Using a spectrum analyzer to troubleshoot / signal trace a radio with no receive.

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Komentáře • 65

  • @TheGalacticWest
    @TheGalacticWest Před 3 lety +1

    This smart man needs way more light.

  • @TheRadioShop
    @TheRadioShop Před 6 lety +2

    That was a great show of how to troubleshoot using the right equipment. Great video Mike.

  • @Charlee2015
    @Charlee2015 Před 6 lety +2

    I wish I had just a quarter of your knowledge. I would love to have a chance to pick your brain.Another great video !

  • @dalebrooks6816
    @dalebrooks6816 Před 6 lety

    Mike this video could not have come at a better time. I was just talking about the fact that I cannot really use my oscilloscope to troubleshoot the home brew receiver (part of a transceiver) because the levels are just too low to see. But the funny part is I have a tektronix spectrum analyzer sitting next to the device and I never thought of using it for tracing through the circuits. I'm glad you mentioned DC block so I don't do something stupid again. Thanks for the great video Mike and 73's Dale

  • @TRXLab
    @TRXLab Před 6 lety

    Excellent video Mike. If you have a level diagram like Kenwood is doing it you really can determine if all is working right . Thanks for sharing...

  • @robertruth3281
    @robertruth3281 Před 5 lety

    Mike ... what a spectacular video. This one was an unbelievable eye-opener. Thank you.

  • @robcole332
    @robcole332 Před 9 měsíci

    What a great video. I love these. Thanks

  • @CT1JRZ
    @CT1JRZ Před 6 lety

    It´s a very good tool to have! Unfortunately not all workshops can have a spectrum analyzer!
    One day i will get there!
    Nice video Mike. Thanks for sharing.
    We all learn a lot with you.
    73

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE

    I learnt a lot from this video, thanks!

  • @PapasDino
    @PapasDino Před 6 lety

    I'm guilty of leaving the DC block off the input of my SA periodically...the N-to-N block I have is kinda long and is actually kind of a hazard where the box is on my bench...but as you say forewarned is forearmed! (Trust that Rigol 50V DC spec? Ehhh, well at least until I get burned!). Nice video Mike, great for beginning troubleshooters.

  • @Pixelvore1
    @Pixelvore1 Před 3 lety

    Thank you very informative.

  • @cuban9splat
    @cuban9splat Před 6 lety +1

    Good video Mike. Very good tips. It's mostly common sense... although "common sense" is not very common LOL. Thanks for sharing it with us. Regards, Frank K7RMJ

  • @stevenyamada70
    @stevenyamada70 Před 6 lety

    Thank you Mike for another great video.

  • @Rob-du9ui
    @Rob-du9ui Před 6 lety

    Many thanks Mike. I'm off to practice with my Rigol 815tg Analyser.

  • @glennrelethford4673
    @glennrelethford4673 Před 2 lety

    @mikesradiorepair would be great to see the specifics on your probe setup from tip to connection to SA. What do you use and what protections it provides. Is it a purchased DC block or DIY? Is the probe on 1x or 10X. It looks like a great setup and provides protection needed. This kind of knowledge can save someone $$$$. Great video!!!

  • @shadetreetrader1135
    @shadetreetrader1135 Před 6 lety

    Another great video!!! Nice job Mike

  • @user-uv4xe3cq2y
    @user-uv4xe3cq2y Před 6 lety +1

    Great video, easy to follow, thanks. Where can I get one of those long, skinny probes, please?? Ordering information, please!

  • @MrCofresipirate
    @MrCofresipirate Před 5 lety

    Wow great video and info.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom Před 6 lety +2

    You probably should of adjusted the 10.24MHz crystal before adjusting the RX alignment.

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom Před 6 lety

    I think a better way to describe the 1st IF is that the receiver frequency is the VCO frequency plus the 1st IF frequency.

  • @antraciet
    @antraciet Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the vid. It was very interesting.

  • @theoracle6142
    @theoracle6142 Před 6 lety +1

    Mike another excellent video, may I ask what model narda dc block are you using?

  • @user-su5sq5ib3i
    @user-su5sq5ib3i Před 5 lety

    As far as your parts replacement comment, I am still there now, sometimes I feel like a blind dog in a meat house 😂

  • @kd2eat
    @kd2eat Před 6 lety

    Very nice, MIke! This was really timely for me. I'm just about to trace a signal on a Kenwood TS-590s that is deaf on AM, and planned to use my Spectrum Analyzer (I don't have a decent signal tracer online yet). I was wondering what to do about DC blocking, and voila, 2 days later, you post a video! Thanks for hearing the vibe! Can you give more information on the DC block you use? I've googled around and see them all over the map in terms of pricing. I don't want to spend a mint, but I don't want to buy something worthless either.

    • @roymercer6967
      @roymercer6967 Před 6 lety +1

      I use a Mini-Circuits BLK-89-S+ on my SA. You can get them with whatever RF connector you need. I also use a limiter that will clamp if the input gets too high.
      www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dc_blocks.html
      www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/Limiters.html

    • @kd2eat
      @kd2eat Před 6 lety

      Thanks Roy!

  • @metclapton
    @metclapton Před 6 lety

    Great way to look at a receiver nice video ,Ihave a Marconi 2945 and i will be looking at my 148 in this way.
    Be good to see an alignment done with a spec analyzer would there be any advantages ?
    thanks again for great videos

  • @kennynvake4hve584
    @kennynvake4hve584 Před rokem

    I guess you could use the spectrum ann, in the SDRplay radio right????

  • @user-su5sq5ib3i
    @user-su5sq5ib3i Před 3 lety

    Mike are those filters a parallel tank circuit with no resistance?

  • @raybarron316
    @raybarron316 Před 6 lety

    Mike, Great video. Question, any suggestion for a DC block to use on the Red Pitaya?

  • @user-su5sq5ib3i
    @user-su5sq5ib3i Před 5 lety

    Very good video but how can I trace a very small signal without a spectrum analyzer? Will a homebrew audio/rf signal tracer work?

  • @douglasbollinger3626
    @douglasbollinger3626 Před 3 měsíci

    Mike, is there any way the 455 filters can stop transmit in a radio, too? Or, is it just receive only? I have a Uniden PRO-710e I'm working on that has no receive and no transmit. Trying to get any ideas I can! Thank you!

  • @TEN-TIMES-HARDER
    @TEN-TIMES-HARDER Před 8 měsíci

    Where do you get uniden service manual? i called them and they absolutely refused to share and said they do not give that info to any distributors and all repairs are done by them in texas...

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 8 měsíci

      Either have to search the internet and pray you can find one there or if it's not available you have to reverse engineer the radio and make your own service manual. I have had to make my own service manuals for numerous radios over the years.

  • @williamcolvin3609
    @williamcolvin3609 Před 6 lety

    What bandwidth do you usually try to use for filtering - I see they have a large selection of bandwidths to choose from?

  • @michaelbongiorno9142
    @michaelbongiorno9142 Před 6 lety

    I was wondering where I could buy the long probe tip

  • @florincristian7904
    @florincristian7904 Před 3 lety

    What DC Block are you using?

  • @TheCondoInRedondo
    @TheCondoInRedondo Před 2 lety

    Mike, How is it the 50 ohm input impedance of your spectrum analyzer is not loading the radio's IF section to the point it changes how that section works? An ordinary scope has 1M-ohm input. Won't load the circuit.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 2 lety +1

      The scope probe is set to 10X position. The 10X position adds a 9Megaohm resistor in series. That much resistance makes for nominal loading of circuits.

    • @TheCondoInRedondo
      @TheCondoInRedondo Před 2 lety

      @@mikesradiorepair Thank you for the prompt reply. Wow! That makes the sensitivity of the Spectrum Analyzer even more impressive. It's seeing a voltage roughly 1/180,000th what's on the trace the probe is touching.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheCondoInRedondo
      Remember, a spectrum analyzer can measure signals lower than -120dBm. -120dBm is 225nanoVolts or .000000225Volts. In the grand scheme of things the loss from adding 9 Meg of resistance inline with the spectrum analyzer is small in comparison to how low it can measure. Remember, I was feeding in (as far as radio signal strength goes) a huge signal at -35dBm.

  • @andrewverran3498
    @andrewverran3498 Před 5 lety

    Hi Mike, could you use a hf home made sniffee to get these values at the IF stages?
    Cheers
    Andrew

  • @zeljkoadzic1692
    @zeljkoadzic1692 Před 4 lety

    Hi Sir can you tell me all components on this canal line , probe to SA (dc block name type) ?

  • @gregoryellis2600
    @gregoryellis2600 Před 6 lety

    would a Keysight/Agilent E4406A Vector/Spectrum Signal Analyzer with Rear Output and 202 be a good entry lvl signal analyzer for cb radio repair? I do board lvl repair of cell phones and want to get into working on cb’s. I’m trying to put together the the test equipment needed, but don’t want to sink a ton into it at first if it doesn’t prove profitable in my area.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety

      I really have no idea, I don't own one. You would need to research it and see if it meets your needs. Most of this type of equipment was designed for base band / cell phone service but has workarounds for using in other applications.

  • @clems6989
    @clems6989 Před 4 lety

    This is one of the more more difficult problems to troubleshoot "no receive". Possibilites are many..Injecting and tracing a signal is really the only way..

  • @memoriespast1499
    @memoriespast1499 Před 4 lety

    you should half split bracket...

  • @harveybauss4835
    @harveybauss4835 Před 6 lety

    What brand of DC block do you use. does it have any attenuation? I find DC blockers but they have 20db attenuation.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety +1

      +Harvey Bauss
      It is a Narda brand and does NOT have any attenuation other than the normal loss associated with any device.

  • @dejo1976
    @dejo1976 Před 6 lety

    It hard to find some one were i live to work on cb

  • @poetlorryit
    @poetlorryit Před 6 lety

    Mike you need to write an ebook like the Lou Franklin ones which are out of print so prices have gone through the roof, Amazon want 1000 bux for a copy FFS!

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety

      Umm, I'm pretty sure he started printing them again. They are now spiral bound. Check his website.

    • @poetlorryit
      @poetlorryit Před 6 lety

      Called him from the UK this morning and he says he has health probs on his answering machine, when you try purchase the book it returns an error on his site which hasnt been updated since 2014. anyways its not an Ebook which you could deliver much more cheaply and quickly, I ordered mine from the USA costing $120. you need to do something similar first before your electronics course imho thanks for the reply im a big fan keep up the good work Mike.

    • @poetlorryit
      @poetlorryit Před 6 lety

      if they are readily available then why do Amazon Uk want 1000? answer they know its now hard to get

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety

      www.cbcintl.com/urbook.htm
      In stock and currently for sale on Lou's website.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety +1

      Never going to happen. I don't have a year or two to take off to write a book.

  • @marko99butter
    @marko99butter Před 6 lety

    where did you get the long nose attachment for the scope probe....

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 6 lety

      The probe tip only fits the probes it came with made by Probe Master. Probe Master makes high quality after market oscilloscope probes and other meter probe kits. All high quality stuff.

    • @marko99butter
      @marko99butter Před 6 lety

      Thanks. I’ve got some dvm probes by them.

  • @user-uv4xe3cq2y
    @user-uv4xe3cq2y Před 3 lety

    Suggestion: use 2 assistant cameramen using tripods as necessary. One to cover the scope presentation, the other to follow your probe. You wear the microphone to let us know what you are doing. By using the 2 cameramen, you can focus on your work and narration. Just saying.

    • @mikesradiorepair
      @mikesradiorepair  Před 3 lety

      Kind of hard to have assistants do camera work when I'm the the only one here. :-)

    • @EricTechstuffs
      @EricTechstuffs Před 3 lety

      @@mikesradiorepair I just knew you were still out there somewhere !