are just much higher than non union. Cheaper to shut the operation down, redirect your salary employees to other areas and send the shop's manufacturing to other factories to complete.
But the sad truth? This is a case where the person making the decision is (1) unaware of how this will impact their operations and (2) is high enough on the totem pole to push the issue with HR. But as for HR in this story ... this was early COVID, so at some point HR probably got directed to work from home. So there was nobody in the office to even pick up the phone when the OP was calling. So unless you could locate the email address for HR staff? They probably aren't even aware you are trying to reach them.
@@superdave8248 Right to work has nothing to do with violation of *Federal Law* which the first story was an example of. Also high employee turn over is never a good thing as it is a possible sign the company is about to go bust or move as new workers take a lot of time (ie money) to train before they are efficient.
For story #2, In my experience there are a startling number of customers who will complain about anything and fail to see the stupidity of their complaint. One time at my job I was working the drive through register and taking drive through orders. Meaning that there are times where I’m having to hold two conversations at once or politely ask someone to wait just one second while I finish up an order (Usually it’s the window customer because it should be obvious to them I’m also talking to someone else). One time I had a customer complaint because they claimed I ignored them at the window after I politely told them I needed just one moment to finish up this order. My manager threw that complaint out because it was bullshit and I’m the most polite and professional employee we had. This scenario is why I believe customer satisfaction surveys need to be revised or outright thrown out.
It's just pricks going out of their way to ruin someone else's day, because that's the sole bit of power they have.
EVERY customer survey should begin with the question, "Are you an AH?"
Customer reviews cannot be monitored for quality control. It has been shown that an unsatisfied customer is at least five times more likely to write or fill out a review than a satisfied customer, and customers will perceive a very nice-appearing worker to be competent, when in reality they have not really taken care of the problem.
You can sign all you want if it's against the law it's void!
First story: I've often wondered why the USA has so much litigation going on, and just realized why. It's the only way to get companies to do the right thing (hopefully).
With employers, it is because the workers have been brainwashed to think that unions are corrupt when the reality is the corporations are super corrupt and spend millions on screwing the workers to keep unions from gaining a foothold again in the workplace.
There is no reason a CEO (who often has no direct experience in the industry he heads) should make multimillions while the workers make just above minimi, wage. Example: Jeff Bezos could raise the minimum wage at Amazon to $25/hr for EVERYONE starting there, pay for comprehensive health insurance for full AND part time employees, and have a defined benefit pension plan, with four weeks vacation a year in addition to sick leave, and he would STILL be in the top five richest people in the US or the world.
@@shells500tutubo Exactly. He hasn't figured out that you can't take it with you.
USA has, unfortunately, moved away from a general, 'do it because it's right' mentality to a 'what's the most I can get away with without getting fined/arrested'. It's quite alarming.
The 10 cent one you should have sued them. They fire you over somethin as pathetic as that, but write it up as somethin completely different is illegal.
On the surcharge, I can consent to be murdered but that doesn’t make the murder legal.
But management sanctioned it, so it will be OK!
the music store story: in my experience with retail if a customer gives a review that is short of full marks, even a 4 out of 5, management will treat it as seriously as a failure.
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The eye contact story is hilarious. 😂😂😂
OP has missed the reason he was terminated, Tom was simply flexing against OPs boss, not OP.
7:04 this feels like an Amazon story, because as anyone who does, did, or used to work for Amazon, they would tell you a version of how they treat their employees like crap, I am one of those people, I've written up for "under proformence" I was working my ass off, and was only doing no work, because was stationed at a place that I couldn't leave waiting for said work, and they would write you up for the tiniest infractions, Amazon was a constant revolving door, you could barely find someone you recognize
Yeah. I'm aware of the stories about Amazon, even though I use them to get items hard-to-get where I am. On the occasion when an article gets delivered next door, I _DO NOT_ complain, as long as I eventually get the item. Not giving Big Brother/Boxer any ammunition. >:(
Some good MC from Monday when I wasn't able to listen. Thanks to all OPs and KCC for this episode
I want to throw this out there for and bad level associates and fresh managers: we are often told that it is cheaper to keep employees than hire new ones, which is true.
You have to spend time finding new employees, then you have to spend time training them. I've been told it costs about $2000 for just training an associate at my job, 3-4 years ago.
Value your employees, even if only numbers. We are expensive numbers lol
I believe the Redditor may be incorrect regarding the pay cheque deduction. Laws are different everywhere but I suspect this one would be the same or similar everywhere. In Canada, even if the two parties agree to something, if it breaks Employment Standards rules, it’s illegal. You CAN’T agree to do an illegal thing. It’s still illegal and both parties can be held accountable and/or fined.
Why would you throw away the goose and then wonder why there’s no more golden eggs
US managerial mindset. Akin to voting Republican.
@@josepherhardt164 true, I sort of meant it as a rhetorical question but there really are quite a few people that ridiculously incompetent at reality, aren't there?
@@Avrysatos Alas, that is so. :(
What is a Federal no no is taking the ENTIRE cost back out of his paycheck instead of the .10 cent charge. Firing someone over 1 missed mental health day without warnings or write ups can be called wrongful termination, even in an at will state. Would they have gotten rid of him eventually? Sure, but now he gets to enjoy his schadenfreude.
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Hope everyone has a wonderful week
I honestly could see OP with one of those spooky grins in horror movies while looking at the customer the whole time
On filing reports, I would write it but note that it was not my job to write reports at this level. I did it to make sure management was aware of the problem. Management should pass this back down to the proper level and demand they file a follow-up report. We need to have the reports from the proper levels.
10:35 You cannot consent to your employer breaking the law. No contract that breaks the law is valid.
At 10:30 a "sign this or get fired" signing is not 'consent' that's blackmail him getting fired anyway is grounds for sueing.
Just because agreed to that deduction, it doesn't mean the company can get away with it. If the company does something illegal, whatever people sign is not enforceable.
1st story. Even if fake paperwork was created to show warnings for OP, they still need to show that OP RECEIVED the warnings. How they'd do that usually by showing paperwork where OP acknowledged the warnings with his signature. If OP signed no such documentation, the employer has a hard case to prove.
Damn if you misplaced $1.10 they would of pressed charges
Worked at a place where a guy was fired because he abbreviated the word assigned ass, leaving off the period.
Something to consider for the first story. If you have bad blood with the company you work with and they are looking for a reason to fire you and punish you for illness and a 10 cent surcharge, Might as well let them fire you and collect severance. If they are mad at you and you fight them on their petty complaints, they will continue their search and try to make your life miserable. Find a place who appreciates your efforts. Sorry, I have worked for a few places where they didn't seem to appreciate me and when I finally got a job it was a night and day experience.
One thing to consider though is that a lot of these stories, I think the assumption is that it took place in the United States and so their laws are applicable.
There’s no way it’s legal to demand the use of PTO for weather shutdowns.
That first story isn't theft. Their system let them users choose not to pay the surcharge but still let the payment through.
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Sure OP could do something about the Write-Ups if the Company faked them...
They could just point out that either the Write-Ups aren't signed by OP OR the Signature on them wasn't OP's (AKA is a Forgery)...
In Canada and the USA, ALL Write-Ups must be Signed by the person giving it AND the Employee receiving it or it can't be used to punish/fire the Employee...
This.
Also, he had a manager who was willing to be a witness "it's either you or me"... pretty much says it all.
Illegal is illegal, your consent to the employer doing something illegal doesn't make it legal nor unprocutable.
I was listening to your suggestion about OP having a Crazy Smile like in The Shining.
I worked in the Bar business Yrs ago
There was a backstabbing girl (long story, 2 long 2 type)
Well we had blacklight
Which if u work under it
U know that bleached hair shines Green
Contact Lenses shine Blue
Your teeth can be a multiple of colors depending on dental work.
Long story short
1 time she screwed me over
Instead as complaints were being treated as jealousy between women
I decided 2 scare her
I'd stand under the blacklight
( I wore 1 Contact Lens)
Open my eyes Super Wide
Open my mouth while Smiling
Then?
Wave.
If and when she goes crying 2 the boss because of well deserved Fear
She'd be asked
Well what did OP do?
She smiled and waved at me
OK
But What DID She Do?
She smiled and waved at me as she said hello
OK
NO U Don't Understand
It was How she looked at me as she smiled
(I was known as the Sweetest, Most Well Rounded "girl")
So picture this question by the boss
And her answer, going back and forth, round and round
THAT was Just the Beginning
But
Another story 4 another time.
You're evil. I like that. :)
Ayyy early for once! Love your vids and humor. Definitely my top favorite reddit reader ever!
Nice one bud
Good morning
Harassing the wrong customer. The irrate clerk in the retail store did not actually know which customer made the complaint. Even if the targeted customer made the complaint, it may have been mis-translated when the story got back to him. This person needs to be fired for retaliating against the customer.
Bro, you weren't even there, and you're just immediately sure it was the wrong guy. How the fuck did you gaslight yourself?
Hello Rob!!!
Pay is $15 an hour ? That is half the minimum wage in Australia. It is currently thought as too low so will go up soon.
Keep in mind this video is over 2 years old :)
best Monday ever, who knew it would come on a Friday...
I guess, a store/company losing $0.10 is only a fireable offense, when you happen to live in 1920, or in a poor country like China.
So the first story was clearly in Texas, most likely Coca Cola as they have 3 properties in Texas
Story 2: Sanity
I'm with Garfield...the Best moment of Monday is 23:59:59...the moment Monday ends and Tuesday begins...
Monday really should be Shot...
Multiple times...
And if it survives, it should be Shot again...
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I don't care if it's civilian or governmental, you will always rise to your level of incompetence.
Okay, the video store story. I have a problem with this. Because, if a person was autistic they would not be able to make eye contact. I understand that that was australia, but, in this country if you have a disability that's recognized by the Americans with disability act and that person's job can still be done by them with reasonable accommodations, then they can't be discriminated against.
If it's against the law for the company to bill you for the lunch you already paid for, signing a contract saying you agree to let them do that doesn't absolve them. Contracts can't override laws--this is something a lot of people don't get. For (an extreme) example if I were to contract you to kill me, and you had ironclad video and eyewitnesses proving that I wanted you to kill me along with psychologist reports confirming I was not demented, you'd still be guilty of premeditated murder if you killed me. The court COULD knock down the charge or penalty in light of the fact that I clearly wanted to be killed, but they could also decide to punish you to the fullest extent of the law, even if that included the death penalty. "It's illegal to do X to someone" does NOT mean "it's illegal to do X to someone unless it's OK with them."
The .10c story. I had a similar situation, where I was getting paid $2 per hour less than the new guys or even the temps who walked in the door. Turns out there was supposed to be a pay raise for anyone who worked on forklift equipment, which I worked on 100% of my day. But there must’ve been a mixup because I never got it, for 6 months. I informed management and it took HR almost 2 months to fix my paycheck and send me the check for back pay.
I was excited when you said you were on Spotify, I had no idea. 🙂
However, being a 'premium' subscriber to Spotify I expect to listen commercial free. This is not the case with your content there. I love what you do, you have a great voice for stories, but you lost me there.
Not the sniffles
Eye contact lol thats petty as f#$k
Well…that’s Amazon for you.
shit umbrella is the perfect term, especially in the military. A good nco takes the heat for the lower enlisted from the higher ups. Makes corrections on whats needed but takes the heat for bs.
Omg the staring video loved it !
Story 2: 😂🤣😂🤣😭
monday.. oHh your in the past, you managed to time travel to tuseday when this was posted, and i didnt see this untill wednesday.
Video went live on Monday the 18th 😉
We had those vending services at my old job, the computer would fuck up so much I got loads of items for free
*Doesn't it cost hundreds/thousands of dollars to fire someone?*
"For want of a nail"
Me a year and a half later just happening to watch this on a Monday 😱
This sounds like pepsi. My uncle deals with this bs.
I've been listening to your vids while at work so I have something to listening while doing my usual humdrum
Your advice after the fired guys story isn't correct.
Any write ups would bare OP's signature, so any forged write ups would not only be fraud but provable.
Agreeing to illegal deductions isn't possible within the law, you can't contract out of it, the act of deducting the money is the illegal part whether you gained agreement or not because;
Coercion is a serious charge and agreeing to allow an illegal deduction in an attempt to avoid being fired is a pretty strong position to be in while claiming coercion.
Even if it's true that the management did not intend coercion and did not consider it an ultimatum or even be the party bringing up the idea of the deduction there is a case to be made that the employee felt an implied ultimatum and agreed reluctantly due to fearing losing their job.
It's one of those situations where it's not enough to be doing the right thing (honestly not trying to coerce an employee) but you have to be seen NOT doing the wrong thing (just don't make the deduction) because even inadvertent coercion is still coercion in the law.
I haaaate mondays
Manglement, hit that nail square on the head while looking in everybody's eyes.
I would love one of your logos but I won’t buy anything from spring (they’re thieves)
2:03 I don't think I'd call shipping cocoa cola brands as essential, and no Dasani is not an essential drink despite being a bottle of water, their are other and cheaper ways to get clean drinking water
They can't sell Dasani in the UK (legally they can, with a change to the labelling, but very few people will waste their money on it). They tried, spent a fortune on the bottling plant, but it was implied through the labelling that it was mineral water. That's what we expect to be in water bottles sold here, fizzy or still. Still water, even mineral water, is pretty cheap and you can buy it by the boat load. Fizzy is more expensive, of course, but the most expensive ones, like Perrier, have to follow the same labelling rules as the cheapest. Frankly, I can't tell the difference! Guess which type I get lol.
Then it was discovered that they were bottling tap water, and worse, from part of the country where the water is so hard you have to bleach cups if you finish a cup of tea and don't wash up immediately. (I know, I used to live close enough to that place to have had the same water source!)
Needless to say, there was a total blow up by the public, because they were selling tap water at thousands of times mark up (that amount of water at home would be a fraction of a penny) - basically at the top end of the mineral water cost range (still *and* fizzy!)
There are a few places you can get it now, but its labelling has to make it clear that it's tap water, and whilst still ridiculously expensive for what it is, it's at a lower price.
I don't know anyone who'll buy it. It would literally have to be the last bottle of any drink from the refrigerator in the shop, and it be one of the hottest days of the year before anyone who is old enough to remember the stink it caused will buy it. Most younger people have picked up the story and won't buy it either.
Tbh, I think that the bottles on offer are those left over from the whole event!
Big company like that, how would it be difficult to get "essential services/products" designation? Easy as. Regardless of product line.
@@Kayenne54 oh you mean how like game stop used every excuse in the book to try and justify them being an essential business?
I probably would have done the same, but I possibly can do better, since I can see everything in my vision, not like other people who have a tunnel vision of only being able to see what they focused on.
Probably the same or more amount of tries with the computer, but much better at anything else.
Why is everyone named OP? What does it stand for?
Original Poster. The person who wrote the story.
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast thanks! New watcher
It doesn't not matter if an Employee consents in writing to having a Company do something Illegal to them. The Government Regulators will still hammer the Company for it...
The Company CAN'T EVEN ASK TO DO , Employee Consent is meaningless if the Action is Illegal...that hold true in both Canada AND the USA at State, Provincial and Federal Levels...
I know this because many, Many, MANY moons ago, I worked for a crook as a Pump Jockey at a Gas Station and our Employment Contracts had a clause in them that we had to Initial when Hired that any missing money from our Tills would be taken from our Paychecks...in Ontario, this is a MASSIVELY HUGE NO-NO...I found out about it, reported him (I'd had 3 different Paychecks that were for less than $10.00 for 2 weeks work due to Drive-Offs) to the Ontario Ministry of Labour (for Wage Theft)...they sent in an Auditor, discovered I was telling the Truth and Crucified the Owner...not only did he have to pay back all the Illegally withheld money (that check was almost $2,000.00 with the Interest owed, for a 22 year old kid, that was a NICE check) but he was also PERMANENTLY Banned from operating a business...he could still have an Ownership Stake in a business, but he could have NOTHING to do with it's operations...his Business Partner/Co-Owner was NOT happy about due to both the Fines levied against the Station AND the fact he now had to run the Station despite not having any time to do so (he ran 2 other Businesses)...
Note to Business Owners: Know the Labour/Heath & Safety/Tax Laws AND FOLLOW THEM...thrust me, you'll end up making a LOT more money in the long run (Fines and Penalties are VERY bad for the Bottom Line) and in the long run, you'll have far fewer Legal Headaches from the Regulators...
And be nice to your Employees...if they're happy, they work harder and thus your Business (and you) make more money...
Why won’t you say the words offence and rape and attack and such anymore? Will you be demonetised if you call things how they really are?
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The story is way too long. I quit after a eight minutes.
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